Very cool, I love adding additional wetness by dialing in a super crispy gated Waveshaper patch, then mixing it in at like 10% before a limiter. Also if you wanna try and replace the vocoders with something else, it's fun to export short wet sounds like water gurgling, and use those as a convolution verb profile instead of an IR.
I never thought of the parallel waveshaper, thanks for the suggestion! And thanks for enjoying the video, you were the reason I started posting these in the first place☺
He does really get into some of the nuance and detail that is often sort of like 'niche info' within the sound design world, so happy to see its being shared. Really awesome, thought provoking video, I agree. :)
30 seconds in and I knew vocoders where going to be the core of the processing chain. Id be interested to see what portal and infiltrator would bring to the table.
thank you for this, if you’re into bass music and destiny 2, check Space Wizard dude makes some wonky sounds that even sometimes sample destiny dialogue
i have been putting off learning game sound design for too long one of my favorite sounds is in alien isolation towards the end of the game with the reactors thing, it’s so amazing
Awesome video! I’ve been looking for this type of sound design from having watched the anime ‘that time I got reincarnated as a slime.’ Video editing quality was also perfect! 🔥
bro try using a shaper to modulate your vocoders, ott thresholds, and macro 1 inside sfx simultaneously, would sound sick with this chain... also could be cool to use a shaper to modulate an lfo curve inside serum over time as to introduce parabolic movement
This is huge for music production! Love it. Thanks for sharing your process so susinctly and clearly. I would definitely buy content like this if your ever interested is sharing your work.
This is really fucking cool! Thanks man, it's really awesome of you to share this with others instead of gate keeping. Now we can all make our own, unique sounds. I plan on using this for EDM and bass music. Cheers!
I've been really surprised at the number of people using this for EDM actually, I thought it would only reach the game audio audience. I'm glad I can help people out though.
Audacity doesn't have a lot of capabilities with effects in my experience, I don't know if it'd be possible in there since the main elements are Serum and vocoders, neither of which Audacity has.
would have really benefited from seeing you actually go through this inside ableton breaking your chain down. this feels super back and forth and hard to follow
Thank you for a really informative video! I've been looking for how to make these organic sounds for music production but never really knew what to look for and now I get this masterpiece in my recommended. Love the sounds! Also I'm using FL studio and I find the vocodex is creating a really harsh high end and I was wondering how to mitigate that.
I'm not familiar with Vocodex but something like MRatioMB (free), with its noise/tonal setting can help smooth out high end in sounds like this, if you're ok with the slight alias-y quality it can give. I use it sometimes to help "worldise" these sounds.
Thanks! I use the "Prometheum" skin, which came with Serum for me- clicking on the little magnifying glass next to the logo opens the menu to select skins.
I’ve never used FL Studio, but if the vocodex has a similar effect to Ableton’s vocoder then I’m sure it’ll work. MFreeformPhase is free and could achieve a similar effect if you’re looking for alternatives.
Amazing breakdown! Say, you brushed through the effects chain and I was wondering what third part stuff you had on it and why/ if you decided to choose them over others? if that makes sense. like NC-17 over a limiter or transient master over any other transient shaper. Obviously the chain can work in different ways with these factors in mind. But I'm just curious really. Also, how much of the sound do you think comes down to the Serum FX? I might try and come up with a similar chain with Vital. Anyway again great video. Love to see it. :)
Thanks for watching/enjoying it! To be honest a lot of the specific plugin choices come down to stuff I've used a lot and that I know sounds good, or stuff that has a very unique effect (like OTT's very characterful sound). For example I use NC-17 (which is free btw) on a lot of stuff because I know it's pretty subtle and adds some slight distortion that gets picked up by the OTT, and the Transient Masters I find are just better at picking up transients than the only other transient shaper I have (which is the Kiloheartz one, also free btw). So in that sense I'd say the effects aren't super crucial to the sound, because if you put enough compression/distortion on any sound it'll give you a good result lol. Honestly the only thing SerumFX allows me to do that Vital wouldn't is running field recordings/audio files through it live, because the FX version isn't technically a MIDI instrument, it's an effect with oscillators. So Vital will definitely work perfectly, you'll just get more synthy sounds- a lot of the sounds I showed here were just using SerumFX's oscillators tho so it's not like it's worse in any way :)
Hi Orrin! Thx for the awesome tutorial, sounds great! One question remains for me: what exactly happens with those two vocoders... is it just like Kilohearts Disperser, meaning it messes with the signal's phase different for every frequency? I am trying to reproduce the very first step, but I am using Reaper instead of Ableton and therefore do not have access to that specific vocoder and setting. Thanks in advance! :)
Thanks for watching the video! I really wish I could tell you how Ableton's vocoders work, but I don't personally. The information is probably on the internet somewhere. As for recreating it in Reaper, MVocoder seems to be a good alternative, as well as Dispersers if you can get the settings right- I've never used Disperser myself, and the reason I think this works so well is due to the more "crunchy" sound Ableton's vocoders give, as opposed to Disperser's slightly less tight/punchy sound. Something like Polyverse's Manipulator may achieve a similar effect as well, but I don't have experience with that either.
@@OrrinKeep Thanks a lot for the reply and the further input! :) Both of those products are already on my shopping list and I will give them a try! Thanks again and best wishes!
Very cool, I love adding additional wetness by dialing in a super crispy gated Waveshaper patch, then mixing it in at like 10% before a limiter. Also if you wanna try and replace the vocoders with something else, it's fun to export short wet sounds like water gurgling, and use those as a convolution verb profile instead of an IR.
I never thought of the parallel waveshaper, thanks for the suggestion! And thanks for enjoying the video, you were the reason I started posting these in the first place☺
@@OrrinKeep oh really! Thank you so much :)
Watching this for music production purposes. Thank you for this!
Same!
i would hope so
Same!
I'm watching for private reasons 😈
saame
This is such an insanely well put together and thorough breakdown. So many things I never thought about doing but will be trying now. Solid shit
He does really get into some of the nuance and detail that is often sort of like 'niche info' within the sound design world, so happy to see its being shared. Really awesome, thought provoking video, I agree. :)
hi neosics
@@xystumlol YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Not too solid of shit though, just right, firm yet forgiving
30 seconds in and I knew vocoders where going to be the core of the processing chain. Id be interested to see what portal and infiltrator would bring to the table.
thank you for this, if you’re into bass music and destiny 2, check Space Wizard dude makes some wonky sounds that even sometimes sample destiny dialogue
I haven't heard of them, I'll be sure to check them out thanks!
great job, nice sounds, also love the thorough breakdown
I feel my little brain expanding 💪 thank you for the education
i have been putting off learning game sound design for too long
one of my favorite sounds is in alien isolation towards the end of the game with the reactors thing, it’s so amazing
OMG TY! I've been looking for how to make this sound for sooo looong!
I found several videos, but none of them came as close as you! Absolute legend!
Awesome video! I’ve been looking for this type of sound design from having watched the anime ‘that time I got reincarnated as a slime.’ Video editing quality was also perfect! 🔥
Absolutely love sound design. It’s fun to see how other people work through problems and how they end up solving them. Thanks for sharing
The sound design process is actually immensely helpful, gonna go make a track with your teachings and see what I can do!!!
wow fantastic tutorial thanks so much!
bro try using a shaper to modulate your vocoders, ott thresholds, and macro 1 inside sfx simultaneously, would sound sick with this chain... also could be cool to use a shaper to modulate an lfo curve inside serum over time as to introduce parabolic movement
That’s a great idea, I haven’t been using envelope following/shapers as much as I should so I’ll definitely give this a go, thanks!
Hi Orrin, Thanks for your shares.
This is huge for music production! Love it. Thanks for sharing your process so susinctly and clearly. I would definitely buy content like this if your ever interested is sharing your work.
nice to see some AirWindows plugins in the chain ❤
This is basically the same technique Brakence uses for a lot of the percussion/fx in his music! we love scifi noises
Super dope, King!
This is really fucking cool! Thanks man, it's really awesome of you to share this with others instead of gate keeping. Now we can all make our own, unique sounds. I plan on using this for EDM and bass music. Cheers!
I've been really surprised at the number of people using this for EDM actually, I thought it would only reach the game audio audience. I'm glad I can help people out though.
@@OrrinKeep absolutely! I'd like to make a sample pack geared towards game or cinema production, and one geared towards music. Cheers!
society if you had dropped the rack: 🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃nah but great video, really love these type of sounds
I've been curious about these sounds for a little while now and this was super helpful. Thanks for the upload!
cool and concise, respect!
Kilohearts Disperser is great for adding weight to these sorts of sounds.
this is gold bro, thamk you for sharing
Very cool tutorial and I don't see many people do well explaining this in depth as you have. Great work!
this is so good wth
Great sound design!
this is so informative, thank you
You can also use a disperser effect.
amazing video - thank you!
Beautiful! Thanks. Can this type of sound effects be created in audacity?
Audacity doesn't have a lot of capabilities with effects in my experience, I don't know if it'd be possible in there since the main elements are Serum and vocoders, neither of which Audacity has.
tysm. your underrated fr
would have really benefited from seeing you actually go through this inside ableton breaking your chain down. this feels super back and forth and hard to follow
hidden gem!
Absolutely love this type of sound design, i appreciate you posting this! Subbed!
awesome man
Really great stuff!
Frequency shifter set to 50% mix. Raise or lower the hertz setting by +/- 0-50 hertz (or whagever) to taste.
Bro i love it!🔥😍🙏
This was such a helpful and well designed tutorial. Thank you so much! Subbed, and looking forward to what you put out in the future 👍
Thank you for a really informative video! I've been looking for how to make these organic sounds for music production but never really knew what to look for and now I get this masterpiece in my recommended. Love the sounds! Also I'm using FL studio and I find the vocodex is creating a really harsh high end and I was wondering how to mitigate that.
Have you figured out how to do it yet?
@@keld_ Not yet but for now I found that modifying the input sound helps. Some kind of dynamic eq at the end might work as well.
I'm not familiar with Vocodex but something like MRatioMB (free), with its noise/tonal setting can help smooth out high end in sounds like this, if you're ok with the slight alias-y quality it can give. I use it sometimes to help "worldise" these sounds.
You could check out Lorn's music, there are similarities with what you are experimenting with, might give you some ideas! Thanks for the video
Great video, watching blurred gameplay kind of gives me a headache though
Great vid! Learned a bunch :) Curious what that visualizer/analyzer at the very beginning is?
Thanks! The visualiser is Ozone Imager by Izotope, which is free
@@OrrinKeep Awesome, thanks! Looking forward to more uploads ^^
Very nice breakdown - exactly what I was lookiing for!
By the way: What is your Serum Skin called? It looks soo good ^^
Thanks! I use the "Prometheum" skin, which came with Serum for me- clicking on the little magnifying glass next to the logo opens the menu to select skins.
@@OrrinKeep Thank you for letting me know! I didn't know it was a free skin I already had lol - but ty now I am actually using it
I was doing a similar thing a while back but with fusion rifle sounds instead.
This is great! Does this apply to FL studio's Vocodex? If not, are there any good (free) alternatives to Ableton's vocoder
I’ve never used FL Studio, but if the vocodex has a similar effect to Ableton’s vocoder then I’m sure it’ll work. MFreeformPhase is free and could achieve a similar effect if you’re looking for alternatives.
vocodex is ableton's vocoder but with a lot more functionality
disperser is also nice
(enum's allpassphase is a free alternative)
I will 100% try that out now, I've been looking for an alternative @@cutewavelets
Amazing breakdown! Say, you brushed through the effects chain and I was wondering what third part stuff you had on it and why/ if you decided to choose them over others? if that makes sense. like NC-17 over a limiter or transient master over any other transient shaper. Obviously the chain can work in different ways with these factors in mind. But I'm just curious really. Also, how much of the sound do you think comes down to the Serum FX? I might try and come up with a similar chain with Vital.
Anyway again great video. Love to see it. :)
Thanks for watching/enjoying it! To be honest a lot of the specific plugin choices come down to stuff I've used a lot and that I know sounds good, or stuff that has a very unique effect (like OTT's very characterful sound). For example I use NC-17 (which is free btw) on a lot of stuff because I know it's pretty subtle and adds some slight distortion that gets picked up by the OTT, and the Transient Masters I find are just better at picking up transients than the only other transient shaper I have (which is the Kiloheartz one, also free btw). So in that sense I'd say the effects aren't super crucial to the sound, because if you put enough compression/distortion on any sound it'll give you a good result lol.
Honestly the only thing SerumFX allows me to do that Vital wouldn't is running field recordings/audio files through it live, because the FX version isn't technically a MIDI instrument, it's an effect with oscillators. So Vital will definitely work perfectly, you'll just get more synthy sounds- a lot of the sounds I showed here were just using SerumFX's oscillators tho so it's not like it's worse in any way :)
I‘d Like to See that kind of tutorial for FL Studio❤
wow
Hi Orrin!
Thx for the awesome tutorial, sounds great!
One question remains for me: what exactly happens with those two vocoders... is it just like Kilohearts Disperser, meaning it messes with the signal's phase different for every frequency?
I am trying to reproduce the very first step, but I am using Reaper instead of Ableton and therefore do not have access to that specific vocoder and setting.
Thanks in advance! :)
Thanks for watching the video! I really wish I could tell you how Ableton's vocoders work, but I don't personally. The information is probably on the internet somewhere. As for recreating it in Reaper, MVocoder seems to be a good alternative, as well as Dispersers if you can get the settings right- I've never used Disperser myself, and the reason I think this works so well is due to the more "crunchy" sound Ableton's vocoders give, as opposed to Disperser's slightly less tight/punchy sound. Something like Polyverse's Manipulator may achieve a similar effect as well, but I don't have experience with that either.
@@OrrinKeep Thanks a lot for the reply and the further input! :) Both of those products are already on my shopping list and I will give them a try! Thanks again and best wishes!
Reminds me a lot of Amon Tobins stuff.
Dude really good shit, you by chance have a video where you make anime type sfx?
I don't unfortunately, but I know Marshall McGee has a really good video on that:
ua-cam.com/video/8uJnIijUnX8/v-deo.html
@@OrrinKeep I’ve seen his video, I believe the anime sounds I use right now are made by him
Would you be so kind as to share this Ableton group of vsts and fx? Thanks and happy New Year.
WET
this rules
but can you make it in fl studio
As cool as this sounds, lightning should sound like lightning, not water.
Show the process, you talk over like a seminar...