Of course, he loved Ez ..his a real g ruled by the code .... ... ..Creepers gave up his life to protect the club 😢 for what , to find out his a rat 🐀...
After watching this episode last night, I've come to a realization. I realized that a lot of ppl compare EZ to Jax, but EZ is more comparable to Clay. The scene that happens immediately after this really makes that comparison come to light. I'm not gonna spoil it for those who haven't watched it yet, but what EZ does is definitely something Clay would've done in that situation.
@@JRboy23it really doesn’t. Jax was a good hearted man who fell victim to the corruption of the club. EZ was a smart man who lost himself to the temptation of power. 2 different leaders
@@fatmanzeitgeist816 Yes it does EZ had to kill a girl he only dated for a few weeks to become “dark”. It isn’t natural and is the result of bad writing his character development was rushed for example how he became president soon after he became vp in less than a season
@@JRboy23 that’s the genius behind it. EZ was portrayed as smart from the get go. We see him being used to solve situations the other club members can’t solve while he’s a prospect. Even as a prospect we see EZ diving in to help the club. When he gets patched, we see that growth in him even more only now he’s not just smart, he’s getting devious. He’s getting thirsty for power. HE comes up with the one king plan. HE is willing to exterminate Canche and Ramos even going as far as to say to Angel “I would have killed that kid (Canche’s).” That darkness was always there but the writers did an excellent job of not having it be in your face. The promotion to VP by Alvarez multiplied that for him. EZ killing Gaby (who he starts talking to at the end of season 2 and dates for the entirety of season 3, don’t know where the hell you got “a couple weeks” from) wasn’t EZ going dark. He always had that darkness. It was the writers showing us that now he’s no longer hiding that darkness. It’s completely in your face
It actually made me laugh when EZ made it seem like Creeper was attacking him, it was unexpected. This was overall a better episode of the season for sure.
@@jamalhiley8007 I agree lol he shouldn’t have been spilling club secrets but it parallel real life lol we’ve all said too much around a chick we liked
the day creeper let kody/katie in during the NA meeting sadly was the day his fate was sealed he shouldve known, but like she said he was isolated, alone & a wounded animal & he just wanted to feel something, they capitalized and he took the bait & look where it landed him
Betrayed them in what way ? EZ never gave Intel or worked with cops and got potter off his back. Bishop wanted his 1 king rule EZ went and killed Ramos and canche and when the sons where coming at them EZ took out Isaac and the SB charter
@@ulisesreyes9343 if you search the word rat in the dictionary it should be a picture of ez. Dont get me wrong i really liked his character, he was really well done and everything but he was literally released from prison to colaborate with the feds. Not only that, he killed the most loyal soldier the mayans had. Creeper took everything on him just to be killed by his brother who he loved and respected. The mayans are ruthless and evil, look what they did to those innocent girls when they tought they are collaborating. Ofc they were gonna kill ez when they found out he is a rat. They wasnt in the wrong, Ez broke the code
I have been thinking about the fact that EZ is alot like Clay. Watching him rise up the club, his story resembles a lot of what they said was Clay's rise to power. This is why I am now investing in seeing him pull it all off. I think that will be what makes Mayans interesting to me. Seeing a golden boy college bound, turn into a ruthless and powerful MC leader. I think if he dies or goes to jail, I think that is Sons all over again. However, if they show how EZ actually ends up fully working and committing to Lincoln Potter (thus getting protection from the Feds). Also, setting up were the Sons MC takes the blame for killing that investigator going after Potter, thus having the full weight of the Federal government come down on the club could be an interesting twist. Through SOA getting taken out, and Miguel being set up somehow as well, it puts Mayans in the position to fully take over. I don't think Angel will survive. He is the more Jax like character in the story. A man caught between two families. I think what will really make the ending sad, is if EZ and his girl ends up raising Angel's kid, basically setting up almost a parallel story to Sons.
Exactly wat I was hoping for something to set it up being different then the SOA series cuhz if eazy dies hoes to jail or loses the club wat was really different
I found it slightly evil that EZ did this I only think this because creeper was one of the few who welcomed him big time , it was a huge shocker for me
Yep agree ....He should of he kept his mouth shut🤐 to literally tell Ez that his ratting him out to club is a dead deal ...Poor creepers didn't think smart...😢
The pain in creepers face is hard to see. From what i understand in the outlaw MC world you are not allowed to join if you have EVER been affiliated or worked in law enforcement so rat or not , EZ is in violation of that rule and knows it which means he's still fcked it just sucks that in their MC rules and way of life there is no buande or if and are buts about that sort of thing, to them it doesn't matter if you kill a hundred cops and show that your career as a cop is long behind you , if you were ever law enforcement you are done. So there's really no way out for EZ and its tragic because he truly is commited to the club.
Everybody keeps talking about how dark Ez is and can’t be redeemed but he didn’t even deny the Accusation he accepted it only asking creeper to give him more time to put the club in a better position than when he found it everybody says he’s driven by the thirst for power but I don’t think that’s the case
I found it interesting that he’d tell the rest of Santo Padre that EZ, their leader, was a/the rat. But didn’t mention that Kody was a fed and not to let her around before he even found all that out about EZ.
I mean kody isn’t a Mayan so it really wouldn’t matter she wouldn’t know shi unless creeper said something…said it makes sense for him to get mad at the PRESIDENT over your club
Creeper was dumb for letting him know that he knew. Of course he was gonna start plotting on you so you couldn't give him up. He should've just shut up and told Hank in a later call.
The whole 1st season was creeper, angel and coco working against the club cause it was "in its best interests but the club didnt know it" kind of thing. Now acting fully commited
So did Creeper lol. Nobody told him to turn himself in. Should’ve taken the issue to the club. Probably would’ve had Codi slept after that and a done deal.
I think EZ is filled with a “victory disease.” His dark personality trait is manifesting with this victory disease making him a loose cannon & a wrecking ball. When Creeper revealed that he knows that EZ is a snitch, you can see the hurt and the betrayal on his face. He threw all of his life away for EZ and only to find out that he is a rat and he ends up in solitary so he doesn’t speak to Hank. Was EZ right to do what he did or was he wrong?
EZ was right to do what he did. He had the vision and ability to guide the club. The other Mayans just pissed it all away. And hell, Creeper can't claim to be an outlaw saint, as he only got the intel from a fed. The Mayans are their own worst enemies. Even without the raid, killing EZ would have caused the club to crash and burn.
@@dmi6101 EZ is responsible for everything that happened. He did not have the reputation that Alvarez had, and he lacked the experience to think ahead of the game at that moment. All he had was short-term victories and not long-term ones, and the things that he did were good for the Mayans as a whole, but that does not excuse the two things that he did that go against MC rules and laws. Does the dialogue also catch your attention? All he goes on about is taking the club to greater heights, ushering in a new era, and attempting to do things that would make the Mayans more prosperous; that is a sign of Custer syndrome, individuals who dream of glory and fame without realizing they're putting those around them in danger and causing them to die in the first episode; that was the initial indication of it. Members in high-ranking positions expressed their concerns and doubts about the plan, and one by one, Mayans began to die, and people began to pull out. That is not a good look for someone who sits at the top of the organization.
@@seth_fitzgerald When they killed EZ, he had just finished the war with the Sons, and had formed a partnership with the Grim Bastards and Iron Wall. Neither of those will last past his death. And killing Creeper? For F**k's sake, they let a new patch kill a Mayan PRESIDENT. They seem to follow the outlaw code only when it suits them. And they screwed every Mayan in jail, when the Iron Wall takes revenge.
Creeper was holding on to something that was dead a along time ago, the Mayans with the exception of Angel cared about EZ's fentanyl money not "morals". Creeper wasn't getting anytime soon anyhow.
It was when he turned himself in. Instead of taking the issue of his lady being a fed to the club. Even tho he already had taken her around there prior to turning himself in. Idk they ruined the last two seasons with rushing everything and leaving a lot of unanswered questions and wasted a lot of storylines. Like Galindo being EZ’s brother lol. That didn’t get anywhere
Good point. EZ is a god right now after killing Issac's goon at the meeting. He can easily spin his informing only on Galindo and chances sre the club will believe him.
Pretty much. This chapter of the Mayans were impressive morons and hypocrites, starting fights instead of getting paid, and killing their own after he puts them on top (which ensures that they only fall from a greater height).
@@xbacongrizzler6929 It would be one thing if EZ was already a member and then got threatened to be a rat. A dog on a short leash can pull in the wrong direction. Joining as a rat meant that it was always going to be a death sentence.
@@el_killorcurehopefully the will see it that way. Sadly the only way for ez to walk away clean from this. Is to kill creeper and JJ cousin, who he don't even know about
@@oredixon1276 that is true for some reason I got confused plus it’s not like Ez has the cops informed about the club seeing what him and angel did to potter, creeper is a hypocrite lol
@@ulisesreyes9343 to be fair, he did not know she was a undercover. She posed well as a civilian. She confessed to Neron/Creeper that she was with the feds. EZ only did it for his freedom. He did not give up the Mayans. The main goal was to take down the Galindo Cartel for Potter and the feds. He never did it obviously which is why Jimenez had to be killed. Like Lucky said, the feds don’t bust you immediately, they build a case and then come down hard. They already knew all the kills they have done even without EZ’s info. They had every kill down from season 1 up until the middle of season 4
This is a poor ending for Mayan, Ez die for inform about Galindo? Like that shit doesn’t even matter no more. Creeper got himself locked up because of a pssy! Also that pssy walked up to bishop and told him exactly what happen to creeper and everything get point at Ez. That’s just stupid…. Bad ending. They rush the ending.
The communication skills in SOA and Mayans baffles me. The characters speak stuff out loud that would be more vital to their survival to stay hidden and yet refuse to talk about stuff that could have cleared up and prevented a whole mess of problems. Hot take if Taza and Juice just told their clubs about the potential blackmail material their enemies could use hanging over their heads, with Juice's dad being black and Taza being Bisexual. So many problems they experienced could have been prevented.
Maybe, maybe not. Jax did toss out the old rule of 'No Blacks', but being gay might be a bridge too far for the Mayans. And well, they are criminals. The clubs try to be about brotherhood, but a weak link is a weak link.
@@dmi6101 Jax tossing the old rule had to go through a unanimous all club president vote first cause it was a bylaw. And because it passed so easily it makes me wonder if it was like one of those bylaws the club just didn't bother changing cause anyone who was black and wanted a part of the life either joined up with a club like the grim bastards or made their own set. Now with Taza. I respectfully disagree, cause first of all him being bisexual had nothing to do with his outlaw skills as sexuality never actually has an impact on ability. He made his way to VP and was a huge earner for the club while also being the reason they had American Indigenous allies and safe spots. Also at the time when it was the most critical, mayans were working on a deal with SAMCRO who's VP was dating a transgender woman. So they probably wouldn't care. The only issue was Paolo of The Vatos. But everyone would have been like who cares there is millions on the table, Paolo either get in line and get over it or we will replace you with another Vato. After all it was 2 MCs against 1 and Santo Padre alone already kicked the Vatos ass once.
I was always annoyed by this greatness that EZ was chasing and others were ranting about. It really killes their motivation for me, as it sucks. The war with the Sons was also a load of crap. They could have made it any other club but it had to feel heavy. So many wasted storylines the lsst few seasons. So many poor resolutions and forced deaths just for the shock factor. So many characters that were done dirty... Bishop was turned into a drunk shadow, Alvarez had this family storyline just to keep the man on the show and draw audiences, Miguel Galindo felt like he had more presence last season where he appeared like 3 times, Isaac was absolutely wasted and they tried waaay too hard to make him psychotic, Felipe was still there just to be killed off, Nestor was downgraded to hell as a prospect. My biggest gripe was Happy - they just brought him back to kill him for the shock, and it felt so forced and redundant - they left the guy roam for 3 seasons, so when I saw him I thought why the hell are they coming for him now? I thought they had carried on and let him live after all that time, but nope - we have to kill a familiar Son. And of course kill Packer off screen as well, because Robert Patrick is too expensive to bring just to lie in a hospital bed dying, but we still need to kill some more known Sons. Thank god they didn't bring Tiggy or Chibs just to waste them too... And on top we had a totally unneccessary bunch of amazon biker girls that were supposed to be stunning and brave, but felt so dumb and forced.
Ez being an informant back when he was a prospect so irrelevant. He literally killed the fed that he was snitching too. Hes done nothing but kill everyone thats ever been a threat to the club since he became a member.
Lmao being a informant in the criminal world is not irrelevant. Regardless of circumstances he made a fucking deal with the dea and fed them information untill a potter told him to kill his cousin… if potter didn’t save him he would of still been feeding information on the cartel or he would of been back in jail and labeled a rat… he was a RAT. You just dont get it it
@@ripper9362 who cares though? Jax teller made deals behind the clubs back. It's literally no different. We already know what ez has done and what he is capable of and what he will do. Regardless of what deal he took he never even gave them any information.
@@chrisrambo8142 every member of every criminal organization ever cares, thats who cares lol rats aren’t toleranted, and yes he was a rat because he gave information on the cartel. Rat lol just killed one of the most loyal members of his own club to protect himself. Rat. Rat. Rat behaviour.
EZ got put in a lot of messed up positions and none where his fault most of the time he was cleaning up someone else's mess I feel for creeper but he just didn't know it was so much more to what we had done
Any form of cooperation with the feds is considered snitching. Juice thought he was doing good by the club in soa by working with potter cause they told him they just wanted the cartel and not the club. Look how he ended up.
@@Finesser-94 says the kid who didn’t even watch SOA. Ez is a rat and a novice. Jax killed his own mother and went to war against the Irish mob, the cartel , the Koreans etc.. watch the show kiddo
They fr butchered Ezs arc. Season 4 should've really focused on EZ descent instead of having 5 million subplots. This whole heel turn doesn't feel earned at all.
This clip gave me the same feeling I got watching Juice confession to Jax on what really happened to Tara! Very, very, very Intense, this whole episode was Intense, God I’m goin to really miss this show, ONLY 5 episodes left 😢
@@mastadon2268 yeah I agree It was more Intense with Juice/Jax, that was a special scene due to It not being a scripted scene, that was both of them with raw emotion and they just went with It.
wow they made Mayan jus a shit show didn't they in the later season atleast samcro did a lot better jus goes to show you that they have no idea where to go with this show n jus making it a soap opera
Killing the fed that you're snitching too makes up for that honestly. Regardless of what deal he took before he even joined the club, he never told on anyone. This is so irrelevant lol
You can see the hurt in his facial expression and feel his rage after he found out poor creeper he actually loved ez
It's like it hurts that he has to go against him now and that's a whole different level of hurt and he was Hella loyal to ez
Of course, he loved Ez ..his a real g ruled by the code .... ... ..Creepers gave up his life to protect the club 😢 for what , to find out his a rat 🐀...
Brothers did died for nothing and lies but for taza’s lie
Taza started it all not EZ. EZ lost himself when he killed Gaby.
EZ could have easily said Jimenez tried to make him a rat and he killed his own blood to save the club,
That’s what I woulda said
It doesn't matter
@@Anti.Vegans that’s why he said tried to
You people clearly don't know how organizations feel bout any sort of pig involvement
Wouldn't have mattered. EZ worked with the feds.
After watching this episode last night, I've come to a realization. I realized that a lot of ppl compare EZ to Jax, but EZ is more comparable to Clay. The scene that happens immediately after this really makes that comparison come to light. I'm not gonna spoil it for those who haven't watched it yet, but what EZ does is definitely something Clay would've done in that situation.
BS!!!
SPOILER
EZ proved he meant "I'll bleed by your side" when taking on Issac's goon in that meeting.
That alone made him a god to the club...
Jax and EZ aren’t comparable at all. Jax being one of the most well written protagonist in tv history alone, squashes any debate or comparisons.
@@JRboy23it really doesn’t. Jax was a good hearted man who fell victim to the corruption of the club. EZ was a smart man who lost himself to the temptation of power. 2 different leaders
@@fatmanzeitgeist816 Yes it does EZ had to kill a girl he only dated for a few weeks to become “dark”. It isn’t natural and is the result of bad writing his character development was rushed for example how he became president soon after he became vp in less than a season
@@JRboy23 that’s the genius behind it. EZ was portrayed as smart from the get go. We see him being used to solve situations the other club members can’t solve while he’s a prospect. Even as a prospect we see EZ diving in to help the club. When he gets patched, we see that growth in him even more only now he’s not just smart, he’s getting devious. He’s getting thirsty for power. HE comes up with the one king plan. HE is willing to exterminate Canche and Ramos even going as far as to say to Angel “I would have killed that kid (Canche’s).” That darkness was always there but the writers did an excellent job of not having it be in your face. The promotion to VP by Alvarez multiplied that for him. EZ killing Gaby (who he starts talking to at the end of season 2 and dates for the entirety of season 3, don’t know where the hell you got “a couple weeks” from) wasn’t EZ going dark. He always had that darkness. It was the writers showing us that now he’s no longer hiding that darkness. It’s completely in your face
It actually made me laugh when EZ made it seem like Creeper was attacking him, it was unexpected. This was overall a better episode of the season for sure.
Episode 2 & 5 10/10
Poor Creeper. All this for nothing
That's a Matter of perspective...creeper ain't exactly the brightest bulb in lamp...he shouldn't have been running his mouth to that ATF chik😅
@@jamalhiley8007he didn’t know she was ATF tho
@@fatmanzeitgeist816 he shouldn't have been running his mouth at all 😂
@@jamalhiley8007 I agree lol he shouldn’t have been spilling club secrets but it parallel real life lol we’ve all said too much around a chick we liked
@@fatmanzeitgeist816it’s true, and we all should suffer for it.
the day creeper let kody/katie in during the NA meeting sadly was the day his fate was sealed he shouldve known, but like she said he was isolated, alone & a wounded animal & he just wanted to feel something, they capitalized and he took the bait & look where it landed him
Creeper was the most loyal mayans of Santo Padre this shows how painful he is when he found that Ez betrayed them
Betrayed them in what way ? EZ never gave Intel or worked with cops and got potter off his back. Bishop wanted his 1 king rule EZ went and killed Ramos and canche and when the sons where coming at them EZ took out Isaac and the SB charter
@@ulisesreyes9343nobody likes EZ every episode he never fails to find a way to annoy me
@@ulisesreyes9343 if you search the word rat in the dictionary it should be a picture of ez. Dont get me wrong i really liked his character, he was really well done and everything but he was literally released from prison to colaborate with the feds. Not only that, he killed the most loyal soldier the mayans had. Creeper took everything on him just to be killed by his brother who he loved and respected. The mayans are ruthless and evil, look what they did to those innocent girls when they tought they are collaborating. Ofc they were gonna kill ez when they found out he is a rat. They wasnt in the wrong, Ez broke the code
EZ never actually worked with Potter, only got blackmailed by him.
I have been thinking about the fact that EZ is alot like Clay. Watching him rise up the club, his story resembles a lot of what they said was Clay's rise to power. This is why I am now investing in seeing him pull it all off. I think that will be what makes Mayans interesting to me. Seeing a golden boy college bound, turn into a ruthless and powerful MC leader. I think if he dies or goes to jail, I think that is Sons all over again. However, if they show how EZ actually ends up fully working and committing to Lincoln Potter (thus getting protection from the Feds). Also, setting up were the Sons MC takes the blame for killing that investigator going after Potter, thus having the full weight of the Federal government come down on the club could be an interesting twist. Through SOA getting taken out, and Miguel being set up somehow as well, it puts Mayans in the position to fully take over. I don't think Angel will survive. He is the more Jax like character in the story. A man caught between two families. I think what will really make the ending sad, is if EZ and his girl ends up raising Angel's kid, basically setting up almost a parallel story to Sons.
Exactly wat I was hoping for something to set it up being different then the SOA series cuhz if eazy dies hoes to jail or loses the club wat was really different
This didn’t age well
Best actor on this show is creeper.
Hes barely acting. Dude actually was a gang banging criminal before acting.
Poor creep. Always the odd one out getting the short end of the stick. Might be used as a scapegoat.
He’s this shows otto
I found it slightly evil that EZ did this I only think this because creeper was one of the few who welcomed him big time , it was a huge shocker for me
He didn't want this but creeper would told that Ez is a spy and that would ruin everything mayans would lost without him
Creeper just sealed his fate, we know how this will go…
Creeper should have waited until Hank visited him.
Like the clip he did he mentioned what Ez promised but basically his whole world came down
Yep agree ....He should of he kept his mouth shut🤐 to literally tell Ez that his ratting him out to club is a dead deal ...Poor creepers didn't think smart...😢
Bruh, Creeper already got a greenlight on him. It was only a matter of time.
Alvarez is...creeper top 3 tho
When EZ said “he’ll bleed for the club,” it had a messianic undertone to it. He became deified after that fight.
The pain in creepers face is hard to see. From what i understand in the outlaw MC world you are not allowed to join if you have EVER been affiliated or worked in law enforcement so rat or not , EZ is in violation of that rule and knows it which means he's still fcked it just sucks that in their MC rules and way of life there is no buande or if and are buts about that sort of thing, to them it doesn't matter if you kill a hundred cops and show that your career as a cop is long behind you , if you were ever law enforcement you are done. So there's really no way out for EZ and its tragic because he truly is commited to the club.
Correct and correct his loyalty to the club makes no sense ...what says he wouldn't rat again if he needed to ...
EZ WORKING FOR THE FEDS IT'S GOING TO BE AND Interesting final episodes
He's not working for a the feds. He was an informant back in s1 just after telling him everything, Ez kills him.
Everybody keeps talking about how dark Ez is and can’t be redeemed but he didn’t even deny the Accusation he accepted it only asking creeper to give him more time to put the club in a better position than when he found it everybody says he’s driven by the thirst for power but I don’t think that’s the case
I found it interesting that he’d tell the rest of Santo Padre that EZ, their leader, was a/the rat. But didn’t mention that Kody was a fed and not to let her around before he even found all that out about EZ.
I mean kody isn’t a Mayan so it really wouldn’t matter she wouldn’t know shi unless creeper said something…said it makes sense for him to get mad at the PRESIDENT over your club
Creeper was dumb for letting him know that he knew. Of course he was gonna start plotting on you so you couldn't give him up. He should've just shut up and told Hank in a later call.
The whole 1st season was creeper, angel and coco working against the club cause it was "in its best interests but the club didnt know it" kind of thing. Now acting fully commited
Don’t forget Gilly was in on it too. Only guys who weren’t were Bish, Taza, Hank, and Riz.
@@Er1c_9 yup u right
Creeper wasn’t with them, it was Gilly, Angel, Coco, and EZ
Creeper wasn’t in on it at all in the beginning actually. It was Angel, Gilly and Coco and they let EZ in on it
Crazy everyone has did some shady shit except for hank he the realest one😂
""But Potter erased the deal"
this is the us government, we never erase records unless it helps a senator or corporation.
Ez got the ending he deserved.
And he took it like a fcking legend
So did Creeper lol. Nobody told him to turn himself in. Should’ve taken the issue to the club. Probably would’ve had Codi slept after that and a done deal.
Hes the clay of the mayans mc 🧐
I think EZ is filled with a “victory disease.” His dark personality trait is manifesting with this victory disease making him a loose cannon & a wrecking ball.
When Creeper revealed that he knows that EZ is a snitch, you can see the hurt and the betrayal on his face. He threw all of his life away for EZ and only to find out that he is a rat and he ends up in solitary so he doesn’t speak to Hank.
Was EZ right to do what he did or was he wrong?
EZ was right to do what he did. He had the vision and ability to guide the club.
The other Mayans just pissed it all away. And hell, Creeper can't claim to be an outlaw saint, as he only got the intel from a fed.
The Mayans are their own worst enemies. Even without the raid, killing EZ would have caused the club to crash and burn.
@@dmi6101
EZ is responsible for everything that happened. He did not have the reputation that Alvarez had, and he lacked the experience to think ahead of the game at that moment. All he had was short-term victories and not long-term ones, and the things that he did were good for the Mayans as a whole, but that does not excuse the two things that he did that go against MC rules and laws.
Does the dialogue also catch your attention? All he goes on about is taking the club to greater heights, ushering in a new era, and attempting to do things that would make the Mayans more prosperous; that is a sign of Custer syndrome, individuals who dream of glory and fame without realizing they're putting those around them in danger and causing them to die in the first episode; that was the initial indication of it. Members in high-ranking positions expressed their concerns and doubts about the plan, and one by one, Mayans began to die, and people began to pull out. That is not a good look for someone who sits at the top of the organization.
@@seth_fitzgerald When they killed EZ, he had just finished the war with the Sons, and had formed a partnership with the Grim Bastards and Iron Wall.
Neither of those will last past his death.
And killing Creeper?
For F**k's sake, they let a new patch kill a Mayan PRESIDENT. They seem to follow the outlaw code only when it suits them. And they screwed every Mayan in jail, when the Iron Wall takes revenge.
Creeper was holding on to something that was dead a along time ago, the Mayans with the exception of Angel cared about EZ's fentanyl money not "morals". Creeper wasn't getting anytime soon anyhow.
Why wouldn’t ez just order a hit on creeper to tie up the loose end ? The way they did Juice with Tullly.
I think there’s already a green light on him because Tuco ( I forget his name in Mayans) said if made one basket he would call the hit off
@@kingque9025He goes by Smoky now.
@@sonicdash761 ha ha!
@ThecoldestPlaya guessing cuz he's associated with a mayan rat which is ez.
Killing creeper won't solve anything, smiley still knows ez is the rat and Kody also knows. Ez is fucked. Someone will find out eventually
If he were smart, he would've agreed to keep quiet THEN let his brothers know...
Ezekiel turned into a sociopathic monster
Ez is very much like Macbeth. This is his banquo
Creeper should of just waited and rang hank
Creeper signed his death warrant here.
It was when he turned himself in. Instead of taking the issue of his lady being a fed to the club. Even tho he already had taken her around there prior to turning himself in. Idk they ruined the last two seasons with rushing everything and leaving a lot of unanswered questions and wasted a lot of storylines. Like Galindo being EZ’s brother lol. That didn’t get anywhere
Taza murders a brother and gets to go nomad but ez only gives info to hurt the cartel and creeper wants him dead?
Now you're getting it lol.
@analyzingmayans Lol my bad wording like I was confused I understood the whole time
They don't know taza killed riz and covered it up.
@@dakotafox7326Bishop does.
Good point.
EZ is a god right now after killing Issac's goon at the meeting.
He can easily spin his informing only on Galindo and chances sre the club will believe him.
Mayans big fan
EZ is good and dead now once the club finds out he's a snitch
Th worst part is he never actually fully cooperated with the feds, which is why nothing ever came of it.
this show went no where and i literally dont understand what was the point of it except when they said Abel and Thomas were riding dirt bikes for now.
Creeper wasn't taking that club anywhere, neither were Hank and Bishop. But they all benefitted from EZ's work. SMH.
Pretty much.
This chapter of the Mayans were impressive morons and hypocrites, starting fights instead of getting paid, and killing their own after he puts them on top (which ensures that they only fall from a greater height).
Ez gonna kill creeper
Hell no this season better not end with the club ok with EZ being a rat…
Exactly I’m gonna be pissed if he doesn’t suffer any consequences 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
EZ will die. Or he will go back to jail and get fucked the rest of his life.
For all the talk of EZ being a rat, he hasn't actually been in communication with the government since the first freakin' season.
Doesn't matter, giving ANY info to feds at ANY POINT is a no no in that world.
@@xbacongrizzler6929 True. And ironically, Creeper did far more damage to the club than EZ, who might have been able to protect them.
Giving ANY info to the feds is a no-no. Joining the club to intentionally be a rat is unforgivable.
@@xbacongrizzler6929 It would be one thing if EZ was already a member and then got threatened to be a rat. A dog on a short leash can pull in the wrong direction. Joining as a rat meant that it was always going to be a death sentence.
If I remember correctly wasn't EZ only peddling information about the galindo cartel?
Yep and nothing can be used against his brother or the mc.
@@analyzingmayans but that won't matter, EZ cooperated with law enforcement, for an MC that's a cardinal sin
@@robertlewis5257Unless he played them, like Jax in Season 3 and 6 of Sons of Anarchy...
@@el_killorcurehopefully the will see it that way. Sadly the only way for ez to walk away clean from this. Is to kill creeper and JJ cousin, who he don't even know about
The only way for ez to save himself is to pin the rat on to creeper. He'll be betraying the club for sure, but it'll save him from being discovered.
How would he turn it to creeper ? He’s a down ass dude for the club always has
@Ulises Reyes Ez needs to find out that creeper was talking to katie/kody. The undercover cop. Nobody in the club knows that creeper was dating a cop.
@@oredixon1276 that is true for some reason I got confused plus it’s not like Ez has the cops informed about the club seeing what him and angel did to potter, creeper is a hypocrite lol
@@ulisesreyes9343 to be fair, he did not know she was a undercover. She posed well as a civilian. She confessed to Neron/Creeper that she was with the feds.
EZ only did it for his freedom. He did not give up the Mayans. The main goal was to take down the Galindo Cartel for Potter and the feds. He never did it obviously which is why Jimenez had to be killed.
Like Lucky said, the feds don’t bust you immediately, they build a case and then come down hard. They already knew all the kills they have done even without EZ’s info. They had every kill down from season 1 up until the middle of season 4
Kody and smiley still knows that ez is the rat so pinning it on creeper or having creeper killed will only turn out worse for ez. He's fucked
This is a poor ending for Mayan, Ez die for inform about Galindo? Like that shit doesn’t even matter no more. Creeper got himself locked up because of a pssy! Also that pssy walked up to bishop and told him exactly what happen to creeper and everything get point at Ez. That’s just stupid…. Bad ending. They rush the ending.
Poor creeper him and Angel best characters
That's why this vato got stabbed 100 times.
His own ratting brothers gave him up.
The communication skills in SOA and Mayans baffles me. The characters speak stuff out loud that would be more vital to their survival to stay hidden and yet refuse to talk about stuff that could have cleared up and prevented a whole mess of problems. Hot take if Taza and Juice just told their clubs about the potential blackmail material their enemies could use hanging over their heads, with Juice's dad being black and Taza being Bisexual. So many problems they experienced could have been prevented.
Maybe, maybe not.
Jax did toss out the old rule of 'No Blacks', but being gay might be a bridge too far for the Mayans.
And well, they are criminals. The clubs try to be about brotherhood, but a weak link is a weak link.
@@dmi6101 Jax tossing the old rule had to go through a unanimous all club president vote first cause it was a bylaw. And because it passed so easily it makes me wonder if it was like one of those bylaws the club just didn't bother changing cause anyone who was black and wanted a part of the life either joined up with a club like the grim bastards or made their own set. Now with Taza. I respectfully disagree, cause first of all him being bisexual had nothing to do with his outlaw skills as sexuality never actually has an impact on ability. He made his way to VP and was a huge earner for the club while also being the reason they had American Indigenous allies and safe spots. Also at the time when it was the most critical, mayans were working on a deal with SAMCRO who's VP was dating a transgender woman. So they probably wouldn't care. The only issue was Paolo of The Vatos. But everyone would have been like who cares there is millions on the table, Paolo either get in line and get over it or we will replace you with another Vato. After all it was 2 MCs against 1 and Santo Padre alone already kicked the Vatos ass once.
I was always annoyed by this greatness that EZ was chasing and others were ranting about. It really killes their motivation for me, as it sucks. The war with the Sons was also a load of crap. They could have made it any other club but it had to feel heavy. So many wasted storylines the lsst few seasons. So many poor resolutions and forced deaths just for the shock factor. So many characters that were done dirty... Bishop was turned into a drunk shadow, Alvarez had this family storyline just to keep the man on the show and draw audiences, Miguel Galindo felt like he had more presence last season where he appeared like 3 times, Isaac was absolutely wasted and they tried waaay too hard to make him psychotic, Felipe was still there just to be killed off, Nestor was downgraded to hell as a prospect. My biggest gripe was Happy - they just brought him back to kill him for the shock, and it felt so forced and redundant - they left the guy roam for 3 seasons, so when I saw him I thought why the hell are they coming for him now? I thought they had carried on and let him live after all that time, but nope - we have to kill a familiar Son. And of course kill Packer off screen as well, because Robert Patrick is too expensive to bring just to lie in a hospital bed dying, but we still need to kill some more known Sons. Thank god they didn't bring Tiggy or Chibs just to waste them too...
And on top we had a totally unneccessary bunch of amazon biker girls that were supposed to be stunning and brave, but felt so dumb and forced.
Ez being an informant back when he was a prospect so irrelevant. He literally killed the fed that he was snitching too. Hes done nothing but kill everyone thats ever been a threat to the club since he became a member.
Finally, somebody sees what’s actually going on
Lmao being a informant in the criminal world is not irrelevant. Regardless of circumstances he made a fucking deal with the dea and fed them information untill a potter told him to kill his cousin… if potter didn’t save him he would of still been feeding information on the cartel or he would of been back in jail and labeled a rat… he was a RAT. You just dont get it it
@@ripper9362 who cares though? Jax teller made deals behind the clubs back. It's literally no different. We already know what ez has done and what he is capable of and what he will do. Regardless of what deal he took he never even gave them any information.
@@chrisrambo8142 every member of every criminal organization ever cares, thats who cares lol rats aren’t toleranted, and yes he was a rat because he gave information on the cartel. Rat lol just killed one of the most loyal members of his own club to protect himself. Rat. Rat. Rat behaviour.
@@ripper9362 Ez has one goal and that's to put the Mayans on top.
EZ got put in a lot of messed up positions and none where his fault most of the time he was cleaning up someone else's mess I feel for creeper but he just didn't know it was so much more to what we had done
1 month ago 😮
man that was so painful to watch xO
Creeper looks like Angél.
Coco sitting above enjoying everything and not having to deal with ez bullshit.
...he's not sitting above ;)
Well technically he already made a deal cause the cop was dirty
He didn’t rat on them nothing he gave up was going to hurt them just the cartel.
Any form of cooperation with the feds is considered snitching. Juice thought he was doing good by the club in soa by working with potter cause they told him they just wanted the cartel and not the club. Look how he ended up.
They don’t care he still worked with feds.
@@sinceredtb3227he killed that particular fed though.
@@chrisrambo8142 True, but if you were a criminal, would you risk the chance of EZ turning state's evidence again?
jax never turn to rat keep 100 percent
Him being a 'rat' was so irrelevant at that point of the series. Just plain garbage writers
Now imagine if jax was stiill alive. The sons & Mayans go to war. Ez ain't ready for that Jax teller smokes.
Ez would mop the floor of Jax. Ez js cut throat which is why he’s a danger to the club
@@Finesser-94 says the kid who didn’t even watch SOA. Ez is a rat and a novice. Jax killed his own mother and went to war against the Irish mob, the cartel , the Koreans etc.. watch the show kiddo
@@Finesser-94 Ez is a danger to the club because he’s a snitch. He looked like a b*tch asking creeper to hold on a little longer .
@@Finesser-94 what ?
Last season was dumb. How did people throughout the prison kno ez was a rat but no one outside knew
He's doing time for murdering a cop then magically gets released from prison.
Whatever.
They fr butchered Ezs arc. Season 4 should've really focused on EZ descent instead of having 5 million subplots. This whole heel turn doesn't feel earned at all.
it is what it is
This clip gave me the same feeling I got watching Juice confession to Jax on what really happened to Tara! Very, very, very Intense, this whole episode was Intense, God I’m goin to really miss this show, ONLY 5 episodes left 😢
The juice/jax scene was way more intense but I agree the creeper/ez scene was nuts!
@@mastadon2268 yeah I agree It was more Intense with Juice/Jax, that was a special scene due to It not being a scripted scene, that was both of them with raw emotion and they just went with It.
Can’t wait until EZ gets got, tired of his ass
wow they made Mayan jus a shit show didn't they in the later season atleast samcro did a lot better jus goes to show you that they have no idea where to go with this show n jus making it a soap opera
ive always hated EZ Once a Rat always a Rat, but this made me hate him even more
Killing the fed that you're snitching too makes up for that honestly. Regardless of what deal he took before he even joined the club, he never told on anyone. This is so irrelevant lol
@@chrisrambo8142 it doesn’t make up for anything he’s a Rat and will always be a Rat he needs to get taken out
Internet tough guy 😂
@@JC-ip8ur keyboard Warrior 🤓💪🏻
@@xfilms2503 "once a rat always a rat" what gang are u in tough guy 🤣
Who did EZ rat out? Last I checked Potter had Galindo, the Club, and Adelita in motion.
He didn’t rat on the club he was ratting on Galindo back in the early seasons. So this whole plot makes no sense.