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How Strong is Baby Vegeta?
The true biggest villain to appear in the infamous series of Dragon Ball GT. Baby, the last remaining legacy of the once extinct Tuffles is back and wants to avenge his people against the Saiyans and rule the universe. Across the fanbase, GT is widely debate to this very day about the true scope of the characters prowess. Now with the likes of Super and Daima following past it, GT is often overlooked and misunderstood about the lore of Baby. In this video, we deep dive into the full destructive power of Baby. To see if he is truly as monstrous of a villain he makes him out to be.
Shoutout and credit to all UA-camrs whose footage were used for this video.
I do not own Dragon Ball, so please support the official release.
How Strong is Hirudegarn? ua-cam.com/video/fah36z1XzSc/v-deo.html
How Strong is Janemba? ua-cam.com/video/he_HJ1R-aKc/v-deo.html
How Strong is Cooler? ua-cam.com/video/3vrx0jzORbk/v-deo.html
How Strong is Future Gohan? ua-cam.com/video/GHPfFfAen0I/v-deo.html
How Strong is Hatchiyack? ua-cam.com/video/EN8Hqew9B7I/v-deo.html
Background Music List (In chronological order of each chapter) -
Dragon Ball Z - Vegeta’s Theme with Epic Choir (EnigmaTNG)
Dragon Ball GT - Background Theme #1
Dragon Ball Z Ultimate Tenkaichi - Courage
Dragon Ball GT - Soundtrack 40 (Bonkers)
Dragon Ball GT - Soundtrack 69 (Withstanding Power)
Dragon Ball GT - Soundtrack 30 (Secret Revealed)
Dragon Ball Z Ultimate Tenkaichi - Dangerous Mind
Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle - AGL LR Super Baby 2 (Great Ape) (Anniversary)
Dragon Ball GT - Soundtrack 5 (Battle With General Rildo)
Dragon Ball GT - Soundtrack 8 (Evil Baby)
Dragon Ball Z - Buu is Fighting
Dragon Ball Z - SSJ3 Goku Vs. Janemba
Dragon Ball Sparking Zero - Realm of the Gods
Dragon Ball GT - Welcome to The Grand Tour
Dragon Ball GT - Soundtrack 9 (Faceoff on Planet M2)
Dragon Ball GT Final Bout - Hero of Heroes
Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle - TEQ LR SSJ4 Full Power Goku
Dragon Ball FighterZ - Super Baby 2 Theme
Dragon Ball Sparking Zero - Great Ape
Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle - Ape Transformation & Rage Mode
Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle - TEQ SSJ4 Gogeta
Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle - STR SSJ4 Vegeta Active Skill
Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle - LR SSJ4 Goku & Vegeta Intro
Dragon Ball Sparking Zero - Dragon Spirit
Dragon Ball Sparking Zero - Main Theme
Dragon Ball GT - Soundtrack 12 (Recap Title Card)
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Credit:
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@NeoTechnoman: www.youtube.com/@NeoTechnoman
Sources:
@Palk: dbzeta.net/threads/chozenshu-volumes-translated.26374/
@Zamasu_Chan: character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Zamasu_Chan/Grand_Kai_Planet_GBE
@Takao Koyama Official Twitter: x.com/koyamatakao194
Toriyama Interviews: www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/saikyo-jump-january-2018-we-asked-akira-toriyama-sensei-saiyan-special-qa/
Dragon Ball Website Sugoroku space: en.dragon-ball-official.com/news/01_2550.html
Content of the Video -
00:00 - Intro
00:46 - GT Canon Explained
04:07 - Tuffle Baby Scaling
09:52 - Baby Vegeta Scaling
14:45 - Sugoroku Space Explained
20:11 - Great Ape Baby Scaling
25:09 - GT Guidebooks
28:30 - Tenkaichi Series & GT: Transformations
30:05 - Scouter Battle Game
31:08 - Ultimate Tenkaichi & Fusions
32:24 - Baby in Dokkan battle
33:56 - Baby in Xenoverse
35:23 - Baby in DH Heroes Games
38:32 - Baby in Sparking Zero & The Breakers
39:14 - Scaling Conclusion
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КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @Kengion
    @Kengion 17 годин тому

    Weaker than SSJ4 Goku.

  • @GreatSwordLover
    @GreatSwordLover 3 дні тому

    If I had money, I’d give you some.

  • @Pwrtick
    @Pwrtick 3 дні тому

    This is honestly a hidden gem

  • @DrAOblivian
    @DrAOblivian 4 дні тому

    This video is perfect. nuff said.

  • @Killerwhale317
    @Killerwhale317 5 днів тому

    I will never forget when baby called Vegeta “Monkey Boy” 😂

  • @cloudshifter
    @cloudshifter 6 днів тому

    It's also worth noting that the spirit bomb at the end of the game wasn't enough to beat her and much like kid Buu she was pushing it back. Only through Good 21s intervention tipping the evil off balance were they able to actually win, otherwise she would have repelled it and won.

  • @Onyx_The_Ethreal
    @Onyx_The_Ethreal 15 днів тому

    Smash, next question

  • @VestedUTuber
    @VestedUTuber 15 днів тому

    I mean, she's basically Buu but smarter and even more versatile. Majins are just BS in general - even if you have a power advantage against one, they can still just keep coming back to wear you down, you have to wipe every last bit of one out all in one go to win. And 21 combines that with the adaptability of a Bio Android like Cell.

  • @Dont_.reply.-_back_to_me
    @Dont_.reply.-_back_to_me 16 днів тому

    Don't tell me u didn't re-watch dbz and made this video with assumptions. Its ok im here to fact check I just want to point a crucial thing u left out in this vid. If in your vid u said buuhan was universal cause of that one ability but i like to point out that it was stated-(the space surroundings him is warping and the walls might break between dimensions) meaning if buuhan is universal for that then u must've ignored the fact that janemba already broke that wall... the dead were in the living world cause of it.... and u even show when they first see janemba before he even transformed, goku states (the big yellow) janemba has the power to destroy the universe.... janemba > buuhan just like the shows creator's have shown an intended

  • @Dont_.reply.-_back_to_me
    @Dont_.reply.-_back_to_me 17 днів тому

    ua-cam.com/users/shortsMslEpi3zx6A?si=6Umo-UhdDOtBUur6 Oh hey just thought i should share this with u to help u out... it has more material sources to that says both dbz movie janemba and gogeta are above /stronger than vegito and buuhan.

  • @Cheraxdestructor-oz4dy
    @Cheraxdestructor-oz4dy 17 днів тому

    ua-cam.com/video/aQNOYntdYkQ/v-deo.htmlsi=Y844JnGEjTr-_yGF

  • @Din-j9k
    @Din-j9k 19 днів тому

    W, but Janemba gets Hax's (Reality Warping, Soul manipulation, Life manipulation, Death manipulation, Inmortality type 1-2-3, Auto suficience, conceptual existence, Erasure Existence, Dimensional manipulation, Matter manipulation, non-physical interaction, Space manipulation, dura neg, Reg neg, power copy, reactive evolution and adaptavility)Him ceal infernite multy demantion. After janemba born db siris will get doom.

  • @Blam_Time
    @Blam_Time 21 день тому

    Man power scaling would be better if it wasn’t people trying to calculate made up numbers that make no sense

  • @ProGaming12772
    @ProGaming12772 23 дні тому

    I got Gogeta to universal+ in fusion reborn

  • @grandadmiralzaarin4962
    @grandadmiralzaarin4962 28 днів тому

    Honestly the backstories for Turles and the Crusher Corps are some of the more interesting ones from the DBZ films, it's just a pity we never got that fleshed out visually.

  • @grandadmiralzaarin4962
    @grandadmiralzaarin4962 28 днів тому

    I wonder how things would have gone if Raditz had bumped into Turles instead of Goku on his way to Earth. Seeing how powerful a low class could become with the fruit would definitely inspire him to join Turles, especially since Turles was stronger than Vegeta, they might have even convinced Nappa to come on side, though Vegeta would have had to be killed.

  • @weaponisedautism07theSecond
    @weaponisedautism07theSecond 28 днів тому

    I don’t know anything about anime of the sorts i just think Cooler is just a cool character. pun intended

  • @AntonioCardozo-pc7qp
    @AntonioCardozo-pc7qp 29 днів тому

    Well he beats homelander

  • @MourningCoffeeMusic
    @MourningCoffeeMusic Місяць тому

    How does Goku scale to Honey Boo Boo in this movie?

  • @MourningCoffeeMusic
    @MourningCoffeeMusic Місяць тому

    I like how they changed Black Goku’s name to Goku Black right before the arc dropped because they didn’t want to be racist, but we still got Black Frieza anyway.

  • @TyzThePhoenix
    @TyzThePhoenix Місяць тому

    This was an amazing breakdown.

  • @BlueSphere1990
    @BlueSphere1990 Місяць тому

    I think what piccolo was referring to was he receives a size buff. Because obviously the bigger you are the heavier you hit. But he doesn't necessarily receive a power boost. Like the great ape form. But calling it a bluff is crazy. If you don't like using the form that's fine cause of size? Understood

  • @Salva730
    @Salva730 Місяць тому

    Lame movie

  • @28trillion
    @28trillion Місяць тому

    [Baby scale] 1. Baby (infant): multi solar system to complex multiversal (8D) with MFTL to infinite speed (cause still a baby) 2. Teen baby: complex multiversal (8D) with immeasurable speed 3. Adult baby: hyperversal with immeasurable speed 4. Baby vegeta (mutant SSJ): layers to outerversal with irrelevant speed 5. Super baby vegeta: layers to outerversal with irrelevant speed 6. Super baby vegeta II: layers to outerversal with irrelevant speed 7. Baby vegeta (golden great ape): layers to outerversal with irrelevant speed 8. Baby hatchiyack: immeasurable layers to outerversal with irrelevant speed 9. Golden oozaru baby vegeta (demigra amped): infinite boundless with above irrelevant speed ________ [Normal SDBH scale] 1. Golden oozaru baby vegeta (demigra amped): layers to outerversal with irrelevant speed

  • @yeming4868
    @yeming4868 Місяць тому

    baby would nodiff jiren

  • @Brian-ti7xm
    @Brian-ti7xm Місяць тому

    Not one super character in all of dragon ball lore can destroy more than a planet. None of them are capable of time travel so none are 4th dimensional. Only one character is capable of destroying the universe, and its the highest god of destruction the omni king which is a contradictory concept that was cloned with a time machine that hopped into another universe. Every characters maximum feat is at planet destruction, no ones ever destroyed a star, or fought a battle in space planet hopping.

  • @Brian-ti7xm
    @Brian-ti7xm Місяць тому

    I feel like i was forced to dislike xenoverse and ultimate tenkaichi I mean they look like ok games, obviously inferior to tenkaichi but not bad games Same for kakarot but that game actually is kind of bad. Ive had a concept for a open planet dbz game for 10 years and developers lacking passion never even tried to make a phenomenal dbz game. Sparking zero is mostly a great fighter but they could have easily got a team together to make a drastically better game. Seriously. Megaton rainfall, disregarding its multiple planets, had a full scale earth with destruction physics. No mans sky, many planets. The outer wilds, many highly detailed small planets. They could do what i daydream of but refuse to, start wanting to, before dbz loses all of its momentum bc of how horrible daima is.

  • @Brian-ti7xm
    @Brian-ti7xm Місяць тому

    After freiza saga you have to stop acknowledgement of the horrible power scaling and text based feats. I love dbz and gt but theres a lot of problems with power scaling and size scaling with the universe. Dbz was close to perfect when there was only 4 small galaxies and all stars were only a few times larger than their earth which is much smaller than our earth.

    • @Nasinasi8
      @Nasinasi8 19 днів тому

      As the administrative unit that oversees the infinite number of galaxies in space, it divides space into four areas (east, west, south, and north) and is called the North Galaxy (the northern area), the South Galaxy (the southern area), and so on. This is the description in the guidebook. As you can see from the animation, there were several galaxies when Super Shenron first appeared

  • @28trillion
    @28trillion Місяць тому

    [Future gohan scale] 1. Future gohan (base): universal+ with infinite speed 2. Future gohan (SSJ): low complex multiversal (5D) with immeasurable speed 3. WIB gohan (SDBH): boundless with above irrelevant speed 4. WIB (dark dragon ball amped): infinite boundless with above irrelevant speed 5. WIB gohan (SSJ): infinite boundless with above irrelevant speed 6. WIB gohan (SSJ2): infinite boundless with above irrelevant speed _______ [Normal scale for SDBH] 1. WIB gohan (base): hyperversal with above immeasurable speed 2. WIB gohan (dark dragon ball amped): layers to outerversal with irrelevant speed 3. WIB gohan (SSJ --> SSJ2): layers to outerversal with irrelevant speed

  • @PeerlessInterests
    @PeerlessInterests Місяць тому

    Skipping over Vegeta knowing how a Tuffle's ki feels due to the Hatchiyak OVA is crazy. Same ova with Cooler, Turles, Slug and name drops Broly. That's the ONLY Tuffle Vegeta could've met pre-baby

  • @28trillion
    @28trillion Місяць тому

    [Bojack scale] 1. Bojack (movie): complex multiversal (8D) with immeasurable speed 2. Super bojack: complex multiversal (9D) with immeasurable speed 3. Majin bojack (game): high complex multiversal (10D) with immeasurable speed 4. Bojack (evil aura)(SDBH): infinite boundless with above irrelevant speed 5. Super bojack (evil aura): infinite boundless with above irrelevant speed _________ [Normal scale for SDBH] 1. Bojack (evil aura): layers to outerversal with irrelevant speed 2. Super bojack (evil aura): layers to outerversal with irrelevant speed)

  • @28trillion
    @28trillion Місяць тому

    [Janemba scale] 1. Janemba first form (movie): hyperversal with immeasurable+ speed 2. Super janemba: outer to layers outerversal with irrelevant speed 3. Majin janemba: layers to outerversal with irrelevant speed 4. Janemba (dark dragon ball)(SDBH): high outerversal to boundless with irrelevant+ speed 5. Dark dragon ball janemba (amped): high outerversal to boundless with irrelevant speed 6. Dark janemba: infinite - infinite boundless with above irrelevant speed _________ [Normal scale for SDBH] 1. Super janemba (dark dragon ball + amped): layers to outerversal with irrelevant speed 2. Dark janemba: layers to outerversal with irrelevant speed

  • @EMPEROR_DRAGO_786
    @EMPEROR_DRAGO_786 Місяць тому

    She is beats black I think she's in that midball to highball level

  • @28trillion
    @28trillion Місяць тому

    [Turles scale] 1. Turles (movie): ~multi solar system with MFTL+ 2. Turles (mighty fruit): multi galazy level with MFTL+ to ~infinite speed 3. Turles (second fruit): ~universal with infinite speed 4. Turles (dark dragon amped): high outerversal to ~ boundless with irrelevant speed 5. Xeno turles (evil KI enhanced): infinite boundless with above irrelevant speed 6. Xeno turles (more mighty fruit + long hair): infinite to immeasurable boundless with above irrelevant speed ________ Normal scale for SDBH turles: layers to outerversal with irrelevant speed

  • @Zakurai-m1z
    @Zakurai-m1z Місяць тому

    I think you got a few things wrong here _"1.your theory is that dimension that goku blew up wasn't sub space."_ first you need to prove why would that be the case coz i dont think its ever been stated that somehow the realm was different to sub space. Game was called sugoroku space itself and once it broke down there is not reason to assume the place shown isnt subspace. and here are my reasonings. Goku in GT is actually punished to "wander between dimensions" and the only realm that actually has same wording for it is "Sub space" [there exists a "subspace" that does not belong to any of those worlds] and that's exactly what Goku was supposed to do when game broke. game was a part of sub space and it then breaking down confirms that it was the sub space. He only went to vacuum of space once he destroyed it. Destroyed sub space that is. i don't think assumption that somehow that it was not sub space has much proof for it especially when wandering in between dimensions is considered and here is the line [ it is positioned between dimensions detached from any area] why would this be any other realm thats my first issue with your theory. _"2. your theory that somehow baby vegeta affecting the supreme kai wont be outer or doesn't have implications"_ we know that instant transmission doesn't work in time. its stated in meta cooler guide on how instant transmission works. no time itself means no space logically. so we have a realm with no space or time an dit can be 0D as it can reach to higher dimension like afterlife and other dimensions. why would this not be outerversal? this is genuine question btw. i may be wrong but wasn't outerversal means that it doesn't have any axis yet it transcends other realms and instant transmission able to do it will get into definition of meta physical and abstract. coz no space or time. space cant exist without time. _"3. why would baby vegeta only be infinite speed?"_ supreme kai somehow was able to react and perceive while being in instant transmission. why would that not affect its speed scaling? why would this not be immeasurable speed? _"4. you implied if baby being outside time is outer then zamasu would far above that coz he affected timelines"_ that would be the case if dragon ball timelines acted like real timelines but they dont. it acts more like a multiverse rather than actual timeline. so no even if baby vegeta had the outer feat zamasu does not scale to it. timelines arent the same in dragon ball. _"5. DBS had more outer implications "_ it does have more implications but none of them are this good tho. world of void not having space and time doesnt scale goku simply coz grandpriet added gravity and gravity itself is a space time property. also world of void not having time yet jiren moving in time stopping from hit is such a huge deal? thats why it is more debunkable. broly vs gogeta is super dimensional. super dimensional has mant contextual arguments like what if dimensions means other realms coz usually DB calls realms as dimensions. dimensions doesnt imply that it only means geometric dimensions. best argument here can be world of void overall being outer until grandpriest added space time. and gogeta blue then reaching outer coz it surpasses overall previous realms.

    • @Zakurai-m1z
      @Zakurai-m1z Місяць тому

      overall i dont see why high ball only will be outerversal? when baby vegeta actually does reach it already even at a midball. low ball being if we take instant transmission realm and sub space realm as just basic transcendence that dont make sense tbh when it clearly mentions "concepts itself of dimensionality. [In this subspace, concepts such as "time" and "space" do not exist, ] thats all tbh.