Soy un mexicano que reconoce lo bueno, en este caso, reconozco al Gran Inca Edwin Valero...enorme, simplemente espectacular y aunque hayan varios "conocedores" mexicanos comentando aquí no se que tonterías, la verdad es que Edwin #1
@@tannergoodman945Haha, not true. Headgear is used to increase the safety of a boxer by reducing the force of a punch and preventing concussions, head trauma, or even cuts from head clashes etc. It does not add mass to the punch!! Trust me - Urbano Antillon would of been knocked out cold or on stanky legs if he didn't have a head guard on.
Tenía una precisión de pegada veloz potente y certera como piedra me pregunto si no tuviera el protector de rostro yo creo que lo manda un largo tiempo al hospital que velocidad la del difunto
His power was overrated Demario was a big 140 guy broner got him out of there very easy. Valero was good if he statues at 135 any bring at 140-146 he gets beat by the top guys
jaja! lo que no sabia era que valero era el sparring de antillon!! me imagino la cara de la esquina de antillon! mi hermano me lo vas a malograr pa' la pelea, estas loco???
Ese era Ubaldo Antillon , retador numero uno al titulo welter para ese momento , le buscaron de Sparring a Valero quien aun era un super pluma desconocido que hacia peleas apenas de 6 round para ese entonces , pero aun asi siendo un novato de menor peso le dio una putiza al retador numero uno del peso welter
Que tragedia que se aiga muerto este muchacho. Y todo por la pinche droga!!!!! Odio las drogas!!! Destruyen vidas y talento. Nos robo peleas que jamás se olvidarían. Este si entraba a rajar
Tenia un estilo tipoo brus lee Golpes fuertes y tan rapidos que paresiera que no tiene tecnica peri si lo pasan a camara lenta se ve la buena tecnica y la elegancia del peleador
@dlc85007 I understand your point, but what saved Mosley from an obvious KO was the fact he opted for a "counterpunching" style with his right hand, the very same money punch that Marquez used against Pac in both fights. Mosley ran too, but since he changed his style may be for the very first time of his career, it surprised the Pacquiao clan and he had to be very aware of Mosley's power and unexpected style for this fight. Pac was caught by that punch a couple of times, but Mosley not active...
Valero showed with the DeMarco fight that he could box and had slick defense to use against the elites, and his work rate was something never seen at 135 in a long ass time. When it came time to throw Valero to the wolfs of the division they were going to be in for a rude awaking. Valero would have been a high risk low reward for a lot of guys at 140-147.
buen dia , valero no peleo con prescott porque estaba en el numero 7 del ranking en ese momento, y prefirio pelear con el numero 2 del ranking en ese entonces antonio demarco. ademas el titere vasquez le gano a prescott e inmediatamente edwin reto al titere y el titere dijo que tenia la mano fracturada y no pudo pelear. esa es la sencilla respuesta a tus preguntas. saludos fraternal y bendiciones.
Valero noqueaba al títere fácil y a prescott talvez un poco más pareja pero Edwin les ganaba solo que no querían pelear con el , apoyó tu punto de vista saludos
Les diré a los que según creen que saben... No sean tontos, Edwin simplemente pegaba durisimo!! La razón de que nunca haya disputado grandes peleas es por que todos (incluido su Pacquiao) le huían, sus razones tendrán, no los culpo... Edwin pega durisimo!!
Tommy Guglielmo the first is more of a straight than a hook. He just doesn’t totally finishes his punch, so his arm is bend. But its still a 2-3, and a beautiful one
Excellent pull counter left hand with a right hook follow up in response to a lead right hand. Would be interesting if Pacquiao would try to do this against Mayweather. Mayweather is known for leading with a straight hand. That one two combo is serious.
Jajaja Pacquiao lo mandaba a la tumba antes, si un boxeador clase B-C como Vicente Mosquera lo complicó durante 10 rounds, Pacman lo mandaba a dormir, Valero nunca se enfrentó a alguien verdaderamente de nivel, aunque si hubiera sido un muy buen boxeador pero la élite del boxeo fácilmente lo hubiera derrotado.
Pacquiao comenzando fue noqueado por un desconocido en cambio Valero a pesar de su poca experiencia le ganó a ese campeón panameño y por ko. Ya que lo que comentas fue 4 años antes de fallecer y ya había mejorado mucho y estaba más fuerte.
@LOBOWILLY VALERO le dio una catedra de boxeo a DEMARCO y lo obligo a abandonar para no recibir un ko contundente que ya se percibia ... EDWIN VALERO no creo que hubiese tenido problemas para despachar a hombres como PRESCOTT, SOTO, BRANDON RIOS o el FANTASMA GUERRERO, me parece que VERDADEROS RETOS eran contra los MARQUEZ, PACQUIAO, BRADLEY y quizas hasta MAYWEATHER si sus pergaminos hubiesen subido como se esperaba ... R.I.P
@dlc85007 It's not because we disagree that I don't know about boxing. If you know about boxing yourself, explain me why Pac was so hesitant against Mosley. I know the answer but I wanna see what you got. ;)
Valero dominated Morales is sparring leading up to his first fight with Paq, the fight Morales won. There is no way to say he wasnt on his level yet because Valero never got the opportunity to show it. If Demarco beats Broner in Nov. I think youll see Valero straight up whooped a potentially great fighter. If given the chance he would beat ANYBODY, I truly believe that
Valero was a myth there is no way to say he was any where even close to broner level with that said Valero did enough to make a lot ppl speculate how good he could have been
verga dofredd estas mal compa si tenia problemas de conducta y eso nadie lo niega pero dime que boxeador no los tiene y si es verdad su defensa es mala pero no digas que le lanzaron puros paquetes por que ningún boxeador empezando le va n a lanzar a pacquiao o floy osea hay que subir escalones y te aseguro que la pegada mas potente y velocidad para ese entonces era de valero le quedo mucho x mostrar mas respetos para el loco
si pero empezar es llevar 5-8peleas y ya se me ASE mucho el uso más de 20 aquí también el problema era que sin ofender pero era venezo. y no tubo un buen promotor y lo de venezolano lo digo por que sin ser ofencivo no es un país boxistica mente relevante como Puerto Rico,mexico,cuba, usa,etc.
Valero offed himself before we could make ANY valid judgement on his place in Boxing history other than he had a world of potential to be an exciting champion. He didn't fight guys that give him recognition as a fighter who would've been great. Unlike,say,Salvador Sanchez who beat Lopez twice,Gomez,Castillo,LaPorte,Nelson.
Nope, its actually rare to get almost knocked out in high level sparring with headgear and 16 oz gloves. You have to be really good to rock another high level boxer. For body shots, different story, it happens a lot.
People talk about if he had no head gear on he would've been knocked out,well let me explain actually wearing head gears are more dangers when competeing or sparring due to have extra weight on the head and neck so if you get hit with a clean shot snaps your head back all that extra weight from the head gear goes with it to,in amatuer boxing they wear head gears to prevent the fighter not to get cut that's all the head gears are for. If you don't believe me research it .but in amatuer boxing elite tournaments they wear no head gear that started on 2014 correct me if I'm wrong .but yes that's about it
ese era valero... cuando el servia de sparring dejaba a los boxeadores como eric el terrible morales y a oscar de la hoya los dejaba maltratados. por eso no lo buscaban xq era incluso mejor q con quien iban a peliar.. mira este video. con careta de proteccion pero igual se le fueron las piernas. si no la hubiera tenido se iba al piso...
@Luv9movee i totally agree i dont think he killed himself, but what did you mean by 'he was too strong for that' do you mean in the sense he would never give up on life no matter what situation her was in? or did you mean he was too strong physically to die from just a hanging?-either way i dont think he commited suicide theres even a video of him laying down on the floor in the cell after he aparently killed himself and i also heard about his wife being shot in the leg few months before
I spar 2 times a week, trust me, nobody wants to get beat up regardless and Morales did against a Valero with only 12 fights at the time. The argument is irrelevent cuz we'll both never know. All I know is Valero was doing stuff in the early stages of his career that niether Paq or JMM were doing in the early stages of theirs. And I cant stress following Demarco enough to get an idea of how good Valero really was. My bad I just like Valero
@dofredd73 EDWIN VALERO simplemente no permitio saber hasta donde iba a llegar (por sus vicios y sus demonios internos), pero en su ultimo combate ante DEMARCO demostro que no solo poseia pegada brutal sino que tambien sabia boxear , cualquier boxeador con una herida de la magnitud de la que recibio en ese combate habria bajado su rendimiento y tal vez abandonado( lo que le ocurrio a LINARES posteriormente ante el mismo DEMARCO, que por una herida claudico ante el mexicano), pero ..
pacquiado es mucho mas tecnico , pero yo creo que con un golpe de valero bien raja madre, pacquiao no se para mas !! pero buenooo eso no paso ya esta muerto valero
Pac vs mosley was a bad style match up, Ive always hated for years when people said they wanted a pac vs mosley fight, mosley to me cant fight at all he has a jerky style. Everytime pac jumped in mosley had a habbit of diving his head straight down in which they headbutted many times, I wouldnt say pac was all that hesitant just the fact of sloppy fighter makes you sloppy. Wasn't pac's night for looking good my thoughts couldnt get anything going with someone that just wasnt on the level
@arnoldinho31 tal vez era tanto su animo de ser reconocido que daba todo en la sesion de sparring.. pero no creo que hubiera vencido a Morales en una pelea de Campeonato... aun asi que golpe tenia Valero
@dlc85007 I got to disagree with that one. Pacquiao performed better in their first fight in 2004 and Marquez was robbed in the 2008 fight. Between those 2 fights, Pac destroyed Morales twice and beat Marco Antonio Barrera again. Then, after the fight, he just went to higher weight classes. What helped him is his incredible speed, stamina and legs strength. His team used the weight to their advantage in almost if not every fight since then. His power is awesome, but Marquez is a legend as well.
@ireh2009 valero peliaba al 100% en el esparring por que queria demostrar que era bueno frente a morales!! morales no peliaba al 100 en sparring por que el no tenia nada que demostrar en un sparring el ya era reconosido mundialmente
es viejo el comentario pero vale la pena contestar , si Valero peleaba suave en sparring decian que el era un bulto y no tan bueno , si peleaba bien en sparring decian que era por presumir y demostrar, por tanto las excusas siempre van a estar por parte de los detractores en todas las disciplinas.
@@Alexander007-bc4mi en ese tiempo nadie conocía a valero lo tenía olvidado su promotor. no le daban peleas por el problema que tenía en la cabeza. no sabes de boxeo, un sparring es para practicar la técnica no pelean para noquear se. claro se calientan en el sparring a veces. pero el sparring no es una verdadera pelea. pregúntale a alguien que practique el boxeo o entrenador. tu no sabes.
@@josesalas9061 , y quien ha dicho que es una verdadera pelea ? Valero era si un poco intenso pero seguia siendo mesurado , de hecho hizo sparring con Omar Figueroa que cuando estaba muchacho era era una fiera he conversado con el y cuenta que Valero hacia unos sparrings muy bueno y que de hecho le presto los cinturones para tomarse una fotos con el y todo , pero claro aqui el que sabe eres tu y las otras opiniones no importan., que te crees saber mucho , las opiniones que yo digo son simplemente replicas de lo dicho por boxeadores que vivieron esos momentos nada mas.
non puoi portare il jab con quella sufficienza, Valero gioca su standard di concentrazione massima, il movmento a molla,(porta il peso sulla gamba sinistra per schivare e allo stesso tempo sfruttare la stessa carica per portare sinistro e destro in modo esplosivo) maestro.
@dlc85007 Pacquiao didn't ko Marquez and struggled in both fights against Juan, so Valero would have gotten his chances as well. Knowing about boxing means that we know that everything can happen. Pac qould not win all fights out of 100 fights to Valero for example, so it just depends on which of those fights would have happened the night of the fight. ;)
Edwin Valero won't have a chance against Marquez. What more for Pacquiao? Marquez and Pacquiao are almost the same in Greatness. 51% Pacquiao and 49% Marquez.
@danhantheman ill be going down to the sports bets and putting money on floyd 12 round decision for Ortiz for sure, however with manny i dont know bro, ill decide after floyd's performance against this left hander Ortiz. G UNIT!
@dlc85007 Style make fights. Marquez has the perfect style to give Pacquiao problems with his counter right. hand. It happened in BOTH fights and there were several years between all three fights... Pacquiao should get the ko in the third fight, but it would be more a matter of size than anything. Marquez will hit and make Pacquiao look bad for some time though... ;)
@ireh2009 yo creo q valero le pegaria a paquiao! morales en buen estado fisico le pega a paquia las veces que sea!! mucha gente no sabe que morales abia perdido antes de la pelea. en la vascula asta hay un video donde los comentaristas de hbo comentan sobre esto!
Dont compare the technical skills of Valero to Marquez and Pacquiao. I can see Valero eating a lot of Right Hooks from Pacquiao. And i can see Valero eating a lot of Combinations from Marquez.
@ireh2009 la pelea obiamente no se la dieron por que sabian que valero le podia ganar a paquiao!! y si tu estas asiendo mucho dinero no quieres perder!! por eso a marquez tardaron mucho en darsela y ahora lo quieren agarrar ya que tiene 38 anos
that would be a brutal KO of the yr if they fought with 8oz/no headgear in a main event! U ALREADY KNOW. HBO highlight of the night! damn valero would kill all these fools like Amir Khunt, Maidana, Victor the fraud, certainly Rios that bum. he would be up there with manny and floyd!
valero had better technical skill than pan and more speed and power than marquez. he wouldve beaten them both, might sound crazy i know but watch the demarco fight about 15 times and youll see
Pax would have knocked out Valero and Marquez would have counter him all other lmao he beat up Demario big whoo pee do who the fuck has Demario beat? In fact what the u k happen to his career ? Lmao is he even relevant anymore
I think valero would have beaten pac, he was improving astonishingly quick and he was bigger and much more powerful than pacquaio, valero could box to and had a thinking mans brain, another 12 months after demarco and he wouldv beat pacman in my opinion.
Sergio Martinez sparred only 60 rounds to fight JCCJR in a 3 month camp, which he does for every fight, you do the math. Next time have at least a semblance of a clue on what you are speaking of, I hate people.
edwin solo pegaba duro!!!! carecia de tecnica contra marquez no tenia nada que hacer, no enfrento alos mejores de este deporte, como bas a ser el mejor saludos!!!!
@dlc85007 u best be going for floyd. im going all in for floyd by win and the Over. putting your money on floyd and andre ward are sure bets. only way pac gonna win is by KO.
@Konam84 No seas loco, Pacquia lo hubiera matado en el Ring, Valero tenía problemas en el cerebro, el no debía tener licencia pues se había fracturado el cráneo en un accidente en moto. de ahí sus problemas de conducta y locura. Su defensa era pésima, sencillamente Pacquiao lo hubiera destrozado. valero solo peleó con paquetes, nunca enfrentó un rival importante que lo golpeara y lo atacara a fondo.
Best punch combination ive ever seen, it had it all speed, power, timing and accuracy it was beautiful
Soy un mexicano que reconoce lo bueno, en este caso, reconozco al Gran Inca Edwin Valero...enorme, simplemente espectacular y aunque hayan varios "conocedores" mexicanos comentando aquí no se que tonterías, la verdad es que Edwin #1
Una pena que un talentazo asi se nos haya ido de esa forma, que en paz descansen tanto el como su mujer y mucha luz para sus hijos
Damn!, and that was with headgear on. Without headgear he would have most definitely knocked him out cold. He timed and connected perfectly well.
Bullshit it's very hard to get knockouted with head gear in fact it's very uncommon that someone can knock a guy out with head gear .
He almost was knocked out.
Headgear doesn't do anything but prevent cuts, the impact is even greater with headgear on because it adds mass to the head.
@@tannergoodman945Haha, not true. Headgear is used to increase the safety of a boxer by reducing the force of a punch and preventing concussions, head trauma, or even cuts from head clashes etc. It does not add mass to the punch!! Trust me - Urbano Antillon would of been knocked out cold or on stanky legs if he didn't have a head guard on.
It's why he knocked everyone out. 27 wins with 27 knockouts!! He even bashed a prime Erik Morales about in sparring
That straight left positioned him nicely for that right hook.
Tenía una precisión de pegada veloz potente y certera como piedra me pregunto si no tuviera el protector de rostro yo creo que lo manda un largo tiempo al hospital que velocidad la del difunto
That was a good combo from valero, the speed and timing of those punches could hurt anyone lol
Say what you want about Valero, but you have to admire his boxing ability
now that's speed an power
Schnell,einfach Perfekt.
hermosa combinacion
Valero had the power to turn around a fight in one punch. Wasn't really a matter of 'if', it was a matter of 'when'.
His power was overrated Demario was a big 140 guy broner got him out of there very easy. Valero was good if he statues at 135 any bring at 140-146 he gets beat by the top guys
@@Pandafunk-rp6wi You sound like an insane person.
Edwin would of knocked Pacquiao out.
Y eso que lo remató con la derecha, si es con la izquierda lo mata xd..
Edwin,s hand-eye was exceptional,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.....
jaja! lo que no sabia era que valero era el sparring de antillon!! me imagino la cara de la esquina de antillon! mi hermano me lo vas a malograr pa' la pelea, estas loco???
Ese esparrin fue contra. Quien
Ese era Ubaldo Antillon , retador numero uno al titulo welter para ese momento , le buscaron de Sparring a Valero quien aun era un super pluma desconocido que hacia peleas apenas de 6 round para ese entonces , pero aun asi siendo un novato de menor peso le dio una putiza al retador numero uno del peso welter
Que tragedia que se aiga muerto este muchacho. Y todo por la pinche droga!!!!! Odio las drogas!!! Destruyen vidas y talento. Nos robo peleas que jamás se olvidarían. Este si entraba a rajar
Tenia un estilo tipoo brus lee
Golpes fuertes y tan rapidos que paresiera que no tiene tecnica peri si lo pasan a camara lenta se ve la buena tecnica y la elegancia del peleador
Hasta donde hubiera llegado este monstruo de verdad????...una pena....saludos desde Argentina
@dlc85007 I understand your point, but what saved Mosley from an obvious KO was the fact he opted for a "counterpunching" style with his right hand, the very same money punch that Marquez used against Pac in both fights. Mosley ran too, but since he changed his style may be for the very first time of his career, it surprised the Pacquiao clan and he had to be very aware of Mosley's power and unexpected style for this fight. Pac was caught by that punch a couple of times, but Mosley not active...
Valero was a boss
Defense a little shabby but work rate and power off the charts
Prime for prime Edwin Valero would have smashed Manny Pacquiao
This!
And Floyd...
He never fought top level fighters and thats the reason why he looks good. So theres no chance for him to beat pac and floyd.
pls stfu all of you. "defense a little shabby". you wouldn`t even be able to touch his chin.
Valero showed with the DeMarco fight that he could box and had slick defense to use against the elites, and his work rate was something never seen at 135 in a long ass time. When it came time to throw Valero to the wolfs of the division they were going to be in for a rude awaking. Valero would have been a high risk low reward for a lot of guys at 140-147.
buen dia , valero no peleo con prescott porque estaba en el numero 7 del ranking en ese momento, y prefirio pelear con el numero 2 del ranking en ese entonces antonio demarco.
ademas el titere vasquez le gano a prescott e inmediatamente edwin reto al titere y el titere dijo que tenia la mano fracturada y no pudo pelear. esa es la sencilla respuesta a tus preguntas. saludos fraternal y bendiciones.
Valero noqueaba al títere fácil y a prescott talvez un poco más pareja pero Edwin les ganaba solo que no querían pelear con el , apoyó tu punto de vista saludos
Les diré a los que según creen que saben... No sean tontos, Edwin simplemente pegaba durisimo!! La razón de que nunca haya disputado grandes peleas es por que todos (incluido su Pacquiao) le huían, sus razones tendrán, no los culpo... Edwin pega durisimo!!
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No seas pendejo!! Nunca tuvo peleas con grandes así de fácil..
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si no tiene el protector le da vuelta la cabeza!! minimo!!
That was a slip 2-3, not a 1-2.
Doug siad that was a 1 2 it was a 2 3
Faustino Covarrubias it was a 3 4 actually, Edwin was left handed, but in this video stood orthodox south.
Tommy Guglielmo the first is more of a straight than a hook. He just doesn’t totally finishes his punch, so his arm is bend. But its still a 2-3, and a beautiful one
madre boxeador. el mejor
pure gold
Le acomodó el protector 🤣
Excellent pull counter left hand with a right hook follow up in response to a lead right hand. Would be interesting if Pacquiao would try to do this against Mayweather. Mayweather is known for leading with a straight hand. That one two combo is serious.
y eso que tenia protector, si no queda fulminao
Es cierto lo que decían que pudo llegar a ser mejor que el estadounidense
@arnoldinho31 Muy acertado tu comentario mens... Valero era el único que podía derrotar al pacman lamentablemente esa pelea nunca se dio
Jajaja Pacquiao lo mandaba a la tumba antes, si un boxeador clase B-C como Vicente Mosquera lo complicó durante 10 rounds, Pacman lo mandaba a dormir, Valero nunca se enfrentó a alguien verdaderamente de nivel, aunque si hubiera sido un muy buen boxeador pero la élite del boxeo fácilmente lo hubiera derrotado.
Pacquiao comenzando fue noqueado por un desconocido en cambio Valero a pesar de su poca experiencia le ganó a ese campeón panameño y por ko. Ya que lo que comentas fue 4 años antes de fallecer y ya había mejorado mucho y estaba más fuerte.
q tecnica y velocidad.
@LOBOWILLY VALERO le dio una catedra de boxeo a DEMARCO y lo obligo a abandonar para no recibir un ko contundente que ya se percibia ... EDWIN VALERO no creo que hubiese tenido problemas para despachar a hombres como PRESCOTT, SOTO, BRANDON RIOS o el FANTASMA GUERRERO, me parece que VERDADEROS RETOS eran contra los MARQUEZ, PACQUIAO, BRADLEY y quizas hasta MAYWEATHER si sus pergaminos hubiesen subido como se esperaba ... R.I.P
@dlc85007 It's not because we disagree that I don't know about boxing. If you know about boxing yourself, explain me why Pac was so hesitant against Mosley. I know the answer but I wanna see what you got. ;)
Valero dominated Morales is sparring leading up to his first fight with Paq, the fight Morales won. There is no way to say he wasnt on his level yet because Valero never got the opportunity to show it. If Demarco beats Broner in Nov. I think youll see Valero straight up whooped a potentially great fighter. If given the chance he would beat ANYBODY, I truly believe that
Valero was a myth there is no way to say he was any where even close to broner level with that said Valero did enough to make a lot ppl speculate how good he could have been
Wow
X50 REPLAY
verga dofredd estas mal compa si tenia problemas de conducta y eso nadie lo niega pero dime que boxeador no los tiene y si es verdad su defensa es mala pero no digas que le lanzaron puros paquetes por que ningún boxeador empezando le va n a lanzar a pacquiao o floy osea hay que subir escalones y te aseguro que la pegada mas potente y velocidad para ese entonces era de valero le quedo mucho x mostrar mas respetos para el loco
si pero empezar es llevar 5-8peleas y ya se me ASE mucho el uso más de 20 aquí también el problema era que sin ofender pero era venezo. y no tubo un buen promotor y lo de venezolano lo digo por que sin ser ofencivo no es un país boxistica mente relevante como Puerto Rico,mexico,cuba, usa,etc.
Estas seguro? busca quien fue david griman a ver si venezuela no tiene buenos promotores
MrJAGimenez 27 paquetes y 27 nokaout no sabes lo que hablas men
That looks like Oscar
Valero offed himself before we could make ANY valid judgement on his place in Boxing history other than he had a world of potential to be an exciting champion. He didn't fight guys that give him recognition as a fighter who would've been great. Unlike,say,Salvador Sanchez who beat Lopez twice,Gomez,Castillo,LaPorte,Nelson.
Valero eres Grande!
The guy said Valero did a 1,2....it was 2,3...come on
is this more common in pro sparring? for people to get almost knocked out
Nope, its actually rare to get almost knocked out in high level sparring with headgear and 16 oz gloves. You have to be really good to rock another high level boxer. For body shots, different story, it happens a lot.
valero is a real G
People talk about if he had no head gear on he would've been knocked out,well let me explain actually wearing head gears are more dangers when competeing or sparring due to have extra weight on the head and neck so if you get hit with a clean shot snaps your head back all that extra weight from the head gear goes with it to,in amatuer boxing they wear head gears to prevent the fighter not to get cut that's all the head gears are for. If you don't believe me research it .but in amatuer boxing elite tournaments they wear no head gear that started on 2014 correct me if I'm wrong .but yes that's about it
pete C my balls
King combo
ese era valero... cuando el servia de sparring dejaba a los boxeadores como eric el terrible morales y a oscar de la hoya los dejaba maltratados. por eso no lo buscaban xq era incluso mejor q con quien iban a peliar.. mira este video. con careta de proteccion pero igual se le fueron las piernas. si no la hubiera tenido se iba al piso...
@bboyroxas No.. he wouldnt.
@georgio210 COÑAZOOO (significa , golpe, manoplazo, choque, mandurriazo, lepe, VALERAZO, etc)
😂😂😂😂está buena esa
@Luv9movee i totally agree i dont think he killed himself, but what did you mean by 'he was too strong for that' do you mean in the sense he would never give up on life no matter what situation her was in? or did you mean he was too strong physically to die from just a hanging?-either way i dont think he commited suicide theres even a video of him laying down on the floor in the cell after he aparently killed himself and i also heard about his wife being shot in the leg few months before
I spar 2 times a week, trust me, nobody wants to get beat up regardless and Morales did against a Valero with only 12 fights at the time. The argument is irrelevent cuz we'll both never know. All I know is Valero was doing stuff in the early stages of his career that niether Paq or JMM were doing in the early stages of theirs. And I cant stress following Demarco enough to get an idea of how good Valero really was. My bad I just like Valero
Ryan garcia vs edwin valero. Who wins?
dirtysouth heavyhitter please shut the fuck up
duck, 2, 3 lights out
@dofredd73 EDWIN VALERO simplemente no permitio saber hasta donde iba a llegar (por sus vicios y sus demonios internos), pero en su ultimo combate ante DEMARCO demostro que no solo poseia pegada brutal sino que tambien sabia boxear , cualquier boxeador con una herida de la magnitud de la que recibio en ese combate habria bajado su rendimiento y tal vez abandonado( lo que le ocurrio a LINARES posteriormente ante el mismo DEMARCO, que por una herida claudico ante el mexicano), pero ..
beautiful
@bboyroxas u guys must understand edwin has way fewer fights than pacquiao and could have developed into something more
pacquiado es mucho mas tecnico , pero yo creo que con un golpe de valero bien raja madre, pacquiao no se para mas !! pero buenooo eso no paso ya esta muerto valero
Pacquiao lo mandaba a dormir, mínimo Maidana acababa con Valero.
@HalDanGhor Their last fights were not only same size but pac was lacking in boxing skill as to what he is up to now
face palm* like manny pacquiao throws a lot of right hooks.
Pac vs mosley was a bad style match up, Ive always hated for years when people said they wanted a pac vs mosley fight, mosley to me cant fight at all he has a jerky style. Everytime pac jumped in mosley had a habbit of diving his head straight down in which they headbutted many times, I wouldnt say pac was all that hesitant just the fact of sloppy fighter makes you sloppy. Wasn't pac's night for looking good my thoughts couldnt get anything going with someone that just wasnt on the level
@djk28161 i doubt he smoked but he did drink a lot
@arnoldinho31 tal vez era tanto su animo de ser reconocido que daba todo en la sesion de sparring.. pero no creo que hubiera vencido a Morales en una pelea de Campeonato... aun asi que golpe tenia Valero
@dlc85007 I got to disagree with that one. Pacquiao performed better in their first fight in 2004 and Marquez was robbed in the 2008 fight. Between those 2 fights, Pac destroyed Morales twice and beat Marco Antonio Barrera again. Then, after the fight, he just went to higher weight classes. What helped him is his incredible speed, stamina and legs strength. His team used the weight to their advantage in almost if not every fight since then. His power is awesome, but Marquez is a legend as well.
ROLO E COÑAZOOOOOOO
@ireh2009 valero peliaba al 100% en el esparring por que queria demostrar que era bueno frente a morales!! morales no peliaba al 100 en sparring por que el no tenia nada que demostrar en un sparring el ya era reconosido mundialmente
es viejo el comentario pero vale la pena contestar , si Valero peleaba suave en sparring decian que el era un bulto y no tan bueno , si peleaba bien en sparring decian que era por presumir y demostrar, por tanto las excusas siempre van a estar por parte de los detractores en todas las disciplinas.
@@Alexander007-bc4mi en ese tiempo nadie conocía a valero lo tenía olvidado su promotor. no le daban peleas por el problema que tenía en la cabeza. no sabes de boxeo, un sparring es para practicar la técnica no pelean para noquear se. claro se calientan en el sparring a veces. pero el sparring no es una verdadera pelea. pregúntale a alguien que practique el boxeo o entrenador. tu no sabes.
@@josesalas9061 , y quien ha dicho que es una verdadera pelea ? Valero era si un poco intenso pero seguia siendo mesurado , de hecho hizo sparring con Omar Figueroa que cuando estaba muchacho era era una fiera he conversado con el y cuenta que Valero hacia unos sparrings muy bueno y que de hecho le presto los cinturones para tomarse una fotos con el y todo , pero claro aqui el que sabe eres tu y las otras opiniones no importan., que te crees saber mucho , las opiniones que yo digo son simplemente replicas de lo dicho por boxeadores que vivieron esos momentos nada mas.
Another first round knockout! xD
non puoi portare il jab con quella sufficienza, Valero gioca su standard di concentrazione massima, il movmento a molla,(porta il peso sulla gamba sinistra per schivare e allo stesso tempo sfruttare la stessa carica per portare sinistro e destro in modo esplosivo) maestro.
Only 2 times a week? Aint enough if you're going to fight other people.
It depends 2 times a week I know someone who does that and spars up to 20 rds
@dlc85007 Pacquiao didn't ko Marquez and struggled in both fights against Juan, so Valero would have gotten his chances as well. Knowing about boxing means that we know that everything can happen. Pac qould not win all fights out of 100 fights to Valero for example, so it just depends on which of those fights would have happened the night of the fight. ;)
Edwin Valero won't have a chance against Marquez. What more for Pacquiao?
Marquez and Pacquiao are almost the same in Greatness. 51% Pacquiao and 49% Marquez.
@bboyroxas lol no. Valero was really good but some of his technique isn't that good. Manny by points
@danhantheman ill be going down to the sports bets and putting money on floyd 12 round decision for Ortiz for sure, however with manny i dont know bro, ill decide after floyd's performance against this left hander Ortiz. G UNIT!
@dlc85007 Style make fights. Marquez has the perfect style to give Pacquiao problems with his counter right. hand. It happened in BOTH fights and there were several years between all three fights... Pacquiao should get the ko in the third fight, but it would be more a matter of size than anything. Marquez will hit and make Pacquiao look bad for some time though... ;)
@ireh2009 yo creo q valero le pegaria a paquiao! morales en buen estado fisico le pega a paquia las veces que sea!! mucha gente no sabe que morales abia perdido antes de la pelea. en la vascula asta hay un video donde los comentaristas de hbo comentan sobre esto!
@bboyroxas ha ha ha that makes loads of sense
Dont compare the technical skills of Valero to Marquez and Pacquiao.
I can see Valero eating a lot of Right Hooks from Pacquiao.
And i can see Valero eating a lot of Combinations from Marquez.
Brutal asesino de mujeres, descanse en el infierno si puede.
@ireh2009 la pelea obiamente no se la dieron por que sabian que valero le podia ganar a paquiao!! y si tu estas asiendo mucho dinero no quieres perder!! por eso a marquez tardaron mucho en darsela y ahora lo quieren agarrar ya que tiene 38 anos
that would be a brutal KO of the yr if they fought with 8oz/no headgear in a main event! U ALREADY KNOW. HBO highlight of the night!
damn valero would kill all these fools like Amir Khunt, Maidana, Victor the fraud, certainly Rios that bum. he would be up there with manny and floyd!
valero had better technical skill than pan and more speed and power than marquez. he wouldve beaten them both, might sound crazy i know but watch the demarco fight about 15 times and youll see
Pax would have knocked out Valero and Marquez would have counter him all other lmao he beat up Demario big whoo pee do who the fuck has Demario beat? In fact what the u k happen to his career ? Lmao is he even relevant anymore
I think valero would have beaten pac, he was improving astonishingly quick and he was bigger and much more powerful than pacquaio, valero could box to and had a thinking mans brain, another 12 months after demarco and he wouldv beat pacman in my opinion.
Sergio Martinez sparred only 60 rounds to fight JCCJR in a 3 month camp, which he does for every fight, you do the math. Next time have at least a semblance of a clue on what you are speaking of, I hate people.
@arnoldinho31 si no tiene proteccion lo deja muerto ahi mismo en la lona.
@bboyroxas Valero killed no one but himself. OOPS!
haha i like how you just pissed yourself. i dont give a shit how many rounds he sparred. are you sergio martinez? nope.
A un De la Hoya ya veterano jajajaja. Paquiao después le ha de dar una paliza a Oscar.
edwin solo pegaba duro!!!! carecia de tecnica contra marquez no tenia nada que hacer, no enfrento alos mejores de este deporte, como bas a ser el mejor saludos!!!!
No tenia tecnica ? Por diossss era un contragolpeador nato y pegaba durisimo con ambas manos !
valero was a fukin beast, i try to punish my sparring partners also.. check my chnnel out.
think he killed his wife with one of those shots
@dlc85007 u best be going for floyd. im going all in for floyd by win and the Over. putting your money on floyd and andre ward are sure bets. only way pac gonna win is by KO.
paq*
jaja that is a sparting session only, paquiao can kill the inca
pacqauo scrared ducking valero
@Konam84 No seas loco, Pacquia lo hubiera matado en el Ring, Valero tenía problemas en el cerebro, el no debía tener licencia pues se había fracturado el cráneo en un accidente en moto. de ahí sus problemas de conducta y locura. Su defensa era pésima, sencillamente Pacquiao lo hubiera destrozado. valero solo peleó con paquetes, nunca enfrentó un rival importante que lo golpeara y lo atacara a fondo.
@Konam84 El golpe más fuerte que recibió fue el de su accidente en moto. Peleó con puros paquetes viejos y acabados.
@bboyroxas:
I doubt it. Pacquiao is a better all-around fighter with similar power and speed.