Slightly less than 20% of the rounds I received were in my opinion unsafe to fire. They could still be used for other things, and of course it’s surplus, so luck of the draw
@@8mmmauserman using your rough estimate and the total before shipping/taxes, the result is 37.5 cents per round. Honestly still a good deal as far as I could find. I may pick up some if I decide to take a chance on this ammo.
I also just ordered 820 rounds of Turkish 8mm from Centerfire Systems. I'm less selective than you, so only three of the rounds I considered unfit to shoot out of even a bolt-action rifle: 1) Empty case separated from bullet projectile. All the other bullets in the box were peppered with the gunpowder from them. 2) A bullet whose projectile fell out after I applied only a slight pulling/twisting motion to it. 3) A bullet whose projectile was very visibly pushed into the case more than all the others. The overall length was visibly shorter. Yes, you would be a true idiot to shoot any of this ammo through a semi-auto or even an expensive bolt-action gun. You would also be an idiot to look at the rusty, rough, discolored cases and then complain if any of them had problems with hangfires or extractions. This stuff is strictly for target practice and maybe hunting. Never bet your life on it in for self-defense.
Correct. I’m probably stricter than I need to be, but I also tear apart a lot of bullets for my testing. You should try shaking each round though, as some of my rounds didn’t have any powder.
I just opened a case of British 303 ammo from 1944. So it was still sealed for about 80 years. I had it for the last 30 years, but I couldn't stand having it sit there any longer. I'm 71, and I wanted to check it out before I might die of old age. Anyway, the bullets, made in 1944, were still in pristine condition. I have yet to shoot any of it.
I was curious about these as well. Looking forward to the follow up. So far, Ive avoided the ammo collecting bug, to my wallets delight. Mec-gar mags are a great go to and have served me very well. Good video as always.
MecGar is actually the manufacturer for certain brands and not just "after market." I used to work where carrying a firearm was part of the job and using a retired cop's P226. I bought two 18 round MecGars for backup mags and they sit flush and work flawlessly even after being subjected to dirty rivers.
Mine fired well in my video, your batch looks basically identical to what i got. Im excited to see how your batch runs. At least you have reloadable components. Ive got a solid reloading setup myself, and plan to break down the unusuable ammo in my batch
Great video, thanks for posting. I picked up a bunch of the Turkish 8mm ammo from Centerfire Systems as well, lots of wiggly rounds…. So far none are able to pull out by hand tho. Sounds like the loose ones should not be fired? They all have powder in them.
So the rounds that have loose projectiles are perfectly fine to shoot just not in a semi-automatic rifle I fired over 600 rounds of Turkish ammunition and quite a few had loose bullets but they were just fine not very accurate but for plinking it's more than adequate
For sure, and I may carefully shoot these if I need just a couple extra rounds for testing, but since I need to pull bullets for my tests anyway, I’ll just start with those first.
That German ammo almost looks like Romanian with that green tint to the casing. I wonder if Romania copied the steel case idea from Germany(?)Looks rough too! The Turkish ammo I've seen all over for years. Never picked up any. But that's A LOT OF AMMO!! Good stuff👍👍 I gotta get 6.5x55 Swedish. Picked up a Husqvarna made Swedish M38 the other weekend.
I bought some of the Turkish from centerfire systems also about a 50% dud Rate. But still worth it for the components to reload. Sgammo also has Turkish surplus for about 60 cents a round and has run perfectly for me
Good question. From my understanding and experience (which is limited), cracked cases don’t cause any major safety concerns in bolt guns, and especially Mausers, but it will typically make the bolt hard to open, and may send gas back towards the shooter, which is uncomfortable. The real thing I was worried about was either the bullet getting recessed into the case upon loading, which can cause higher pressure, or some of the powder being missing, which could cause a squib inside the barrel.
I saw this video and been putting off the 8mm deal. saw the quality of this ammo then saw your comment. this made me delete the ammo from my cart and buy the k31. thanks to you lol
Sheeit homie, I have over something like... 1,000+ rounds of Turk 8mm. I'd sell you however much you wanted at the cost I paid for it. I don't want to put any more of it through my K98k (don't want to crack my stock) and definitely won't put it through my FN49. Either it sits in the boxes or I find a Yugo M48 or its variant or an M24/47 and I won't pay over $350 for one. 🤷♂️
corrosion on the primer means hangfires and duds are more likely. This is safe as long as you know how to handle the rifle safely if it happens. loose bullets can be risky because if it's really loose, the powder could have fallen out causing a squib, or the bullet could get pressed into the case on loading causing a dangerous pressure spike. I didn't want to risk it with this ammo, but sometimes if it just spins a bit, I don't worry.
@@8mmmauserman Yea, poor quality control and poor storage. Can't expect much from that part of the world. In experience, though, it's always gone bang. The necks just get cracked fairly often.
Thats the one major downside I have found in recent years with 8MM Mauser Surplus Ammo. A lot of it just never held up well. I would probably use the Turk Ammo for reloading components after repriming the cases with non-corrosive primers and powder and just keep the German stuff for display but that is my preference. Also, Check out my channel. Am uploading a video regarding your question on my instagram post regarding loading 8×33 Kurz projectiles in 8×57 cases. Decided to drop a few in cases that couldn't be safely loaded again just to see what would be the result
Exactly why I won't shoot it in my K98k anymore. It'll just sit in my ammo cans until I get a good deal on an M48 or M24/47 (and has to be in good condition), or find someone who wants to buy it.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 , Yeah $279.00 for hand select early M48A from SOG before they went out of business.... Good lil Mauser that's basically a brand new .8mm rifle in cosmoline.... Miss the Trump Times when SGAmmo was selling Golden Tiger 7.62x39 case for $189.00...M-75 Yugo .8mm ammo 900 rds. box case $425.00..... What a difference since Jan. 2021.....smh..
I would like to know the rough percentage of cartridges that you felt weren’t safe to shoot, I am kinda curious because it is
Slightly less than 20% of the rounds I received were in my opinion unsafe to fire. They could still be used for other things, and of course it’s surplus, so luck of the draw
@@8mmmauserman using your rough estimate and the total before shipping/taxes, the result is 37.5 cents per round. Honestly still a good deal as far as I could find. I may pick up some if I decide to take a chance on this ammo.
They were selling 150 rounds today for 33 bucks. I hope the ones I get don’t have a bunch of duds
I also just ordered 820 rounds of Turkish 8mm from Centerfire Systems. I'm less selective than you, so only three of the rounds I considered unfit to shoot out of even a bolt-action rifle:
1) Empty case separated from bullet projectile. All the other bullets in the box were peppered with the gunpowder from them.
2) A bullet whose projectile fell out after I applied only a slight pulling/twisting motion to it.
3) A bullet whose projectile was very visibly pushed into the case more than all the others. The overall length was visibly shorter.
Yes, you would be a true idiot to shoot any of this ammo through a semi-auto or even an expensive bolt-action gun.
You would also be an idiot to look at the rusty, rough, discolored cases and then complain if any of them had problems with hangfires or extractions. This stuff is strictly for target practice and maybe hunting. Never bet your life on it in for self-defense.
Correct. I’m probably stricter than I need to be, but I also tear apart a lot of bullets for my testing.
You should try shaking each round though, as some of my rounds didn’t have any powder.
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Thanks boss!
I just opened a case of British 303 ammo from 1944. So it was still sealed for about 80 years. I had it for the last 30 years, but I couldn't stand having it sit there any longer. I'm 71, and I wanted to check it out before I might die of old age. Anyway, the bullets, made in 1944, were still in pristine condition. I have yet to shoot any of it.
I was curious about these as well. Looking forward to the follow up. So far, Ive avoided the ammo collecting bug, to my wallets delight. Mec-gar mags are a great go to and have served me very well. Good video as always.
MecGar is actually the manufacturer for certain brands and not just "after market."
I used to work where carrying a firearm was part of the job and using a retired cop's P226. I bought two 18 round MecGars for backup mags and they sit flush and work flawlessly even after being subjected to dirty rivers.
Ammo collecting has gotten my wallet a few times 😅
we cant even think about that stuff in Turkey. Thank you for bringing this to us.
Glad to help!
Mine fired well in my video, your batch looks basically identical to what i got. Im excited to see how your batch runs.
At least you have reloadable components. Ive got a solid reloading setup myself, and plan to break down the unusuable ammo in my batch
See you at Tomorrow’s video.
Great video, thanks for posting. I picked up a bunch of the Turkish 8mm ammo from Centerfire Systems as well, lots of wiggly rounds…. So far none are able to pull out by hand tho. Sounds like the loose ones should not be fired? They all have powder in them.
Personally, I wouldn’t, but some people may be interested in the components.
Curious as to the success rate of the Centerfire Turkish 8mm. Like what percentage are duds or hangfires
Check in this Saturday!
So the rounds that have loose projectiles are perfectly fine to shoot just not in a semi-automatic rifle I fired over 600 rounds of Turkish ammunition and quite a few had loose bullets but they were just fine not very accurate but for plinking it's more than adequate
For sure, and I may carefully shoot these if I need just a couple extra rounds for testing, but since I need to pull bullets for my tests anyway, I’ll just start with those first.
That German ammo almost looks like Romanian with that green tint to the casing. I wonder if Romania copied the steel case idea from Germany(?)Looks rough too!
The Turkish ammo I've seen all over for years. Never picked up any.
But that's A LOT OF AMMO!! Good stuff👍👍
I gotta get 6.5x55 Swedish. Picked up a Husqvarna made Swedish M38 the other weekend.
Steel cased ammunition is not that uncommon for the rest of the world especially for the time period.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 ah thx. I don't use it or see a lot of it.
It’s pretty common to coat steel ammo in a lacquer to limit rust, which is sorta what this looks like. Russian ammo is typically copper washed.
I bought some of the Turkish from centerfire systems also about a 50% dud Rate. But still worth it for the components to reload. Sgammo also has Turkish surplus for about 60 cents a round and has run perfectly for me
All the Centerfire stuff has worked well for me so far. You can check out what I shot in my video Saturday.
Wire wheel on your bench grinder will clear that ammo right up.
Probably won’t do that, but thanks for the advice!
@@8mmmauserman Always worked for me. Be well🙂
4:11 this is why I store my ammo in cans with silica packets.
Good call. I keep a bunch in the bottom of my safe, just in case moisture gets in there.
I wanted to get some of that German surplus but Ive heard that steel case german is junk and its all click bangs, if at all.
Check out the video this Saturday where I shoot it and see for yourself!
Could you use the Bad bullets safely in a bolt-action rifle?
Good question. From my understanding and experience (which is limited), cracked cases don’t cause any major safety concerns in bolt guns, and especially Mausers, but it will typically make the bolt hard to open, and may send gas back towards the shooter, which is uncomfortable.
The real thing I was worried about was either the bullet getting recessed into the case upon loading, which can cause higher pressure, or some of the powder being missing, which could cause a squib inside the barrel.
Did you also pick up a K31 from them?
Awesome price, better condition.
I didn’t. I really did think about it though. Will probably regret not
I saw this video and been putting off the 8mm deal. saw the quality of this ammo then saw your comment. this made me delete the ammo from my cart and buy the k31. thanks to you lol
Glad to help.
You can return the favor by telling me where to find a magazine for it.
Sheeit homie, I have over something like... 1,000+ rounds of Turk 8mm. I'd sell you however much you wanted at the cost I paid for it. I don't want to put any more of it through my K98k (don't want to crack my stock) and definitely won't put it through my FN49.
Either it sits in the boxes or I find a Yugo M48 or its variant or an M24/47 and I won't pay over $350 for one. 🤷♂️
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So if the bullet is loose in the case, it's dangerous to shoot? I saw some there with corrosion on the primer. Is that also dangerous to shoot?
corrosion on the primer means hangfires and duds are more likely. This is safe as long as you know how to handle the rifle safely if it happens.
loose bullets can be risky because if it's really loose, the powder could have fallen out causing a squib, or the bullet could get pressed into the case on loading causing a dangerous pressure spike. I didn't want to risk it with this ammo, but sometimes if it just spins a bit, I don't worry.
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I don't believe I would have paid money for those...
I’m actually happy I did, but that’s why I make this videos, so that you guys can pick!
The STRIPPER CLIPS are worth 5 (five) bucks a piece.........
Some of them are in very rough shape, and I did think about selling some of the spares.
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Thanks boss
didnt this stuff try to kill Ian once
The Turkish ammo is overpowered and cracked a stock. Don’t shoot it in anything semi-auto or in pristine condition
@@8mmmauserman Yea, poor quality control and poor storage. Can't expect much from that part of the world. In experience, though, it's always gone bang. The necks just get cracked fairly often.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 You been to Turkey?
@@guaporeturns9472 Turkey? No. Its neighbors, yes.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 I was impressed with everything in Turkey and I hear now they make quality firearms , although I have never owned one.
Thats the one major downside I have found in recent years with 8MM Mauser Surplus Ammo. A lot of it just never held up well. I would probably use the Turk Ammo for reloading components after repriming the cases with non-corrosive primers and powder and just keep the German stuff for display but that is my preference. Also, Check out my channel. Am uploading a video regarding your question on my instagram post regarding loading 8×33 Kurz projectiles in 8×57 cases. Decided to drop a few in cases that couldn't be safely loaded again just to see what would be the result
Will do. I really don't mind the bit of extra work.
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It happens sometimes. Is your real name Bart Simpson?
Watch ya don't crack your stock on the Turk stuff........ be well.
Exactly why I won't shoot it in my K98k anymore. It'll just sit in my ammo cans until I get a good deal on an M48 or M24/47 (and has to be in good condition), or find someone who wants to buy it.
Will be careful. You be well as well
@@SonOfTheDawn515 , Got a mint 48A and eats Turk ammo.. Yugo stock is a bit beefer.. On my chrony does over 3,000 per second..
@@MegaBait1616 Yea, I used to have a Yugo M48A. I miss it. Doubt I'll get another like it (straight from storage so perfect) and under $300.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 , Yeah $279.00 for hand select early M48A from SOG before they went out of business.... Good lil Mauser that's basically a brand new .8mm rifle in cosmoline.... Miss the Trump Times when SGAmmo was selling Golden Tiger 7.62x39 case for $189.00...M-75 Yugo .8mm ammo 900 rds. box case $425.00..... What a difference since Jan. 2021.....smh..
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