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Thanks for showing what the options do, great video.

Reminds me of the feeling I get from Resident Evil Games. Ammo should be important. Bugs will make this difficult tho

I don’t think Bases will be destroyed. However all the resources in the base will be lootable. Maybe some structure repairs needed and sentry towers damaged. But the biggest problem will be that a superior fo will know your base location and that they can beat you again and again. Essentially farming you for resources that you collect

They better make ammo persist between major patches now. Make it part of LTP.

What do you use to show which buttons are being pressed on screen ? And yeah, so many people have said decoupled is the way to go, and I indeed also need to just rip the band aid off, not to mention how cool and smooth landing looks in decoupled xD

so know when someone shoot you, you know someone thought you were worth it

but folks there’s still no game really wht are we doing here?

Thanks for the breakdown on the new weapon/ammo cost.

Yeah no this is shit Unless you’re apart of a big org then only viable way to make money is salvage Bounty are not worth it if your ship gets hit once the repair bill is 10 times the reward also the ships you fight are not proportional example fighting a warden for mrt And now weapons and ammo more expensive why so when a new player with only 10k buys a pistol with half a mag and looses it to a glitch they suffer I don’t get it

HOPE THEY START SELLING CROSSBOWS.

That's kind of the point...😂 orgs will control specific star systems. That's the entire endgame for building space stations and having wars. If you're not doing that part of the game, you're most likely playing solo or doing something else. And at that point, just avoid the p v p star systems and just play pve.

Would be nice if mission prices reflected expected ammo usage price compensation. Military action is not meant to be profitable, but destructive. If the government wants us (basically mercs) to do their work they should give ammo vouchers or something lol

I can't believe they did this to my WowBlast Desperado Pistol!

Cool! Let me just play 4.0! Oh, I can't, because its not out or real!

The station war stuff is for null sec places only , and the sheilds only protect ground stations the space stations are gonna be kinda you on your own

I mean.....good. Real life ammo isn't that much, but you also don't get $1mil a day for a menial job like delivery driver. The inflation overall is kind of silly in the game and this will just bring ammo to match the inflation prices. Let's hope they fix food/water to where we don't need to have 35 meals a day and 200 bottles of water...just to survive...before they inflate those prices too.

Damn, that’s some serious inflation😂 Great info as usual thank you!

All the more reason to do Bunkers :)

Hi, could you explain how is it now, 3.24.3, please ? :)

Cig trying their best to kill their player base

5:38 The p8-sc does more alpha damage than the p4-ar? Why would anyone use the p4 if this is true?

Weapons ammo capacities on your spreadsheet seem wrong, A03 holds 150 rounds? P4-AR only holds 20? Edit: for some reason the charts you show later have accurate capacities

Do these prices also extend to selling as well? Because suddenly, looting NPCs just became a very lucrative farm

You open your video with "I personally think this is great", but you don't elaborate... Why the fuck should you spend so much money on small arms ammo in a combat oriented, open PVP game? Do you really think that this will solve a fundamental griefing issues? Have increased ship prices decreased griefing? How exactly will it benefit the average player? All prices are being increased across the board - ship prices, fuel prices, ship ammo prices, missile / torpedo prices, small arms prices - to force you to buy shit from the pledge store. You must be autistic if you think otherwise.

At first glance, this feels kind of dumb. Why not lower mission payouts and commodity prices instead (ie make UEC more valuable)?

Early game is currently really rough and only getting rougher

Why doesn't ammo stay persistent?

I'm going to be the voice of clarity on this because to be honest the price increases are overblow and need to happen. I'll take Tarkov for Example. ETF: Build M4 Carbine (standard Meta) in Gunsmithing decked out 320,257 rubles. Each Gen 3, 30 round mag is 30 USD if you buy all 12 mags from the trader that's roughly 353 USD or 55,421 rubles. So 375,678 total and that's just the guns and mags. Then for ammo, for this example I'll just use 856A1 ammo that has up to a Class IV pen. For 1200 rounds in rubles it'd cost 1.3 million. Meaning 30 rounds would run 33k per mag. So given all of this at mid level you're looking to run a gun for 1.7 million rubles. That's just the gun alone. Depending on what kind of helmet, rig, vest, medical and backpack. Your mid range kit could run between 50-120k. On top of all with a chance to lose it all via server BS, hackers, and losing a PvP fight. Mind you the game starts you off with maybe 50k for standard and 250k if you're a higher tier. However and this is the biggest HOWEVER i'll put. This all sits on the implementation of the player economy. If players themselves are able to buy, sell and trade gear then all the changes mean nothing because the scales of economy would be in play. The effect of supply and demand would be swift on either increasing prices or decreasing them. The problem is they are pushing prices up without a player economy, using NPC economy to stop-gap these issues while increasing prices. The prevailing issue is that they have not shown any signs of increasing contract payouts to keep pace with the price increase. To make these increases work payouts need to jump 300% across the board, that also includes mining, salvaging and other materials need to be adjusted along with it. The costs of running an op should not exceed 80% of the total contract, meaning players should earn at minimum 20% from each contract they pick up and run. The payouts increase as reputation increases. Again the issue is those contracts are not keeping up with the price increases. What I see here is CIG is running into issues that ETF ran into a few years back. 20-40% of players having hundreds of millions of rubles, few hundred thousands of Euros and dollars...with nothing to spend them on. They did a lot of things to 'fix' the issue from money sinks in the hide out to limiting what level the Flea market, to putting found in raid, excluding certain items to sell and none of that has fixed their PvP economy issues. PVE at some point the player will hit max currency, max everything and just get bored. It happens in every game, some people are just better at making money then others. Why try to force equality by setting price controls and raising the prices on goods when there's zero need to do so right now. I would have done the price increases after implementing the dynamic player market with a wipe. Set everyone back to zero, and start adjusting prices depending on how players work the market via supply and demand.

I wonder if, like the Quantum and Hydrogen prices, this is an over adjustment and will be refined as we get closer to 4.0 launch?

The aUEC per point of dmg is a really interesting metric to consider

Great to see you back. This is a perfect change for me. I usually loot ammo from defeated NPCs anyway. Now I'll be able to make money off of it.

Why can't CIG increment its balancing changes? Increase by 100% and then check how it influences the game. Increase by another 200% and check again...

First they need to not steal your ammo with every f-ing update before they put up the price

My biggest issue, don't you lose all consumables, which includes ammo, with every patch including .x patches. No matter wipe status?

Cig really diesnt know what they are doing

well done CIG only ones you are punishing AGAIN is the new player experience what a fucking joke, you cannot balance game with ammo prices. if somebody wants someone to die and they have the money for it other does not, then wola broken system

y'all buy ammo instead of hoarding p4-ar's and f55's and just get your ammo from 9tails goons? the only thing I regularly buy is coda cylinders, because I CAN'T SING BIG IRON IF I DON'T HAVE A BIG IRON

I tend to like the Arclight pistol for general accuracy and economy of space for the clips… 5 clips are enough to clear a bunker and it’s quick on the fly for heavier areas like Distribution Centers and siege of Orison. It puts the hurt on NPCs but is weak for PvP lol

You cant balance damage with cost? Never heard of tarkov?

I can understand the price increase, but the problem is that, unless they raise the amount of credit we receive from low rep mission, it's going to be a pain to play since you spend more time calculating how to minimize cost instead of focusing on enjoying the game.

Really don’t want this game to turn into eve.

I can't wait to lose all my gear due to clipping through the planet. I can't wait to lose all my gear cause my teammate told me 3 times, " Yes, i have the mission," when he didn't and turrets got us. I can't wait to lose all my gear cause someone QT'd into me while i was sitting on an OM point. I can't wait to lose all my gear cause i QT'd into an asteroid I can't wait to lose all my gear cause the server is desynced, and the npcs turned into terminators while i was frozen. I can't wait to lose all my gear while minding my own business and a ramdom A2 flys by.

Always steal my ammo from npcs thou

I'll be very interested in what these mags sell for in game. Might be something to start actually looting from mobs and stockpile them and sell when you get a stack of 100 or something.

Depressing video.

Time to get a knife and spam m3

Sticking to my favs. P4-AR, Coda 50, P8-AR, FS-9, S-38. Everyone loves cheap ammo, but the economy needs to get setup eventually.

These ammo costs are honestly fine. They were laughable before, and still are. Armour has always been the most expensive part, and honestly I'm glad a mag of 10mm LH86 is no longer cheaper than a pack of instant noodles

I like the fact that we need to mind our ammo cost when doing stuff. Money has become meaningless once you run a few mission Nothing is gonna stop me running around with the karna after all

Damn, inflation hitting video games inside the games now