A Guide To Using A Rotary Polisher/Buffer To Polish Car Paint! + Rupes Rotary Polishing System!
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You have a good way of explaining and showing how you work and figure out solutions. Videos like this is a really good source for information for beginners like me. Love your vids!
Sonax perfect finish was designed to be used on a rotary without introducing holograms I haven’t had holograms with it it’s a one step
Well looks like its time for me to learn the rotary. Thanks for the demonstration Sandro. It really does boost my confidence to tackle this tool.🖒
Clear, concise, thank you for putting this together and explaining it so well.
Wow you do the best videos! So much information that is always spot on!!
I really don't like using firm pads on my rotary, as it makes the machine very hard to handle. Rather use wool for cutting and soft foam for cleaning up.
Agreed !
same here
Agree
@@johnathanjon9339 You’re absolutely right, nobody cares.
I'm new to detailing and I've been through dozens of videos trying to find information about proper polishing techniques. This is without a doubt the most thorough and informative video I've found. All of my questions were answered. Thanks!!
Anyone upset they bought a Rotary and not a DA. Don’t be. A real Detailer will have both. I use my rotary for serious paint correction or a deep scratch. I use my DA for medium to moderate paint correction.
I use my rotary from start to finish every time and my brand new expensive 15M DA is still in the box from 8 months ago
@@Rabbit.760 And if you're polishing glass, there is only one choice: rotary.
@@captainotto I think polishing glass is the one thing I've never done
@@Rabbit.760 Your back thanks you for that. It's a brutal job, but a necessary step for prepping glass for a ceramic coating like Glaco Soft99. And of course there's scratch removal.
@@captainotto oh for coating I just use steel wool for scratches and a quick wipe with acetone. Very unorthodox I know
I'm two minutes in and this is already the best informative video I've seen for polishing.
if you want to geek out some more I suggest watching the Rupes series on obsessed garage
@@mattk1627 Tbh I dont like obsessed garage. I thought he did a pressure washer test wrong and said what he should do, to do it better. Than he said I should be put in front of it and see how I like it...
Damn
I agree with you .. that's the best video I've ever seen
I tried out a rotary for the first time and found it worked pretty well, other than I left holograms finishing, and realized after watching this, I need more finishing stages and less rpm. Curious on how long it'd take for a full paint correction with a rotary vs a da?
Great to hear you first rotary experience went well. There will be instances where a rotary saves time and likewise times where a DA will be more efficient so in my experience neither is necessary always quicker or slower - it depends on many other factors.
Good job.
Rotary is my favorite option for fast corections.
This guy is the Lock Picking Lawyers twin.
Im sitting here realising everything iv done wrong day 1. As a noob i bought a rotary. No wonder why I end up with more problems.
Same here
You sure did mess up.. DA is the best way to go for a beginner to intermediate detailer even pros use them tbh
Not really! Since you already have the rotary, I would recommend getting a small 3" rotary like a battery powered Milwaukee to help learn on. Very easy to control, and the same principles apply to larger rotaries. With the pair, should be able to tackle a huge array of situations.
Always a pleasure watching and learning, thank you Sandro. I first picked up a rotary over 40 years ago. I’ll never say I’ve mastered it but have learned how to work together with it, always learning. Polishing has been a lifetime hobby and possibly thinking about detailing / correction to keep myself busy in retirement. Love your work!
Great info. here, thanks for taking the time. Can't say enough about proper lighting. If I'm mobile, I'm probably out there wearing a dorky looking headlamp! *Very* hard to perfect a surface if you can't perfectly *see* what it looks like!
I tend to always cut with a rotary, and finish with a standard throw DA. Most efficient combo I've found. I find myself using long throws mainly just for one steps as I get more comfortable with the rotary.. 👍👌✌
Can I ask what makes it takes years to master? Seems like it would be straight forward.
Well it’s one of those things you have to try for yourself to get a glimpse into the learning curve needed to not only control the machine to act as you’d like it but also remove defects and finish to a high level - it takes time to firstly get the hang of that and secondly to take that skill level beyond average control and reasonable results to a mastered skill level and outstanding results on difficult to work on paint types and difficult to navigate panel curves, crevices and tight spots on a vehicle. Having access to good information and good training guides is something that many of us didn’t have back in the day, so we learnt the hard way though trial and error. I think it’s easier these days and the machines and products are also way better and more user-friendly so new comers have a much better chance of getter there sooner.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Thank you. I appreciate the well worded reply. I have a milwaukee rotary that I haven't used because of all the talk that it's hard. I need to get a panel and practice on it. For now I'll stick to my orbitals until I get a panel and see for myself what I'm up against.
Thanks again for the information.
Great video, thanks
Best channel ever... Thanks from kuwait
For people who master rotary before a dual action. I can say there’s no replacement for a rotary for cutting and speed. Dual action works but at a slower pace. As any true professional know. You must have both kinds of machines at any shop.
This is the single best and most detailed demonstration of the full correction process with a rotary polisher that I've seen. Excellent explanation for your process, and I especially respect the fact that you took the time to do a test run first; It really does make all the difference, especially with classic cars and older vehicles where the paint and protective coats were not as sophisticated or have worn down over time. A lot of these vehicles can be easily damaged by aggressive polishing methods, especially with all of the heat that rotary machines can create, and this is absolutely indispensable knowledge that will hopefully keep a lot of new paint work specialists and detailers from ruining the finish on their customers' cars. Brilliant work, and you should be highly commended for putting this all together!
Hey! I recommend you watch Yvan LaCroix UA-cam channel. He has great, invaluable info on rotary polishing.
Hi,
Is this the process that you do when you work on any car?
The general process yes, but it can have many variations.
Great informative video. I feel like I’ve been given a crash course in polishing. Every step and explanation was well executed and I appreciate the visuals provided. Thank very much for sharing your knowledge. 💯🙌
I love rotary. But I tend to finish almost always with a DA.
Especially since they easily kill all of the holograms.
Except for last time when I had to polish a Volvo XC40. It was brand new but it was a nightmare to do. I absolutely hated it. I had to finish it since the client got impatient and said it was looking great already and I spend about 50 hours on it. In spite of it being brand new the paint was buttery soft and even wiping it with a MF towel got it scratched and caused me to go back at it again.
did you wet sand out all the orange peel on it? you said brand new ..was it attacked by a band of ally cats?
@@roadstar499 I didn't wet sand the car since the customer didn't pay for it ;-) However the car was brand new indeed. Just from delivery. But you know what its like. It is full of marks and swirls fresh out of the factory. And I had to apply a ceramic coating. And that was hell on this car.
Thanks Sandro, very informative... You never fail to disappoint!
Will you be taking a look at So2Pure? They made some big claims about it but you don't seem to do much business in the smells department 😆
😃👍
people who are saying DA is the only tool to go for paint correction is a complete fool marketing target and relatively new to paint correction industry
Great video Sandro! Thanks for the lesson. Very helpful. In general would you do the heavy defect removal with the rotary and then switch to the DA for final polishing? Are there microfiber pads for the rotary or is it just foam or wool?
Wow Awessome dude love your passion for cars thank you .
Not all polishes will leave holograms perfect finish is designed for rotary
Car Craft Auto Detailing people use it on rupes yellow pad as a 1 step
I think i have found the perfect career for my OCD 😂
Thank you! Youve answered 98% of my questions. Is the first step the one who will remove sanding marks with 2000 grit? Can 2000 griy scratches be removed with 3000 grit and can scratches of the 3000 be removed easily with rubbing compound?
P2000 sanding scratches will remove P3000 ones, and a cutting pad and cutting compound will remove the P3000 marks. How much work/time that takes depends on how well and consistently you sand and compound as well as the hardness of the paint/clear coat.
Crystal clear advice. Just what I was looking for. Good Job!
I didn’t realize Rupes had a wool pad for the rotary. I have that one for the mille. Time to check with my supplier again as I too not a fan of foam on their rotary. Great vid as always 👍👍👍
But the Rupes Blue Coarse wool pad is designed to be only used on a DA, On a rotary is could marr the paint. You were lucky. Please correct me if i am wrong. I am a reseller of Rupes Products.
Yes it’s designed for DA polishers but I’ve used it plenty on rotaries just as I’ve I used many rotary pads on DA’s. The issue isn’t that you’ll mar as long as you have a good base of rotary experience, the issue is that it’s a little harder to control which can be combated with good technique. I’m not saying you should recommend it for rotary use but I am saying it can work great as you hopefully saw in the results which had nothing to do with luck.
Just a simple (perhaps even a stupid question), if detailers and enthusiast are worried about reducing the clear coat on a car during their 'polishing'. Why (finance permitting) not simply ask an expert to add the clear coat back to the car as it were, starting the life cycle again? Not seen a video on any detailing channels where they have decided to take a car or a panel back to it's originating clear coat level then compared it with a detailed polishing stage....
I started to notice good results in rotary but I don't know what are the best pads for it. Now I use rupes machine 50% to take away the haze/holograms
Maybe have a look at these two videos:
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But a lot of detailers tend to get great results from a variety of pads so it’s not always what’s necessary best but what tends to work for you personally.
Thanks for keeping it simple and easy to understand and not over complicating the process!
What a great video.
I love my Rupes DA
Have a great long weekend 🇨🇦
I had more to say but they cut my comment short
Last time I comment
In the end why aren’t you priming the pads? You just apply a string onto the surface, then start polishing with a dry pad?
In my experience you don’t need to hand prime foam or traditional wool pads, they machine self prime in seconds. A good way to judge this is by the user experience, safety, effectiveness and quality of your results 🙂
What are the differences between the da and rotary pads? Is the composition the same just thicker?
The actual foam can be the same for both DA & rotary pads though not always, it depends on the specific pad grade/range. But some common differences can be pad thickness as you mentioned, also squared off edges vs rounded edges and tapered/angled side walls vs almost straight 90 Degree side wall angles. It really comes down to the different movements of DA vs Rotary as to why certain tweaks in pad design may cut/finish better and run rougher/smoother on one machines vs the other.
Also I’ve personally found that most DA pads will work and hold up well on a rotary, while many at least older school rotary pads tend to run a little rough and even get chewed up on large throw DA polishers - but this isn’t always the case.
Just when I was thinking about this you come out with a video. Holy moly. EXACTLY what I needed. Excellent video 👍🏼
whout would happend if you use 1 stage second time? Will it bring the better result?
It will give you increased defect removal but it won’t improve the finish qualities.
Would you recommend an initial cut with a rotary and then finishing with a DA?
Sure, it’s a widely used machine combination that can work great.
Im not a detailer.I do 2 stage paint and own a da polisher and a rotory to finish my work after i shoot and wet sand i break out my buffer and polisher i own 10+pads 2 machines and 10+compounds and polishes/waxes after watching your video i see now.i know very little about finishing my paint jobs.thanks for the info the technique and the information.very much appreciated. Well done
thx for this
ive been thinking. what about doing the heavy cut with the rotary and a second lighter polish with a Da?
Yes, a lot of detailers including myself used both machines at times.
Amazing video man. Great explanation. Been detailing for along time now but always like watching other peoples techniques and explanations
Love Rotary..... You demonstrated clearly the different steps and how to approach polishing/correcting with pads and products... Nice Video..Thanks!
I just bought a cheap rotary polisher to give my car just a quick shine with compound & polish until I’m prepared to correct blemishes in the paint & repaint the sections that are in need of that level of correction. It’s just to make me feel better while driving around. I ordered a variety of 6” pads to keep on hand. I’m not expecting anything near perfection as I don’t want to remove much of the clear coat. I’m thinking a medium pad for the compound & a lighter pad for the polish. Then just a coat of wax to protect as its going to take a couple of months to acquire the paint, clear coat & dual stage polisher. Does that make sense?
Sounds like a good plain!
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Thank you! I’m trying to learn as much as possible from your videos. It’s probably not wise to put so much time, effort & money into the paint on a vehicle this old, but hopefully it’ll help when I go to sell it 🤞🏼
So informative thank you, what are your views on waffel and hex pads. Fantastic vids ive seen a lot but by far you have the best thanks again leo
maybe its just me but i cut with d/a and finish with rotary or straight rotary instead i cut with wool pad and finish with polishing pad and jewel it with wax pad.but maybe its also a factor on what compound i use which is menzerna that has diminishing abrasive.
all of my 25 years being an auto detailer and also doing paint correction with a rotary buffer I could say one thing you do very well I salute you
Super Great video 👌
I love rupes coarse wool blue pad. It cut very quickly and finish good using Menzerna 400 and rotary machine
Your capability to give us top notch quality videos showing us in a real world time with a narrative, has no rival and is undoubtedly the best there is. Thank you.
hello sandro you are a genius greetings from argentina, did you have experience with the lacquer, varnish, clear of any Subaru legacy year 2010? Is it hard, medium, or soft solids paint? Thanks a lot
I don’t think I’ve ever come across a Subaru with hard paint, they do tend to be softer clear coats.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing muchas gracias , sos el numero 1
Fantastic demo sir, respect your kind technical knowledge.
Regards
Fylfot car wash (INDIA)
LoL. I was going to comment..I already have two years ago! My thoughts are the same..great video
Nice video! I personally don’t like rotary tools
Sandro, you are the absolute GOAT! Shotouts from México!
Hi there sandro,please tell me if can i plug the maxshine nano polisher(rotary) on the lh19e?
The conection is an m14 am i right?
From what I know the M14 is standard here in Australia and Europe, but the USA and some other counties use M16 if I’m not mistaken. But basically if it screws on you’re good to go on the LH19E, and if you get both the rotary and the rotary attachment from the same country they should really have matching thread sizes.
Im from Portugal ,i think it's the m14 the standard size, im undecided to get the maxshine m550 rotary to plug the nano kit or in other hand to make the investiment on the lh19e and stay whith a great machine whith one only investiment for the future, thanks Sandro keep charing your videos that provide us know how and usefull tips, thanks, cheers👌
Very excellent video. The text at the bottom helps. I still listen, but if I. Doing screen shots for my notes, it helps to have that text. Nice bonus at the end too. Thank you, sir
Your vids are ALWAYS informative and helpful 👍
Can u correct this panel using da polisher with mf pad for example or the rotary is a must..... Thanx a lot fot great videos
a video on how to polish inside grills and small places without hand polishing cause usely dont help much and takes way to much time. i also tryed the autotriz polisher but i just end up getting buffer trails ofc
Clearcoat defects. Please say clearcoat defects. Paint is paint , clearcoat is clearcoat. You have not removed clearcoat and not polishing base coat.
Guess it is confusing not just me.
Relax bud everyone knows what he means, the defects are obviously in the clearcoat top layer, so he will be removing the clearcoat as he corrects, but the clearcoat is part of the overall paint so it's ok talking about it.
You have Clearcoat Top Layer
Base Coat 'Colour' 2nd Layer
Primer 3rd Layer
Metal Material
Wool pad is the best to remove swirls?am i right sir?
On a rotary wool will be the most aggressive and effective pad to remove defects, but if the swirls aren’t that bad or the paint is soft it’s usually not needed and will also create more holograms and compounding marring - so it always needs to be a case by case scenario.
Use a DA polisher for cutting and medium cutting (2nd step). Use a rotary for final polish
Really informative, thank you!
I've definately burnt into my clear coat at edge on an older car with the bigger 6" inch pad, with rotary.
Totally feel more comfortable with a da, definately more forgiving
It's easy to do for sure, ideally you would want to practice and also using proper technique and edging it makes it much more difficult to damage paint. Investing in a paint depth gauge is also very helpful.
Great video for people who don't get to use rotary, like me. I'm also interested and it might be a cool topic for a video, in knowing how can you use a rotary in some situation to get faster/easier/better result than using only a dual action. In what cases could you start with a rotary and a corse compound, then finish with a D.A a polish (maybe a diminishing one ?).
Even if I use a medium polish like meguiars m210, it will leave holograms?
Not if you use it with a good technique and appropriate pad to finish well.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing paint is still good. Doesn’t really need a full correction, just some maintenance. Meguiars m210 and a ultra fine pad on low setting should be ok?
Should be fine
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing thank you
Absolutely amazing results Sandro! I'm a bit new to paint correction and I wouldn't be brave enough to try and remove that kind of damage, for fear of removing to much of the clear coat. Really insight video and usual 👍
Nice video good explanition :)
the one I used at the rupes seminar locally I found it a little whiney and louder than I liked but it is still a superb rotary regardless of these small things I mentioned. Metabo's PE 15-20 RT is a new one with 18 nm of torque which is alot and 1500 watts. It is a great machine. what is making the mille wool's not last for you, I have had mine since they came out and are still working fine two years later.
Awesome video mate hats off to you really good information for pros and non pros regarding the use of the rotary. 👍🏻😁😁😁 .
Could you be able to show how you tackle really soft paint on final wipe down before applying a coating as some products tend to Marr and haze soft paint when doing final wipe downs . 😁
If you have enough material on the vehicle your good but these new cars don’t put much clear on be careful,you can burn thru no matter what polisher your using
Great video as always. Thanks for the deep explanation and info Sandro. Big hug from Brazil.
How to take the pad holder off I can’t get mines off
There’s usually a button in the centre of the polisher head, you press it and spin the backing plate off - if it feels stuck, use a spanner to help.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing thanks I just did it
Can You finish down with a rotary withOUT trailing marks/swirl marks?
Excellent video, Sandro! As always. Thank You!
Yes you can absolutely can finish perfectly with a rotary
Does a DA direct drive polisher count same as rotary in correction power?
If you’re referring to gear driven or forced rotation DA polishers, they tend to be time saving in both cutting and finishing quite well in a single stage process, but due to their much slower Rpms they won’t tend to cut quite as much as a high speed rotary.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing thank you for replying. V helpful
Great video that explains the process better then any video I have seen to date Thanks for the knowledge
Thanks !
This video is pure therapy. Calming and informative at the same time for my ocd brain lol. 🍻 The results in the end is pure joy and inspires a bit more confidence in using my rotary. - cheers !🍻
So is clay bar not necessary since you went with the course polish?
If the paint has bonded contamination you should always clay or remove it before paint correction
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing thanks for the response
Top video as always Sandro! I’ve picked up the same rotary and it has given me some amazing results so far, but you’ve taught me so much more on the process and results so great thanks to you! I do find it a bit more jumpy than DA though, do you work with no pressure at all or?
As always love your videos. I agree each tool has its merits and shortcomings. Rotary for fast correction and DA for finishing. But the finishing or jeweling from rotary is unrivaled. Having said all these my major problem is power supply. I end up going cordless and rotary. Now that flex has cordless DA bug its way too expensive. Will have to make do with rotary till the prices and options for cordless DA is more available
Thanks for the video. I just purchased a rotary and this has been one the best videos for a beginner like me.
My Makita rotary polisher’s instructions advise to tilt the pad about 15 degrees to avoid the artifacts you had to correct afterwards. The notion that a pad should remain flat is true for dual-action polishers rather than rotary polishers, no?
No, you can certainly increase the pad angle for cutting, but try that for finishing and you’ll have a flawed finish.
U use any pressure for buffing?
Yes, how much will depend on what stage I’m at - usually more during cutting and less during finishing with rotaries
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Their compounds aren’t the greatest on the market I use their pads with other product and get great results I feel like they’re cutting compound dosent really cut much
That's crazy i have used so many different compound and I Love the coarse, it was the only compound able to get a piano black paintjob swirl free
Nice info getting ready for my first three step process
Was wondering is 3M good as rupes 3 stage polish
It’s really been a while since I used 3M compounds, but I think they are really focused towards the paint body shop industry needs whereas Rupes is also focused on the detailing industry needs, so it may be more about where your coming from and your own personal work style and needs.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing thank you I'm just a beggining to learn all this paint correction and I keep running to people who tell me use 3M 3 stage to learn but so far I don't think I could say I learn anything it's not removing any scratches just adding more 🤣 thank you for your videos
Hey man, one question. For the beginner, whats your opinion about polisher to use- 1step,2 steps or 3 steps to start with?
Start with a single step using a fine polish and foam polishing pad. There’s no stress there of doing any damage and it’s a great way to get a feel for paint correction before you move onto more in-depth processes.
I am new to detailing , by far, the best video ive seen, love this!
Rotary Polisher does a better job if you know how to use it,,please dont misinform people
What do you think about using a rotary polisher for defect removal and following up with a d/a polisher for finishing? Love your videos btw
I used rotary followed by DA for many years and still do sometimes to this very day so absolutely, thanks mate
best rotary technique video ever! Huge thanks.
Ima keep it g pimp I probably would have started with the wool 🙄😲😂