I love this. Wonderful that these old beauties are still in existence. Many MANY old steam engines and their components were scrapped for metal in WWII and are sadly gone forever. These old trains are a rare link to our past.
WW2 actually delayed a lot of steam locos from being scrapped. There was a huge demand on railroads during that time period and not nearly enough diesel power to go around.
@@Waty8413 that was for the bigger stuff that ended up getting scrapped after the war, scrap drives took numerous pre 1900 era locomotives that are irreplaceable at this point
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany "Irreplaceable". I always hate that word when it comes to machinery, because if enough people cared, building a new one would be far from impossible. If you can get the design drawings of the locomotives, with the right funding and facilities it wouldn't be very hard at all to make new ones.
Thank you Fred for saving these Locos.And a new generation may restore them to running condition one day.Rather than dragging them out to sit dead in a museum.They're not going to rot in Oregon nice and dry.
@The Model Trainer yes but it’s on most likely someone’s land.. it would technically be trespassing.. just because it’s abandoned doesn’t mean the land it’s on is not owned by an individual
I have been involved with restorations in the past. The cost or bring a steamer up to specification and certifying it to operate can be in the millions depending on the condition of the locomotive to start with. Getting a steamer from the scrappers is relatively cheap compared to the cost of an "operating restoration". Many people have embarked on restoring a locomotive to operating condition, only stalling our do to lack of funding. One has to do a in depth inspection of the locomotive to see if it is really restore-able...let me back up, ANYTHING is restore-able if you have the funds...There are projects going on now where 50% of the locomotive has new custom components that has to be specially built because the originals are beyond repair. Most cases boilers are a "do-over", fireboxes are generally need to be rebuilt, drive cylinders are usually seized so that is another do over...the old bearing journals on the tenders are generally not acceptable on most lines so they need to be replaced with roller bearing, asbestos removal everywhere, brake systems have to be updated to be "road legal", and I could go on. If a museum has their own trackage then they can skimp on replacing the tender trucks and even upgrading brakes but my point in everything has to be considered, and it just ain't cheap...even with volunteers doing the heavy lifting. . THEN, you have to maintain it and get it re-certified. Keep in mind, the move from steam to diesel was every bit about the cost of maintaining a steam locomotive. They were expensive to keep on the rails and diesel locomotives were much easier to maintain and parts were interchangeable so repair and maintenance was also less of an issue. So you want to do this anyway you say...funding is the biggest issue. You have to draw in investors. You see all these locomotives and parts everywhere so you have to ask yourself, what locomotive in this yard is going to interest investors to pay to restore it. Is there something special or unique about any one of these. Is there any history beyond "just being old". Someone said on this comment section "I have $120,000 to spend right now"...well that will allow you to buy it, have a rigging company pick it up and truck it to...where?...if you want to transport via rail you still need a rigger to put it on a special flat car and have it secured because no mainline railroad is going to let you put that on their rails...you need to have someone look at it to see what needs to happen and you are likely looking at asbestos abatement. If you are lucky you may have enough money and available parts to do a cosmetic restoration when it is all done....but I dont see any of these locomotives that are in a condition and or have enough parts still remaining to make the candidates for restoration without substantial funds. I can tell you there are plenty of museums that have loco in far better condition that would be candidates if you can talk them out of it.
NC Steamfan, most of these ones won't take much to get them certified, they were running recently at museums and could be broght back with minimal work
RV'n you are correct. They will cost too much to restore and when finished will burn fossil fuel. This is being phased out due to global warming climate change. They are a safety hazard and an eyesore that need to be cut for scrap asap.
That dry desert air really does a great job of preserving those machines for future restoration. A large portion of restored steam locos here in the UK sat in a scrap yard on the south cost of Wales so as you can imagine they rusted up pretty bad.
Wow, I feel like a little boy at the candy store, I've love trains and still do, I don't own these real ones, but I've got ho scale trains about 80 different frieght cars and 17 locomotives, mostly all diesels and couple steam that do smoke, I like the self tender, with them white wall rings on its wheels, great job, thanks for sharing 👍
Thank you for showing the current condition of these engines. It's a shame that their owner (Fred Kepner) hasn't thought of selling them off to more deserving homes. He bought them ages ago and hasn't done a thing with them since - his reluctance to sell them is only going to make them more vulnerable to scrap merchants. #SaveTheKepnerSteamers
yes but so long as they remain around, there is always the hope that some will come back to life, but time takes it toll, but all hope is not lost, so long as they are not cut up, new metal can be patched in with many things and boilers can be rebuilt, I am sure if you sent one to strausburg they could have one up and running in short order, if you have all the parts, but if they start to just haphazardly cut them up then that is a real problem, but so long as they are there there is that slight chance they will see new life, as for cosmetic restoration well there are lots of places that could use a locomotive they have all kinds of rail cars but could use an engine, and when funds com available once the metal is stablized it can be evaluated for rebuilding, just like the fort wayne railroad will problably do for that walbash loco we have, its one of only 2 walbash rr steamers that survived the torch for now, out of all of them there are only 2 and we are slowly working on getting the thing freed up and derusted, but we always have many irons in the fire to take care of with 765 and current operations.
It saddens my heart to see all those beautiful old steam engine just sitting there rotting away, it is almost a fait worth than being sent to the scrappers torch.
I live near merrill and it's actually a nearly perfect area to store old equipment as this region gets less than 13'' of precipitation a year. So very little rust.
Like the old guy down the road that refuses to sell his old cars sitting in a field. By the time he dies,they are too far gone to restore. I had to see that happen. His kids were mad also. They got nothing but scrap value because he didn't do anything to preserve them. Same thing going on with those trains. Sad.
that could possibly happen, but fred does his best to keep these engines preserved by storing them in a very dry climate and covering up the locomotives smoke stacks they should be safe for a good while
He's more than likely saved them from being scrapped in the first place. There isn't droves of people looking to spend the time and money to restore these things.
Seeing Lihue #4 (Ex Mcbryde Sugar #1 is what she actually is) still in sort of one piece, gives me some hope and some faith in humanity. She was renumbered to 304 by Gene Autry for use on his film railroad. Hoping one day, she'll find her way back to Kauai.
Locomotive number 100 and the Sierra engine number 36 were once owned and operated by the White Mountain Scenic Railway in McNary Arizona. Both had been bought and used for short haul excursion service around 1962. They both ran until 1974 when the Railway shut down and everything was sold off. The remaining part of the railroad is now the Apache Railway and only operates a couple times a week at most. I rode the train back in 1971 with my family, I was 6, what a really neat experience, I will never forget.
Unfortunately, most are not for sale, or they would have gone their separate ways years ago. People have talked about the Sierra engines finding better homes for years, but a serious offer on any of them has yet to be made and accepted.
Chris, thanks for the extinct steam locomotive video. I agree with you on the Lima built AC-9's man ! What perhaps is even more regrettable is that not one video exists of the 80 odd 2-6-6-6 Alleghenies in action from the 40's- 50's built by Lima for the C&O and the Virginian RR's ! I' d give my eye teeth to see one of those monsters, which were even more powerful than the UP Big Boys, in action on a coal drag in the mountains of WVA ! Mike S.
That SP Vanderbilt tender caught my eye. I model the SP in HO Scale and I have a model of one of SP's MT-4 Mountain steam locomotives. It has a Vanderbilt tender, just like the real ones. With that being said, Sierra #18 looks to be in the best condition of them all. All the others would take millions of dollars to restore. Even the GN, though mostly intact, would still cost a small fortune to restore. Sadly, BNSF does not have a steam locomotive preservation program.
The vandy tender is off the GN consolidation, the Sierra is missing its tender and all its hardware as well as being almost completely warn out. There's a small prarie that Apperently is a good way through a restoration but needs chassis work.
Yes yes there is Great Northern Vanderbilt tender but there's also the Southern Pacific one as well. Did not say Southern Pacific lines and set Southern Pacific Railroad and the Great Northern Vanderbilt Ender is a little bit in front of that SP tender
Ever since i was little i told my parents i was saving up for a car, when really i was saving up for a narrow gauge steam engine or standard gauge steam engine to run on some track near my house in nc . i hope i can find an engine for a reasonable price...
I always heard that Sierra #38 was scrapped but then I heard it was simply dismantled. It would take a lot of work and money to get it to run again but its possible. A classic compound shortline Mallet that was later used for logging. -Stan Fischer
I remember having debates about these locomotives 20 years ago. There was a lot of interest in several North West railway museums and quite a few private collectors. I know it was next to impossible to get photographs of these locomotives as people were never allowed on the property. Many people even wondered if they still existed. I think the only people that ever made any headway with Fred is the Mount Rainier railroad. I noticed one of their tenders on the property so I imagine they made a trade along with some cash for something.
I heard railtown1897 wanted something from him and collected LOTS of money but he wouldn't budge it was probably like pulling teeth for Fred to get rid of something
I am not 100% sure but the tender at 2:09 sure looks like it came from the Mount Rainier scenic railroad. I know they had quite a bit of rolling stock rusting away including tenders, on a spur about 1/4 mile from the Mineral shop in the late 90's. The number 5 has a identical tender. Maybe they had a surplus tender for the #5 that they traded for something. Logging companies often kept tenders for fire fighting long after steam was dropped.
While volunteering for a rail road museum in Minnesota, I once asked a knowledgeable person how many steam engines are left in the US. He said, more than anyone who wants to spend the money on them to bring back to working condition. All of you who are unhappy about these engines "rotting away", lets see the money. LOL
well said but the thing of it is, most of the locomotives out there are done warn out, these are in good close to operable condition if there was an option, these would be saved in a heart beet
+PopsProductions124 so you have no adress I have a 120k$ yes that it right and I like old things old toys engines don't scrap them U could make 1 out of them and I'm not some guy just want the adress I aculy like them have been love old stuff I hate new and I like to build bring life back to them don't tell me U wouldent want to live forever I would like to know the adress but I'm sure your no going to ...ADRESSS IF U CAN
And here's a something nobody is talking about, steam powered equipment has to be certified every few years by a boiler inspector which are few and far between nowadays. Plus no matter how much your steam engine is used the tubes inside the boiler has to get replaced every 5 years i believe it is and the type of steam pipes aren't manufactured in the United States anymore so your only option is to import them from Germany and there's a minimum amount that you have to order which is way more than one locomotive or any steam boiler needs so it's a very expensive toy train which has very little chance of making back the money you invest in it.
Kraig Cochran + actually you are only half right, people with class 1 boilers licences are normally employed in industrial,commercial or power plant's today and are not far and few between as one would think. the point of the inspection is to inspect integrity of the boiler, the flue pipes inside the boiler carry the heat via draft thru length of the boiler to heat water, and (depending on the type of boiler) the flue pipes are either in full contact with the water, (immersion type) or water is totally Isolated from draught box (radiant type ) makes the difference in efficiency and maintenance requirements. also water quality plays a roll, back in the hey day of steam water was generally collected but not much was paid mind to quality i.e. dissolved mineral content, dirt, etc. and these factors played a huge role in boiler longevity. today most industrial/restored historical boilers draw water of a filtered and chemically softened water source via filters, and catalyzing inline water softeners ( same as residential equipment in operation) just bigger. And to address the pipe availability for flues these can be had from U.S. distributors.
excellent video I like it when there are so many steam locomotives. There's a Shay and articulated locomotive. a lot of consolidation some switcher engines little bit everything. Is that like a scrap yard or some sort of junk yard. I like to know who the owner of that is that is pretty neat. I've said this a lot of steam engines are out there like that the old Woods here in Ohio there's a lot of old locomotives out there in the middle of nowhere. but excellent video well done my friend keep up the good work I like your model trains to your age shows everything you got your american flyer everything
+Chris Henningsen. i was just looking at the pile of rusty rails over at this video and wonder. i heard a story about the white pass and youkon railroad and with every visitor not only keep the railroad running but also goes to mantence and including addition on there trackage. so who knows. the white pass could reach the north pole. the first 3 foot gauge railroad to reach santa claus for those who still believe. and white pass is alway looking for new editions on there route with any sorce for railroad tracks. just thinking about it and with today. here is food for thought just because locomotives. have lost there purpose does it mean they should remain that way. i guess I'm just an old soul. and pass life railroad engineer a couple years ago
When I was 8 years old I rode on a train in mcnary az the engine pulling us was no36 and 100 was sitting next to it we then they both were on the White Mountain Railroad. It was truly one of the best day of my life. We went on the trip and stopped and had a steak and potatoes lunch then back on the trip through scenery that makes you love the outdoors. Miss it very much
Why doesn't someone purchase some of these engines and try to preserve them? IRM hasn't had a steam locomotive added to their collection in years. Heck, it doesn't have to run, it'd just be a nice display piece! You know, clean it up, put some paint on it, make it look pretty! And if at some point the bill fits, restore it to operating condition!
IRM has tons of locomotives including ines with wheel arrangements that there are no operational locomotives of like 0-8-0, I do think there is a FEC 0-8-0 that is being restored to operate.
Raymond Leggs, Was being restored. The person who owned it died several years ago and the place it was stored forced its removal. There is a youtube video of it making the trip. It is on a friendly railroad so there still is a chance for it. That railroad just bought back one of it's former locos and is going to restore it back to operable condition.
At 3:09, that's a track cart sitting on another one behind the Speeder. My buddy had one he bought from a railroader. I'd love to rebuild that Speeder too! Some priceless pieces here waiting, hopefully, to someday be rebuilt and run.
Excellent video... Loved the footage and enjoyed your music selection ;-). This video needs more views... I think you need to include "abandoned" in the title... seems to be popular click-bait word these days, but in your case it's genuine.
Very very cool. I used to know a bit about this yard of forgotten iron, but the knowledge seems to have escaped me now. An awesome video indeed. Where did you find the audio for this video? Some pretty good tunes.
the first song is called cold frosty morning by Bela Fleck the 2nd one is called lonely coyote by the wayfarers the 3rd one is from this video, ua-cam.com/video/RhCjYNKXNvk/v-deo.html
I know that over the years, people has commented that they have tried to get some of those engines from Fred and the price they were quoted, was more than the price you can get a working steam locomotive for. Yreka found out about Fred still claiming he owned them and wanted to sell then when his lawyer put an ad out, offering them for sale. I contacted YWRR and they said the YWRR owned them and no-way was anyone going to remove them from their property. After YWRR went bankrupt, the cars were sold and scrapped; without offering them for sale to museums, tourist railroads or collectors. There are a couple cars left (only one on trucks); and the New Milwaukee Road Railway Co. wants them and has a GoFundMe donation account. www.gofundme.com/reopening-milwaukee-road-line-in-sd
They aren't worth cutting up for steel and they are in a reasonably safe location. Anyone with serious money should hire an investigator to contact the owner, but don't bother if all you have is dreams. Cash talks and the hull cost will be a lot less than replacing boilers and machine shop work to return "locomotive shaped objects" to runners. Anyone with less money should consider donating to existing operations elsewhere. Everyone wants to see live steam in action but far fewer will help make it happen.
From what I've heard in the past, Fred has offered units before; but at an extremely out in space price. Then there's the issue of the passenger cars that went to the YWRR. The railroad claimed they bought them and Kepner said he only loaned the cars to them (that's what I've been told). Our hope is that when he finally passes on, someone will want to sell them at a reasonalbe price; and that they are worth restoring. I've seen a couple of them when they sat at the Cottage Grove Depot along I-5. That was in early 2000's and in bad condition then.
There is one YWRR passenger car left and one or two baggage cars (the one for sure is on wheels). Beings that i most likely will have a need for them on an abandoned line that I am a in talks to get, I began talks with the current management of the YWRR about them and he said to offer a price. I'm going down in two weeks to Redding; and will stop and inspect them while in-route either too or from Redding. Anyone know their condition; and also their value. Only the passenger car has trucks and is on live rail. The baggage car is on trucks but on isolated rail and another car (if it's not the Amtrak unit, that's not for sale), is not on' trucks, but sits on blocks. Give me an idea as to their condition and worth. I really am going to work to get them. Need some YWRR units saved and operated in tourist or museum service.
they are in poor shape this past summer we went up there and saw what was left of the place the cars are mussing interior parts and have been vandalized including broken windows but there not to far gone! easily repaired
Just found this video again. Glen Alden #28 once ran at Pine Creek RR when they were located north of Freehold NJ on Route 9. It had some quirks that Pine Creek couldn't afford to repair back then, so they passed on the deal to take it.
Satellite shows something else on the rails between the feed store and the highway. It looks like a crane and boom car, and a passenger car. Did you get shots of it,or was it not there when you visited?
I've seen it. It's a 150-ton steam crane that belonged to Southern Pacific in Klamath Falls. They were going to scrap it until Fred talked them out of it. They moved it down there for him and there it sits, with everything else. Sierra 38 was built new for Weyerhauser's Klamath Falls operation as their #4, so it's cool she's back "home". It breaks my heart to see her just rusting away. I've spoken with Fred a half-dozen times about getting grant money and some volunteers to help get at least one of those engines going again, but it's like talking to a brick wall. I'm afraid that when he passes they'll just get cut up. What a shame.
105 and her tender are there. The tender is the one that says VSP&SSR or something like that on the tender, I can't remember the road off hand. It was a tourist line that ran in the 60s and 70s somewhere up in Oregon. The whole line has since been ripped up. I've got a United brass model of the same engine :)
All restorable, just need finance and cooperation from the owner. I have seen locos in New Zealand in far worse condition pulled from riverbeds totally restored.
The Uk was late in using diesels and the mad rush to convert meant many good steam engines were parked for scrap. The chap who bought a lot of them had plenty of other work and kept them. Most are now either running again or being renovated. The UK is only a small island and steam trains are quite common, even on main lines. There is a brand new one - the A1 class Tornado - and there is going to be more. In April 2017 it was the first steam engine to clock 100 mph in over 50 years. They are all owned by clubs and Trusts. Are we mad ? Of course, what other way to live is there.
we need to save these engines there is a lot of locomotives. Pickering lumber #8 should go to the mt rainer scenic if it was opening and could be a running mate to Pickering lumber #11. A good place for 38, 18, 36 would be at rail town 1897.
What could actually make sense would be to take the biggest most powerful steam locomotives ever built, the NY Central Niagara's, and build new ones fed with oil, not high polluting coal, and make use of all the modern alloys, and technologies to make them as powerful as any modern diesel electric locomotive. That way they could actually make money for their owners. It'd be a worthy challenge if nothing else with a plausible goal.
The last time I saw Sierra #38, May '94, she was at McCloud, CA in about the same condition. The next time I was at McCloud, the area where she had been was no longer accessible. I've wondered what happened to her, now I know.
The Sierra Railroad would like to have their own operating steam locomotive to pull their dinner trains, but unfortunately lack the funding and paid professionals to do so. They already have former Southern Pacific 0-6-0 #1227 that they had been working on, but all work seems to have stopped. Its safe to say they are no longer seriously considering rebuilding the locomotive, or purchasing another one. Railtown 1897 would be more than pleased to have any of the Sierra engines (besides 38, because she is too large and in too rough of shape) but they lack a major coordinated effort to raise funds to make a serious offer on any of them. I would love to see the 18 come home to Jamestown and run again, but I'd be lucky to see that happen during my lifetime.
Saratoga and north creek branch railroad upstate new york could always use a couple steam locomotives and that Teddy Roosevelt receved the letter that he was sworn in as president 1901. true story
Where I live there was probably a hundred steam engines parked close together and all of them were cut up for scrap to feed Stelco's furnaces. Some were less than ten years old. I was a boy then and did not know how to save them. Lucky you are far from a steel mill.
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Engines built in late 1940's were scrapped in late 1950's even though they were built to last eighty years. One new engine was set aside as a reserve for the old engine in service and had no revenue miles and was scrapped. All victims of the open hearth.
Never knew that these existed in Oregon still I hope that they are never scrapped they are a lost relic of a simpler time they will hopefully be restored and even one day put to use again I won’t be surprised if steam engines make a comeback one day
Does Fred sell parts to rail preservation groups for repairing their display or operating steamers? I imagine handling asbestos used in steamers is a major concern.
There are a handful of engines sitting derelict next the the Tillamook Air Museum's Hanger in Tillamook Oregon. Unfortunately the coastal weather has been hard on them.
I'm unfortunately not sure what they were, but i think so, it was well over 5 years ago, but whatever they were they were in far worse condition than these locomotives. Makes me sad to see them sitting there rusting.
You know on the Sierra Railroad before the branch off to Pickering Lumber, the Army buried tons of WW II trucks, jeeps and tanks on Forest Service land.
Hwy 39 in Oregon( north of the town of Tulelake CA.) in Merrill which is W. Front St. Turn north on Main St. three blocks to 4 St. the siding is there .
Thanks for posting. Do you have a song list? I really the first two, especially. I love seeing history like this, if it isn't being restored or operational.
3:45 wait is Oregon Pacific & eastern RR no. 1 is still there in 2023? because I wanted take that from Merrill Oregon to lake Oswego oregon. please reply me..
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany you are right its still there in 2023 because im turning 15 in 2020 but in 2023 i turned 18 and becoming a train engineer and pick up a rusty engine to repair.
I kinda want to see what inside some of cabs. Kinda Carius what they look like. Yes it would be nice to have few millions to fix up at least one or two of them just to bring them back and running again
Sad seeing Pickering # 8 like that. I saw Steamtown's Meadow River # 1 when I was there 16 years ago. It is in worse shape than #8 and even it could be restored with enough money. But that is the problem with almost all RR museums, lack of funds or management who runs off those that have them. And I'm sure Cass knows about #8. ;-) They lost Bemis Lumber Co 3256 to the NC Transportation Museum when they couldn't get the overload permits they needed to get it out of NC many years ago.
They said I could come up and work on it any time I wanted. But it likely will never be restored there. It isn't a PA loco and really would be out of place there except for display or switching duties. Not sure I can still fit in my green Steamtown overalls but I can still fit the NPS/Steamtown volunteer hat.;-)
All of this equipment was recently sold! Or donated to a museum in Oregon. 4 locomotives are supposed to be moving off this property to the tourist railway soon. The rest is legitimately for sale!!!
You'd have to be mentally insane to scrap a historic steam engine in the present day. There are so many parks and or museums that would happily take one for display no matter the condition. Also the locomotives in this yard are being restored though, right?
Amazing and sad at the same time. Do you know if any of these are for sale? Because it would be amazing to buy one and at least cosmetically restore it!
@@AshAndSteam you just call the Oregon Coast scenic railroad and speak with them! Last I heard engines are running from 40 to 60K a pop pending conditions
Squirt some oil into the joints once in a while and eventually, someone will realize that these things are no longer being produced, and have value! Help preserve our history!
I love this. Wonderful that these old beauties are still in existence. Many MANY old steam engines and their components were scrapped for metal in WWII and are sadly gone forever. These old trains are a rare link to our past.
WW2 actually delayed a lot of steam locos from being scrapped. There was a huge demand on railroads during that time period and not nearly enough diesel power to go around.
@@Waty8413 that was for the bigger stuff that ended up getting scrapped after the war, scrap drives took numerous pre 1900 era locomotives that are irreplaceable at this point
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany "Irreplaceable". I always hate that word when it comes to machinery, because if enough people cared, building a new one would be far from impossible. If you can get the design drawings of the locomotives, with the right funding and facilities it wouldn't be very hard at all to make new ones.
Yeah... No. WW2 extended the steam era. Diesel production all but stopped during the war.
There is one group doing that @@Dulaman107
Imagine if these old titans of the railways could talk. Amazing stories would be told!!!
Yes
that's called 1984
@@riesenflugzeug the year ttte first aired on tv
Try meeting the owner,
The engines may not be able to tell story's but Fred sure can!!
Would free be willing to give up the locos for restoration
Thank you Fred for saving these Locos.And a new generation may restore them to running condition one day.Rather than dragging them out to sit dead in a museum.They're not going to rot in Oregon nice and dry.
That is NO junk yard-- THAT IS A GOLD MINE! SAVE SIERRA #18!
the rumor has it that 18 and all the other native sierra locomotives are willed to railtown1897
Restore them all. We will need them after a big solar flare and everything goes black.
Yes restore them then the steam population will rise!
@@davidblakeman7165 you do know that if things are turned off off during a flare, they will likely run like normal after words..
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany as in they get hold of them after the previous owners death?
I worked on the vernonia Southpark and sunset r.r. when I was 10 yrs old 55 years ago in Banks Oregon
Neat old boneyard. Thanks for taking us along. If only they could talk.
the story they would tell.....
thanks!
Shade Tree - see my comment above :)
My god, I've lived in Oregon my whole life and I've never heard of this. Planning a trip already.
No dont I live here there is nothing to see
You will need permission from this sight owner
@The Model Trainer yes but it’s on most likely someone’s land.. it would technically be trespassing.. just because it’s abandoned doesn’t mean the land it’s on is not owned by an individual
@The Model Trainer storage
@The Model Trainer I don’t want to get into a fight with you, good fellow.. just forget I said anything please
I love the fact that one of them has frickin' *shutters* on the windows of the steam engine. That just makes it seem more dead...
I have been involved with restorations in the past. The cost or bring a steamer up to specification and certifying it to operate can be in the millions depending on the condition of the locomotive to start with. Getting a steamer from the scrappers is relatively cheap compared to the cost of an "operating restoration". Many people have embarked on restoring a locomotive to operating condition, only stalling our do to lack of funding. One has to do a in depth inspection of the locomotive to see if it is really restore-able...let me back up, ANYTHING is restore-able if you have the funds...There are projects going on now where 50% of the locomotive has new custom components that has to be specially built because the originals are beyond repair. Most cases boilers are a "do-over", fireboxes are generally need to be rebuilt, drive cylinders are usually seized so that is another do over...the old bearing journals on the tenders are generally not acceptable on most lines so they need to be replaced with roller bearing, asbestos removal everywhere, brake systems have to be updated to be "road legal", and I could go on. If a museum has their own trackage then they can skimp on replacing the tender trucks and even upgrading brakes but my point in everything has to be considered, and it just ain't cheap...even with volunteers doing the heavy lifting.
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THEN, you have to maintain it and get it re-certified. Keep in mind, the move from steam to diesel was every bit about the cost of maintaining a steam locomotive. They were expensive to keep on the rails and diesel locomotives were much easier to maintain and parts were interchangeable so repair and maintenance was also less of an issue.
So you want to do this anyway you say...funding is the biggest issue. You have to draw in investors. You see all these locomotives and parts everywhere so you have to ask yourself, what locomotive in this yard is going to interest investors to pay to restore it. Is there something special or unique about any one of these. Is there any history beyond "just being old".
Someone said on this comment section "I have $120,000 to spend right now"...well that will allow you to buy it, have a rigging company pick it up and truck it to...where?...if you want to transport via rail you still need a rigger to put it on a special flat car and have it secured because no mainline railroad is going to let you put that on their rails...you need to have someone look at it to see what needs to happen and you are likely looking at asbestos abatement. If you are lucky you may have enough money and available parts to do a cosmetic restoration when it is all done....but I dont see any of these locomotives that are in a condition and or have enough parts still remaining to make the candidates for restoration without substantial funds. I can tell you there are plenty of museums that have loco in far better condition that would be candidates if you can talk them out of it.
NC Steamfan, most of these ones won't take much to get them certified, they were running recently at museums and could be broght back with minimal work
RV'n you are correct. They will cost too much to restore and when finished will burn fossil fuel. This is being phased out due to global warming climate change.
They are a safety hazard and an eyesore that need to be cut for scrap asap.
That dry desert air really does a great job of preserving those machines for future restoration. A large portion of restored steam locos here in the UK sat in a scrap yard on the south cost of Wales so as you can imagine they rusted up pretty bad.
bary scrapyard right? those things were a rotten mess from what I have seen
PopsProductions124 Yeah, that's the one. You should see them now though, a stunning bunch of survivors
My engine was sat in a playground for 50 years www.gofundme.com/the-Cherwell-project
oh wow thats cool, how far have you gotten on it now?
PopsProductions124 were in the beginning stages of restoration but desperately need funds!
Wow, I feel like a little boy at the candy store, I've love trains and still do, I don't own these real ones, but I've got ho scale trains about 80 different frieght cars and 17 locomotives, mostly all diesels and couple steam that do smoke, I like the self tender, with them white wall rings on its wheels, great job, thanks for sharing 👍
These locomotives are a safety hazard and need cutting for scrap asap.
I fully agree
They’re outdated for our modern society and would be better off used as tin cans
Thank you for showing the current condition of these engines.
It's a shame that their owner (Fred Kepner) hasn't thought of selling them off to more deserving homes. He bought them ages ago and hasn't done a thing with them since - his reluctance to sell them is only going to make them more vulnerable to scrap merchants.
#SaveTheKepnerSteamers
or even worse
they will end up in PARKS!
thanks for watching!
yes but so long as they remain around, there is always the hope that some will come back to life, but time takes it toll, but all hope is not lost, so long as they are not cut up, new metal can be patched in with many things and boilers can be rebuilt, I am sure if you sent one to strausburg they could have one up and running in short order, if you have all the parts, but if they start to just haphazardly cut them up then that is a real problem, but so long as they are there there is that slight chance they will see new life, as for cosmetic restoration well there are lots of places that could use a locomotive they have all kinds of rail cars but could use an engine, and when funds com available once the metal is stablized it can be evaluated for rebuilding, just like the fort wayne railroad will problably do for that walbash loco we have, its one of only 2 walbash rr steamers that survived the torch for now, out of all of them there are only 2 and we are slowly working on getting the thing freed up and derusted, but we always have many irons in the fire to take care of with 765 and current operations.
I have actually never heard of these engines until a few days ago
Hey could at least sell the Sierra engines back to the Sierra railway. If the Brits can build tornado the Sierra railway can rebuild 36 and 38.
Christopher Kovacs also i believe Hank Griffiths recorded a few of these engines in action before they were sent here.
It saddens my heart to see all those beautiful old steam engine just sitting there rotting away, it is almost a fait worth than being sent to the scrappers torch.
yeah & I even wanna save the Sierra RR 4-4-0 at Old Tuscon Studios & get it back in operation grrrr!
that's Virginia and Truckee #11 "Reno" she is in the process of being purchased by a foundation but I don't know if they will pull it off
yeah? I hope they do!
& convert it back to running on coal!
sounds fun, I dont know of any way to contact him but his name is fred kepner
I live near merrill and it's actually a nearly perfect area to store old equipment as this region gets less than 13'' of precipitation a year. So very little rust.
Like the old guy down the road that refuses to sell his old cars sitting in a field. By the time he dies,they are too far gone to restore. I had to see that happen. His kids were mad also. They got nothing but scrap value because he didn't do anything to preserve them. Same thing going on with those trains. Sad.
that could possibly happen, but fred does his best to keep these engines preserved by storing them in a very dry climate and covering up the locomotives smoke stacks
they should be safe for a good while
He's more than likely saved them from being scrapped in the first place. There isn't droves of people looking to spend the time and money to restore these things.
Holy smokes! So much history and stories and miles just sitting there. Interesting video. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks
Seeing Lihue #4 (Ex Mcbryde Sugar #1 is what she actually is) still in sort of one piece, gives me some hope and some faith in humanity. She was renumbered to 304 by Gene Autry for use on his film railroad. Hoping one day, she'll find her way back to Kauai.
It would be great to get her back
Locomotive number 100 and the Sierra engine number 36 were once owned and operated by the White Mountain Scenic Railway in McNary Arizona. Both had been bought and used for short haul excursion service around 1962. They both ran until 1974 when the Railway shut down and everything was sold off. The remaining part of the railroad is now the Apache Railway and only operates a couple times a week at most. I rode the train back in 1971 with my family, I was 6, what a really neat experience, I will never forget.
wow, neat
do they still run steam on the Apache railroad?
PopsProductions124. Unfortunately no, and ever since the pulp mill shut down there is only occational traffic at best.
oh
don't they have a 3 truck heisler there?
PopsProductions124 No heislers, but they do have some classic Alco diesels.
cool!
I ultimately have the sudden urge to work my butt off and get one of them suckers.
Unfortunately, most are not for sale, or they would have gone their separate ways years ago. People have talked about the Sierra engines finding better homes for years, but a serious offer on any of them has yet to be made and accepted.
Di it man this is you're chance
Chris, thanks for the extinct steam locomotive video. I agree with you on the Lima built AC-9's man ! What perhaps is even more regrettable is that not one video exists of the 80 odd 2-6-6-6 Alleghenies in action from the 40's- 50's built by Lima for the C&O and the Virginian RR's ! I' d give my eye teeth to see one of those monsters, which were even more powerful than the UP Big Boys, in action on a coal drag in the mountains of WVA ! Mike S.
A few months ago all the equipment was sold to different railroad museums
Any specific details?
@sleeplessengineer1450 the Oregon coast scenic RR acquired the collection.
That SP Vanderbilt tender caught my eye. I model the SP in HO Scale and I have a model of one of SP's MT-4 Mountain steam locomotives. It has a Vanderbilt tender, just like the real ones.
With that being said, Sierra #18 looks to be in the best condition of them all. All the others would take millions of dollars to restore. Even the GN, though mostly intact, would still cost a small fortune to restore. Sadly, BNSF does not have a steam locomotive preservation program.
The vandy tender is off the GN consolidation, the Sierra is missing its tender and all its hardware as well as being almost completely warn out. There's a small prarie that Apperently is a good way through a restoration but needs chassis work.
Yes yes there is Great Northern Vanderbilt tender but there's also the Southern Pacific one as well. Did not say Southern Pacific lines and set Southern Pacific Railroad and the Great Northern Vanderbilt Ender is a little bit in front of that SP tender
BNSF has allowed operations of steam locomotives such as SP&S 700, SP 4449, ATSF 3751, MILW 261, SLSF 1522, and soon ATSF 2926.
This video never gets old. It would be cool if they could save that tank engine from the thumbnail.
It has been saved.
Santa Maria Valley RR locomotive is far away from her home tracks on the central coast of California.
Ever since i was little i told my parents i was saving up for a car, when really i was saving up for a narrow gauge steam engine or standard gauge steam engine to run on some track near my house in nc . i hope i can find an engine for a reasonable price...
I am so happy that there is a no.1 tank engine left in Oregon.
I always heard that Sierra #38 was scrapped but then I heard it was simply dismantled. It would take a lot of work and money to get it to run again but its possible. A classic compound shortline Mallet that was later used for logging.
-Stan Fischer
that thing is really warn out but it is possible for restoration
She was built as a logging engine. She was Weyerhauser's #4 on their line out of Klamath Falls.
I remember having debates about these locomotives 20 years ago. There was a lot of interest in several North West railway museums and quite a few private collectors. I know it was next to impossible to get photographs of these locomotives as people were never allowed on the property. Many people even wondered if they still existed. I think the only people that ever made any headway with Fred is the Mount Rainier railroad. I noticed one of their tenders on the property so I imagine they made a trade along with some cash for something.
I heard railtown1897 wanted something from him and collected LOTS of money but he wouldn't budge
it was probably like pulling teeth for Fred to get rid of something
Traveling Tom what MRSR equipment do you see I can't find anything
I am not 100% sure but the tender at 2:09 sure looks like it came from the Mount Rainier scenic railroad. I know they had quite a bit of rolling stock rusting away including tenders, on a spur about 1/4 mile from the Mineral shop in the late 90's. The number 5 has a identical tender. Maybe they had a surplus tender for the #5 that they traded for something. Logging companies often kept tenders for fire fighting long after steam was dropped.
I don't know where people keep getting these rumors from. The tender you refer to belongs to Santa Maria Valley Railroad #100.
While volunteering for a rail road museum in Minnesota, I once asked a knowledgeable person how many steam engines are left in the US. He said, more than anyone who wants to spend the money on them to bring back to working condition. All of you who are unhappy about these engines "rotting away", lets see the money. LOL
well said
but the thing of it is, most of the locomotives out there are done warn out, these are in good close to operable condition
if there was an option, these would be saved in a heart beet
+PopsProductions124 so you have no adress I have a 120k$ yes that it right and I like old things old toys engines don't scrap them U could make 1 out of them and I'm not some guy just want the adress I aculy like them have been love old stuff I hate new and I like to build bring life back to them don't tell me U wouldent want to live forever I would like to know the adress but I'm sure your no going to ...ADRESSS IF U CAN
And here's a something nobody is talking about, steam powered equipment has to be certified every few years by a boiler inspector which are few and far between nowadays. Plus no matter how much your steam engine is used the tubes inside the boiler has to get replaced every 5 years i believe it is and the type of steam pipes aren't manufactured in the United States anymore so your only option is to import them from Germany and there's a minimum amount that you have to order which is way more than one locomotive or any steam boiler needs so it's a very expensive toy train which has very little chance of making back the money you invest in it.
German pipes would be Metric?
Kraig Cochran + actually you are only half right, people with class 1 boilers licences are normally employed in industrial,commercial or power plant's today and are not far and few between as one would think. the point of the inspection is to inspect integrity of the boiler, the flue pipes inside the boiler carry the heat via draft thru length of the boiler to heat water, and (depending on the type of boiler) the flue pipes are either in full contact with the water, (immersion type) or water is totally Isolated from draught box (radiant type ) makes the difference in efficiency and maintenance requirements. also water quality plays a roll, back in the hey day of steam water was generally collected but not much was paid mind to quality i.e. dissolved mineral content, dirt, etc. and these factors played a huge role in boiler longevity. today most industrial/restored historical boilers draw water of a filtered and chemically softened water source via filters, and catalyzing inline water softeners ( same as residential equipment in operation) just bigger. And to address the pipe availability for flues these can be had from U.S. distributors.
excellent video I like it when there are so many steam locomotives. There's a Shay and articulated locomotive. a lot of consolidation some switcher engines little bit everything. Is that like a scrap yard or some sort of junk yard. I like to know who the owner of that is that is pretty neat. I've said this a lot of steam engines are out there like that the old Woods here in Ohio there's a lot of old locomotives out there in the middle of nowhere. but excellent video well done my friend keep up the good work I like your model trains to your age shows everything you got your american flyer everything
thanks!
all this equipment is owned by a man named Fred Kepner.
+Chris Henningsen. i was just looking at the pile of rusty rails over at this video and wonder. i heard a story about the white pass and youkon railroad and with every visitor not only keep the railroad running but also goes to mantence and including addition on there trackage. so who knows. the white pass could reach the north pole. the first 3 foot gauge railroad to reach santa claus for those who still believe. and white pass is alway looking for new editions on there route with any sorce for railroad tracks. just thinking about it and with today. here is food for thought just because locomotives. have lost there purpose does it mean they should remain that way. i guess I'm just an old soul. and pass life railroad engineer a couple years ago
When I was 8 years old I rode on a train in mcnary az the engine pulling us was no36 and 100 was sitting next to it we then they both were on the White Mountain Railroad. It was truly one of the best day of my life. We went on the trip and stopped and had a steak and potatoes lunch then back on the trip through scenery that makes you love the outdoors. Miss it very much
Wow, if I'm not mistaken some are in good shape.
They should be restored and displayed on the museum
Easier said than done but that would be great
GN 1246 is kind of a rare one, not too much GN stuff still around considering the size of the road.
Reading 2100's auxiliary tender is ex-Great Northern. It looks very similar to this one.
Thank you for the wonderful video ... and I too loved the appropriate soundtrack!
Why doesn't someone purchase some of these engines and try to preserve them? IRM hasn't had a steam locomotive added to their collection in years. Heck, it doesn't have to run, it'd just be a nice display piece! You know, clean it up, put some paint on it, make it look pretty! And if at some point the bill fits, restore it to operating condition!
he is actually trying to work deals on a couple of these things
multaple museums including sierra railroad are trying to aquire certain locos
IRM has tons of locomotives including ines with wheel arrangements that there are no operational locomotives of like 0-8-0, I do think there is a FEC 0-8-0 that is being restored to operate.
Raymond Leggs, Was being restored. The person who owned it died several years ago and the place it was stored forced its removal. There is a youtube video of it making the trip. It is on a friendly railroad so there still is a chance for it. That railroad just bought back one of it's former locos and is going to restore it back to operable condition.
where can I get more info?
I cant seem to find anything
Alot of history in one spot. If these old steamers or trucks could talk. Nice video
the storys they would tell
At 3:09, that's a track cart sitting on another one behind the Speeder. My buddy had one he bought from a railroader. I'd love to rebuild that Speeder too! Some priceless pieces here waiting, hopefully, to someday be rebuilt and run.
If everything goes to plan most of this stuff will see the lime light again eventually, all in due time
So... not actually abandoned.
I met Mr. Fleck and seen him in concert many times. He's a BEAST!
That's just his music, the owner of the steam engines is a different story
thank you for the video documentation. still its sad to see them being neglected like this.
Excellent video... Loved the footage and enjoyed your music selection ;-). This video needs more views... I think you need to include "abandoned" in the title... seems to be popular click-bait word these days, but in your case it's genuine.
thanks
I actually thought about putting abandoned on it but its not actually abandoned
its owned by a man named Fred kepner
Ah! Does he have any plans for this equipment?
not at the moment
he has been slowly restoring one of them but I doubt it will be finished
ТHIS ТООL FОR FRЕЕЕE SТEAМ МОNЕY IS ТТТТHЕ BЕSТ ОN ТHЕ ЕNТIRЕ WЕBSTОRЕ!!!>> stеаm еngine junk уаrd Mеrrill Оrеgоn
Very very cool. I used to know a bit about this yard of forgotten iron, but the knowledge seems to have escaped me now. An awesome video indeed. Where did you find the audio for this video? Some pretty good tunes.
the first song is called cold frosty morning by Bela Fleck
the 2nd one is called lonely coyote by the wayfarers
the 3rd one is from this video, ua-cam.com/video/RhCjYNKXNvk/v-deo.html
I wonder how many other places around the U.S. have private steam junk yards, like this?
2
The Shasta Cascade railroad society in Redding would love to have these for their museum lot.
Russell Hunt i think i went there one time and yeah they have tons of engines preserved
I hope all of these rusty steam engines are saved, overhauled, and restored. They are never worth being scrapped.
dont worry, its a very low chance of that happening, but its also a low chance of them running any time soon D:
I know that over the years, people has commented that they have tried to get some of those engines from Fred and the price they were quoted, was more than the price you can get a working steam locomotive for. Yreka found out about Fred still claiming he owned them and wanted to sell then when his lawyer put an ad out, offering them for sale. I contacted YWRR and they said the YWRR owned them and no-way was anyone going to remove them from their property. After YWRR went bankrupt, the cars were sold and scrapped; without offering them for sale to museums, tourist railroads or collectors. There are a couple cars left (only one on trucks); and the New Milwaukee Road Railway Co. wants them and has a GoFundMe donation account. www.gofundme.com/reopening-milwaukee-road-line-in-sd
Awesome vid Jake! the music is gr9 too!
thanks!
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany Why was a rusty train covered with wasps?
This tugs at my heart. . Thank you for sharing.
They aren't worth cutting up for steel and they are in a reasonably safe location. Anyone with serious money should hire an investigator to contact the owner, but don't bother if all you have is dreams. Cash talks and the hull cost will be a lot less than replacing boilers and machine shop work to return "locomotive shaped objects" to runners. Anyone with less money should consider donating to existing operations elsewhere. Everyone wants to see live steam in action but far fewer will help make it happen.
From what I've heard in the past, Fred has offered units before; but at an extremely out in space price. Then there's the issue of the passenger cars that went to the YWRR. The railroad claimed they bought them and Kepner said he only loaned the cars to them (that's what I've been told). Our hope is that when he finally passes on, someone will want to sell them at a reasonalbe price; and that they are worth restoring. I've seen a couple of them when they sat at the Cottage Grove Depot along I-5. That was in early 2000's and in bad condition then.
There is one YWRR passenger car left and one or two baggage cars (the one for sure is on wheels). Beings that i most likely will have a need for them on an abandoned line that I am a in talks to get, I began talks with the current management of the YWRR about them and he said to offer a price. I'm going down in two weeks to Redding; and will stop and inspect them while in-route either too or from Redding. Anyone know their condition; and also their value. Only the passenger car has trucks and is on live rail. The baggage car is on trucks but on isolated rail and another car (if it's not the Amtrak unit, that's not for sale), is not on' trucks, but sits on blocks. Give me an idea as to their condition and worth. I really am going to work to get them. Need some YWRR units saved and operated in tourist or museum service.
they are in poor shape
this past summer we went up there and saw what was left of the place
the cars are mussing interior parts and have been vandalized including broken windows
but there not to far gone!
easily repaired
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany Those cars at YWRR have been sold to the Oregon Coast Scenic Railroad (OCSR).
Just found this video again. Glen Alden #28 once ran at Pine Creek RR when they were located north of Freehold NJ on Route 9. It had some quirks that Pine Creek couldn't afford to repair back then, so they passed on the deal to take it.
Satellite shows something else on the rails between the feed store and the highway.
It looks like a crane and boom car, and a passenger car. Did you get shots of it,or was it not there when you visited?
I did film them but I never got around to putting them in this video
I've seen it. It's a 150-ton steam crane that belonged to Southern Pacific in Klamath Falls. They were going to scrap it until Fred talked them out of it. They moved it down there for him and there it sits, with everything else. Sierra 38 was built new for Weyerhauser's Klamath Falls operation as their #4, so it's cool she's back "home". It breaks my heart to see her just rusting away. I've spoken with Fred a half-dozen times about getting grant money and some volunteers to help get at least one of those engines going again, but it's like talking to a brick wall. I'm afraid that when he passes they'll just get cut up. What a shame.
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how did you get in touch with Fred to get permission to look at the engines??
@@stevenmitchell5435 the only way to contact him is to drive out there and talk to him as he doesn't have a phone or a computer
I have a feeling a couple historical societies would want to restore one or two of the locomotives there for static or operational use. Cool video.
Awesome video. Saw 2-6-2 105's tender but didn't see it in your video unless I missed it?
or just the tender is still standing.if so I think the 105 met every steamers nightmare.
105 and her tender are there. The tender is the one that says VSP&SSR or something like that on the tender, I can't remember the road off hand. It was a tourist line that ran in the 60s and 70s somewhere up in Oregon. The whole line has since been ripped up. I've got a United brass model of the same engine :)
I had no idea such things still existed! National treasure!
Jeez I didn't realize we had all these here
All restorable, just need finance and cooperation from the owner. I have seen locos in New Zealand in far worse condition pulled from riverbeds totally restored.
The Uk was late in using diesels and the mad rush to convert meant many good steam engines were parked for scrap. The chap who bought a lot of them had plenty of other work and kept them. Most are now either running again or being renovated. The UK is only a small island and steam trains are quite common, even on main lines. There is a brand new one - the A1 class Tornado - and there is going to be more. In April 2017 it was the first steam engine to clock 100 mph in over 50 years. They are all owned by clubs and Trusts. Are we mad ? Of course, what other way to live is there.
we need to save these engines there is a lot of locomotives. Pickering lumber #8 should go to the mt rainer scenic if it was opening and could be a running mate to Pickering lumber #11. A good place for 38, 18, 36 would be at rail town 1897.
Great choice of music with your video. Enjoyed it
Located just south of Merrill, Oregon. I checked these out when I lived nearby in 2007.
What could actually make sense would be to take the biggest most powerful steam locomotives ever built, the NY Central Niagara's, and build new ones fed with oil, not high polluting coal, and make use of all the modern alloys, and technologies to make them as powerful as any modern diesel electric locomotive. That way they could actually make money for their owners. It'd be a worthy challenge if nothing else with a plausible goal.
It's good to see OP&E 1 still around
The last time I saw Sierra #38, May '94, she was at McCloud, CA in about the same condition. The next time I was at McCloud, the area where she had been was no longer accessible. I've wondered what happened to her, now I know.
did she ever run at McCloud?
I can't say for sure, but I don't think so.
I think sierra railroad wants to purchase this locomotive
and the 18
The Sierra Railroad would like to have their own operating steam locomotive to pull their dinner trains, but unfortunately lack the funding and paid professionals to do so. They already have former Southern Pacific 0-6-0 #1227 that they had been working on, but all work seems to have stopped. Its safe to say they are no longer seriously considering rebuilding the locomotive, or purchasing another one. Railtown 1897 would be more than pleased to have any of the Sierra engines (besides 38, because she is too large and in too rough of shape) but they lack a major coordinated effort to raise funds to make a serious offer on any of them. I would love to see the 18 come home to Jamestown and run again, but I'd be lucky to see that happen during my lifetime.
If these locomotives could tell their stories, I’d listen all day.
Saratoga and north creek branch railroad upstate new york could always use a couple steam locomotives and that Teddy Roosevelt receved the letter that he was sworn in as president 1901. true story
Where I live there was probably a hundred steam engines parked close together and all of them were cut up for scrap to feed Stelco's furnaces. Some were less than ten years old. I was a boy then and did not know how to save them. Lucky you are far from a steel mill.
Where on gods green earth was this!?!?
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Engines built in late 1940's were scrapped in late 1950's even though they were built to last eighty years. One new engine was set aside as a reserve for the old engine in service and had no revenue miles and was scrapped. All victims of the open hearth.
Like I was telling ya, there was a day when a dump had quality. And by God, the trash in this country has gone to hell.
Never knew that these existed in Oregon still I hope that they are never scrapped they are a lost relic of a simpler time they will hopefully be restored and even one day put to use again I won’t be surprised if steam engines make a comeback one day
There's enough parts to build a few running engines or few static engines. A few hybrid classes are in order.
I believe Sierra Railway 18 was used in Duel In The Sun.
Love this video and the music ☺
I hope some museums can acquire these engines and tenders.
Even the best locomotive he has would cost a million dollars to restore. Sad to see them rot.
Nice music! Adds a great touch to the story.
Does Fred sell parts to rail preservation groups for repairing their display or operating steamers? I imagine handling asbestos used in steamers is a major concern.
No
He hardly sells locomotives all together
These need to be restored and put in museums
They have served their purpose and are now retired, imagine that
Cause of Big Oil diesel killed AMERICA
It is criminal to allow these artifacts to be in this condition. You cannot buy it but I am not going to do anything with it.
It is called - The DOg in the manger. I can't ( won't) do anything with it and you can't have it either.
robert shaw: thanks: took me awhile to figure it out.
the great northern engine was on display in Seattle,Wa woodland park zoo but the city sold it
No furrys allowed
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@@DeathValleyLumberCompany and it took 2 years to say that
@@kakinokitsune4487 and it took 23 hours for your response
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany that's an bit rude
I rode inside a steam locomotive once. It was the most thrilling experience of my life, like riding in a bomb.
I've operated a locomotive 🤠, I have no words to describe my enjoyment of it
I was standing behind one of two engineers in this Shayen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosemite_Mountain_Sugar_Pine_Railroad
There are a handful of engines sitting derelict next the the Tillamook Air Museum's Hanger in Tillamook Oregon. Unfortunately the coastal weather has been hard on them.
2 truck Heisler right?
I'm unfortunately not sure what they were, but i think so, it was well over 5 years ago, but whatever they were they were in far worse condition than these locomotives. Makes me sad to see them sitting there rusting.
The Heisler's inside the hanger
they have a heisler?
Arizona Eastern Railway #3.
Do you have any plans to get any of them running again that is a nice group of steamies
Its all currently for sale
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany I'm glad of that wouldn't want that kind of history scrapped thanks for the reply and happy New Year
You know on the Sierra Railroad before the branch off to Pickering Lumber, the Army buried tons of WW II trucks, jeeps and tanks on Forest Service land.
do you know an exact location? I would love to somday check this out
Hwy 39 in Oregon( north of the town of Tulelake CA.) in Merrill which is W. Front St. Turn north on Main St. three blocks to 4 St. the siding is there .
Is this the collection of locomotives that was sold last year to the Oregon Coast Scenic Railroad?
correct
Thanks for posting. Do you have a song list? I really the first two, especially.
I love seeing history like this, if it isn't being restored or operational.
the first song is called frosty morning by bella fleck, the second one is lonely coyote by the wayfarers
Are the stationary engines for sale need one to run a generater
if you talk to him the probably could be
How do I get ahold of him
your going to have to go speak to hium in person unless you can find a phone number
what size engine are you looking for and whats your price range, I know where a huge hoard of them are
I’m looking into running between 60 and a 100 kw generater cheaper is better even if I have to work on it a bit
3:45 wait is Oregon Pacific & eastern RR no. 1 is still there in 2023? because I wanted take that from Merrill Oregon to lake Oswego oregon. please reply me..
Yes its still there, what's in Oswego?
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany Merrill
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany you are right its still there in 2023 because im turning 15 in 2020 but in 2023 i turned 18 and becoming a train engineer and pick up a rusty engine to repair.
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany oops i mean "Lake Oswego" that i live in.
@@Ivan-Nevski-Kalashnikov I have no information of any sort of RR that would allow this, this engine needs a full restoration.....
I kinda want to see what inside some of cabs. Kinda Carius what they look like. Yes it would be nice to have few millions to fix up at least one or two of them just to bring them back and running again
How can they let them rot like that???
1:48 Oh no... please tell me that's not the old Deer Creek Scenic Railroad 618 tinder? Is the engine still alright?
Where in Oregon is this exactly. I don't know of you still answer questions but I'd love to go here.
i remember seeing # 38 WHOLE at railtown, that was a long long time ago.also remember 18 there too. neat on the pickering equipent.
Sad seeing Pickering # 8 like that. I saw Steamtown's Meadow River # 1 when I was there 16 years ago. It is in worse shape than #8 and even it could be restored with enough money. But that is the problem with almost all RR museums, lack of funds or management who runs off those that have them. And I'm sure Cass knows about #8. ;-) They lost Bemis Lumber Co 3256 to the NC Transportation Museum when they couldn't get the overload permits they needed to get it out of NC many years ago.
it would be neat to see it go out to cass
who knows where she will end up.
any plans to restore meadow river #1?
They said I could come up and work on it any time I wanted. But it likely will never be restored there. It isn't a PA loco and really would be out of place there except for display or switching duties.
Not sure I can still fit in my green Steamtown overalls but I can still fit the NPS/Steamtown volunteer hat.;-)
lol
it should come out here to OERM
do you think it would be available?
Its all about the money. That #8 shay is it a Lima product or a Willamette product?
That great northern beauty needs to be steaming again. It is calling my name.
All of this equipment was recently sold! Or donated to a museum in Oregon. 4 locomotives are supposed to be moving off this property to the tourist railway soon. The rest is legitimately for sale!!!
Yes Marten Hansen is the broker for the sale, I’m looking at a piece myself
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany wow! Good luck with that. Are you at liberty to discuss which one?
@@timothyboles6457 a bunch of parts for the 4-4-0 I’m restoring
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany way cool. Good luck!!!
You'd have to be mentally insane to scrap a historic steam engine in the present day. There are so many parks and or museums that would happily take one for display no matter the condition. Also the locomotives in this yard are being restored though, right?
Amazing and sad at the same time. Do you know if any of these are for sale? Because it would be amazing to buy one and at least cosmetically restore it!
Yes
The collection was purchased by the Oregon coast scenic railroad and is currently all for sale!
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany Cool! Do you know if when buy one whether it's an online purchase or if it is in person?
@@AshAndSteam you just call the Oregon Coast scenic railroad and speak with them!
Last I heard engines are running from 40 to 60K a pop pending conditions
@@DeathValleyLumberCompany Interesting, thanks for the information!
We never had these trains in the Philippines, but we have only urban trains.
Can someone tell me the names of the music?
frosty morning by bella fleck, lonely cycote by the wayfares, and the last one I riped off from a video called hard times on the railroad
Squirt some oil into the joints once in a while and eventually, someone will realize that these things are no longer being produced, and have value! Help preserve our history!
Considering everything is sitting out in open, it is not too rusty, must be quite dry climate.