2020 SNOWTRAX TV Real World Sled of The Year Award!
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2020
- It's time for Luke to reveal the 4 sleds we think stood out as the best-of-the-best from each of the four manufacturers in 2020, then from these he presents our choice for the highly coveted SNOWTRAX Real World Sled of the Year Award.
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I envy you guys. Everybody screams bias and everything else while you guys are just trying to give your opinion. The truth of the matter is that there is no bad sled anymore, each manufacturer makes top of line vehicles. Each one has its pros and cons and while I don’t agree with the Polaris pick that doesn’t change the fact that you guys give honest reviews that keep us coming back year after year. Keep it up!
Facts
Carter Spratlin sir... you nailed it, I totally agree with you. It’s not what you ride that is important, the important thing is that you can go out and ride, enjoy our beautiful country and have fun all winter long. Thank you!!!
carter just likes to pick on us polaris people, my opinion all 4 brands are good
old&slow You’re right I do tend to tease Polaris owners a bit 😂.
John Smith You know I’ve noticed that quite a bit. Which doo do you own? I have a 19 renegade 600r and a 19 BCXRS 850, and I absolutely love how planted they are. I’ve seen snowtrax hate on it quite a bit but that precision is something I’ve grown to love. Seems like a love or hate though.
Thanks for the video. I always look forward to your reviews. As a polaris guy, im proud to see polaris gets your vote again this year. But i also want to say. To what ever you choose to ride, as long as you are happy is where it counts. Im just glad to see our snowmobile family out on the trails. God bless everyone, and stay safe.
You're probably GE Locomotive guy. I can smell 'em 5k miles away. Lol
I would like to start off with saying I really love your channel and all you do for the snowmobiling industry. Good to get reviews on multiple sleds throughout a winter to get us hungry for the next. I'm seeing alot of people pissed about the polaris selection this year but I have to say I believe you are spot on. I do my riding in the UP and have noticed this year that I was seeing alot of ski doos and polaris and a shortage of the rest. I'm not saying the others arent good but a majority of what I see is 2 brands kinda dominating by me. The next thing I see on these comments is people bashing this brand or that. That's why they make different brands, cause everyone has there own preference. One person drives a truck another drives a car and yet another prefers a motorcycle. That why there are trail, crossover and mountain categories. We cant all be happy with just one choice and that's what makes us different. I know snowtrax is paid and sponsored by all brands and that's what makes there opinion so valuable. In fact alot of the time there polaris sponsorship isn't shown til the end of the video and ski doo is first up. And then there's all the reliability talk and this is where I stand on that. I ride with multiple different groups and all brands. I'm here to tell you they all break. And the number one reason is that everyone gets there new sled and think they are exempt from maintenance cause it's new. They dont check the belt tension, the chain tension, track tension. They dont clean power valves, change chaincase oil, lube there rear skid. So many things are overlooked and the response is "it's under warranty." This doesn't keep you going throughout the season though and warranty work may be near free but you dont have a sled to ride and the season is short. I'm not saying this is everyone but it is a majority. I'm really anal about maintenance and am teased now and then for it but it doesn't hurt my feelings when I'm riding and someone's sleds down for something they could have prevented. Another thing I see that isn't good on these sleds and probably a good reason these motors arent lasting very long is people's ability to slow down and wait for the engine to get to operating temp. There is a very small amount of people I see that properly warm there machine up in the morning. Normally its fire it up for 15 seconds and rip it out the trailer is what I normally watch. That's not good on these high performance engines found in these snowmobiles. And I'm sure people will say Im dumb or I dont know what I'm talking about. They also weren't the guy fixing other people's sleds all winter just so they had someone to ride with. Normal maintenance and a daily sled check can catch alot of problems before they happen regardless of brand or model. Thanks again snowtrax
well written, so true
Great season guys and thanks. Ready for the dirt!!!
Great summary and I love that all sleds are 137 ish.... I own (2) Skidoo 137's so great to see.
Nice job Snowtrax. Enjoy your opinions on all the brands. Agree with you %100. Best sled on the market today. Makes other brands have to step up there game. Everyone have a good summer. 9 months until winter again!!🤘👍
Great 👍 I can appreciate that! I’m a huge ski doo guy but I think Polaris has come a long way in the last 5 years!
I have an 19 polaris xc .. coming from a few new cats and ridden a couple skidoo’s , these guys are absolutely bang on. Polaris is kicking ass and taking names . Love my xc
Been really pleased with my assault 800 great all around ride.
Awesome video guys, Thanks!
Nice selection. They are all top notch sleds.
Put on almost 2000 miles this season in Northern WI. Mainly saw Ski Doo then Polaris. AC and Yamaha came in 3rd and 4th. But that's just this guy's observation. I could be and may very well be wrong in my assessment. Had a great season. Thanks to all the clubs and volunteers! Ride Safe! Ride On!
And the VR1 is a total leap forward for 2021. It’ll clean sweep the 2021 SOTY award without any real competition. Anyone without a blind brand bias knows Polaris has been absolutely killing it lately. I’ve never even owned a Polaris...yet... and it’s so obvious they’ve been paying attention to what customers are asking for. Good job SnowTrax for telling it like it is.
Perhaps it’s time for Ski Doo to pay attention as well and listen to what the customers want. LED lighting, included storage, included windshields, actual color options when ordering, better steering, better gauges across the lineup and not just in a few 850’s, as well as better spring promotions when snow checking. The Ski Doos are damn fine sleds, but they’re all so alike and you can barely tell the difference from a X AND XRS visually anymore. It’s all about simplifying production in Ski Doos eyes. Enough with watering down the XRS name as well. What’s next? A Skandic XRS?
Arctic Cat and Yamaha are hopelessly lost on rear skid tech that’s been around for nearly 20 years. It’s going to take a miracle in modern engineering for them to catch up at this point, but I hope Cat has something incredible for their 60th anniversary. Time is running out.....
bedlambikes skidoo added basically all that stuff for 2021. New front end that handles amazing people say, new gauge with Bluetooth and music and stuff. Ya it is nice to choose exactly what color you want but I think that skidoo is nailing the colours. That can be a bit crazy sometimes but they make some quality sleds. And for arctic cat, time IS running out and the riot is just not good enough to bring back arctic cat.
If you’ve never owned one you don’t know. Sleds are personal preference. Don’t go buy what a video tells you, go with what you like. You might like Ski Doo better because of ergonomics or something else. I’m a Polaris guy but that’s what I like. I’ve owned Ski Doo I don’t like their ergonomics or front end but many people love them.
@@kathleencahill6353 This is a great comment and is absolutely true. Just because a polaris won this award does not, in any way, mean the skidoo (or arctic cat or yamaha) is somehow bad. Our crew just preferred the polaris. If a person prefers or fits better on a skidoo, go buy one. I certainly wont give you a hard time about it.
I agree except for the color thing. After coming off probably the most awesome color choices ever with the sharpest sleds ever in 2020 Polaris has decided to follow that up by apparently bringing the color coordinators that came up with the boing plain late model iq’s. They’re bland. They even put a cheesy pinstripe on some of them. Hopefully they look better in person but I haven’t seen one yet that was as exciting as the 2020 schemes. Also my brother has a el Tigre 137 and it’s a great riding sled.
Eric Savage the first year bland colors are intentional. But at least there’s a dozen or so combos you can do for each model. Next year they will have a lot more exciting options, better graphics, etc... that’s how you keep a product line fresh and the center of attention throughout its lifecycle. Look at the latest mustang for example. Mustang GT.... then models like the California, GT350, GT350R, Bullett, Shelby GT500 followed.
Luke. I’ve been a subscriber to Supertrax since the 90’s.... Always valued your feedback and opinion.... Don’t worry about what trolls have to say.... You guys have always been the best in the business and the overwhelming majority of your viewers appreciate all the work you and your family does.... Thanks, and keep up the good work man!
Glad somewhere got a decent winter. The mountains in southwest Pa didn’t get anything. For the first time ever and hopefully the last, we didn’t get a single rideable snow. Every storm either started or ended as rain. Sucked bad. Still took two good trips to the UP but like to ride at home too
Biggest sledding year for me yet, but also the fastest, can't wait for more brappin !
Great video!
I wish it was a mountain sled shootout. I really wanna see the Alpha vs the Pro vs the Summit.
With a opening like that hmmm wonder what sled they picked.
Huh?
Polaris all day and to know what the 2021 VR1 is bringing...can’t wait
I liked this video setup better. It made you sound less “bias”. But I’m still a die hard Ski-Doo fan! Just ordered a 21 MXZ XRS 850. I’m curious on how much better you guys will think it handles... Great job guys, be safe will all that’s going on in the world. Ride what makes you happy. Ride On!
I rode the rasx doo and think that its a bit better but I completely think that the polaris axis sleds handle so much better
Great job Lester’s! I agree Polaris all the way. Look forward to this episode every year. I would like to see a comparison of the same class sleds like you mentioned in the video. Also would love to see a comparison of the Axys Rush or Switchback vs. the Indy XC. I’ve read so many opinions on this and so many people like one or the other. Just because something is new doesn’t mean it’s the best or the best for everyone.
I'll give you an opinion, the Poo XC with the cc skid hands down. Polaris came out with this new suspension because that half baked skid in the Rush is only good for a small group of riders. I'll take my XLT's extra 12 over that any day.
Great video guys!! Ignore the brand biased haters!
I feel like the arctic cat came in second.
Ethan Lundberg nah
Yea they actually slammed the front end handling pretty bad on skidoo
Cool video keep it up 👍
I love arctic and Yamaha. I also love Polaris. I just never liked skiidoo I see more of them broke down than anything else both old and new. So I'm happy with anything about the 3 I mentioned
awesome.. I have been a skidoo rider since 1993..but in our town there are no skidoo or arctic cat dealers.. I may very well consider a polaris sled next time. just because of the sales and service so close to where I live..to be honest all 4 manufacturers make a great sled . if they didn't they wouldn't be in business..
Great job guys...I would suggest maybe though that you extend this to the different Categories (Trail, Xover, Mountain), there will be a lot of butt hurt Mountain guys right now thinking SkiDoo Xpert Package, or the Khaos..etc could have won this. I'm one of them.
Thanks man, i appreciate it. I guess a bit more of an explanation would have been helpful. Because we dont live in the mountains and do the majority of our riding on trails we tend to stick to picking a trail/crossover sled for this award. Weve called it the "real world" sled of the year award because the sleds we pick are more for average riders, not pro mountain riders. I do appreciate your comment though and for what its worth, ive made the suggestion that we could have a few different categories. But the rest of the crew has always voted to stick with just one.
Luke Lester Comments are poison. Don’t let the cry babies get under your skin. You guys provide amazing content for people who wish they could be riding right now. Keep up the great work Snowtrax!
@@pavmentsurfer13 Understood. I watch all of your vids and value your opinions more than most others. Actually bought my first sled from a recommendation your dad made. ;op
@@pavmentsurfer13 every rag has had these awards for years. It usually goes to a ground breaking sled (like original Rev) or a sled with lots of new stuff. I really didn't see anything in this lineup that has anything to separate itself from the others. Not sure it was an easy win, but I understand it.
I agree with you but if they do not review those categories it’s probabbly because it’s time consuming or expensive :/
Good job dealing with the immature haters👌
Way too many sleds to choose from each company to narrow it down to one sled each. You guys should do best trail sled, best mountain sled, touring sled, etc. and make them separate videos
First time in 23 yrs i havent been on a sled.....we had no snow this season
I think you should go back to years gone bye and see what mistakes you have made with sled of the year.... for example if a sled blows up its motor at 5k more than the other sleds it should not have been the sled of the year. Not saying you did that but just want to see if your picks stand the test of time. It is also a good way to inform people on great second hand sleds to buy....
If that were the case you'd see Yamaha front and center every year. I for one am not interested in rebuilding a toy every second season. We've had Yamaha's since 03 and never once have we ever had a problem. Not a single issue. I heard some guys will blow belts but they all blow belts. All I know is that most have a hard time keeping up and those complaining about weight need to hike their skirts up. Unless you're mountain riding or jumping I don't see the allure of being towed back to camp. That's just my opinion.
Most sled mechanics around my way will tell you 2 stroke motors need pistons and rings around 4000 miles. I've seen an Arctic cat get them at 3500miles.
Jay Collins seriously dude, geez
@@boburban9705 ? you don't think that is a good idea, to see what sleds have done the best over time ?
Love my 137 850! Kinda jealous of the new matryx models tho
Sweet
When is yamaha going to make there own sled again and not be owed by Arctic cat
CANADA EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM all indications point towards never.
They won’t.
They say this is the best Yamaha ever, so why would they go back to making their own.
S Mason because it’s 2020. It SHOULD be the best Yamaha ever. But the best Yamaha ever is 6 years behind the competition.
@@jaqrocker because its not a Yamaha, its the same as the Cat so why would anyone want to give their hard earned money to a lazy company that says the market is to small to sink R & D money into.
Luke thanks for liking my comment and I didn’t even have to pay you to say that. Lol. Is Polaris gonna have a Maytrx XCR or XCR 137 in 2022? Can’t believe they didn’t make one for 2021.
Are artic cats good sleds? Everyone makes them out to be bad. I’m 14 and want to save some money for a sled for me and my little brother around 17-18. I could probably get a 2010ish 800 artic cat. Are they good?
i'm ok with that, RASx on the 21 XRS is going to be a nice improvement.
I'm with you I love my polaris 600 switch back
You guys should talk about fuel mileage, oil mileage, maintenance issues, etc.
were would you guys rank the cat on this list
Actually, everyone around here really likes the RIOT.
I might have to try a Polaris 850 after I get done putting 15k miles on my cat 800.
Crank case gonna go out
On what? My cat? Unlikely.
What’s up with the windshield and 1+1 seat in the xrs
They ride them all winter and throw huge miles on them. The windshield helps in Quebec when it’s well below zero. Those two up seats are comfortable for 300 mile days as well.
It's hard to match things up with that Strung out Ostrich looking thing..🤦♂️
I had JUST finished riding that sled with my kids with the 2 up linq seat installed. The stock seat had gone "missing" when I went to switch it back for this story (we found it later) and the windshield was how we tested that sled all year. Maybe its my advanced age speaking, but I HATE riding with the silly bug deflectors some of the new sleds come with. Maybe it doesnt look as cool, but if being warm is less cool (Figuratively and literally), im good with it. Lol
Luke Lester I was fine with it I just thought it was stock to stock
Luke Lester You could’ve put a FXR commercial in there saying you don’t need it because your FXR gear keeps you warm. Lol
well said - this is still a business
It's a tough video to make. It's about opinions. You're going to offend people with different opinions unfortunately but you do a good job with the videos! I wish I could ride all the different sleds and form a good opinion.
I love the Polaris most! For me the best looking Ski! Can you do a comparison between a Polaris and a Lynx brp
If we get another Lynx for long term testing this winter along with an XCR I can almost guarantee there will be a shootout.
It isnt even fun to predict anymore
Yes it is. I predict that the Polaris will be in the shop shorty😂
My buddy is on his 6 th motor in a assault lol, I though brp was bad lol
@@aaronmcfee506 why not have your buddy post his dislike for the 850 engine
He was waiting to see if the crank issue where going to be resolved, tow of his riding buddies had 850 failures
Where’s the mountain sleds
you should do your all time favorite snowmobile
Not a bad idea.
Why do you only do the on trail models
colburn connelly because they are from central Ontario where we only get enough snow to ride a 146
Had a pretty lousy winter here in southern manitoba
@@450gguy part of the issue was I was between sleds part way though the winter sold my rush 600 and got a 14 renegade. Where abouts do you ride?
So did everywhere have snow except southwestern ontario?
Calvin Verheyen we had one of the shortest seasons in eastern Ontario I have ever seen
First time in 23 yrs i wasnt on a sled. Here in central Pennsylvania
didn't Polaris sponsor the hot cocoa that morning??😂😂😂
These are all awesome machines. Do you know what everyone really wants to know? We all want to know which sled breaks down or over heats the least. No one wants their sled to break down. If you can prove which one breaks down the least I garuntee that sled will sell the most no matter how well it performs.
Yamaha is the king, I will never kneel to Polaris.
LOL
In comparison, military deciding on next killer machine hands down is Black ops Yamaha. Just sitting there it is dominating through nuclear power deterrence...
Yesss it was wayyy to short
How do you get that job I want to test did for a living
I’d take the Yamaha oml
Yeah next can you do a video on where the real world snow is at? This was the worst winter ever in upstate NY.
From the beginning when he said people get mad and accuse them of being bias I knew it was going to be the Polaris.. hopefully next year with skidoo’s RASX front end they can get some praise from snowtrax
The Best the Best the Best they are all good .. all have strong points and weak points and different characteristics..
You don't have to be butt hurt if your favorite brand did not come in first .. You don't have to purchase the brand and model that SNOWTRAX chose as Number 1 . You steel have the freedom of choice to use your own brain and decided what you want..
These Snowmobile reviews give you a general idea what to look for .. when you do make a choice
If I had a dollar for every time I heard some one say they had to put another a new engine in there Polaris!!
Maybe Snow Trax should do a show on fit finish and reliability in the 1st 3 years of owning a snowmobile. and see who Wins! Polaris would come in last every time. After all the in factory slogan at Polaris is It don't have to be good but good enough.
To be fair, you guys have asked for a better front end from skidoo for years. And have praised their track, for years. Consistency. Im not biased either way. I just want to get into snowmobiling as someone who didnt grow up in a sled family. My friends are 100 percent skidoo, but they also have 90’s sleds with 5000 plus miles. I think the 500 583 and 670 are three of the most reliable engines you could have from what i have seen. But, thats more than 20 years of innovation ago, there is nothing saying polaris cant be the top dog, damn does that skidoo look nasty though.
if I was polaris I would just make a lynx accessory adapter to my sleds
You need a 1984 Arctic Cat Lynx to tow you back to camp?
Interesting
You guys should make three different real world sled of the year. The three categories. Mountain crossover and trail
Keegan Fischer ill do it for ya! Polaris, Polaris, Polaris! Its all they ever pick
@@koreybarnhart6675 go back watch older picks not always polaris
old&slow oh I’ve just watched the last couple and it seems they are always picking Polaris wether they are the best or not
@@koreybarnhart6675 please go back further then 2 years
@@koreybarnhart6675 Same pick next year 100% Guarantee. Polaris Boys ...
Much prefer comparing a model year over year, mods, and learning about new places to ride...
one question i need to know from everyone who comments here, how many of you help put in maintain & take down the trails
old&slow I don’t cuz I don’t live where there’s trails but I give those guys and girls a lot of credit and respect. Thank you snowmobile clubs for your hard work so we can enjoy the trails.
@@kathleencahill6353 thank you
I'd imagine most people get mad when you don't pick a certain brand because they have a bias towards it. I'm buying a Polaris because as of right now they are building the best snowmobile that fits me and my riding style. Polaris assault 850 146
1:14 - 1:51 ya'll shook?
Mike Bunero absolutely 😂😂
How do I get a job with you guys😂😂
By not letting money shape your reviews and telling it like it is even under criticism
Why don't you call it real world trail sled of the year? How about picking a real world sled for each snowmobile category?
The best of the "year"..... I would like to see some longevity tests 3+ years out on dependability, overall years of maintenance and just how well they kept or didn't keep their first year feel
bill slabich Years mean nothing miles is what counts. Most people don’t do many miles a year. Most of these new sleds are pretty reliable.
You have to understand, for us, this isnt possible for 2 reasons. First, we only get these sleds for one season. Then we have to give them back. In that one season, we generally put on 2 or 3 times the mileage an average rider puts on in a year though. The 2nd reason is that next season all of us at snowtrax will be focused on the 2021 models. Theres not enough hours in a day to continue evaluating 2020's while also testing and evaluating 2021's. We hear the same thing your saying from many people, year after year. At the end of the day, our reward is what it is... if your looking for longer term results, youll have to look elsewhere.
it all depends on owner of sled if the sled keeps their first year feel, i know guys that just park sled in shed & do not prep sled for storage then the crank goes out or the rings stick then they blame the manufacturer for junk product
@@cacsrx1 i still would like to know how many 850 engines were built & how many failed. but john q public will never know, not defending polaris, all the brands have issues. how many sleds failed because of operator error
Polaris has come a long way in last few years, they are deserving, and this from a 850 Ski-Doo guy.
Rink Rat true
@Aiden Maves Lets not get crazy..lol. Ski-Doo has been the clear market sales leader for 15 years. Having said that I would bet the VR1 wins this award next March, and again it will be deserving!
i ride 850 skidoo but that khaus has got my attention, after blowing 4 belts and seeing how well that Polaris handles on the side of a hill I'm convinced it will be my next sled.
Skidoo👍
Not 100% sure if that's the best sled ever built by Polaris I have a 1999 indy xc 500 2 stroke. All around awesome sled hugs the trails and corners perfectly and sips gas and oil and a suprising amount of power. It accelerates quick and will do 100 mph witch is pretty good for a 500
Best sled for what? Reliability, handling, price, comfort, speed, resale, charisma, good looks, cross country, mountains, off trail, on trail, deep snow, dealer support,
Iwait I know what it is. Best trail groomed, snowmobile!! Polaris makes the best trail groomed snowmobile!! They are better then everybody else!! Lol
CreamyCat Cake haha lol good one
Ummm... what are you getting at. Were not mountain riders. We have NEVER picked a mountain sled as sled of the year. Its an award focused on average trail riders. Weve never tried to hide that fact. I think if you watched the segment you would have seen and understood that a little better.
You do realize that YOUR chosen brand was in that category too, right?... and it lost to boot. Wow, you sure are butt hurt.
Dan Buddy what if his chosen brand was taiga lol
@@pavmentsurfer13 No need to explain to people. You were more than concise in the lead up with all 4 sleds...and that they were chosen for the type of riding you guys at SnowTrax do the most of. I personally am a Cat guy for many years....with a few Polaris models scattered in there from time to time. Truth is...all 3 of the bigs make great machines. When I say 3 I'm including Yamaha in with Cat for obvious reasons. I currently ride an 18 Rush 800 that is a phenomenal trail sled...prolly best I've ever owned. I would love to own a Riot but feel the price a little out of my range. At the end of the day...you have to choose your gut...not what other branders want you to. Great job....keepup the great videos.
At 11:15 ... I threw my phone at the wall. Lol ... just kidding. I would like to say thank you to Mark, AJ and Luke and to All the staff at Snowtrax TV for another wonderful season. You guys did step it up a notch this year and I hope one day to be able to meet with you all, shake your hands and go for a ride together. Can’t wait to see what you have in store for us next season ... thanks again !!!
Thanks so much for this man. We all really appreciate reading comments like this and yes, we'd love to meet you as well. Not sure where your from but if your ever at either Haydays or the Novi snowmobile show were always there. Come by and say hi.
@@pavmentsurfer13 Thanks so much, I am from Fredericton and YES for sure I will if the opportunity presents itself. Please stay safe and most importantly stay healthy. A++
You would think Yamaha would listen by now about the skis seeing they used them for 5 years with the same results.
The new Strike ski combined with the new spindle is a game changer for Yamaha.
rip arctic cat in Canada
I will be blunt. I never see anything mentioned such as recalls known issues or complete engine failures. The Automotive industry can barely make direct injection work so SKI DOO has figured it out just saying. Polaris and their hand grenades 800-850. I guess when it comes to extended coverage after the factory warranty Polaris is King @ 2100.00 for 60 months of coverage. It says a lot about their own thoughts on their products. All of these manufactures are guilty of putting out inferior engines and complicated electronics in the pursuit of higher horsepower numbers. I want to see a SOTY on reliability and long term ownership.This would include recalls bad engines blown clutches and electrical failures. I could give two shits about how fast a sled is or if you can launch it over an overpass.
SnowTrax, I would like you to put all of your heads together and pick one sled you would take out in a blizzard to deliver much needed medicine to a remote village 100 miles away
Ease of maintenance and reliability. Two huge factors that aren't taken into account here.
Yep, but only one of these last a season without needing a screwdriver
It's too bad the coronavirus has put a damper on this winter, the matryx takes the axys to next level which was already at the highest level, spring early buying programs for 2021 will suffer even though the products are the best they've ever been.
Daniel Leveque They extended the snow check till May and have 0% for 48 months that should help a lot.
you get paid from the companies anything you say really doesnt matter...
people will have to spend their money to see if they made the right choice.
There is a huge difference between being paid for an opinion, and being given funding for either trips or given riding opportunities to test equipment. That said, if they are only taking pay for opinions, that is a different issue which, i believe he would say, its easy to prove
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 7 months later .... Bro you’re late.
Did it cost anyone anything
Actually they're being paid by Princess Auto lol
The haters got destroyed in this vid
Lots polaris 850 coming back to dealer with smoked motors . all 4 that came back this week had 1500 miles .or less.
so you work at the dealer,why did they fail, did owners put wrong fuel in tank what went wrong
chad what year 850's & what happened with engines
First
Big surprise, Polaris wins a snowtraxx comparison.
I'M picking SKidoo renedade hands DOwn!
Polaris must have paid more😂😂
I found that on all Snowmobiles insured in the United States (2015-2016-2017) on the average of 100% of vehicles sold, the Polaris and Arctic Cat are stolen at more than 80% of this average versus the numbers sold, skidoo comes in third with 12% versus the number sold. Are the Polaris and Arctic drivers clumsy enough or is the reliability lacking. I still opt for the second option. I want to believe Luke, but why this high number of flights with 50% less sales for Polaris and even worse for Arctic Cat?
Luke how much is Polaris paying you every year?! Haha jk
All the skidoo owners crying like children😂😂
Not really
Skidoo = overpriced garbage
Why bother making the video its always the same pick..
Just like BMW and Porsche always kicks ass in Car and Driver. It’s called honesty.
It’s always the same pick because year after year Polaris keeps making the best sleds.
Jack Wiley tell that to the market share my good man! Lol jk. Polaris and all of the other manufacturers make great sleds
Carter Spratlin market share... does that mean the Toyota Prius is the best car on earth? Lol
And let me explain why, the xc clutching is soft, my doo is like a Rottweiler always pulling at the chain, waiting to explode. The clutch and throttle response is almost instant while the xc was softer and less responsive. Doo has more mid range, up top xc probably pulled a bit better. Xc front end is more planted, my bcxrs was on the narrow setting but even at 40 the xc front is better. To me the rear suspension is no comparison, Doo all the way, transfers better, can take bigger hits and is just more fun to ride. If you enjoy a more relaxed ride the xc is great, if you want to feel like you are riding something that wants to excite you and thrill you get a Doo.
Your comparing 2 COMPLETELY different sleds with 2 COMPLETELY different purposes. Your description of the differences you experienced are pretty much spot on. But that in NO way makes Skidoo or Polaris better somehow. If you had bought an assault, which, by your description of what you liked about your BCXRS, would have been a much better choice for you, you may have a completely different opinion. Maybe not... but saying your BCXRS is better than an XC850 137 is like saying a Ford Raptor is better than a Chevy suburban. They dont compare. Still, I appreciate your comment and your explanation. Again, I feel the same way you do about those 2 sleds in terms of how they compare.
@@pavmentsurfer13 I'm not putting you choice down, and I get the premise of your comparison best sled from each manufacturer, but that doesn't make it the best sled for everyone. I'm not brand biased, I own a 2016 rmk assault with a silber turbo also, had assaults from 2009- 2012, have had a m1100 turbo, a couple Yamaha, a freeride ect. I love your reviews and Polaris makes great sleds, they all do. If I had just a bit more money I'd have one of each lol
Lol well if their like Polaris 4 wheeler and side by side you better not go far from town unless you bring a good mechanic with you 😉.
If they took into account reliability/build quality, then this would be a very different story. That's why I have a love/hate relationship with Polaris. They make such fun machines that handle great, have tons of power, are super stable, have great ergonomics, but then one say it leaves you stranded on the side of the trail because the motor catches on fire, blows a piston out of the head, leaks coolant into your electrics, blows a belt from any humidity, suspension ends up buckling, the list goes on. And considering Ski-doo has the exact same advantages as Polaris, but Ski-doo is more reliable, I find Ski-doo is a better choice
I appreciate your reviews and the episodes are definitely well-produced, but there’s a reason why you’re being accused of being biased. It’s sure seems like you guys are. I am not a “brand loyal person,” I simply ride the machines that are the best.
I recently tried a 2020 Polaris Indy 850XC at my Polaris dealer. Before I went for a ride the owner of the dealership looked at the sled I rode in on (2018 Ski Doo 850 XRS) and what he said was shocking. He said “coming from a Ski Doo 850 to the Polaris 850 Patriot is going to be disappointing for you.” THIS CAME FROM A POLARIS DEALER!
I hopped on the Polaris and drove it around for 10 miles. The riding position was great but the footwells were too small to the point I was worrying about ankle damage in the event I was thrown from the sled.
The throttle might have been easier to manage from initial start but this would only be an issue with someone completely new to the sport. The rest of the engine performance was beyond disappointing. I honestly got off the sled to make sure I was indeed riding an 850 and not a 600.
I desperately wanted to love the Polaris but was very let-down after all of the hype you guys were giving the sled.
Although you mentioned that bias concerns will not change the content of your channel, if your perceived bias continues, one thing that WILL change will be your viewership.
So you rode the sled for 10 miles and based your opinion on only that? It takes alot more time to truly understand and learn a sled. You cant expect to just jump on a completely new to you sled and feel completely comfortable right away. As for your dealer. I dont know why he said what he said. Without knowing him or having any context to his comment, its not something im going to consider.
I would encourage you to read the comments on this video before you start warning me about my viewership. A "perceived bias" isnt going to make me change my opinions. My opinions arent for sale and arent going to change based on weather or not they upset some people. Opinions often do just that. But as for the perceived bias, if you look back at previous sled of the year winners youll see that there was a time we were accused of being biased TOWARD skidoo. Not everyone is going to agree with who we pick as a winner. But were not here to please everyone, all the time. Were here to tell it exactly as we see it. The great thing for you though is that you get to decide if you agree or not.
100% the polaris indy xc rides better than the skidoo. NO QUESTION
@@pavmentsurfer13 exactly what you said it takes more then 10 miles unless the person is headstrong about their brand. it took me a full season of riding to really like my 600 fusion, then last ride of season i took my 700 indy edge out & did not like it anymore, the edge was a great riding sled in the day. yes i admit the footwell on the axys on chaincase side is a little narrow but then again i have large foot. i will say this though i have 019 600 indy xc 129 it seems to me that motor is more responsive in the axys chassis. i compare it to my 018 600 indy short track. it feels like it rolls easier.. these polaris sleds the past 2 years are the best sleds i ever owned. my first ride was on a 64 comet
This doesn't surprise me. All skidoo has to do, is redesign the twitch out of their front ends, and change up the bullfrog looking cowl.