Levi, I love your videos and your joyful personality, Polaris is very fortunate to have you represent their product. I've been snowmobiling since 1987 at which time I started riding a Polaris Indy Trail and continued riding Polaris until '93, '94 and '95 when I rode Cats then went back to Polaris from 1996 through 2000. In 2001 I made the switch to Ski-Doo and have been riding them for the last 22 years. I was able to do a 200 mile test ride on a friend's 2022 Matryx 850 a few weeks ago in northern Wisconsin and was simply blown away with the sled. All of your assessments in this video regarding the chassis is spot on (I haven't ridden a 650, yet) and are the same findings I experienced, 100%. Polaris absolutely knocked it out of the park with the Matryx. I've owned 27 new sleds in my life so far and I have never ridden a better handling sled than the Matryx. They're so easy to drive, the steering is light, the ergonomics are perfect, awesome seat, the body panels are sculped perfectly for outstanding wind protection and the narrowness of the seat/tank area along with the lightweight and the nimbleness makes it feel like you're riding a dirt bike. It's amazing how effortless the sled is to ride and the fun factor is totally off the charts. As you can tell, I was more than impressed with the Matryx and after 22 years on Ski-Doo I just ordered a '24 XC 850 137" from Bill in Stratford, WI (my 7th Polaris from Bill). I can't remember the last time I was this excited to get my mew sled!!!! Anyway, keep up the great work on your videos, I absolutely love watching them and I appreciate what you do for the sport of snowmobiling and how well you represent Polaris. Maybe we can hook up for a ride with Jeff the next time you're in the Mosinee/Stratford area, LOL!!
Thank you for the note. I'm glad you enjoy the videos and if you have any ideas for videos you would like to see us make, please let us know. Congratulations on the new sled! you are going to love that sled, I know I sure do!
Great review, I also got to ride one in January at the ambassador ride, the 650 is going to surprise quite a few people next season for sure, the Matryx platform is the best that I have ever ridden.
It's great to watch you leaning and showing people how it's done. The majority of people I see these days don't even know how to lean, they just sit on the seat and bend a little. The stander uppers are the worst, they go so slow around corners it's ridiculous. They think they're going fast because the wind is hitting them I guess. Usually they stand straight up and lock their knees, totally defeating the object of standing in the first place Jeremy and I were riding along a slightly bumpy trail in the U.P.. 44 to 50mph , came up behind a group of guys, all standing up, all brand new sleds, 30mph slowing down to less then 20 around corners. The back guy kept slowing down almost to a stop then pounding the throttle and throwing snow all over. After a few miles I couldn't take it anymore and passed them all one at a time wherever I got a space. Only the back guy let Jeremy past, so at the next road crossing I went across then waited for Jeremy to get around them. The front guy comes up and stops partly blocking me and starts coming at me with his hand out for me to stop. I flipped him off and we blew out of there. These are the type of people who think they're qualified to judge how good something is or how well it handles. They ALL turn good at 20mph! They need to get the hell out of the way, a 14 yr old kid on a 4stroke Yamaha wants to get through ! So Levi, please use your knowledge and have in the industry to help teach these people proper riding and etiquette on the trail. Thanks
I love how calm and collected Levi is. Even though he's a badass. Makes me want to be more like him. I notice how much I swear when I listen to him talk 😂
Thanks for the review Levi! Already spring ordered my 850 VR1 137. I got the opportunity to sit on a demo at my dealership here in norther Illinois last weekend and I couldn’t believe how natural the seating position was, I knew it was gonna be good! So stoked for next season already!
Rode 2 weekends ago up in the north shore. Glad to see your up in the Lutsen/ Grand Marais area. Thanks for the video Levi. Hope to see you up there sometime.🤘🤘
Nice review, thanks levi. Polaris never ceases to amaze me. People say, can the axis be top'd ..... i say if it can it will be polaris to do it. Guess what? They did it. I can honestly say, im a proud polaris guy from deep down. 😊
Try the 21 xrs aswell as the matrix in the same say if you can. The new ras x front end is definitely better than the Polaris. The rear end the doo is for sure better. Polaris is good but not quite there with doo yet.
Hey Levi if I could ask when you did that Urban snowmobiling in st. Paul brother I thought you broke the internet when I seen that video I shared it on Facebook everybody loved itgoing up the spiral parking garage throwing Sparks but all the epic jumps and everything you did in that video I'm so glad you got yourself a UA-cam channel that I know about now because I think I've seen all the Red Bull videos that you are in I have turned so many people here in South Carolina onto your videos in the last weekthey see how excited I get and it brings them Joy because there ain't no snow down here I'm originally from Indiana I'm 49 I have ran a handful of sleds but nothing near as cool as what you rideI just can't say enough Levi I'm just a big supporter brother and I'm just glad to see all these videos 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👊🏼👊🏼💯💯🇺🇸
Roy! I love your energy and I really appreciate your support on You Tube and in general! When I was a kid I fell in love with snowmobiling and dreamed of becoming a professional snowmobile racer. I couldn't have imagined where snowmobiling would take me and how many great people it would introduce me to! Thank you for being one of those great people! Keep doing what you are doing! #positiveattitude
@@Levi_LaVallee thank you so much Levi your comment means the world to me brother more than you could ever know I seen it last night and I had to share it with my girls they said that's freaking awesome pops nothing but big love for you and your family Levi thank you so much my good brother❤️💯💯🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏼👍🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
I was focused on your riding position into the corners AND then you mentioned it during your 'first impressions'. THAT is a huge difference in the body English. As a shorter rider I can rip the heck out of my 600 Cat but the acrobatics takes an energy toll! I'm sold just undecided on Indy or Assault.
What is different in the chassis or suspension from a Axyss that makes it corner better? Can I still get a rack and saddle bags for my camping? I hope so . I don’t see my previous comment on this and my Pro S set up is the best hit tent trail sled in the industry. This is so important to me, it reinvigorated my happiness in riding. Now I have a base camp to extend my range and areas of fun. 25 years of Polaris loyalty here 😊❤️🇺🇸❄️☃️🛷⛺️
Mobile Winter Camp I think I just replied to your other account- Lord Marshall? I want to know more about the hot tent... I’ve done a lot on snowmobiles, but never camped!
Oh snap if it's running too good you know how that goes man LOL it's always fun to watch you ride man I like the way it looks even better when it's up in the air cranking Willy's👍👍👍👊👊
haha That was when I was riding the 96 XCR 600. Hearing the triple wide open for a bit sounded "too good" and I didn't know what it was jetted so I switch to the few second burst throttle haha
@@Levi_LaVallee hahahaha... That is just too cool man brother you have done so many amazing things on a sled you have raised the bar for a lot of people we get started on your videos and we just can't stop watching 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Do the Back to back next, a lot of us are questioning buying this since they never offered a XCR 137 in solid tunnel, so guys with a Switchback are questioning if the VR1 137 is as good as a XCR Switchback 137 in the old pro XC chassis. Show us how panels come off also. We cant go see these now since all the shows canceled
Kwmike-D we did! Next week- AXYS indy XCR 129 , SWB 136 XCR, XC137. 4 guys riding all the sleds back to back over the same conditions..... VR1 Matryx is unreal on the trails!
Got to ride the 21 xrs late this winter. Its definitely better than the matrix. The new ras x is definitely more planted than the Polaris, the 850 doo is definitely ahead in the engine department too.
Steve Kerns fortunately it was in the high 20s low 30s when we went riding so the short windshield wasn’t bad.... but I’m getting at least the mid windshield on all my trail sleds for my face. They have medium and a large windshield which coupled with the new wind deflecting body panels it should be warmer than the AXYS
Levi nice review, now you have me guessing on the 850. I currently have a SBA 850, could I ever be happy with a 650? Will that 650 compare at all with the 850 arm pulling fun factor ? Also, If you rode at night, how does that headlight compare with the Axys? Thanks
I can already see that it takes the turns better then my indy xcr..I do find my xcr a bit tippy ..but it keeps you on your toes lol and is a blast to drive..it looks like the vr1 would be fun as well..can't wait to see them head to head..
The Indy XCR was my trail blaster this season! If I was going on a hard trail ride I took the XCR, but after riding the VR1 back to back, I'm a VR1 believer! the VR1 is so stable and connected to the trail, you can straight up boogy on it!
I want to start racing Cross Country races at age 59 .. They limit the displacement to 600 CC's adding 50 cc's and lowering the compression so it can run on 87 Octane was a good idea for trail riding but maybe not such a good idea for racing Cross Country ..
@@Levi_LaVallee ua-cam.com/video/VcQz7-1P1XE/v-deo.html I learned a new skill set today, so maybe I can get experience and have a retirement gig. Really enjoy your vids, and family connection. I have a PART TWO of this video, just posted. Take care sir. Be safe, your family needs you. You already made your mark in history, God bless LaVallee family.
So wondering what there plans for XC and SX racing then with the extra 50cc? Sleeve that motor down or maintain the current 600 line to meet class regulations?
The last sled I rode was a polaris xcsp 600 and I broke my arm lol. I'm interested in getting back into it. I like the indy xc 650. However I'm undecided between the 129 or 137 and which track I should get. I'd mostly be ditch banging but I also enjoy getting into deeper stuff (when I can find it, which is rare these days in my location)
I rode my Fathers 1976 Yamaha Exciter quite a bit .. Was a Skibum for years my first sled was a used Polaris '92 Indy 500 with fuel Injection my First new sled was a 2006 Yamaha Attack second sled was a 2014 Skidoo Renegade 800
@@Levi_LaValleevery good little sled... i live in quebec home of ski doo and i drive polaris sled over 30 years....polaris always made better sled than bombardier.....
All the above, I live in Idaho and I travel to visit friends such as (Kentucky, Oregon, Montana, Canada) I use my rmk pro for nasty stuff, but need something that's great for racing, on/off trail, need very versatile at it's best all around performance to would be great to for something that can handle it all. Hopefully this will give you a idea of what I need.
I hope you’re right Levi. I trust you’re word bit like every Rush or Pro-S owner I’ve met, I’ve owned both, that uncoupled sled corners the best period. If this surpasses or at least matches that, I,l be happy. Those sleds are obviously being fazed out, and owners are nervous about getting new rigs in the future. I better be able to still get a rack and saddle bags for my hot tent camping set up or Polaris will answering up to a angry 25 year loyal customer. 😊❤️🇺🇸❄️☃️🛷⛺️
Lord Marshall The video coming out on Thursday will be helpful for you. We put the VR1 up against the SWB XCR with the pro XC rear suspension, Indy XCR, 137 XC with multiple riders , testing different sections. Good feedback from all the riders. Now tell me more about this hot tent? Is it what I am envisioning it is?
So is this matryx chassis finally something will keep up with the edge chassis’ in the woods. I have yet to ride a sled that will run corners as fast as a 600 edge
Polaris with the presentation of the 2021 models, why do you think they removed the possibility of commenting on UA-cam. Can snowmobilers answer me here ...The only manufacturer to have done this ....
The 650 has great power! The biggest issue is getting traction to wheelie. If you have a bigger lug track and some weight transfer set up in your suspension.
I dont see pro taper handle bars, that's shitty. I really like the feel of the SE protapers on my 2019 assault 800. If the 650 motor proves reliable, I might have to buy one for my wife.
Since you're in MN, shouldn't be too hard to find ya if I think my '22 VR1 650 is a turd, hopefully Polaris is on top of snow check orders this year and I have my sled for the couple snows we might get. Had an old wedge until last yr, a worn out edge the yr before, keeping my Widetrak LX that is unstoppable in more than 1 way. Really wanted to get a Grand Touring G4 900 turbo, trusting the Polaris Embassadors the 650 Matryx will be better.
Hey Levi! Love your videos bro, keep up the great work. I am really diggin' what Polaris is coming to the table with since coming out with the XC-R last year and now this? Wow! What is the track length that you can get with this machine? Also, please compare this 650 up against the XCR and the xc 137 and let us know what you see in the difference if you get a chance! Thank you for your videos!!
Thank you! You can get the Matryx platform in 129, 137, 146. My next video is VR1 vs AXYS Indy XCR, SWB XCR, XC 137. Great back to back comparison with multiple riders.
Glenn Siewert VR1 will do terrible in the mountains! Haha The Matryx in a mountain sled trim will be great. The new console and 7S display with the group ride feature would be a great addition to the RMK lineup.
I just bought a 1996 XCR 600 at the beginning of last week and put 200 miles on it... I will bet any new sled will last longer than 1996 technoligy ! 😉
Glenn Oake the 129 Had a 1.35 track so it went off trail like you would expect. But I would Expect 146 Switchback Assault will do off-trail like a boss!
I snowchecked the 650 assault with the 1.5 ice storm do you know when production will start on the new sleds. I'm a little worried about getting mine with a the stuff that's going on now.
I haven't been on a 146 yet but after riding the 129 and having 144s AXYS I think it is going to be a stellar on / off trail sled! My guess is the 146 sks in the narrow setting will be a little easier to carve around and it has a 2.25 lug on the SKS as well. But if you are 50/50 I certain the MAtryx 146 will be way better on the trail and as good or better than the 144 SWB ASLT
Ok Levi being that you are a Polaris spokesperson are we getting your personal opinion? Every year manufacturers are saying there newest model is the end all be all of snowmobiling. What geometry has changed from the AYXS front end? Looking forward to your next vidjeo. Thx
Dave g Hello Dave. Yes this is my opinion of the Matryx VR1 650 from my first ride on it . Regarding the front end, It uses the same front end as we have on our Polaris race sleds. My opinion on how they achieved the better stability on the trail is it looks like the ride height of the front end is lower. I wanted to measure the ride height but I thought of it while I was on the trail (not flat, level surface) which is not accurate. So we lifted the front end up and measured the Shock length to see if maybe the shocks were shorter....but it had the same length IFS as the 2020 Axys XCR we had with. With that said I think they took a page out of the “Offroad truck book”. By letting the shocks sit down in the travel it lowers the Center of Gravity which increases stability in the turns. then when you get into the bigger bumps or jumps the suspension drops out to absorb the bigger hits. (Again- my opinion) . But Because I was so impressed with how stable it was, I went out with 4 different AXYS sleds, and 4 other guys to test it back to back to get multiple opinions of what others thought. Next Thursday that video will come out and you can see and hear the difference between the Axys and the New Matryx from a group of us.
Levi, thanks for your insight I have a Rush Pro S 800 and was looking at the Xc last fall and now with the introduction of the Matryx chassis I need more info to make a decision. I'll stay tuned for your next update. Regards, Dave G
Shperax when the 850 patriot game out it had less than 1% failure. When the skidoo 850 etec came out it had a higher failure rate then the Polaris 850. So calling it a nightmare of a motor. You might wanna get your facts right. I have a 15 pro s switchback 800 with over 8,000 miles on it. 0 issues. Plan on running it 1 more season should have over 10,000 on it. Have buddies with 800 not making it nearly that high of mileage. And another buddy that’s had 2 850 etecs that he has roasted with under 5,000 miles🤷♂️
Seather come on, it’s not that old! It’s a 96 XCR haha I won’t lie, we all took turns running it and everyone got off of it with a smile! But I think it may be like Having grand kids- fun to babysit for a day or 2, but eager to give them back to the parents so they can deal with them. Haha
@@Levi_LaVallee visually, they don't have the aggressive styling as the previous generation, there is lots of empty space that makes them look droopy in my opinion. i have not seen it in person, nor can i comment on how they throw light. i can imagine other variants having worse styling with larger windscreens making them appear even narrower/smaller. i feel like i would replace them with aftermarket options if i were to buy a 2020.
I just wish someone would put a test ride with actual audio of the snowmobile itself not piped in music and fake injected sound effects And with most of it in normal motion not so many slow motion shots, which once in awhile are good to see the suspension work but come on stop the fakery
@@Levi_LaVallee I didn't mean to come off as a jackass but some natural sounds would be great That's what gets my blood flowing to make a purchase Merry Christmas
What would you like to know about it? For a trail sled, you would be hard pressed to find a better sled than it. But for my kind of riding, I would want stiffer suspension as it is doesn't handle the hard hits and jumps like the XCR suspension does.
Why does their advertising boast about reliability. How many years of data do we have to go by for reliability?. ummmm ZERO. When they released the Patriot 850 it was a nightmare of a engine. Sure the kinks are worked out now. Don't expect reliability the 1st year a engine launches though.
shperax I had a hand full of 850s in 2019 and 0 issues. The VR1 I shot this video on had over 1000 miles before I got. I’d bet there are some 650 sleds up in roseau with another 0 added onto the end of that number.
@@Levi_LaVallee I know you have lots of experience but being who you are it's hard to not think that you take endorsement money. That's maybe the downfall of being famous. You just don't know if you can be trusted anymore. Would you trust OJ to sell life insurance?
@@shperax Compared to OJ... That's a first. Come on shperax, "the glove doesn't fit". lol. In all honesty, I understand what you are saying. What I gave you were the facts about my experience with the 850 and the mileage on the 650 that I got to ride. I also gave you my opinion that I believe the new engine will be reliable based on what I know about how the manufacturers go about developing a new engine. For them to come out with an engine that has not been tested thoroughly and then have it be problematic would cost them a tremendous amount of money and it would tarnish the brand for years to come. That's why these engines are developed for years and testing in the most extreme conditions to ensure they will be reliable.
Levi, I love your videos and your joyful personality, Polaris is very fortunate to have you represent their product. I've been snowmobiling since 1987 at which time I started riding a Polaris Indy Trail and continued riding Polaris until '93, '94 and '95 when I rode Cats then went back to Polaris from 1996 through 2000. In 2001 I made the switch to Ski-Doo and have been riding them for the last 22 years.
I was able to do a 200 mile test ride on a friend's 2022 Matryx 850 a few weeks ago in northern Wisconsin and was simply blown away with the sled. All of your assessments in this video regarding the chassis is spot on (I haven't ridden a 650, yet) and are the same findings I experienced, 100%. Polaris absolutely knocked it out of the park with the Matryx. I've owned 27 new sleds in my life so far and I have never ridden a better handling sled than the Matryx. They're so easy to drive, the steering is light, the ergonomics are perfect, awesome seat, the body panels are sculped perfectly for outstanding wind protection and the narrowness of the seat/tank area along with the lightweight and the nimbleness makes it feel like you're riding a dirt bike. It's amazing how effortless the sled is to ride and the fun factor is totally off the charts.
As you can tell, I was more than impressed with the Matryx and after 22 years on Ski-Doo I just ordered a '24 XC 850 137" from Bill in Stratford, WI (my 7th Polaris from Bill). I can't remember the last time I was this excited to get my mew sled!!!! Anyway, keep up the great work on your videos, I absolutely love watching them and I appreciate what you do for the sport of snowmobiling and how well you represent Polaris. Maybe we can hook up for a ride with Jeff the next time you're in the Mosinee/Stratford area, LOL!!
Thank you for the note. I'm glad you enjoy the videos and if you have any ideas for videos you would like to see us make, please let us know.
Congratulations on the new sled! you are going to love that sled, I know I sure do!
a dream machine we all dreamed of 20 years ago,and new amazing epoch,with superb rider!thanks!
Loving that white/black/red combination
Great review Levi. I will be waiting to see you run the 650 vs 800, soon i hope.
Great review, I also got to ride one in January at the ambassador ride, the 650 is going to surprise quite a few people next season for sure, the Matryx platform is the best that I have ever ridden.
I agree on both! The 650 is the little engine that could! Matryx VR1 is the best trail sled i've been on!
Try the 2021 xrs. You wont ever look at Polaris again.
It's great to watch you leaning and showing people how it's done.
The majority of people I see these days don't even know how to lean, they just sit on the seat and bend a little. The stander uppers are the worst, they go so slow around corners it's ridiculous. They think they're going fast because the wind is hitting them I guess. Usually they stand straight up and lock their knees, totally defeating the object of standing in the first place
Jeremy and I were riding along a slightly bumpy trail in the U.P.. 44 to 50mph , came up behind a group of guys, all standing up, all brand new sleds, 30mph slowing down to less then 20 around corners. The back guy kept slowing down almost to a stop then pounding the throttle and throwing snow all over. After a few miles I couldn't take it anymore and passed them all one at a time wherever I got a space. Only the back guy let Jeremy past, so at the next road crossing I went across then waited for Jeremy to get around them. The front guy comes up and stops partly blocking me and starts coming at me with his hand out for me to stop. I flipped him off and we blew out of there.
These are the type of people who think they're qualified to judge how good something is or how well it handles. They ALL turn good at 20mph!
They need to get the hell out of the way, a 14 yr old kid on a 4stroke Yamaha wants to get through !
So Levi, please use your knowledge and have in the industry to help teach these people proper riding and etiquette on the trail.
Thanks
Thanks for the input Levi, wanted to hear this from experts point of view, was thinking of getting 850 but now it’s going to be 650
Glad to help. If have any questions just let me know.
Love this video Buddy! I just bought a 22' yesterday in matte blk/lime squeeze pretty stoked for this upcoming season :)
congratulations! You are going to have a blast on it!
thanks man!
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I'm always amazed at how Polaris raises the bar. Nice video Levi.
They took it to a new level with the Matryx!
The wedge in the back is the best of the bunch!!!
We put over 100 miles on it during the test ride! A different kind of fun.... and back pain lol .
@@Levi_LaVallee Tough to beat the look of the old classic wedge Polaris sleds. Cool old sled.
Thanks for the review on the 650. Am sure it will turn heads next year . Looking forward to the sled.
I love how calm and collected Levi is. Even though he's a badass. Makes me want to be more like him. I notice how much I swear when I listen to him talk 😂
Thanks for the review Levi! Already spring ordered my 850 VR1 137. I got the opportunity to sit on a demo at my dealership here in norther Illinois last weekend and I couldn’t believe how natural the seating position was, I knew it was gonna be good! So stoked for next season already!
Eron Gundelach you will love it! I was very impressed!
Rode 2 weekends ago up in the north shore. Glad to see your up in the Lutsen/ Grand Marais area. Thanks for the video Levi. Hope to see you up there sometime.🤘🤘
I love riding around there! Trails are awesome!
Nice review, thanks levi. Polaris never ceases to amaze me. People say, can the axis be top'd ..... i say if it can it will be polaris to do it. Guess what? They did it. I can honestly say, im a proud polaris guy from deep down. 😊
Alaska Railroad you hit it on the head! The AXYS is awesome and this Matryx VR1 took it to a new level!
Try the 21 xrs aswell as the matrix in the same say if you can. The new ras x front end is definitely better than the Polaris. The rear end the doo is for sure better. Polaris is good but not quite there with doo yet.
@@mv3380 that is in the eye of the beholder.
Hey Levi if I could ask when you did that Urban snowmobiling in st. Paul brother I thought you broke the internet when I seen that video I shared it on Facebook everybody loved itgoing up the spiral parking garage throwing Sparks but all the epic jumps and everything you did in that video I'm so glad you got yourself a UA-cam channel that I know about now because I think I've seen all the Red Bull videos that you are in I have turned so many people here in South Carolina onto your videos in the last weekthey see how excited I get and it brings them Joy because there ain't no snow down here I'm originally from Indiana I'm 49 I have ran a handful of sleds but nothing near as cool as what you rideI just can't say enough Levi I'm just a big supporter brother and I'm just glad to see all these videos 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👊🏼👊🏼💯💯🇺🇸
Roy! I love your energy and I really appreciate your support on You Tube and in general! When I was a kid I fell in love with snowmobiling and dreamed of becoming a professional snowmobile racer. I couldn't have imagined where snowmobiling would take me and how many great people it would introduce me to! Thank you for being one of those great people! Keep doing what you are doing! #positiveattitude
@@Levi_LaVallee thank you so much Levi your comment means the world to me brother more than you could ever know I seen it last night and I had to share it with my girls they said that's freaking awesome pops nothing but big love for you and your family Levi thank you so much my good brother❤️💯💯🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏼👍🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
I was focused on your riding position into the corners AND then you mentioned it during your 'first impressions'. THAT is a huge difference in the body English. As a shorter rider I can rip the heck out of my 600 Cat but the acrobatics takes an energy toll! I'm sold just undecided on Indy or Assault.
ADVENTURES This Way when I went back to back Matryx vs Axys you really notice how easy it is to move around on the Matryx
What is different in the chassis or suspension from a Axyss that makes it corner better? Can I still get a rack and saddle bags for my camping? I hope so . I don’t see my previous comment on this and my Pro S set up is the best hit tent trail sled in the industry. This is so important to me, it reinvigorated my happiness in riding. Now I have a base camp to extend my range and areas of fun. 25 years of Polaris loyalty here 😊❤️🇺🇸❄️☃️🛷⛺️
Mobile Winter Camp I think I just replied to your other account- Lord Marshall? I want to know more about the hot tent... I’ve done a lot on snowmobiles, but never camped!
Amazing. Thx. I think I will try and buy one. Love the videos
Exotic_ Neebs thank you ! Glad you like the videos.
nice review thanks!
That looks mean!!! Man I would love to ride that!!! Great video 👍
Thanks Cameron! I look forward to seeing your comment from video to video! I appreciate you stopping by to check them out! 🙏🏼
Oh snap if it's running too good you know how that goes man LOL it's always fun to watch you ride man I like the way it looks even better when it's up in the air cranking Willy's👍👍👍👊👊
haha That was when I was riding the 96 XCR 600. Hearing the triple wide open for a bit sounded "too good" and I didn't know what it was jetted so I switch to the few second burst throttle haha
@@Levi_LaVallee hahahaha... That is just too cool man brother you have done so many amazing things on a sled you have raised the bar for a lot of people we get started on your videos and we just can't stop watching 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Your one of the most likeable guys Levi!
I’m not sure about that, but I sure enjoy me some fun!
Love the look of the sled
Brennen Moore I do as well!
Do the Back to back next, a lot of us are questioning buying this since they never offered a XCR 137 in solid tunnel, so guys with a Switchback are questioning if the VR1 137 is as good as a XCR Switchback 137 in the old pro XC chassis. Show us how panels come off also. We cant go see these now since all the shows canceled
Kwmike-D we did! Next week- AXYS indy XCR 129 , SWB 136 XCR, XC137. 4 guys riding all the sleds back to back over the same conditions..... VR1 Matryx is unreal on the trails!
@@Levi_LaVallee awesome. Thanks. This will help choosing before April 15th
Great input. Currently riding skidoo G4 but these new Polaris sleds got me thinking.
Got to ride the 21 xrs late this winter. Its definitely better than the matrix. The new ras x is definitely more planted than the Polaris, the 850 doo is definitely ahead in the engine department too.
Xrs850 When did you get a chance to ride the Matryx?
Thanks for the review. How’s the wind protection in cold weather and are larger windshields available?
Steve Kerns fortunately it was in the high 20s low 30s when we went riding so the short windshield wasn’t bad.... but I’m getting at least the mid windshield on all my trail sleds for my face. They have medium and a large windshield which coupled with the new wind deflecting body panels it should be warmer than the AXYS
Levi nice review, now you have me guessing on the 850. I currently have a SBA 850, could I ever be happy with a 650? Will that 650 compare at all with the 850 arm pulling fun factor ?
Also, If you rode at night, how does that headlight compare with the Axys? Thanks
cajun869 the 650 pulls hard, but not as much as the 850. The 850 just keeps pulling and pulling!
cajun869 I did ride at night but unfortunately the headlight needed to be adjusted as it was angled down to far so I couldn’t see how well it worked.
@@Levi_LaVallee Thanks for you quick and honest response, you rock.
I can already see that it takes the turns better then my indy xcr..I do find my xcr a bit tippy ..but it keeps you on your toes lol and is a blast to drive..it looks like the vr1 would be fun as well..can't wait to see them head to head..
The Indy XCR was my trail blaster this season! If I was going on a hard trail ride I took the XCR, but after riding the VR1 back to back, I'm a VR1 believer! the VR1 is so stable and connected to the trail, you can straight up boogy on it!
I want to start racing Cross Country races at age 59 .. They limit the displacement to 600 CC's adding 50 cc's and lowering the compression so it can run on 87 Octane was a good idea for trail riding but maybe not such a good idea for racing Cross Country ..
For cross country races the xcr is the better choice
What track did you have on the sled? A lot of different options for snowcheck.
Kevin Mulkin 1.35 cobra. My favorite trail track is the storm 150.
Is the sled you are riding a 129 or 137? Have you ridden the other and which do you prefer for trail riding.
spring order 2022, here I come!!
I'm pumped for this season snow check!
Levi is cool. Like the review. Thanks for sharing.
No Problem! thanks for tuning in!
@@Levi_LaVallee ua-cam.com/video/VcQz7-1P1XE/v-deo.html I learned a new skill set today, so maybe I can get experience and have a retirement gig. Really enjoy your vids, and family connection. I have a PART TWO of this video, just posted. Take care sir. Be safe, your family needs you. You already made your mark in history, God bless LaVallee family.
Good now I won’t have to worry about crashing as much when looking at my display
Love that 1996 XCR 600 at the beginning ;)
I can't wait to get it out this winter for some more fun!
@@Levi_LaVallee i have a 1995 for a restauration project 😉👌
Skidoo #1 #TeamBrp #TeamSkidoo
I can appreciate your loyalty.
So wondering what there plans for XC and SX racing then with the extra 50cc? Sleeve that motor down or maintain the current 600 line to meet class regulations?
Polaris still has the XCR with a 600 and the race sled will also be a 600.
The last sled I rode was a polaris xcsp 600 and I broke my arm lol. I'm interested in getting back into it. I like the indy xc 650. However I'm undecided between the 129 or 137 and which track I should get. I'd mostly be ditch banging but I also enjoy getting into deeper stuff (when I can find it, which is rare these days in my location)
if you like the deeper snow, i'd go 137. It helps off trail.
@@Levi_LaVallee I bought an assault 850 instead. I love it!
What was the first sled you owned. I have a 2003 Polaris classic 600 as my first sled
I rode my Fathers 1976 Yamaha Exciter quite a bit .. Was a Skibum for years my first sled was a used Polaris '92 Indy 500 with fuel Injection my First new sled was a 2006 Yamaha Attack second sled was a 2014 Skidoo Renegade 800
Dylan Hadland 1990 indy 400.... and I just bought a 1990 400 2 weeks ago to ride the sled that started my passion for snowmobiling!
LaVallee Nice will you make a video on it
@@Levi_LaValleevery good little sled... i live in quebec home of ski doo and i drive polaris sled over 30 years....polaris always made better sled than bombardier.....
First to ride was a Polaris colt 340 my dad got. First sled I bought was an 01 pro x 600.
Loved my 2013 pro rmk I bought brand new. But then wanted something reliable
40 cms down the highlands last night in cape breton let's gooooooooooo
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Awesome
no you are. ;)
Which 850 would you pick?
Switchback Assualt 144
Switchback XCR
Indy matryx VR1 137
It depends on what kind of riding you do. 144 if I do more off trail, SWB XCR if i do more ditch banging and jumping, and VR1 if I am blasting trails.
All the above, I live in Idaho and I travel to visit friends such as (Kentucky, Oregon, Montana, Canada) I use my rmk pro for nasty stuff, but need something that's great for racing, on/off trail, need very versatile at it's best all around performance to would be great to for something that can handle it all. Hopefully this will give you a idea of what I need.
I hope you’re right Levi. I trust you’re word bit like every Rush or Pro-S owner I’ve met, I’ve owned both, that uncoupled sled corners the best period. If this surpasses or at least matches that, I,l be happy. Those sleds are obviously being fazed out, and owners are nervous about getting new rigs in the future. I better be able to still get a rack and saddle bags for my hot tent camping set up or Polaris will answering up to a angry 25 year loyal customer. 😊❤️🇺🇸❄️☃️🛷⛺️
Lord Marshall The video coming out on Thursday will be helpful for you. We put the VR1 up against the SWB XCR with the pro XC rear suspension, Indy XCR, 137 XC with multiple riders , testing different sections. Good feedback from all the riders.
Now tell me more about this hot tent? Is it what I am envisioning it is?
Man I am a doo guy but this 650 has my attention!
It's fast and has great pull from turn to turn!
So is this matryx chassis finally something will keep up with the edge chassis’ in the woods. I have yet to ride a sled that will run corners as fast as a 600 edge
Db Construction this is the one 👍🏼
Hey 👋 love the review. What models will you be riding this upcoming season? Can’t wait to see more vids
Matryx 129VR1 137VR1 146 Assault.... I have some fun ideas for this season. ;)
Polaris with the presentation of the 2021 models, why do you think they removed the possibility of commenting on UA-cam. Can snowmobilers answer me here ...The only manufacturer to have done this ....
Maybe so they didn't break the internet from all the excited people commenting? 🤷♂️
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Random question, doesn't polaris own klim? I saw you had FXR gear.
That is correct.
I wanna get the 650 for ditch riding, will it be enough power for wheelies and what not? my 550 indy has enough power but I just want more bottom end
The 650 has great power! The biggest issue is getting traction to wheelie. If you have a bigger lug track and some weight transfer set up in your suspension.
What are you doing when there is no snow? Are you ridding motorcross?
Moto when no snow.
I dont see pro taper handle bars, that's shitty.
I really like the feel of the SE protapers on my 2019 assault 800.
If the 650 motor proves reliable, I might have to buy one for my wife.
Not sure about the handlebars but I know the 650 rips!
Since you're in MN, shouldn't be too hard to find ya if I think my '22 VR1 650 is a turd, hopefully Polaris is on top of snow check orders this year and I have my sled for the couple snows we might get.
Had an old wedge until last yr, a worn out edge the yr before, keeping my Widetrak LX that is unstoppable in more than 1 way.
Really wanted to get a Grand Touring G4 900 turbo, trusting the Polaris Embassadors the 650 Matryx will be better.
If you trail ride, you will love it! Let me know what you think once you start riding it.
I rented 2 brand new ones over the weekend w my buddy and they definitely sounded terrible when we returned them
Sounds like you may have taken the "ride em like a rental" a bit far.
they sounded fine
Hey Levi! Love your videos bro, keep up the great work. I am really diggin' what Polaris is coming to the table with since coming out with the XC-R last year and now this? Wow! What is the track length that you can get with this machine? Also, please compare this 650 up against the XCR and the xc 137 and let us know what you see in the difference if you get a chance! Thank you for your videos!!
Thank you! You can get the Matryx platform in 129, 137, 146. My next video is VR1 vs AXYS Indy XCR, SWB XCR, XC 137. Great back to back comparison with multiple riders.
Was that the 129?
John Cosgrove, Id also like to know.
Yes 129
dos it burn cleaner less smoke on start up ? its going to be hard to give up the 600 have a 01 xc and 17 rush
It is more efficient burning less gas and oil... And the best part is it is more powerful than the 600!
Whats the weight on that thing levi im a polaris indy fan but i also own ski-doo and polaris ive had every oem brand i like all modern day sleds??
That's a good question. I'm not sure what the weight is on it. I'l'l have to check into that
LaVallee when you find out the weight of the 650 sled could you let me kno please
@@edwardabrahamiii3742 You can just go to Polaris website & look it up.
snowmobiles.polaris.com/en-us/indy/650-indy-vr1-129/specs/
@@mikemills8765 Thanks for the help Mike :)
@@Levi_LaVallee i bought a 23 indy adventure cuz i myself couldnt find a vr1 or an xcr so i went with something else that had the 7s display
iam in mn Lavalle i wish some can set up my nytro man loved you vid of you riding in st paul
thanks! I had a blast filming that video in St Paul!
Levi please do the 600 axys xcr 650 xcr shoot out
I don't have an Axys any more.
I'm sold I'm snow checking a 2023 in March so I can get it in 2025
How you think it would do in the mountains
Glenn Siewert VR1 will do terrible in the mountains! Haha The Matryx in a mountain sled trim will be great. The new console and 7S display with the group ride feature would be a great addition to the RMK lineup.
Dude when was this filmed
couple weeks ago.
LaVallee I was there March third
Do you know how good they would do in the powder
Hayden Demptser switchback 146 with a 2” will be a awesome cross over sled for off trail powder riding
But will it last as long as my nytro lol
I just bought a 1996 XCR 600 at the beginning of last week and put 200 miles on it... I will bet any new sled will last longer than 1996 technoligy ! 😉
@LaVallee I still love an old triple triple. Those things sound wicked!
Should of called it the xlt
First time I have saw someone do a video about a 600 or 650 and not 800 or 850
They are a heck of an Engine!
You should come visit finland sometime💪
I would love to!
so how was the fuel milage
The2000redrocket we didn’t do an official apples to apples test so I can’t speak accurately about it.
What's it like off trail
Glenn Oake the 129 Had a 1.35 track so it went off trail like you would expect. But I would Expect 146 Switchback Assault will do off-trail like a boss!
I snowchecked the 650 assault with the 1.5 ice storm do you know when production will start on the new sleds. I'm a little worried about getting mine with a the stuff that's going on now.
Congrats! You will love it! I think we will be fine as well I think the sled don’t go on the assembly line until mid to late summer
Great review Levi! Any thoughts on the assault 146 matrix in a 650 or 850? Thinking about snow checking...
I haven't been on a 146 yet but after riding the 129 and having 144s AXYS I think it is going to be a stellar on / off trail sled! My guess is the 146 sks in the narrow setting will be a little easier to carve around and it has a 2.25 lug on the SKS as well. But if you are 50/50 I certain the MAtryx 146 will be way better on the trail and as good or better than the 144 SWB ASLT
Ok Levi being that you are a Polaris spokesperson are we getting your personal opinion? Every year manufacturers are saying there newest model is the end all be all of snowmobiling. What geometry has changed from the AYXS front end? Looking forward to your next vidjeo. Thx
Dave g Hello Dave. Yes this is my opinion of the Matryx VR1 650 from my first ride on it . Regarding the front end, It uses the same front end as we have on our Polaris race sleds. My opinion on how they achieved the better stability on the trail is it looks like the ride height of the front end is lower. I wanted to measure the ride height but I thought of it while I was on the trail (not flat, level surface) which is not accurate. So we lifted the front end up and measured the Shock length to see if maybe the shocks were shorter....but it had the same length IFS as the 2020 Axys XCR we had with. With that said I think they took a page out of the “Offroad truck book”. By letting the shocks sit down in the travel it lowers the Center of Gravity which increases stability in the turns. then when you get into the bigger bumps or jumps the suspension drops out to absorb the bigger hits. (Again- my opinion) . But Because I was so impressed with how stable it was, I went out with 4 different AXYS sleds, and 4 other guys to test it back to back to get multiple opinions of what others thought. Next Thursday that video will come out and you can see and hear the difference between the Axys and the New Matryx from a group of us.
Levi, thanks for your insight I have a Rush Pro S 800 and was looking at the Xc last fall and now with the introduction of the Matryx chassis I need more info to make a decision. I'll stay tuned for your next update.
Regards,
Dave G
Shperax when the 850 patriot game out it had less than 1% failure. When the skidoo 850 etec came out it had a higher failure rate then the Polaris 850. So calling it a nightmare of a motor. You might wanna get your facts right. I have a 15 pro s switchback 800 with over 8,000 miles on it. 0 issues. Plan on running it 1 more season should have over 10,000 on it. Have buddies with 800 not making it nearly that high of mileage. And another buddy that’s had 2 850 etecs that he has roasted with under 5,000 miles🤷♂️
Would rather have the White Lightening 1995 XCR in the back round, peak of Polaris.
Seather come on, it’s not that old! It’s a 96 XCR haha I won’t lie, we all took turns running it and everyone got off of it with a smile! But I think it may be like Having grand kids- fun to babysit for a day or 2, but eager to give them back to the parents so they can deal with them. Haha
@@Levi_LaVallee I'm sure the new Polaris is a great sled, Polaris is back in a BIG way, I do love the mid 90's Polaris sleds though.
A lot of these 650’s coming back to the dealers blown up.
Great review. You think the Matryx will eventually replace the Axys in the mountain category.
Prorider I would assume so.
Hi Levi it’s onyx
Farmkid 736x, enjoying your appearances in your dads videos. Looking forward to your spring planting
ONYX!!! How are ya buddy? Did You jump the tractor after I left? Haha.
No I wish were out of snow
looks like a 2003 REV!!!!
Ok if I live in B.C
Drop the hammer 👍🏼
3gasman first thing My son Lavin said! Haha
Hi
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branch to the head @2:02
That would have left a mark if not for my helmet. haha
@@Levi_LaVallee yeh it would have
hate the headlights
Scott Talasko Really? I thought they were pretty cool looking, especially when you see them up close.
@@Levi_LaVallee visually, they don't have the aggressive styling as the previous generation, there is lots of empty space that makes them look droopy in my opinion. i have not seen it in person, nor can i comment on how they throw light. i can imagine other variants having worse styling with larger windscreens making them appear even narrower/smaller. i feel like i would replace them with aftermarket options if i were to buy a 2020.
@@zudukaiKilo44 thanks for your input.
I just wish someone would put a test ride with actual audio of the snowmobile itself not piped in music and fake injected sound effects
And with most of it in normal motion not so many slow motion shots, which once in awhile are good to see the suspension work but come on stop the fakery
Thanks for your input.
@@Levi_LaVallee I didn't mean to come off as a jackass but some natural sounds would be great
That's what gets my blood flowing to make a purchase
Merry Christmas
Sponsor me levi I rod sled my entire life... Let me work for you
No way hell ever buy Polaris and that sled doesn't have studs
You still playing in the Litter or Cracking your Ski-poodle 🤷♂️
A guy who would loose his Sponsor ship if he ever said anything bad about it. Not a real world review at all.
What would you like to know about it?
For a trail sled, you would be hard pressed to find a better sled than it. But for my kind of riding, I would want stiffer suspension as it is doesn't handle the hard hits and jumps like the XCR suspension does.
Looks like a ski doo from 10 years ago...sad.,.,axys 110% sharper looking
I like the looks of the skidoo's 10 years ago better than their new models. I am thinking of getting this model over the skidoo.
Why does their advertising boast about reliability. How many years of data do we have to go by for reliability?. ummmm ZERO. When they released the Patriot 850 it was a nightmare of a engine. Sure the kinks are worked out now. Don't expect reliability the 1st year a engine launches though.
shperax I had a hand full of 850s in 2019 and 0 issues. The VR1 I shot this video on had over 1000 miles before I got. I’d bet there are some 650 sleds up in roseau with another 0 added onto the end of that number.
@@Levi_LaVallee I know you have lots of experience but being who you are it's hard to not think that you take endorsement money. That's maybe the downfall of being famous. You just don't know if you can be trusted anymore. Would you trust OJ to sell life insurance?
@@shperax Compared to OJ... That's a first. Come on shperax, "the glove doesn't fit". lol.
In all honesty, I understand what you are saying. What I gave you were the facts about my experience with the 850 and the mileage on the 650 that I got to ride. I also gave you my opinion that I believe the new engine will be reliable based on what I know about how the manufacturers go about developing a new engine. For them to come out with an engine that has not been tested thoroughly and then have it be problematic would cost them a tremendous amount of money and it would tarnish the brand for years to come. That's why these engines are developed for years and testing in the most extreme conditions to ensure they will be reliable.