2021 Polaris Indy 650 MATRYX VR1 Full Snowmobile Review
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Motorhead Mark presents his impressions of the 2021 Polaris Indy MATRYX VR1 featuring the all-new and ultra potent 650 Patriot engine.
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Does anyone ever take the body panels off and actually do a technical review? There are plenty of gearheads out here that would like to SEE how they're MADE !!
Noted! I'll talk to the guys about doing this in future reviews and/or walk-around vids.
I agree.. was looking forward to at least some visuals of panels removed while he was mentioning the serviceability of it.
@@cannedham3774 ya seemed like a no brainer to do so. I was a little surprised they didnt tbh.
Good comment. I wanna see how long it takes to add oil and get to the spark plugs.
@@alistairbalistair9596 We actually have never done that in a TEST RIDE segment so if you're familiar with our show it wouldn't be that surprising. Something we can do in a UA-cam walk-around when we can take a bit more time with the presentation and there aren't time constraints for TV.
This is one machine i would love to take a rip in. Great review
Thank you!!
I think 135-140 hp is about perfect for trail riding. I have a 700 Dragon and a 700 Fusion, which are in that power range and I ride with mostly 800’s and 1100 Turbo Cats. I never feel that I have inadequate power to keep up on the trails and even if I jump on their sleds mine don’t feel underpowered when I get back on them. This 650 with its superior gas mileage and cheaper insurance is probably the sweet spot for trail riding. When I replace one it’ll almost surely be a 650
I can tell what the sled of the year is going to be. Polaris switchback assault matryx
We’ll see
@@EthanAdey AJ said it was perfect and that's impressive but I'm getting a bit tired of only Polaris getting sled of the year
@@alachon205 they usually get it since they are funner to drive. Lighter and more power makes them more enjoyable, but Polaris lags behind in reliability compared to Bombardier or Yamahas.
If we would see more long term testing (over a few years) the results might be different as they would have to count reliability.
They really do need to categorize sled of the year. Mountain, trail, crossover categories at a minimum to make it fair. There is not 1 gold metal given out at each olympics.
@@PartikleDestroyer Si true the current format is unfair I can't remember when a mountain sled won
Great review! Loving my VR1 650, that motor is so smooth and impressive and a blast to ride on the trails.
Right on!
Smooth heat exchangers do not work near as well as the old finned ones.
My Axys 850 Assault has smooth heat exchangers and never seem to have an issue cooling it....
I wish they would have explained why going to a smooth exchangee is better after they mentioned it.
Less ice build up to insulate or block coolers and they now use aluminum tunnel protectors for when u stud track so u don't loose heat exchange thru plastic protectors, normal temps are now 100-110deg while riding
I don't know if the machine sells itself... or you are selling the machine... But it sure makes me want one! Nice job! Now gimme one!
Nice sled I would say 135 hp but it’s a 650 not a 600 so it should
700cc here we come, again.
Ski-Doo should release a new 700cc! That would be wicked!
@@ryangenge5970 just buy the 850 and get it over with
Buy the 850 and be done with it lol what’s 2000 more dollars
If they put one in a Pro RMK 155 with the 2.75 track I'm buying it. But they have a history of putting lesser tracks on the 600 RMK, so I expect this to be another fail with an old obsolete track that I won't buy. Just give me the options I want and you have a sale Polaris. Don't treat the smaller engine class like a lesser sled. For people who can really ride, the smaller engine makes it a superior sled. You ruin that if you put an old track on it.
As always an amazing review by the you guys. Polaris has absolutely crushed it with the Matrix. This is coming from a Ski-Doo fan. I have sat on and played with the screen on both ski-doo and Polaris platforms, the Polaris hands down is more comfortable and the screen is way better and easier to use. Purchasing one for next year for sure!!
I'm glad Mark didn't bring out his crazy thesaurus for this review, makes them much more enjoyable when he talks like a normal person.
LOL I'll pass this along to him.
We didn't get Kevlar Lake, but the "drivers perch", lol!
Ha! Was going to ask ... Can it pull c-notes down kevlar lake?
10% more hp than the old 600, so its about 5hp more than the Doo, should be top dog in that class, look forward to riding one if we ever get snow
i would like to see a dragrace or just a dyno battle between them. The Doo 600r on dyno makes about 133 hp and thats out of the box while ski doo only claims 125hp
@@sniff1197 link to the 133hp proof?
can you clarify what you posted, on the another page you posted you seen 1 blown up
My honest opinion.... should of made it a 600, or a 700. 650 is NOT a 600 class sled, and can’t be raced as such. Which is why people are still racing the xcr600, rather then the vr1.
Though I feel it would have been awesome to see a true 700 class sled back on the market.
I'm a 4 stroke guy but if I were to get a 2 stroke, this would Definitely be the one! Amazing Machine 👍🏻
Competition is great. Now let’s see what comes out of Quebec. Saw a few doos being tested in revelstoke a couple weeks back. 600 turbo he said, but was he lying?
talk to me when the prices get back to a more reasonable 7500-8500 range, sleds are not worth the prices they are going for nowadays, need to get back to the basics without all the fancy crap that ends up costing you valuable riding time on already short snow seasons
agreed... I bought a new 800 in 2014 and recently started thinking about a new 2021... the prices blew me away. Even the bare bones sleds and smaller cc'd ones are ridiculously priced. I wont be dropping that kind of coin for new and will have to be happy for used.
@@alistairbalistair9596 yeah its crazy with the prices, sometimes there are great deals that pop up once in a while, There was a dealer in minnesota that had a brand new 03 xc 800 non current for 5995.00 I missed that deal
Then u will have to go back 15yrs ago. U can still buy base model sleds in the 10k range, but u don't get suspension or performance, u also make 5xs more then 2006
@@destroytheilluminati770 who would buy a 03 chassis sled now a days for a main trail sled 🤣 stop it
Arctic Cat is pretty much out of the picture at this point with no 850/650 option.. sad really.. They should put out a new triple..
Curious as to why you think 50cc really makes that big of a difference. 90% of people who buy these sleds don’t use their sleds even remotely close to its full potential. The only time I ever went to groomed trails, I brought an 04 Polaris 440cc race sled. You would not believe how many salty clowns were passed on their 15 thousand dollar 800cc sleds.
Thanks for the review Mark. Enjoy watching your guys reviews on the new sleds. Nice work polaris on making a great looking sled. Can’t wait to buy one!!
Awesome! Thank you!!
My 850 VR1 is just incredible. Pumped to put some more miles on it in Northern WI this weekend. Only 150 on her so far.
How are the trails up there. Going up next weekend
@@10rBrah UP was awesome. Recommend going up to Gogebic in MI. I have 650 miles on the sled now
Great video Mark but the Matrix side panels and hood need to go back to the engineers for a proper refit other than that excellent sled
eh my 600 etec pulls hard enough for me
p.s. still sick though
But is it hard enough for her is the question
@@LiamG903 ugh... lame
@@alistairbalistair9596 awe muffin
Lame, must be retired
Only Polaris would brag about a 10% increase in power when they also increased displacement by an almost equal amount.
I'm way more interested in how much have they closed the gap between them and Doo when it comes to build quality. That's the biggest difference in the two market leaders
Build quality is there, still not as good as doo in the plastic quality, scratches very easy, wheel bearings are still gonna be a problem cause no caps on wheels and they are much smaller then doo, seat latch sucks, seat falls off if u don't watch how u slide front in, shocks still not properly valved for a 200-230lb average rider thats about it
@@kwmiked thanks for the info. Glad to see Poo is narrowing that gap. I plan on getting my hands on new 650 to test ride and then wait til March to spring check.
Hard to believe we are only 6 weeks away from new sleds when some guys still dont have miles on their new ones from this year
Great review, professional camera and audio work. Good to see Mark again!
Great presentation
I wish they would have explained why going to a smooth exchanger is better after they mentioned it.
I thought that was odd as well. Fins provide a lot more surface area for cooling and more rigidity. It’d be interesting to learn the reasoning behind the change to smooth.
i love my 650 launch 137 so much more then my 16 600 pro s 137
What a gorgeous machine! Nice overview as well sir! Thanks guys
Thanks for watching!
Wow...140hp in a 650 and I thought my 1200 doo with 130 was fast.
it's not 140.. it's 131.2.... it's torque is impressive at 87 ftlb from 7250 to 7950 rpms.
I would like to see it race a 1200 4t
132hp
@@colekreger7825 why, no comparison
Interesting. Now what does this marvel of human technology going to cost us poor troglodytes?
Always here for some Mark reviews!
Sled looks awesome .... how come you always have frozen ice patch under your lower lip?
As u get older u loose vision while looking in the mirror, u should see the hairs growing outa nose and ears
You made me want 2 one for the daughter and one for the wife!!
It's funny when customizing the 137 Indy VR1 and the new 146 switchback on Polaris's website, the VR1 with all the same add-ons will cost you more money than a switchback. Personally I don't see why since it has a smaller track and tunnel you think it would be cheaper, but I guess it would be better for trail riding? I'd just save some money and ride a switchback cause it allows you to have more confidence going on and off trail.
Pure trail sleds always coats more
Switchback Assault u talking about? Switchback is the old ProXC chassis with external shock
Rear skids are also different uncoupled on 146 for more off trail get the nose up outa snow, the 137 Matryx is coupled, whats the difference 100-200$ who cares at 15k
How does it soak up the big bumps is it anything like the XRS
Can't compare it to the XRS, but my GF just bought the Indy 650 launch edition. From what I've experienced, it handles big bumps pretty decently, but definitely feels like it's really front heavy going into one (I'm used to my SKS 850)
Its not a XRS, Its probably similar to a X , next yr XCR or whatever they call it will be more XRS, But Polaris give u decent shocks u can revalve if u need to make it stiffer, which most likely a 200+guy will have to do for the wooped out trails. Front end is pretty Decent, rear valving is a bit soft maxed out for big hits
when you grow up on a gen2 Polaris, you die on a gen2 polaris..these horses are competing with other rigs that need more parts to play the part? no offense to my Polaris, but these aren't just the same...at all.. sorry if I'm too old school 🤦♂️ hope y'all are safe
I would love to hear what it sounds like when you turn the key. My 2018 XCR 800 starter sounds like some ball bearings flying around in a tin can. My buddy’s 2018 Renegade 850 starter sounds waayyyyy better, like a German BMW engineer designed it. Also at idol, how do they sound?
Noted! I'll mention to our team for future videos.
I’ve noticed that over the years. 3 of my friends have have 800s over 3 models and the starter sounds awful compared to my friends 600 and 800 doos. Can’t give any reviews about cat 2 stroke starters since all my cat friends ride the 4 strokes which always sound good IMO.
Starter sounds like this cause they mount is on right side of motor and it uses a flex shaft over to ring gear on clutch, keeps the sled more balanced and other parts of motor accessible when working on it, yes the 15-20 800s were noticeable louder, the 21 is a bit smoother, definitely not like a direct mount etec tho
Didn't see an awful lot of poo-bias in this one lol. My buddies parents work for polaris and they always bring home the newest sled from poo at the beginning of the season. Not a big fan of the VR1 looks tbh, but 140 hp out of a 650???? Thats nuts! Great review
Arctic cat had a similar HPfigure with the F7 back in 2003. I'm guessing its emissions and fuel economy were far worse, though. 2000 SRX made similar power as well around 140 hp. Those are a both 50cc larger, but this also doesn't quite make 140 hp. That's not a bad thing though, I think this is awesome and is right around the perfect hp and will likely last longer than the 850s.
U obviously haven't seen one in person or riden one, definitely better then a picture
Its 132hp
@@kwmiked my best friends dad works at polaris, gets the newest model every winter to try out and test ride ALL season. Ive already rode with them for a weekend and tbh looking head on the VR1 is as ugly as the IQ chassis in my opinion.
Nice review Mark. Cheers
Thank you!!
No torque stop plate????????? And how are they mounting the engine mannshow us under the hood!!!!
They're charging $20.000 for these things here, they've gone totally whacko...
Just found the channel. Good stuff, any chance you could throw in a suggested msrp for the reviews?
Me sitting in South Dakota/Wyoming with no snow
ND as well.
Stop telling fish stories!! It's peaky. 131 HP for only 200 rpm's. You gotta have your clutching right on!
Most of the RPM range isn't usable.. 7500 rpm it's 117hp. But at 7550 jumps to 121hp. and holds 127 for more of the rest of the RPM's.
It's torque is impressive at 87 ftlb from 7250 to 7950 rpms at 7000 rpm's it's 76 ftlbs.
sadly numbers sell sleds... guys will be out buying this thing for that reason alone. Id much rather a sled engineered to have good mid range grunt.
Polaris is not listening to the industry ... it is not a new chassis that they need, but a complete line of 4 stroke engines for the limits of the trails at 70 kilometers hours, even if we cheat a little bit... Welcome ProStar 999 🎉🎊🎁
Umm they did listen, they wanted an engine with the benefits of the four stroke, and the benefits of the two stroke. And that’s the 650 engine, do some research 🙄
I love Mark’s reviews.
Thank you!!
Great review Mark!
Thanks Lenn!
Might be a stupid question but where I ride a 146 track is small! So how can they classify the new snowmachine as a (deep snow) machine
146 is a 50/50 on/off trail sled, not a deep snow classified sled. Idk where u got that from?
Great review the 650 is a great motor so far. A little light on mark'isms tho
“Tighten your chin straps” was right at the beginning.
@@PartikleDestroyer haha thats true
LMAO!!!
Great review of a great machine.
Thanks 👍
Are the snowcross guys racing the matryx chassis yet? Seems like gamechangers don't come along to often in racing but if this thing corners like everyone says then it may be a snowcross gamechanger.
Nope, still running the a modified AXYS chassis.
@@dathanchevli7514 thats surprising, i figured those guys would have gotten it first and been running it since last year
@@rgr798 honestly would not be surprised if the axys was a superior race chassis. No one ever says how the matryx is better besides “handles good”. Suspension set up makes a much much bigger difference then people think. This new and improved handling could all be do to some more refined shock settings and A arm geometry (race sleds use completely different linkage parts anyway). And what these guys think is a good chassis is something comfortable and “fast” while driving like my grandmother, that does not mean fast while racing. But that is all speculation, but honestly probably not far off considering the race sleds don’t use the matryx
@@dathanchevli7514 I get what you're saying, makes sense man, thanks for you input
@@dathanchevli7514 it’s only an Axys in looks, underneath it’s still a tried and true IQR. The tunnel is now longer and different, new 136 rear skid and they added EFI to the motor but it’s a modified and updated IQR which is a good thing. Lots of backwards parts compatibility and set up familiarity.
I want one!
No way in hell that thing makes 140hp their 800 barely makes that
800 is 154-157 650 is around 130-135
Thats a sharp lookin sled.
Great job Mark !
Thank you!
Is matryx the chassis and VR1 the engine package?
Matryx is the chassis, VR1 is the trim package
So for the same price I can get an ski doo 900 4 stroke turbo and never smell like gas ever again!
Its not snowmobileing unless your coat smells like gas.
It's the smell that gets me up in - 40
is that the 137?
What is the name/artist for the first song in the vid?
who cares? just find any awful 90's grunge song. they are all the same
I'm ordering one but I can't decide on track length, this sled will be used 99% of the time on trails, could you please tell me the track length on this sled? Also if you have an opinion on the type of track.
My GF bought a Indy 650 launch edition with the 129 Cobra track. I'm assuming the one in the video is similar. For trail riding, 129 is perfect! Handles extremely well on trail, and is somewhat decent in powder (i tried it in about 8 inches, gets stuck easily if you lose momentum). Also handles ice pretty well in my opinion
I’m telling you you want to go off trails I thought I was a trail guy to
@@butternation9324 for sure! Going back country isn't for everybody, but just messing around in a field is fun once in a while, and the Indy struggles with that
buy a 2 inch paddle track. I put these on my short track sleds and they are miles better off trail.. and on trail they are good too. They dont slide all over the place at all and dont let go around corners. Dont let anyone tell you they do.
@@butternation9324 I should have said I have two off trail sleds, AC High country and a Bear Cat for ice fishing and hunting, I live in northern Michigan.
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XRS 600R vs VR1 650 129? The advantages of the VR1 are clear - power, handling, ride quality, gauge, LED lights. But torn on build quality, reliability, and engine efficiency/run quality.
Build quality seems pretty good so far, and run quality is alright. My only issue is that for a trail sled, it still tends to get hot easily
What's the song 😂😅
who cares? it's awful
My 2019 liberty 600 got better mileage than my 2020 gade 600r.
Sweet! You can impress everyone in a dollar store with your savings!
@@matbob7249 Right over your head pal.
@@dsm091 😂
@@matbob7249 it is just stupid they always talk about mpg. I mean who freaking cares. Cheapest part of the sport is the petrol.
@@dsm091 until your range is too short for the trip
all you guys talk about is power and speed. speed limit on the trail 50 km/hr.. can you do dome videos of economy sleds. you know the ones we can afford. not every one can buy a 20000 dollar sled
Where do you have a 50km/hr limit? Here its 55mph
I would agree that it does looks mean. And the new 650 engine. Well time will tell. In the past all 4 companies have gone up in CC’s for awhile but eventually come back down to the norm of 500-800cc engine. And I can see this one going that way, back down to 600 in 5-8 years.
As for body work their just following Doo there. Surprised it took them 5 years to do so.
Only Skidoo fans think this sled looks like a G4. It looks nothing like that hideous duck bill thing. Polaris did a great job on the matryx despite having a very nice design already in the Ayxs!
@@pajamatime5750 I only think the lights do
Never said it looked like a G4.
I ment Polaris copied Doo in narrowing all the plastics from back to centre to front of sled.
@@pajamatime5750 it doesn’t look like a g4 in fact nobody thinks that it looks like an older doo.
@@kyledejong8816 I literally just said it looked like an older doo.
1200cc triple in a modern sled when? It could have more power, be more reliable while barely weighing more.
For what? To have a overweight unplayful sled like a skidoo 🤣
@@kwmiked I'm not a Skidoo guy but they aren't heavy, around 500lb is not much.
@@RamenPoweredShitFactory whatever u think. Thay are unplayful tanks