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A new arrival, a collection milestone, and a look at 1980s Märklin V200 derivatives.
I recently received a Märklin 3021. This arrival represents a mini milestone for the collection as it now contains one example of every model based on this tooling, and listed in the Märklin catalogues during the 1980s.
In this video, we'll have a look at the new arrival, compare it with related models of the 1980s, and hopefully run them together with matching stock.
If you enjoy this video, please consider subscribing to my channel and hitting the like button. It helps me reach a wider audience and create more content like this. If you'd like go a bit further and contribute to the upkeep of the collection, "Super Thanks" are activated.
Thanks for watching!
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:05 The new arrival
02:40 1980s Märklin 3021 versions and derivatives
07:14 Primex
07:43 Technical variations
08:48 Getting ready for the track
10:15 3021 v13 in action
12:30 1980s 3021 derivatives in action
18:17 Conclusion
Compositions: I added the consists to modelrailroadcollector.wiki, a tool I use for the manaement of my collection. I highly recommend it.
AM 4/4 - Märklin 3184: www.modelrailroadcollector.wiki/en-us/Consists?consistId=633
BR220 - Märklin 3081: www.modelrailroadcollector.wiki/en-us/Consists?consistId=602
BR220 - Märklin 3021.13: www.modelrailroadcollector.wiki/en-us/Consists?consistId=631
V200 - Marklin 3021.12: www.modelrailroadcollector.wiki/en-us/Consists?consistId=632
Sources:
www.Maerklin.de
www.Wikipedia.org
Photo credits:
220 043-4 in Lubeck, 1980 by Marcus Niedt via www.bahnphoto.de/bilder/0504.htm
Eisenbahnstiftung: eisenbahnstiftung.de , search for term in quotes:
“220 012 in Lübeck”, , 1975, by Jochen Lawrenz
“V 200 029 bei Buchholz”, 1967, by Helmut Dahlhaus
Am 4/4, 1988, by H&W Brutzer, via flickr, flic.kr/p/2npWmvY
Primex:
3009 v3 - Ebay listing: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204051504407
3009 special edition: www.mymarklin.com/primex/primex-marklin/
V200 between Copenhagen and Hamburg, 1978, by Ulrich Budde via Gallery V200 Hochburg Lübeck on bundesbahnzeit.de, www.bundesbahnzeit.de/seite.php?id=419
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Відео

Märklin vs Liliput - Let's compare!
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A 1980s head-to-head: 2 DR BR38 available to buy new concurrently between 1977 and 1984 for the Märklin 3-rail system. Liliput 102 05 vs Märklin 3099: Which one is the best? If you enjoy this video, please consider subscribing to my channel and hitting the like button. It helps me reach a wider audience and create more content like this. If you'd like go a bit further and contribute to the upke...
Märklin m-track analogue automated layout in action with a choice of "Nez Cassés"...
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A bit of good old fashioned automated traffic on Märklin M-track... Can you figure out how it works? Enjoy! #Märklin #mgleis #analog #tmrguk #mobaanalog #sncf #Spielbahn #fahrvideo
Just in! Märklin 3133 (SNCB/NMBS HLD 54 - Gros Nez)
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I just received a lovely Märklin 3133, a Belgian HLD 44 (Class 54) and I thought we should have a first look at it together. As usual with the new additions format, we’ll cover a few basics and a bit of history to put the locomotive in context, we’ll then have a closer look at the model and we’ll end the video with a quick run on the layout. If you enjoy this video, please consider subscribing ...
Trying out a few train looks for Märklin 3082 - DB BR41 (with a new smoke unit 🚂...)
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I thought I’d dedicate some time to one of my favourite locomotives today, a Märklin 3082, a BR 41 of the Deutsche Bundesbahn that only rarely comes out. We’ll get it ready for the track, cover a bit of trivia and try and find suitable stock in the collection to run it with. Thanks for watching! Sous titrage auto-traduit disponible, pour voir comment faire: ua-cam.com/video/RkZP4daTr0M/v-deo.ht...
Just in! Märklin 3325 (BB 7200 "Nez Cassé" - SNCF)
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I recently received a BB 7200 of the SNCF, Märklin 3225. This locomotive was advertised as "in good condition" and we'll have a first look at it together. We'll also run related models this week. Here's what you'll find in this video: 00:00 Introduction 00:57 Model overview 03:17 Vital statistics 04:10 Prototype overview 11:00 My 3325 - Unboxing 15:15 Matching Märklin stock 18:31 Run with relat...
The colourful "Mozart" service, from D 39 to EC 64, using 1980s Märklin models.
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Mozart was the name given to a number of services that operated between Austria and France, via Munich, Augsburg, Stuttgart and Strasbourg. In 2023, Märklin released insider club models including a BR 181.2, that operated the train between Suttgart and Strasbourg from the 1970s onwards. Marklin didn’t do a 181 in the 1980s, the period of the Märklin production I collect, but on its own, the Moz...
Märklin vs Fleischmann - Let's compare!
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A 1980s head-to-head: 2 DB BR50 available to buy new concurrently between 1987 and 1995 Fleischmann 1179 vs Märklin 3315: Which one is the best? If you enjoy this video, please consider subscribing to my channel and hitting the like button. It helps me reach a wider audience and create more content like this. If you'd like go a bit further and contribute to the upkeep of the collection, "Super ...
Drawers queens...
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Relatively simple video today… I have a few models in the collection I call my drawer queens, they are items that have never hit the track since I bought them. I spent an afternoon giving a few of them a run, so we'll see a bit of everything.... If you enjoy this video, please consider subscribing to my channel and hitting the like button. It helps me reach a wider audience and create more cont...
Clean your wheels! At a minimum, your track will thank you...
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If you are familiar with the channel, you often see my models in action, but you never see what happens once the fun is over. In my case, this involves a lot of packing, but also a few maintenance tasks I routinely perform at that stage, including taking care of probably the most neglected part of a model railway: the wheels of wagons and coaches. So, I shall share this bit of my routine today,...
Checkpoint... Thank you for 500K views!
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Lots of blue ocean/beige on the layout in this video, as a thank you for 500k lifetime views. I'll also give a preview of a few things to feature on the channel this year. If you enjoy this video, please consider subscribing to my channel and hitting the like button. It helps me reach a wider audience and create more content like this. If you'd like to contribute to the upkeep of the collection...
Just in! Märklin 3117 (SNCF Class 232TC)
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I just received a class 232 TC of the SNCF, Märklin 3117. This locomotive was advertised as "as good as new" and we'll have a first look at it togehter. Here's what you'll find in this video: Some information about the Märklin 3117. High-level information about the prototype A full unboxing of the model A function test Matching Märklin stock information A run around the layout If you enjoy this...
Märklin Reversing Units (aka Relays) - Tips and Tricks (part 2) - Common Issues - Little Helpers
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This mini series is all about Märklin reversing units (aka reversing relay, "Umschaltrelais", "Umschalter", reverser, etc). Where they come from, where they go wrong and how to fix them. Reversing units are rock solid and best left alone. In 99.9% of cases they just work. This episode covers the remaining 0.1% of cases with adjustments, issues and fixes I regularly come across. This approach is...
From the vault... Märklin Austrian-themed export models from the 1980s
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This is a re-upload with minor changes, let's see if it does better now ;) I received Märklin set 2843, an Austrian passenger train set a while back and I thought we should have a quick look at it. After years spent ignoring its non-German customers, Märklin ramped up the releases of international items in the 1980s, leading to a real explosion of choice in their ÖBB product line-up, so we'll t...
I couldn't resist... Märklin 3005 (DA800)
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Just a quick video... We follow Märklin 3005 (DB BR23) as it does its first few rounds on the layout. I simple couldn't resist buying it when I saw it on eBay... It is completely original, down to its plastic tires... I hope you enjoy the video. If you do, please help the channel in reaching a wider audience by subscribing or hitting the like button. Super thanks are also available if you'd lik...
Märklin Reversing Units (aka Relays) - Tips and Tricks (part 1) - History & Types - Little Helpers
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Märklin Reversing Units (aka Relays) - Tips and Tricks (part 1) - History & Types - Little Helpers
Märklin 1980s American models, a new arrival and a collection milestone...
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Märklin 1980s American models, a new arrival and a collection milestone...
A little gamble (a mistake maybe?), or when new isn't new...
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A little gamble (a mistake maybe?), or when new isn't new...
Were models really that bad 40 years ago?
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Were models really that bad 40 years ago?
Just in! Märklin 3350 (SBB Ae 6/6), joined by a few old friends
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Just in! Märklin 3350 (SBB Ae 6/6), joined by a few old friends
Integration hell! Finding matching stock for Märklin 3083 (ETAT 231)...
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Integration hell! Finding matching stock for Märklin 3083 (ETAT 231)...
He's been!
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He's been!
Something from the back of the shelf and something new ...
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Something from the back of the shelf and something new ...
I had forgotten about buying this....
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I had forgotten about buying this....
Just in! Märklin 2864 (V160 "Lollo"), it's gorgeous!
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Just in! Märklin 2864 (V160 "Lollo"), it's gorgeous!
Little Helpers - Servicing basics (Märklin), with the help of EP5 (aka E52/BR152)
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Little Helpers - Servicing basics (Märklin), with the help of EP5 (aka E52/BR152)
3 years on YouTube...
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3 years on UA-cam...
Just in! A cheap Märklin 3021 (DB V200), how bad is it?
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Just in! A cheap Märklin 3021 (DB V200), how bad is it?
Deutsche Reichsbahn Classics - Märklin trains in motion
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Deutsche Reichsbahn Classics - Märklin trains in motion
Little Helpers - Making coal loads (well, trying to...)
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Little Helpers - Making coal loads (well, trying to...)

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @mountainmanpedro
    @mountainmanpedro 7 хвилин тому

    Therapeutic sounds of these locomotives working the rails.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 2 хвилини тому

      Indeed, I'll put some the the unused footage on the second channel later this week if you fancy more therapy :) Thanks for the Super.

  • @roguico
    @roguico 3 години тому

    ¡Gracias!👍 Como siempre un excelente video que he disfrutado muchísimo, saludos desde Csota Rica.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 2 години тому

      Thaanks very much @Roguico. Much appreciated!

  • @lindaoffenbach
    @lindaoffenbach 3 години тому

    Astounding collection once again, and the V200 is of course a profound Märklin classic. Unfortunately the real ones are no longer with us since decades and were sold pretty much all over the world. Understandable but such a loss since these have just a magnificent presence. However, we can enjoy them in model form and Märklin has done an excellent job, as well as Fleischmann. Thank you for sharing.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 3 години тому

      There are a few in museums too 😉 They were impressibe things indeed. Glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @christophetardivat234
    @christophetardivat234 3 години тому

    Congratulations on completing The Collection! Hopefully there will be an extension. Thanks for pointing out the special primex 3009 i must spend more time studying Kolls! And nice to see the 4045!

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 3 години тому

      We are getting there one model at a time. Thanks for the visit.

  • @simonalexandercritchley439
    @simonalexandercritchley439 3 години тому

    I have a version from the 60s which is not running. The diecast body helps the traction and makes it robust but the scale and details look oversize compared to the later versions. We're these about 1:80 like some of the Fleischmann models from 50s and 60s?

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 3 години тому

      The V200 is 1/87 lengthwise, so my guess would be that the scale is correct. Some details were problably oversized on the first 12 versions. Steam engines designed in the late 40s/early 50s were probably even 1/76 😀. These models were made for a relatively long time all the way until the late 60s early 70s. In general, Märklin models progressively got closer to scale over time, although diesels and electrics were better from day one in that respect. Things started shrinking to (or closer to) scale from the mid 1960s onwards, with the roll-out of smaller motors and reversing units, and better manufacturing tools. On the detail side, Märklin always prioritised sturdiness, so models could be a bit crude. This changed in the 1980s, again in a progressive fashion, one new model at a time.

    • @JPVelders
      @JPVelders Годину тому

      Lovely set of V200's, I still need to repair a couple to make my dad happy ;)

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail Годину тому

      @@JPVelders Thanks and have fun with the repairs.

  • @lellopesce
    @lellopesce 4 години тому

    Thank you. That was an excellent video. I especially liked the real consists you put together.

  • @stephanedelaval6525
    @stephanedelaval6525 5 годин тому

    Superbe. Une belle famille.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 3 години тому

      Merci! Je suis d'accord...

  • @bodenbahningundsovonundmit5404
    @bodenbahningundsovonundmit5404 5 годин тому

    Beside the SBB Version 3184 I have them in my collection of class V200. My favorite loco class 😊 From SBB I have the later article 39801

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 3 години тому

      Thanks for the visit, I liked the BR 86 in your last video.

  • @andersnielsen4390
    @andersnielsen4390 19 годин тому

    Amazing as always! Are you using the older style “rounded” pantographs? My experience is that some of the later generations may “hang” in the oldstyle Märklin catenary. BR, Anders

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 16 годин тому

      Thanks! I use what is fitted to the locos, in my experience, things hang only if the catenary is not aligned with the centre of the track, or if the joints between catenary elements aren't smooth for whatever reason, for example when extension wires are a bit loose and drop a bit.

  • @allyncooke4286
    @allyncooke4286 2 дні тому

    I was wondering if you have a clip on the maintenance of signals? I have issues with trains stopping in dead sections controlled by signals. Setting signal on the train does not move until I give the loco a 24v boost to reverse then it moves. Not Ideal. do you have any tips on cleaning the contacts an adjusting the stop so the internal slider moves into the contact zone under teh signal post.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 2 дні тому

      Not ideal indeed. There is no video about this on this channel. Usually, the issues are mechanical, and since the sympton is that the signal reacts to a 24V pulse, it sounds like something is getting stuck. I would first try and remove the cover on the base of the signal, and see how things behave without. If they are back to normal, then the issue is most likely some friction caused by a bent part. Sometimes, the mast is not at 90°, and the little hook actioning the transmission rod to the arm doesn't travel far enough. It could also be that the transmission rod for the signal arm is bent, and rubs against the opening in the cover or doesn't travel far enough. I would proceed methodically, start at the base and work my way up, adjusting one part at a time. If you have another working signal, you could use it as a reference to identify misshapen parts. I'll bear this topic in mind for future video.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 2 дні тому

      One more thing. It could also be a power issue. If a signal doesn't get a strong enough pulse, it might not move fully. This would happen if you were trying to change several accessories at once, or if you have a lot of accessories connected to the same transformer. The transformer might not have enough power. An indication of the problem would be that the transformer frequently trips.

  • @BlechDampf
    @BlechDampf 2 дні тому

    👍 Super!

  • @allyncooke4286
    @allyncooke4286 4 дні тому

    After watching this clip I decided to buy a 3165 loco and coaches. I had them 25 years ago but when I got married I sold them for money. As you do. well these will be a nice Christmas present this year. On another note I have been running my Lilliput Rheingold 4 car set behind the Belgian Brown Pacific 3111. As I have 3% grades on my layout I was not sure the loco would lift the coaches on this grade given that it is driven on one axle. To my surprise and delight it made it easily. Mind you the wheel sets on the coaches spin easily so the coaches run freely. This is a bit different with tinplate coaches and 3048 Pacific,. It struggles up the grade even after replacing tires and making sure there is no oil or grease on the track. Now here is the issue --- I have replaced the steel rail in the M track with code 100 nickel silver rail. So possibly the older locos rely on the profile and the joints for better traction.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 3 дні тому

      That is quite a task to replace the rails in the M-track. All the ramp are 3% in the video, any marklin loco will manage that with quite a load, here is my 3048 in action wiith tinplae coaches: ua-cam.com/video/Gc4TL5-4Bf4/v-deo.html. Have you checked your traction tires? Enjoy your presents...

  • @mgaldamesa
    @mgaldamesa 6 днів тому

    👏👏👏Great video and superb suggestions. I am a bit of and old fashion man and I simply see as a crime to touch and convert to digital an old analogue locomotive. For that reason, I have decided to have both and run them in separate lines. Thank you very much

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 6 днів тому

      Thanks a lot, have fun with your trains.

  • @forrestrobin2712
    @forrestrobin2712 6 днів тому

    Excellent ! I’m currently working on a Hornby Dublo 3-rail layout. As I write this, a Dublo pacific 46245 "City of London" is running in the background. Originally 2-rail model (the 3-rail version was "City of Liverpool), I have converted it to 3-rail using a Marklin skate, it runs beautifully . I’m looking forward to finding my first Marklin locomotive, though I’ll have to set it up to run on 12V DC. My dream is to find one of those big German 2-10-0 locomotives. What would you recommend ?

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 6 днів тому

      Assuming your question is about models: Pre 1990s MArklin gives you 2 choices, the Class 44 or the class 50, both 2-10-0. They should work on 12 V DC with no modification on dublo 3 rail but with no ability to use remote controlled reversing. Well, that is if I am not mistaken in my assumption that dublo 3 rail is using the same isolation principle between the center rail and the track bed as Märklin. Early versions of the BR 44, for example model number 3027, have a manual lever for the reversing unit, should you want to avoid modifying the loco. The lever is located on one side of the boiler, on the footplate. The following model 3047 no longer has a manual reversing function. The other option is the BR 50, model number 3084, and later iterations (3315, and european versions 3314, 3316, 3319 for example, there were more). Same story for 12V operation, and these were released from the 1970s onwards with remote reversing functionality only. If you were using digital, any current Märklin model is fitted with decoders that can operate using DCC in addition to Märklin MFX and Märklin Motorola. Have a look at the model train directory on www.modelrailroadcollector.wiki, where a search BR50 or BR44 should throw quite a few results. If you go down the modification route, don't throw the reversing unit away, either keep it in the box with the model, and the next guy will appreciate it, or send to me please 😉. Thanks for the visit!

    • @forrestrobin2712
      @forrestrobin2712 6 днів тому

      @ thanks for the reply. I believe it’s possible either to replace the coil with a permanent magnet or add some diodes to the coil. I’ll probably do a first test with a cheap 0-6-0T (BR89) before trying something more ambitious ! Dublo track seems to work OK with Marklin track, though some of the Dublo pickups object to stud contact - notably my Bristol Castle and LMS 8F 2-8-0 which have plunger pickups for the centre rail under the tender. They really need a continuous third rail (as on older Marklin track.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 6 днів тому

      CoilS, there are 2 on a Märklin universal motor, check my video about reversing units (part 1), where I go over the working principles. I think you'll need to replace the windings with what is known as a HAMO magnet. It might be helpful to find a cheap hamo locomotive (which are all 2-rail conversions of Marklin models, with isolated wheelsets and permanent magnet), and simply replicate the set-up you'll find in there. You might even be able to fit a pickup shoe to one of those because most of the time the screw hole for the orignal marklin version is still there... Basically, one side of the motor needs to be connected to the chassis, the other to the pick-up shoe.You can also buy what marklin calls a high efficency propulsion kit, which contains a 5 pole armature and permanent magnet, there are several references to convert most older märklin locomotives. So many choices....

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 6 днів тому

      some of my 2-10-0s in action: ua-cam.com/video/3bI8Cvd9bmk/v-deo.html or ua-cam.com/video/Gc4TL5-4Bf4/v-deo.html

  • @mizar65cs
    @mizar65cs 6 днів тому

    well .. the bending of the chassis of tender I thought was my view error but after you pointed it was huge: talking about the engine and gears, the locomotor behavior up and down the hill is a clear evidence of the difference between the worm gear and the Märklin one. The tiny Lilliput engine has less torque than the Märklin one due to the rotor construction (dimensions) and how it's placed inside the chassis: the Märklin one is in line with gears and wheels but the Lilliput is perpendicular: those 2 reason (90° and dimension) force to use a worm gear because it transfers more torque despite the increased friction due to the specific design: it's evident on downhill that instead of running away (as Märklin does) it has an intermittent speed due to the backslash and the gears frictions: the engine try to maintain the speed but the gear friction on the wheel slow it down till both "speeds" are even, let me say. I personally prefer the Märklin approach but if you have a long convoy the run away can be a disaster. Thanks a lot and keep going ! Your videos are a mine of gold always

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 6 днів тому

      I would have said the liliput performs the same as Märklin uphill. Transformer settings are the same, load is the same, the locos both slow down. The Liliput is slower because of the gearing. The worm gear behaviour downhill and stopping is probably the reason why marklin waited such a long time to introduce them, they are now a common thing on modern marklin engines and less of a problem thanks to motor regulation on decoders and digital braking modules.Thanks for the visit, glad you find the channel interesting.

  • @madhugn
    @madhugn 6 днів тому

    Thank you for the lovely video. I too have this set and I've digitized the E04 and the BR03. Now I'm in the process of digitizing the BR86. I bought this set from second hand from Germany. My friend, who got this loco from Germany has misplaced the original packaging and the documents (history of Berlin and the operation manual). May I ask you to share the scanned copy of the both the documents as I'm trying to recreate the packaging box myself. Thankfully he gave the factory plates (AEG, Borsig...). If the scanned documents are already available online, please guide me to download them. Thank you!

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 6 днів тому

      Check on one of the marklin forums (marklin-users.net, stummiforum etc...), I am pretty sure you'll find the user manual at least. Original set of booklets also come up for sale on ebay regularly, there are a few now listed for €4.90 + shipping, search for "Marklin 3100 anleitung" on google.

  • @Kapparie
    @Kapparie 7 днів тому

    A very nice collection of American rolling stock. 😃👍 Do you also have the 3062/4062 New Haven and the 3061/4061 Union Pacific? Maybe a bad electrical connection in the rail on the bridge makes the loco only getting current from one side and the resistance of the rail getting noticable here and when passing the bad joint, the loco pickes up speed again. Thanks for the great video. 🙂

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 7 днів тому

      Thanks, the NH and UP models you mention were no longer in the catalogues in th 1980s, so outside of the period of the Märklin production I collect. The bridge has a few power feeds (homemade 😉), and the joints are ok, so no problem of distance/resistance, but this would have definitely been something to look at otherwise 👍. The difference in speeds are just down to the combination of load and torque available at the given transformer setting in this case. Have a good evening, thanks for spending some of your valuable time here today.

  • @ModelTrainFun
    @ModelTrainFun 7 днів тому

    Great Model and thanks for the history of the prototype - awesome collection. Enjoy ;-) Bo

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 7 днів тому

      Many thanks Bo! Thank for your time today.

  • @andreaskahr2583
    @andreaskahr2583 7 днів тому

    Thanks for this great video!

  • @hz7984
    @hz7984 8 днів тому

    Again, fun and interesting at the same time. Thank you!

  • @finlayfraser9952
    @finlayfraser9952 9 днів тому

    Hello Third Rail, I have always been taken by Marklin trains, especially their steam locos. But the 3 rail track always make them look toy like, aka Lionel, and prevents any serious attempt at a scale layout. But at least Lionel avoid the exaggerated track bed.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 9 днів тому

      That's off topic... But for your information Marklin has been making another track system since the 1970s called K-track, with no track bed, for people who wanted to be more prototypical. The m-track was engineered in the toy days and made to be disassembled frequently. Whether to live with the sight of center contacts or not is down to anyone's taste and I wouldn't call any attempt to use K-track for scale modelling unserious. Modelling always involves a compromise somewhere, whatever the level.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 9 днів тому

      Some examples of "serious scale modelling" from a few youtubers, using marklin track systems. There may be plenty of centre contacts on show, but the scenery is so good that you quickly forget about them. Using the "unserious" M-track (what i use in my videos), from Marklinofsweden: ua-cam.com/video/Rpe51kWS87U/v-deo.htmlsi=Dxtttht7CpnbQCgs Using the less "unserious" K-track from Haltepunkt Auwiesen: ua-cam.com/video/_Id0fk3CIRQ/v-deo.htmlsi=aj2VTXNt47xSBH4l There is also the Miniatur Wunderland in Hamburg of course, where a lot of K-track is used.

  • @MMK96
    @MMK96 9 днів тому

    thanks for this interesting comparison of different concepts. 3099 remains one of my favorite machines, and not just for nostalgic reasons! ... and now someone (found on yt) is even offering 3D printed parts to equip these old locomotives with brake imitations for the drive wheels and the front bogie. maybe I'll give it a try!

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 9 днів тому

      The P8 is one of favourites too. Thanks for the visit.

  • @Kapparie
    @Kapparie 12 днів тому

    Interesting video, as always, thanks a lot.😀 25:00 This part at the front is the dynamo driven by steam of course. 🙂 I was always a bit disappointed about the fact the Märklin 3099 didn't have the wheelbrakes modelled and the visability of the large black gears at one side. But I remember that the model included a driver and stoker. This was illustrated on page 14-15 of the 1977 catalog, which as a kid I found very intersting. 🙂

  • @fernlenker
    @fernlenker 13 днів тому

    thank you ! D you have a Dampfspeicherlok ? greetings from germany

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 13 днів тому

      thanks for the visit. I don't have any fireless locomotive.

    • @fernlenker
      @fernlenker 13 днів тому

      @@The3rdRail Hello! in this wild world I love! your calm voice explaining so good with so much background knowledge! Thank you! OH yes please get one ;) i would like so much to herar about what it is used for ! I came over to that, find an photo where one is standing in front of the Zuckerfabrik, where my grandpa once worked. Sad that i never ask him to show me how Zucker was made in germany that days... he never asked me :( so now i got an märklin Set 26504 H0 with T6980 that worked für Henkel that made Persil =) it has four axles on the picture that one had only three... so i searched and found Liliput 103000 seems to have the same color as show on the photo BUT it is just DC please press you thumbs, that i will get it to drive on my märklin AC rails =) as younger i did not like those Lokomotives without Schornstein =) but now, i think for some works it makes sense? All the best whishes to you and your family! Greetings from a great FAN =) ) sincerly yours Stefan

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 13 днів тому

      @@fernlenker 🙏🙏🙏

    • @fernlenker
      @fernlenker 12 днів тому

      @@The3rdRail this hand-pink-waving means? you will panit something pink? why can i do not do this image?

    • @fernlenker
      @fernlenker 12 днів тому

      @@The3rdRail 🙏 OH here it copy s the picture? But what does it mean?

  • @22763344
    @22763344 13 днів тому

    Interesante comparación, solo que al final omiten decir que el motor y transmisión de 5 polos, más silencioso que ese..."molinillo de café" Marklin, 😃 pero, tampoco se le puede pedir mucho a un motor de 5 polos, alma abierta. Ese sistema de motor del filme, ya en los 80s tenía mejoras con los Can Motor, pero en Europa era mucho pedir. Gracias por subir.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 13 днів тому

      I had to leave something for people to comment on :) THe 5-pole in the video is only quieter at very low speed, otherwise, the noise level is not much different, just a slighly quieter type of coffee grinder. Thanks for the visit!

  • @andybuckley9223
    @andybuckley9223 13 днів тому

    This is great and I'm sure the techique is just as applicable to other scales and with other carried materials such as stone / ballast too. I suppose if one wanted to make the loads easily removable, a magnet could be placed within the load for easy unloading off-scene?

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 13 днів тому

      not sure about stone or lighter ballast, it doesn't look very good on the few loads I tried to make. I have seen people use magnets but the loads need space to be able to slide out easily. Thanks for the visit.

  • @allyncooke4286
    @allyncooke4286 13 днів тому

    That was very interesting especially the performance on grades. I have a 3% and 4% grade on my layout and the marklin locos just make it under auto control but need a bit more when using manual, control. I wonder how they would have performed with the original tinplate coaches as opposed to the plastic coaches. Say a consist of 4 tinplate that's the max I can use before it slows the locos down. In fact 3048 Steam loco 1 pacific needs a doubleheader on my grades

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 13 днів тому

      You'll see my 3048 in action with tinplate coaches here: ua-cam.com/video/Gc4TL5-4Bf4/v-deo.html, the 3099 performs well with a long rake of 4002/4003/4004/4005; with 24cm tinplate, my guess would 4 with interior lighting, 5 without.

  • @allyncooke4286
    @allyncooke4286 13 днів тому

    Do you have any problems when running tender back I have found sometimes that the MArklin 3099 mounts the point frog and derails.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 13 днів тому

      no such problem with mine.

  • @allyncooke4286
    @allyncooke4286 13 днів тому

    Love the history lessons. I am a Marklin analogue collector from 1952-1982

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 13 днів тому

      cool, welcome on board.

  • @CM-he8ni
    @CM-he8ni 14 днів тому

    Fascinating and always intrigued how you get all the history of the item you are exhibiting 😊

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 14 днів тому

      I probably have too much time on my hands... 😀

  • @gordonholtshausen4383
    @gordonholtshausen4383 14 днів тому

    Excellent and informative video as usual, thank you.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 14 днів тому

      Glad you enjoyed it, thanks a lot!

  • @modelspoor1962
    @modelspoor1962 14 днів тому

    Hi, that ‘thing’ behind the smokestack is the alternator for the electricity in the loco. Oh, and many thanks for the video. Very nice!

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 14 днів тому

      Thanks for the info! Glad you liked the video.

  • @mountainmanpedro
    @mountainmanpedro 14 днів тому

    Great video. I have the Marklin model with a missing screw in the dome, and the spares I have ordered all are the incorrect size despite my and my dealers' best effort. If you have the ability to identify that screw by size or number, I would appreciate it.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 14 днів тому

      I'll try and remember to check this for you. Thanks for the visit!

    • @mountainmanpedro
      @mountainmanpedro 14 днів тому

      @The3rdRail thanks. I removed it 40 years ago and filled and painted the hole in the body in my younger-selve's pursuit of realism! I had read Berndt Schmidt's book Marklin Bahn mitt Pfiff, and set about it with what I could find around the house!

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 14 днів тому

      i think it is the same screw as for the Marklin 3000

  • @kellypaws
    @kellypaws 14 днів тому

    Another lovely video. I'd agree that it's a tough one to split. I would say the plastic tender chassis might be able to be bent back to the correct profile with very hot water, or a hair dryer. But it would need some perpendicular strengthening to hold it in profile.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 14 днів тому

      or some time in the oven 😀 Glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @PAULHOLLAND-f6h
    @PAULHOLLAND-f6h 14 днів тому

    Another well researched and presented video. I do have an off topic question… I recently purchased a 3005 loco on e bay…too cheap not to….however when following your recommended service which I perform on all new purchases I found when replacing the traction tires this loco did not have a shoulder bolt locating the drive linkages, but rather a ‘c’ clip?? This did not cause an issue [bit fiddle as it is tiny/] but I have not seen this on any other locomotive?? Any ideas??

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 14 днів тому

      Thanks! I don't know about the C clip I am afraid.

    • @PAULHOLLAND-f6h
      @PAULHOLLAND-f6h 14 днів тому

      ⁠@@The3rdRail. Thanks, I will posed the question on a Marklin on line forum.

  • @christophetardivat234
    @christophetardivat234 14 днів тому

    Great video! i am lucky to have two 3rail liliput version of the br 38, one is the scnf version 230-F-317 and one is po midi 230-715 grau-schwarz, both with liliput carriages, alsace lorraine 1-2-3 kl + van and po midi 1-2 kl, 2nd kl, 3 kl and van. They add a bit of frenchness to the layout!

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 14 днів тому

      a bit of frenchness is always good 😉

  • @lindaoffenbach
    @lindaoffenbach 14 днів тому

    Interesting comparison. We've seen some Liliput models, vintage and contemporary. Their quality usually is well good actually. Compared to M both do indeed have their pros and cons. M's internal engineering at the time was at a significant higher intricate level and precision perhaps, but somehow L's 5-pole motor does compensate to some degree, although internals being a bit rudimentary. Externally both have their own things, but somehow we tend leaning towards M but not by all that much tbh. However, M's running characteristics seem to be much more solid. Thank for this lovely upload again 🙂

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 14 днів тому

      Hello Linda, thanks for sharing! Until next time...

  • @ivovanzon164
    @ivovanzon164 14 днів тому

    The big tank on the tender is for the gas lamps. If you look closely at the pictures without the tank you can see the power cable and the different lamp design

  • @roguico
    @roguico 14 днів тому

    Very enlightening, I love your videos. Regards.

  • @Davidstrains2056
    @Davidstrains2056 14 днів тому

    I wasn't expecting the locomotives to be BR 38s, but still, great video!

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 14 днів тому

      Thanks for spending some of your valuable time here today.

  • @ingoprasse989
    @ingoprasse989 14 днів тому

    As always, your videos are informative, engaging and full of love and positive emotions for the Märklin brand. It brings a lot of joy. Thank you!

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 14 днів тому

      Thanks a lot, glad you enjoyed it.

    • @kellypaws
      @kellypaws 14 днів тому

      @@ingoprasse989 Well put. They are excellent videos. Despite another UA-camr being held up as a gold standard in reviews, the 3rd rail is considerably more even handed and conscientious in the detail.

    • @fernlenker
      @fernlenker 13 днів тому

      @@kellypaws OH YES it is ! =)

  • @rocknroll4642
    @rocknroll4642 15 днів тому

    Thanks a lot for sharing your experience with these carriages. They look beautiful indeed but bear a lot of trickiness in terms of smooth running on older tracks. I have C-tracks but it’s always a bit of a challenge to tame some of the newer and highly detailed rolling stock from other manufacturers to run smoothly. I also have the Etat 231 in my collection and I run it boldly, but happily with non matching, but reliable Märklin carriages. The cost and additional modifications do not match up to my expectations and it’s a pity that Märklin never bothered with a matching set of carriages. Thanks for presenting and it’s always a pleasure to watch your videos.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail 14 днів тому

      Yes, this type of fun is not cheap 😀... Fortunately it is not always like this, but the wheels swap will be quite a common occurence. Thanks for the visit, glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @CM-he8ni
    @CM-he8ni 24 дні тому

    Jamais ennuyeux, always a joy to behold. Very therapeutic to watch and listen to. Makes me wonder why there is a legion of enthusiasts who seek to deaden the noise . To use the most misused word in America. Awesome 😮