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Wargames On Toast
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Welcome to Wargames On Toast! This is a channel dedicated to all things Warcry. Me and my son are looking to produce all kinds of content ranging from Battle Reports, to tactical breakdowns, to news. If you like plastic/resin/metal models stomping around awesome looking tables, then we might have something right up your alley.
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Top WARCRY WARBANDS You Can STILL Get From GAMES WORKSHOP!
Hey Legends, thanks for clicking onto the video, it means a lot. In this video I am going over the warbands GW still has up for sale.
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I've had a blast making this kind of content, and thanks to everyone who has subscribed so far. If you want to see more content like this, then please hit like, drop a comment, and subscribe. There's plenty more Warcry to talk about, and it would be awesome to talk to you all about it.
If you want to follow me on socials, then feel free (I talk about all kinds of stuff!)
Twitter (X): GamesWithToasty
Instagram: gameswithto...
I also have a website where I talk about video & board games:
gameswithtoasty.com
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Camera - Elgato FaceCam
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Microphone - Shure MV7
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Cool List! Really need to get back into Warcry!
It’s a great game, and it’s deffo calling your name!
I'm hoping that the Horns of Hashut will be coming back when the inevitable Chaos Dwarf army is released for AoS. But withdrawing kits after less than 3 years is pretty awful even if I suspect they're coming back.
I agree, it’s not a great look at all.
Great comparison list
Thank you!
Mah man forgets all about soulsworns every time ! Are you becoming a reclusian?
It’s becoming a tradition at this point. Not sure I can ever include them now XD
@@wargamesontoastpeople would be sad if you forget to forget soulsworn
That will be the day I quit UA-cam
@@wargamesontoast it is a sacrifice I am willing to make
What about the Darkoath Savagers? They are part of the Darkoath Spearhead so still available on the GW website
They are, and I meant to mention them specifically, but I forgot XD In short, being locked behind an expensive box set was enough to exclude them. However, if you want them ranked, they’d totally be a Bloomer tier!
Another non-bread based toast list :(
April is right around the corner…
I've been determined to find a winning GM list for awhile. There has to be something to do with such a points efficient beatstick with a 7 inch threat.
It’s certainly a struggle for them. Having access to Hrothgorn and a bunch of cheap chaff seems like one of the better ways to do it, but that’s also been tested a fair amount to limited success. If you find the sauce, let me know!
@@wargamesontoast Current list im running this weekend: Clawback Great club +1a Brewgit Mannok Da Kunnin +1a Torka Shank +4w Grikkit I'll let ya know how it goes.
I got my girlfriend a Vexmor for her birthday and I am scared. I don’t know why I do this to myself.
Stay exactly 8.1” away from him, and you’ll be fine, haha
I played Jeff in casual! He’s a hoot, a delight, and a gentleman
All of these things are true
Thanks for the great game Toast! Lovely to meet you mate. I said this during the game, but I felt like I learned a lot playing against your list. Having scary pieces without flexibility and utility isnt the best way to write a list!
Was awesome meeting you bud! Seraphon are a brutal faction to clash against, but you’re right, they are a bit light on support and utility. Thankfully Order is bursting with those kinds of allies!
Thanks for a great game, Toast! It's fun to see a game I played recapped in your video. You are right, I was more afraid than I needed to be in round one, and probably should have played a bit more aggressively--I kind of psyched myself out over Vex and the fact that my two-man deployment group showed up in round one, giving you a numbers advantage that went away when the second-round deployments arrived. As I recall, we ended up at 21-17; I closed a lot of distance on turn 3, so turn 4 really mattered. And yes, you did a masterful job of staying JUST outside of 7" of my Spirit Host--I think I got one attack in with him the whole game. I enjoyed the game a lot, and learned quite about about how to pilot that list for next time. For the record, the blessings were +1 Attack on the Wielder of the Blade (like Vex, he's not worth taking without +1 attack); +1 Crit on the Spirit Host (so with the Nighthaunt battle trait plus Frightful Touch, the Spirit Host comes in with 7 dice at 4 ST, with every hit counting as a 4-point Crit); and +1 Toughness on the Knight on Steed, bringing him to T5 with 28 wounds. It's a fun list, and very mobile. It's heavily influenced by Off Meta Musing's How to Play Nighthaunt videos.
That’s right! The Spirit Host came in and needed to land like 2 damage to secure a kill and whiffed with a one damage hit. The spooky lad didn’t feel like turning up that game for sure! Your use of the mounted Knight Of Shrouds has me considering him as an ally in other lists because he’s rather wonderful for 250 points.
It’s always nice to hear tactical thoughts from a skilled player. Good series!
Thanks! Glad you’re enjoying the series
Interesting video, i recently got into warcry and got catacombs for pretty cheap. Then i watched your video about Shadowstalkers and guess what? I got an additional box and searching for 1 more. I was thinking what to do with second shadowqueen and i guess ill just use her for my necromunda gang. To sum up, im assembling list you showed in shadowstalkers video. Crazy yes! Effective? Idk haha. Thanks
Glad to be of assistance, and welcome to Warcry :D
I guess the exact placement has to be very precise? Move too close to the corner, and your opponent cannot fit all models inside your model, so will have to deploy some outside your model, right? and if you deploy too far from the corner, your opponent can disengage around you and get away.
There is a bit of finagling based on deployment size and the size of the group coming in. Sometimes you’ve got to just accept the possibility that some folks are going to deploy in a way that lets them escape, but you’re still pinning 2-3 guys so it’s fine. With initiative manipulation you can often take out any stragglers who were able to deploy outside of the zone as well. For the most part, you’re expecting to see 2-3 models and with a bit of eyeballing and intention clarifying you can pin them all without any trouble.
@@wargamesontoast Sine Warcry allows premeasuring you could even measure so the bases of the enemy fits between the blocker and the board edge. Maybe even with bases even if thats a bit gamey. :-) This is a fun strategy! And could often be done with cheaper kind of robust cavalry. Can kind of be donewith stright board edge turn 2 deplyments - but more victims can probably escape then.
Keeping turn two deployments in mind is generally a good idea even if you can't pull this off - I'll admit I've lost a few games because I left important pieces too close to an enemy turn two deployment just because i forgot it was going to happen 😅
Happens all the time haha. I think the worst instance of this was in a WD mission they put out that straight up killed models that stayed too close to the edge at the end of the turn. A recipe for disaster XD
@wargamesontoast have definitely lost treasure carriers to rules like that 😅
If the crusher deploys R2, you deployment dump a chaff onto it instead to waste its time and keep it away from important things
Nailed it
you're confusing this with Underworlds, go find another word and super hero, GAMBITS ARE EXCLUSIVE TO UNDERWORLDS, all right, leave our game alone, stop Warcryfying it!! (i'm kidding, but seriously, fuck those warscrolls)
I will take your words and warcry them all I want!
Had a bunch of fun doing similar to this a while ago with Velmorn. It was admitedly before the points changes, but sticking Velmorn and Jedran ready at the end of their turn meant that they managed to box in the new deployment and using the double on Jedran right away on the next round to make it so Velmorn could not be targetted meant having to try and get through toughness 5 and 30 wounds before they could do anything about Velmorn while having both whack on them. Sadly this doesn't work on all maps because of how slow they are so they won't always reach the deployment area.
Bodyguard combo is vicious. I love it
I did this exact thing in a tournament game last night 😂 Great play
It’s a great way to shaft your opponents T2 plans. Just gotta time it right to avoid counterplay :p
I want to win more games of warcry. Is this the video for me?
Nothing can save your dire winrate buddy x
Am I mistaken? When it says 'value of this ability" let's say for triple 6, is that not just 6? I don't think it's 18. That's unreasonable.
I assume you are referring to Singri or Gunnar with this. The ability states that you add the value of the ability to the Attack Characteristic, so you would add 6 to the number of attacks they already have. Since the buff lasts until the end of the activation, they are getting the +6 twice if they use 2 attack actions. So with Singri, if she was to get a maximum value volley off, she is throwing 6+2 dice then 6+2 dice for 16 attacks total. If memory serves, Gunnar would get 6+4 twice for 20 total attacks. Hope that helps!
@wargamesontoast oh I assumed you meant for a single attack, apologies.
@OniSushi I should have been clearer!
I added the pureflood with darts to my fyreslayers and it's been a blast. Use her to push them up fast to an objective and plonk them down. They screen her and when they die she can launch up to 16 range 8 attacks on a quad.
That sounds like a lot of fun. The Pureflood fits into all kinds of lists thanks to that triple. Very versatile
Would love to see images of the models in the video, it would really bring it to life. I’m not at the stage where I know every model by name
I’ll see what I can do :)
This refreshed series of videos is really good man. Addictive! I’m going through them one by one and browsing element games and eBay… 👀
I’m glad you like them! Due to delisting it’s a bit tricky to get a hold of some of them sadly
@@wargamesontoast where there’s a will there’s a way… maybe there aren’t so many opportunities to get a steal tho. Also watching your road to gold and hearing bout your joy with Ephelim, which you can pick up in the Underworlds Daemons and Despoilers box. What are your thoughts on assembling from that? Aytan did a nice video on those boxes
The weak starter box was exactly what my experience was. I’m new to wargaming - more into the hobby. I’d love to play more, but I think the Crypt of Blood box I started with felt a bit like a half-start I love the models in the box, but why give me incomplete war bands comprised of characters from underworlds? It’s a shame cos now it feels like I need to get into list-building just to complete a warband and get playing, which is the the wrong way round. I should be playing like crazy, THEN realizing that I can optimize my warband and going down the rabbit-hole. I feel like the consumer journey for newcomers has got a really long way to go.
It really is the most awkward part of Warcry, which is a pretty bad hurdle to have!
@@wargamesontoast ok… maybe I take it back. I played a couple of rounds with the minis included and it’s a good learning experience. Now I’m working out who to bundle Calthia and prince Duvalle with… and it turns out list building is quite addictive 👀
List building is one of the big draws to Warcry that other games, like Kill Team, mostly lack.
do you have any band with Mindstealer Sphiranx in it for someone who just starts playing warcry? I saw your videos about how cool this piece is but there was no example how band feature it would look like. You know a good starting point for someone who is hyped about model but dont know any better what to buy next to make him work
Which warbands do you have? I’ll see what I can conjure from there :)
@@wargamesontoast literally none :D I have a lot of Underworlds bands(but not Thricefold, not a fan of slaanesh demons) and mixture of "this warcry game sounds cool" and "Spiranx is amazing model" made me consider trying it out. I found some budget(and cool) bands but when i look specifically for Sphiranx (already have it) the only thing I found is painting tutorials and singular band made from (2?)boxes of Jade Golems. He is popular model on web but it looks like no one is using him in the game. I think "Sphiranx guide" might be good idea for a video, with sample teams and some synergies to make the most from him
Is it better to run the battle trait or allies for example the mindstealer?
I personally like to keep the Corvus all in-faction since their trait enables their Shrike Talons.
Absolutely love this series! The explanations of tactics, successes and mistakes is both valuable and entertaining. I am sorry ephilem is benched for now, the pandemonium seems to be just your style, but I guess a Toast's gotta do what it takes to win 🙂
I love Ephilim and the Pandaemonium is deffo on the cards for taking. I am trying the weird and wonderful at the moment and trying to hone in on a winning (and interesting!) formula :) Glad you like the series!
A pyrocaster?!? I never would have thought lf that...
The lad ain’t bad! A proper chaff blender and crit-fisher. Even has an AOE explosion on a Quad. Access to fly is marvellous too!
Is darkoath spearhead the best warcry starter box we have had?
It’s a great box! There are a few great spearheads kicking around at the moment. Iron Jawz are another fantastic box
Thanks for the vid matey. Do you think that Darkoath could be the default warband base for chaos players looking to use allies? Marauder champ plus 4 marauders is 380 points for a solid chaff base and leaves 620 for power units...
Absolutely. The only issue being that the Marauder Champion isn’t all that fast and pretty squishy. So in a kill mission that has bonuses for leader or hero kills, he’s a prime target for assassination! And interesting thought about Darkoath is that they don’t necessarily need all that many killy/big allies because their in-faction Wilderfiend is fantastic. Some fun support from something like Skabbick, Trueblood, or Vexmor wouldn’t go wrong though! They are a very versatile base for a warband for sure
To piggyback off toast, the queen is 55 points more but way more survivable, gives you a stellar movement triple, and still gives you lots to play with. I've tried the below list and it's been great Warqueen Vex+1A Vashtiss Singri Marauders×5
Oh I LOVE this
@@spiegel487 yes that's actually a list I'd considered as I have all the elements awaiting painting. Have you tried out Singri?
@@MD-gy4dr yes and she is stellar. Fast and with great range. Her only real weakness is if someone can net her or get in combat and prevent disengage. All in all top 10 overall units in Warcry IMO and thank the gods she isn't a hero.
Flame on! I kinda think they could up the hurlers 5 points more. But drop the shatters back and reduce the points for the other demolishers!
I could see this being fine too. The regular Demolishers deffo need some help
Love my horns. I think the other potential weakness of your list is average speed. I like to try to fit in Skritch and Krrk. If I have to, Scratch's resurrect can let me drop a Shatterer, though it's competing for those triples that are so critical to the Hashooters.
M4 is absolutely an issue but dice willing, early rushes tend to help scoot your boot enough to make up for it. Vexmor with his double is almost as fast as an elf double moving as well, so you can get some cardio in for sure haha
I wish that the warband gave me more reasons to play things other than Shatterers and Flamehurlers. I understand why those two got nerfed but your example list demonstrates the problem - they're still the only things from the warband that people really care about, and further nerfs to them are just going to result in a terrible warband, not more diverse Horns of Hashut lists. The Ruinator is particularly frustrating, as you say they have decent stats but when the Chaos Warrior with twin weapons has similar stats, a higher toughness and is 5 points cheaper you have to ask "why?" The Ruinator is perhap weighted down by the weight of their abilities, but so few of them actually matter it just makes them look underwhelming.
Buffing their middling stuff might help, but I still think the Hurler is just too much of a good investment. The other lads if reduced enough, could lead to an interesting replacement for Shatterers in a tankier list, but who knows?
I love the smell of napalm in the morning
I built a custom tower, to play the “King of the tower” game in the core rule book. My group plays it often and I played the Horns of Hashut multiple times and won. The battle trait will make them even more insufferable to my opponents.
That sounds hilariously devious hahaha
@ the tower has 6 levels and is made out of some packaging cardboard that looks like stone and have suspended areas built out of chopsticks and popsicles sticks. House rules: falling tests fail on 1 and 2 and impact damage doubles on the level 5 and 6. Wish I could share a picture with you!
I'm itching to try out the Pandemonium, especially with them included in the recent boxed set.
They are loads of fun and well worth the dabble!
How to play any warband in 60 seconds or less: 1. Set up warband 2. Concede With practice it will take about 20 seconds.
Refining the process! Love to see it
You cant have Prowler on thumbnails and not use him. Shame on you and thanks for the video. By the way do you ever ever consider using Preytakers? At all under any circumstances but one box band?
FUNNILY ENOUGH, I have been using Preytakers in some lists this week so they should make an appearance in the next episode! The Prowler is symbolic of my in the prowl for glory… or something XD
@@wargamesontoastthats sad to hear. Prowler looks twice as cool.
This series has been amazing for letting me theorycraft counters to different playstyles and lists
I’m glad to hear that! It’s been a lot of fun to do
The problem I have with these videos lately is that they're making me want to pick up Ephilim's Pandemonium - I love the models, and I really wish the rest of the Tzeentch stuff could do cool tricky stuff instead of ... Whatever it is they currently do 😅
Ephilim is incredibly fun and the Tzeentchiest of Tzeentch stuff for sure. I point to them whenever Bladeborn being axed is discussed because they are a prime example of a completely whacky design space found only in Bladeborn. The gold standard all Bladeborn should strive for
@wargamesontoast could there be an argument for moving this kind of whackyness into base factions, so we don't need to rely on bladeborne for the weird stuff? If all Tzeentch Daemons had access to sudden warp portal (and maybe some playable profiles 😅) would it break the game?
So.... You played a mission which hugely favoured your opponent, against a warband packed with the stuff your warband likes the least.... and you got a draw. Is that what you are saying? 😊
I would imagine it would skyrocket them into the upper tiers immediately if they gained faction-wide Sudden Warp Portal. But it would be fun to experiment with it in theory for sure
Apparently so 😅
You used my name ;) lol
Questor Soulsworn, I just bought a box of them. Unfortunately they were all built
Questor in any form is a win in my book. Love these lads
I love playing these guys. A buddy plays Ossiarchs and its always amazing netting those huge stalker models and just shutting down his plays.
Nets are king
just to understand: the "Crypt Of Blood" starter set includes two "Bladeborne" warbands, right? Crimson Court and the Stormcast are UW warbands to begin with? This is such a weird starter set...
It is incredibly weird, I agree.
Please don't put the red X right on top of the picture as I recognise the warbirds by the pictures since they all have obscure names