New Tacoma looks way better than the new Tundra. Toyota really nailed this new Taco. I’m 6’4 and the old Tacoma interior was confortable, but seating low was an issue.
I like the tundra. The only time I don't like it is if the grill is chrome or the fu manchu is chrome. When the grill is body color or trd black and the fu man chu is body color or brushed silver I think those look the best.
Comparing a Top of the line 2024 to a midline SR5 2023. 🤷♂️ I still prefer the 6 to the turbo. Going to look at a 2023 TRD Sport 4x4 long bed today. Luna Rock
Purchased a 2023 TRD Off Road in blue crush metallic in January and after 8 months I have to say I never owned a vehicle I liked more, it’s comfortable, predictable, and the instrumentation inside is everything you need, without any fuss, I actually love it more every day. I’m sure new Tacoma will be great but I don’t think I could ever part with what I got.
5 reasons why I prefer my 2022 Tacoma: 1-I got an unbreakable naturally-aspirated V6. I don't want a turbo-4. 2- I like my entertainment head unit, not that unsightly, unnecessarily big ugly protruding head unit of the 2024. I need a truck, not a technology platform full of gadgets. 3- I am 5' 7". I like my seating position, thank you. In and out of the cabin is a breeze. 4- I am more driven by proven quality and familiarity, than by newness. The new Taco is gorgeous, but it has a lot to prove yet.
I realize you didn’t pick the trims but the old Trail edition is based on the SR5. Vs the new TrailHunter is top of the range model now essentially at TRD Pro level. So not a fair comparison. That Trail Hunter is gonna be every bit of $65k-70k. The TRD Off Road will be the hot seller in the new gen Tacoma. Solely based on price relative to options. Waiting a couple of years is the smartest thing as Toyota will be ironing kinks on these new trucks and the lower trims will also get better in options as time passes. It happened with the current gens. Oh then there’s the dealer mark ups. 😅
I have to believe the base price of the 2024 Off Road, Sport, etc. will be every bit of $47K to $50K, putting it out of range for many, including myself.
Just like old Tundra vs. New Tundra, buyers worry that any improvements will be overshadowed by reliability concerns. Me? I'd put up with the old design to avoid all the issues that make me a Toyota buyer in the first place.
@@Hernsama your wrong on so many levels I don’t know where to start, so I won’t. The “data” is out there and it’s never good on new models with new drivetrains. Google it.
To everyone commenting on the seating position and the sluggish transmission, I have a 2020 trd pro and I HIGHLY recommend: 1. Seat jackers from desert does it which raise the front portion of the seat and tremendously improves seating position. I am 6’2” tall. 2. The overland tune by OV tuning adjusts shift points and throttle response. This 350 ish mod is Amazing and makes the Tacoma feel like a completely different truck.
Never take vehicle buying advice from a journalist. This guy was paid 300 dollars by toyota and he spent a total of 2 hours with the truck, do you really think he understands what youre looking for in a truck?... this guy is a schill 10x
@@macbook802 The guy who questioned the head engineer about the problems he had with his own new Tundra? And posted it online? Yeah total schill. I mean all journalists will be somewhat friendly but Tim has literally criticized Toyota about their vehicles.
Really like the color on the Trail Hunter. Better looking front end. The only thing I don't like is the bed rack behind the cab. Just takes up usable space. Very nice interior. Better size infomat screen and nice gauge lay out. Like the front light bar in the grille. I can take or leave the snorkel. Thanks for the reviw.
The head clearance getting in and out!!! Thank you for that specific info! I had determined that, as much I love the look and features of the 24, if I hit my head getting in I was going to walk away. I’m so glad they fixed this!
I retract my statement then. And offer this new statement. Your reason for liking an engine that you haven’t even driven yet is based on driving many other turbo charged engines from other manufacturers that have totally different engine architecture and performance characteristics. Most aren’t mild hybrid models in any shape or form. How’s that any better?
If you are not content with the third gen taco, you’re never be content with the fourth gen when the fifth gen comes out. Money doesn’t grow on trees. Wise choice!
Turbos can easily go 300k miles with proper maintenance, oil changes etc…. We just had a guy on the transit forum go over 400k miles with his 3.5 ecoboost, original engine/turbos, whole drivetrain actually. Of course we won’t know until they are out in the field for some time, but it can be done.
I dont even know why this is an argument. Toyota along with the rest of JDM land have turbo'd cars forever. Theres nothing worse than city driving wear and tear and you've got turbo cars driving around Japanese cities since the 80s that get imported into North America and reliability is of zero concern. If some pimple faced kid is importing a 1JZ twin turbo engine out of a 1990s Toyota and stuffing it into his shitbox drift build then pegging it at redline all day in drift events with zero reliability issues on a 30 year old city driven engine, then I'm pretty sure Toyota put as much engineering effort into a modern turbo engine today.
Glad I saw this. It would be just me using whatever midsize truck I get. I think Toyota has really upped their game. I'm still not sure what 2024 model I'd purchase. I saw some videos from TFL that Toyota is also working on different lift packages as well. So, with all the midsize trucks being redesigned it's just mind boggling which to get.
I had a Taco 2014 TRD off road. I am 6'3 and the primary issue was the seating position. My head basically hit the headliner and I was looking through the top of the windshield. If stye fix the seating position I would consider them again.
I owned a non-hybrid Tundra and it was plenty compared to the hybrid powertrain. Just have to wait to see how this plays out. Will the hybrid be for better torque/towing OR will it be for better fuel economy.
Big improvement. I can't wait to see them in person. I have deposit down, but I still need to decide Pro or Off-Road. My 2023 Colorado TrailBoss will be sent down the road when it gets to the dealer. (24 Tacoma > 23 Colorado > 23 Tacoma)
If you keep your vehicles a long time the V6 is the better option. The hybrid batteries will go bad in 10-15 years and/or about 150k miles so add $5k to the maintenance right there and the i4 turbo is nice but again add some $ to replace the turbo. Also due to the different cooling circuits you need to add some $ for replacing the fluids on the hybrid powertrain. That said the new hybrid powertrain should drive MUCH better day in day out and specially at high altitudes. No contest.
New Tacoma is tempting. They seem to have fixed the issues with last gen. Seating position, it's a lot more powerful and better transmission. Better fuel economy.
Rear seat is going to be a no go. I was hoping they would change it. They are several inches shorter than the competitors. Saw it at the Texas state fair. Nobody over 5’8” will want to be in there for more than a few min.
It’s a midsize truck at the end of the day so that’s not necessarily a ding in my mind. If people moving is a priority a CUV or something might be more appropriate.
For some people it's not about performance.....it's about being simple. For you buying a new truck then getting rid of it in a year and going with something new is different than people who keep it 10 years. I have a 2014 FJ Cruiser, it has never been back to Toyota for 1 single issue. That is the reason I just bought a 2023 4Runner. Hopefully I have a good 10 years with the 4Runner.
Drove a brand new 23 Tacoma as a loaner for a day. Had 7 miles on it. That engine is rough. Getup was extremely slow and felt like the steering wheel wasn’t tightened on with so much wobbling on the freeway. Don’t know why people love that truck. “It’s reliable” there’s no excuse for that extremely outdated truck.
I love the new 2024 Tacoma but I also love my 2021 SR5 4x4 DC V6! I'm a working man and I don't need all the fancy new stuff nor do I need all the headaches of a new generation vehicle (just look at issues with previous models). I will have to wait 4 more years or 200,000 miles on my current truck before its economically feasible to replace it!
There you go folks yet another sales pitch. Go ahead buy the 24 but, sell it before the engine warrenty expires. No manufacturer has had success with a 4 banger turbo, maybe Mercedes Benz in the eighties with a diesel turbo. Toyota joins the long list of manufacturers who build cheap for them engines & very expensive repairs for the loyal customers, youve been warned.
You know we have had small displacement turbocharged engines for the last decade right? Every manufacturer builds them including Toyota with little to no problems.
That trail hunter is sitting on 33s and has a higher suspension height, that’s why you can walk into it. The cab is very similar in spec. Lift the 3rd gen and you’d have the same effect.
Forgot to mention the new Tacoma tow capacity is less also the payload is also less. V6 already proved durability I have to wait and see how the 4 cylinder turbo does long term
Most will argue n/a v6 over anything turbo not necessarily for power but for reliability.... anything turbo charged usually means a cut in long-term reliability.... however if anyone can build a reliable turbo engine it's gotta be Toyota
I don’t disagree necessarily that there will be some effect on longevity but to me it’s nothing that will be too detrimental to actual ownership. And even then being an inline 4 with a single turbo it means it’ll be fairly straightforward to maintain and or repair.
The new turbo 4 in the 2024 Tacoma will also have degraded water pump,, oil pump and cooling system thermostat life because those components will be electric instead of mechanical. They are already electric in the 2018 on up Camry 4 cyl and the water pumps and thermostats have been going bad between 60-100K miles.
5 reasons without even driving them? No comparison over drivetrain? You would have to pay me to trade My 2013 for that new one… regardless if the cool looking trim levels😅
It looks like a great truck and if you could afford it, why not? I mean, its definitely the best next gen mid size pickup truck out there. However, here are some reasons why you shouldn't buy it right now. Insane unexplained/ unjustified markups, there are usually new bugs(faults) on new models, recalls to follow because of new model, and auto loan interest rates are significantly higher than usual. No one is denying that it's a great truck. However, should you buy it right now within the next couple years? Probably not.
Tim, have you had a chance to drive one yet? I really don't like how the last gen drove on the highway especially. I home that the new suspension helps that a lot!
I had the '22 Taco. Never even paid attention to the entry/exit but you're right! I always had to duck my head too! I hated the engine/transmission! It was so sluggish and it always felt like in wrong gears especially slowing down and speeding up. I agree about the aesthetics! I'm glad they finally updated the exterior and interior! Love the new aggressive styling and modern details! The driver seat wasn't uncomfortable but wasn't comfortable either! I def would prefer the new seat! I have also driven the new Tundra! I loved the new turbo! It probably won't last as long as 300-400k miles like the NA but it sure would be a hell a lot more fun!
Never take vehicle buying advice from a journalist. This guy was paid 300 dollars by toyota and he spent a total of 2 hours with the truck... this guy is a schill 10x
Why does youtube recommend this garbage? And I like toyota, more than most. If you want to go anywhere you shouldn't try to push an agenda that you're paid to push. I would have much preferred a video showcasing what the new Tacoma has to offer.
Fun fact: the oversea Hilux is a 1 ton truck. It can haul up to 2778 lbs which is more than the Tundra's max payload rating of 1740 lbs (the TRD pro hauls 1600lbs) and the Taco's payload rating of 640 lbs.
Part of that has to do with suspension components like Leaf springs and coil weight ratings. The new Tundra can definitely handle more with its power, 10.5 differential and beefier axle housing that the Hilux doesnt have. You can most likely change shock and springs to increase extra load. The taco is a little more light duty than the hilux because most people use it as a lifestyle truck and offroad than primarily work. When springs are high weight rating they will give you very bouncy and stiff ride.
Hilux is buy one and keep for generations. Tacoma 2nd and 3rd gen have C frame after the A pillar. The lea fspring shackle is mounted off the frame which is not ideal. I have a Taco 3rd gen and a LN 106 and know how robust the hilux is. Glad taco went back to full box frame. Front suspension is same between both.
Because americans buy trucks and expect them to ride like sedans. Though I do think a diesel hilux would sell really well over here. The ranger is the only european truck you can really buy in the US
@@dawsongranger4940 The euro or international Ranger is not identical to the North American Ranger though. The euro/international Ranger is a 1 ton truck and can haul up to 1235KG or 2723 lbs which is significantly more than the North American Ranger's payload rating of 1805 lbs.
@@electrikoptik Its basically the european model adapted to the american buyer. Closest thing america has to a european truck because its just an adapted european truck
6:18 this guy says, "i haven't driven the new truck" and "im telling you when you drive them youll change your mind." Im mad at toyota for putting this trash out there for us all to see
The 2024 is GORGEOUS! and a complicated expensive mess. I do not see this as having near the same reliability or durability. I'll keep my 2nd gen 2008 access cab with 6.2ft bed. Hey Toyta! Remember when trucks used to be actually USABLE?
Did they increase the rear seating space? The current gens are made pretty much for kids to sit back there. If you have family visiting you with the current gen you might as well have a second vehicle or rent one because no one is going to sit comfortably.
Sadly, no dealer will sell it for MSRP. I know the TRD off road base will be below $50 MSRP, but I’m doomed. Even though $50 is the most I could afford, I refuse to pay that much for a mid size truck that is not even an especialty model
Has anyone done a comparison that any of you Tacoma owners knows of, regarding built quality of a Tacoma assembled in San Antonio, Texas, Guanajuato, Mexico, or Baja Calif. North, Mexico plants? I owned a 2020 Tacoma assembled in the Guanajuato, Mexico plant that was recently totalled out in an accident. I recently purchased a 2020 Tacoma that was assembled in the San Antonio, Texas plant. Both trucks had/have slightly more than 40k miles. The one I have now seems, for lack of a better word, "tighter and more precise", than my other one. Any thoughts/opinions???? Both of mine had/have the 6 speed manual transmission.
Was only looking at full size trucks, specifically a Silverado with the 3.0 Durmax, but I’m strongly considering a new Tacoma. My only concern is I’m a tall dude (6’6”) and if I’m going to feel cramped or if the back seat will become worthless once my seating position is set. What are your thoughts? How tall are you for reference when it comes to entry/exit?
Local dealer acts like 24's aren't out yet. Only 23's with 24 prices. I did notice the metal in the doors., must be the thickness of tin foil. When you shut it it's light as a feather, & reacts like taking the top off a coffee can.
That new Tacoma is only wider because of wheel spacers and fender flares which is the worst way to widen any vehicle. Turbo 4 banger with auxiliary battery power, sounds like a bad day in the making.. It looks more aggressive for sure. The older Tacoma does look like a grand pa's truck and it has the get up and go of one too.
Only one fact matters for me. I will never buy a truck with an undersized engine that is cranked up by twin turbos to have hp and torque number that are impressive on paper but is sure to sacrifice reliability in real driving situations. Climbing hills, towing, and even spirited driving will cause the turbos to run continuously which will overwork the engine and kill mpg’s. No thanks! I’m thankful for my 2020 trd pro taco in army green. I will drive it until the wheels fall off and then switch to a Nissan Frontier.
I couldn’t fit in the old Tacoma so I got 4 runner. For me much better. The new one tried to make more cut lines like the Chevy. Personally I don’t like it. And the motor will never be as dependable as the 6 or the old 4.
Anyone hear of pricing yet? i'm in the market. I need to know because i'm about to pull the trigger on a colorado zr2. Will pricing be similar or astronomical?
All the reasons he talked about why buy the new one over old tacoma are the opposite for me for those same reasons I prefer to buy the old tacoma
New Tacoma looks way better than the new Tundra. Toyota really nailed this new Taco. I’m 6’4 and the old Tacoma interior was confortable, but seating low was an issue.
The Taco is a lot more important to Toyota than the Tundra. I’d bet the Taco R&D budget is at least twice as much.
@@briandownie1688that’s right
I like the tundra. The only time I don't like it is if the grill is chrome or the fu manchu is chrome. When the grill is body color or trd black and the fu man chu is body color or brushed silver I think those look the best.
I love how the new Tundra looks. Everyone has their taste.
Comparing a Top of the line 2024 to a midline SR5 2023. 🤷♂️ I still prefer the 6 to the turbo. Going to look at a 2023 TRD Sport 4x4 long bed today. Luna Rock
Purchased a 2023 TRD Off Road in blue crush metallic in January and after 8 months I have to say I never owned a vehicle I liked more, it’s comfortable, predictable, and the instrumentation inside is everything you need, without any fuss, I actually love it more every day. I’m sure new Tacoma will be great but I don’t think I could ever part with what I got.
Except that you can’t find any of them at the dealship
5 reasons why I prefer my 2022 Tacoma:
1-I got an unbreakable naturally-aspirated V6. I don't want a turbo-4.
2- I like my entertainment head unit, not that unsightly, unnecessarily big ugly protruding head unit of the 2024. I need a truck, not a technology platform full of gadgets.
3- I am 5' 7". I like my seating position, thank you. In and out of the cabin is a breeze.
4- I am more driven by proven quality and familiarity, than by newness. The new Taco is gorgeous, but it has a lot to prove yet.
Jealously gets you know where in life!! 😂
@@doublett3263 I am definitely NOT jealous of your writing skills.
5. Available parts and aftermarket
You should check out the Ridgeline when you buy your next truck. Better V6 and same reliability.
@@Steven-xj2rf Absolutely. I love the Ridgeline.
I realize you didn’t pick the trims but the old Trail edition is based on the SR5. Vs the new TrailHunter is top of the range model now essentially at TRD Pro level. So not a fair comparison. That Trail Hunter is gonna be every bit of $65k-70k. The TRD Off Road will be the hot seller in the new gen Tacoma. Solely based on price relative to options. Waiting a couple of years is the smartest thing as Toyota will be ironing kinks on these new trucks and the lower trims will also get better in options as time passes. It happened with the current gens. Oh then there’s the dealer mark ups. 😅
I have to believe the base price of the 2024 Off Road, Sport, etc. will be every bit of $47K to $50K, putting it out of range for many, including myself.
The new does look good. Old ones with LED lights look good too.
Unfortunately Toyota in America is limiting supplies and normal people are put out of the market!
I love the new Tacoma, but I will wait a year or two for them to work out the bugs.
3rd Gen style is unique. It screams "Tacoma" whenever I see one. But the 4th gen? It just screams "mini Tundra" to me.
Tundras are dope
Just like old Tundra vs. New Tundra, buyers worry that any improvements will be overshadowed by reliability concerns.
Me? I'd put up with the old design to avoid all the issues that make me a Toyota buyer in the first place.
Calm down. That engine has already hit 300k….WE…..So stop crying…. People always talk out their ass without any data.
@@Hernsama Why the butthurt over a valid concern? Did mommy and daddy buy you a kia instead of a real car last year when you turned 17?
@@macdaddyp8437what makes it a valid concern?
@@Hernsama your wrong on so many levels I don’t know where to start, so I won’t. The “data” is out there and it’s never good on new models with new drivetrains. Google it.
@@Hernsama Kinda harsh??
To everyone commenting on the seating position and the sluggish transmission, I have a 2020 trd pro and I HIGHLY recommend:
1. Seat jackers from desert does it which raise the front portion of the seat and tremendously improves seating position. I am 6’2” tall.
2. The overland tune by OV tuning adjusts shift points and throttle response. This 350 ish mod is Amazing and makes the Tacoma feel like a completely different truck.
Indeed, got the DDI on my 2016 Tundra and it's now the perfect seat.
Very tempted to sell my tundra pro and buy a new taco just because they nailed this truck
In a year or two
they will likely make
the Tundra's front
Tacoma-like too.
Never take vehicle buying advice from a journalist. This guy was paid 300 dollars by toyota and he spent a total of 2 hours with the truck, do you really think he understands what youre looking for in a truck?... this guy is a schill 10x
No way that doesn't make sense
@@macbook802 The guy who questioned the head engineer about the problems he had with his own new Tundra? And posted it online? Yeah total schill. I mean all journalists will be somewhat friendly but Tim has literally criticized Toyota about their vehicles.
I wish you’d show if the rear seats have any difference.
Really like the color on the Trail Hunter. Better looking front end. The only thing I don't like is the bed rack behind the cab. Just takes up usable space. Very nice interior. Better size infomat screen and nice gauge lay out. Like the front light bar in the grille. I can take or leave the snorkel. Thanks for the reviw.
The head clearance getting in and out!!! Thank you for that specific info! I had determined that, as much I love the look and features of the 24, if I hit my head getting in I was going to walk away. I’m so glad they fixed this!
Bonks head as he enters the 2024😂
LOL. My angle was off. I was so used to ducking that way to get into the prior gen. You can see me straighten my body and get in normally.
I retract my statement then. And offer this new statement. Your reason for liking an engine that you haven’t even driven yet is based on driving many other turbo charged engines from other manufacturers that have totally different engine architecture and performance characteristics. Most aren’t mild hybrid models in any shape or form. How’s that any better?
I bought a 23 trail edition in June of this year. First Tacoma I’ve owned. So far i really like and it’s been fun making it how I really want it.
All good reasons. But not good enough for me to go from a paid off 2019 to payments on a 2024.
That is probably the best reason not to buy one.
If you are not content with the third gen taco, you’re never be content with the fourth gen when the fifth gen comes out. Money doesn’t grow on trees. Wise choice!
Thanks for sharing the new Trailhunter! I’m first in line at my dealer for it, best part is… they do MSRP for locals! Can’t wait.
How much?
Turbos can easily go 300k miles with proper maintenance, oil changes etc….
We just had a guy on the transit forum go over 400k miles with his 3.5 ecoboost, original engine/turbos, whole drivetrain actually.
Of course we won’t know until they are out in the field for some time, but it can be done.
I dont even know why this is an argument. Toyota along with the rest of JDM land have turbo'd cars forever. Theres nothing worse than city driving wear and tear and you've got turbo cars driving around Japanese cities since the 80s that get imported into North America and reliability is of zero concern. If some pimple faced kid is importing a 1JZ twin turbo engine out of a 1990s Toyota and stuffing it into his shitbox drift build then pegging it at redline all day in drift events with zero reliability issues on a 30 year old city driven engine, then I'm pretty sure Toyota put as much engineering effort into a modern turbo engine today.
3rd gen owner here... I still think the updated 2nd gen was best for drivetrain.
Glad I saw this. It would be just me using whatever midsize truck I get. I think Toyota has really upped their game. I'm still not sure what 2024 model I'd purchase. I saw some videos from TFL that Toyota is also working on different lift packages as well. So, with all the midsize trucks being redesigned it's just mind boggling which to get.
I had a Taco 2014 TRD off road. I am 6'3 and the primary issue was the seating position. My head basically hit the headliner and I was looking through the top of the windshield. If stye fix the seating position I would consider them again.
Did you see the video with the 6’8” guy I had get into the new Tacoma?
He talked about the seating position on the new Tacoma is a lot higher than the old one
Is the regular engine in the new tacoma good enough ? I dont think i want a hybrid. Thank You good stuff you produce always
I owned a non-hybrid Tundra and it was plenty compared to the hybrid powertrain. Just have to wait to see how this plays out. Will the hybrid be for better torque/towing OR will it be for better fuel economy.
I am trying to decide between this and the 2025 rav4. I have a 2017 rav4 and its just so incredibly versatile
Big improvement. I can't wait to see them in person. I have deposit down, but I still need to decide Pro or Off-Road. My 2023 Colorado TrailBoss will be sent down the road when it gets to the dealer. (24 Tacoma > 23 Colorado > 23 Tacoma)
If you keep your vehicles a long time the V6 is the better option. The hybrid batteries will go bad in 10-15 years and/or about 150k miles so add $5k to the maintenance right there and the i4 turbo is nice but again add some $ to replace the turbo. Also due to the different cooling circuits you need to add some $ for replacing the fluids on the hybrid powertrain. That said the new hybrid powertrain should drive MUCH better day in day out and specially at high altitudes. No contest.
New Tacoma is tempting. They seem to have fixed the issues with last gen. Seating position, it's a lot more powerful and better transmission. Better fuel economy.
Rear seat is going to be a no go. I was hoping they would change it. They are several inches shorter than the competitors. Saw it at the Texas state fair. Nobody over 5’8” will want to be in there for more than a few min.
It’s a midsize truck at the end of the day so that’s not necessarily a ding in my mind. If people moving is a priority a CUV or something might be more appropriate.
For some people it's not about performance.....it's about being simple. For you buying a new truck then getting rid of it in a year and going with something new is different than people who keep it 10 years. I have a 2014 FJ Cruiser, it has never been back to Toyota for 1 single issue. That is the reason I just bought a 2023 4Runner. Hopefully I have a good 10 years with the 4Runner.
Tim, great comparison video! Really helpful to see them side by side.
The new Tacoma really has a great chiseled shape! The interior is home run too.
Drove a brand new 23 Tacoma as a loaner for a day. Had 7 miles on it. That engine is rough. Getup was extremely slow and felt like the steering wheel wasn’t tightened on with so much wobbling on the freeway. Don’t know why people love that truck. “It’s reliable” there’s no excuse for that extremely outdated truck.
Toyota KoolAid dulls the senses
I love the new 2024 Tacoma but I also love my 2021 SR5 4x4 DC V6! I'm a working man and I don't need all the fancy new stuff nor do I need all the headaches of a new generation vehicle (just look at issues with previous models). I will have to wait 4 more years or 200,000 miles on my current truck before its economically feasible to replace it!
I'm glad we're continuing to get more Tacoma coverage, but I'm looking forward to Toyota putting some volume/value models out there- SR, SR5, TRD-OR.
I think they have an TRD OR version done. I haven’t seen any SR or SR5 models yet.
Looking forward to hearing driving impressions today.
There you go folks yet another sales pitch. Go ahead buy the 24 but, sell it before the engine warrenty expires. No manufacturer has had success with a 4 banger turbo, maybe Mercedes Benz in the eighties with a diesel turbo. Toyota joins the long list of manufacturers who build cheap for them engines & very expensive repairs for the loyal customers, youve been warned.
You know we have had small displacement turbocharged engines for the last decade right? Every manufacturer builds them including Toyota with little to no problems.
That trail hunter is sitting on 33s and has a higher suspension height, that’s why you can walk into it. The cab is very similar in spec. Lift the 3rd gen and you’d have the same effect.
Forgot to mention the new Tacoma tow capacity is less also the payload is also less. V6 already proved durability I have to wait and see how the 4 cylinder turbo does long term
Most will argue n/a v6 over anything turbo not necessarily for power but for reliability.... anything turbo charged usually means a cut in long-term reliability.... however if anyone can build a reliable turbo engine it's gotta be Toyota
Many million mile ,over the road truckers might disagree .
@@rodgood Not even the same ballpark of turbos.
I don’t disagree necessarily that there will be some effect on longevity but to me it’s nothing that will be too detrimental to actual ownership. And even then being an inline 4 with a single turbo it means it’ll be fairly straightforward to maintain and or repair.
Turbo is a turbo it is all about heat and oil .@@macdaddyp8437
The new turbo 4 in the 2024 Tacoma will also have degraded water pump,, oil pump and cooling system thermostat life because those components will be electric instead of mechanical. They are already electric in the 2018 on up Camry 4 cyl and the water pumps and thermostats have been going bad between 60-100K miles.
Good looking truck for sure. But the new Gen is going to be much more expensive.
Front plate required. How does it look with the plate? New is now an I4?
5 reasons without even driving them? No comparison over drivetrain? You would have to pay me to trade My 2013 for that new one… regardless if the cool looking trim levels😅
Brother has a 2003 V6, 250K, runs like new.
It looks like a great truck and if you could afford it, why not? I mean, its definitely the best next gen mid size pickup truck out there. However, here are some reasons why you shouldn't buy it right now. Insane unexplained/ unjustified markups, there are usually new bugs(faults) on new models, recalls to follow because of new model, and auto loan interest rates are significantly higher than usual.
No one is denying that it's a great truck. However, should you buy it right now within the next couple years? Probably not.
2024 Tacoma is nice.
Tim, have you had a chance to drive one yet? I really don't like how the last gen drove on the highway especially. I home that the new suspension helps that a lot!
Not yet. End of November.
i hated the stereo nobs on the old toyotas. they felt mushy and seemed to not work well over time. im excited to try out the new 2024
I had the '22 Taco.
Never even paid attention to the entry/exit but you're right! I always had to duck my head too!
I hated the engine/transmission! It was so sluggish and it always felt like in wrong gears especially slowing down and speeding up.
I agree about the aesthetics! I'm glad they finally updated the exterior and interior! Love the new aggressive styling and modern details!
The driver seat wasn't uncomfortable but wasn't comfortable either! I def would prefer the new seat!
I have also driven the new Tundra! I loved the new turbo! It probably won't last as long as 300-400k miles like the NA but it sure would be a hell a lot more fun!
Never take vehicle buying advice from a journalist. This guy was paid 300 dollars by toyota and he spent a total of 2 hours with the truck... this guy is a schill 10x
What the hell are you talking about? I got paid 300 dollars?! That's hilarious.
Why does youtube recommend this garbage? And I like toyota, more than most. If you want to go anywhere you shouldn't try to push an agenda that you're paid to push. I would have much preferred a video showcasing what the new Tacoma has to offer.
@@macbook802 Again, what are you talking about? Pushing an agenda???? There are videos on this channel just showcasing what is new.
@@Pickuptrucktalk this guy sounds like a boomer.
@@ALMX5DP 😂 so glad I’m not alone in thinking that way.
Looking forward to this as I love your input. Very well rounded, logical and balanced
That Bronze Oxide is amazing.
Fun fact: the oversea Hilux is a 1 ton truck. It can haul up to 2778 lbs which is more than the Tundra's max payload rating of 1740 lbs (the TRD pro hauls 1600lbs) and the Taco's payload rating of 640 lbs.
Part of that has to do with suspension components like Leaf springs and coil weight ratings. The new Tundra can definitely handle more with its power, 10.5 differential and beefier axle housing that the Hilux doesnt have. You can most likely change shock and springs to increase extra load. The taco is a little more light duty than the hilux because most people use it as a lifestyle truck and offroad than primarily work. When springs are high weight rating they will give you very bouncy and stiff ride.
Hilux is buy one and keep for generations. Tacoma 2nd and 3rd gen have C frame after the A pillar. The lea fspring shackle is mounted off the frame which is not ideal. I have a Taco 3rd gen and a LN 106 and know how robust the hilux is. Glad taco went back to full box frame. Front suspension is same between both.
Because americans buy trucks and expect them to ride like sedans. Though I do think a diesel hilux would sell really well over here. The ranger is the only european truck you can really buy in the US
@@dawsongranger4940 The euro or international Ranger is not identical to the North American Ranger though. The euro/international Ranger is a 1 ton truck and can haul up to 1235KG or 2723 lbs which is significantly more than the North American Ranger's payload rating of 1805 lbs.
@@electrikoptik Its basically the european model adapted to the american buyer. Closest thing america has to a european truck because its just an adapted european truck
I love my 2017 I won't trade it in. But if circumstances change ill buy a second one.
looks like Toyota shit the bed again by not adding front tow hooks… 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
So they moved the co trols around a little and thats suppose to imprees mw for the extra cost
6:18 this guy says, "i haven't driven the new truck" and "im telling you when you drive them youll change your mind." Im mad at toyota for putting this trash out there for us all to see
The 2024 is GORGEOUS! and a complicated expensive mess. I do not see this as having near the same reliability or durability. I'll keep my 2nd gen 2008 access cab with 6.2ft bed. Hey Toyta! Remember when trucks used to be actually USABLE?
Did they increase the rear seating space? The current gens are made pretty much for kids to sit back there. If you have family visiting you with the current gen you might as well have a second vehicle or rent one because no one is going to sit comfortably.
I wouldn't be surprised if it is less roomy than the current gen....also the new back seats do not fold flat
Sadly, no dealer will sell it for MSRP.
I know the TRD off road base will be below $50 MSRP, but I’m doomed. Even though $50 is the most I could afford, I refuse to pay that much for a mid size truck that is not even an especialty model
So Tim, you getting a Taco or Ranger for your new truck this year? Both new....
Has anyone done a comparison that any of you Tacoma owners knows of, regarding built quality of a Tacoma assembled in San Antonio, Texas, Guanajuato, Mexico, or Baja Calif. North, Mexico plants? I owned a 2020 Tacoma assembled in the Guanajuato, Mexico plant that was recently totalled out in an accident. I recently purchased a 2020 Tacoma that was assembled in the San Antonio, Texas plant. Both trucks had/have slightly more than 40k miles. The one I have now seems, for lack of a better word, "tighter and more precise", than my other one. Any thoughts/opinions???? Both of mine had/have the 6 speed manual transmission.
They are all built to the same standard. It isn't a location thing. The final line inspection is the same for all plants including Japan.
That window on new double cab looks tiny compared to the old model
Was only looking at full size trucks, specifically a Silverado with the 3.0 Durmax, but I’m strongly considering a new Tacoma. My only concern is I’m a tall dude (6’6”) and if I’m going to feel cramped or if the back seat will become worthless once my seating position is set.
What are your thoughts? How tall are you for reference when it comes to entry/exit?
i'd rather go farther, slower in the i.c.e than the 4 with the turbos. i do love the styling of the 24' though
ICE stands for internal combustion engine. You meant to say NA engine which means naturally aspirated.
Everybody with a current gen Tacoma trying to find reasons there's better lol. New one all day!!
Hey Tim,
Will you get a 2024 to review?
Yup.
Man I love new Tacoma
Great video Tim thanks!
I want the old v6 with a hybrid add-on
If we’re playing fantasy I’d take the 2TR inline 4 (2.7L) and hybridize that.
Thanks
Just noticed, the 2024 dash air vents resemble the front grill. They do look better than the big round ones. I've never cared for those.
The new Tacoma looks sharp!
The important question is : how big the markup will be?
Local dealer acts like 24's aren't out yet. Only 23's with 24 prices. I did notice the metal in the doors., must be the thickness of tin foil. When you shut it it's light as a feather, & reacts like taking the top off a coffee can.
What's the price differential? I bet it's over $10k...
No pricing announcement yet.
That new Tacoma is only wider because of wheel spacers and fender flares which is the worst way to widen any vehicle. Turbo 4 banger with auxiliary battery power, sounds like a bad day in the making.. It looks more aggressive for sure. The older Tacoma does look like a grand pa's truck and it has the get up and go of one too.
Only one fact matters for me. I will never buy a truck with an undersized engine that is cranked up by twin turbos to have hp and torque number that are impressive on paper but is sure to sacrifice reliability in real driving situations. Climbing hills, towing, and even spirited driving will cause the turbos to run continuously which will overwork the engine and kill mpg’s. No thanks! I’m thankful for my 2020 trd pro taco in army green. I will drive it until the wheels fall off and then switch to a Nissan Frontier.
I was with you until you said Nissan. 😏
I couldn’t fit in the old Tacoma so I got 4 runner. For me much better. The new one tried to make more cut lines like the Chevy. Personally I don’t like it. And the motor will never be as dependable as the 6 or the old 4.
Back seat is useless in the current gen. Did they fix the seats?😊
even more useless on the '24 because there's a bit less legroom compared to the current gen.
Why does no one really talk about the rear leg room and volume of the rear seats.
How much will it cost to replace the turbos when they go out?
If they go out, they are around $2-3k. This is based on the Ford F-150 EcoBoost I researched a decade ago when turbos going out was a big concern.
Why is turbos plural? This is an inline 4 with a single turbo so shouldn’t be bad in terms of cost or time and effort to replace.
@@ALMX5DP 😂
Are the bed dimensions basically the same ?
Yup.
How’s the back seat? Same on leg room??
Anyone hear of pricing yet? i'm in the market. I need to know because i'm about to pull the trigger on a colorado zr2. Will pricing be similar or astronomical?
When do you get to drive the new 2024’s?
is the back seat leg room still shit?
“I go…*bumps head*…right in”
Agree 100%
Is the 2024 Tacoma your next long term test truck?
It is in the running for sure.
Price and comfort and comfort comes first
We all know you're going to get one for the channel... just don't make it blue.😊
No V6 no thanks
Never could get comfortable in the old Tacoma. Also hated that gutless V6 and 6 speed combination, which didn’t get good fuel economy either.
Not sure why more test drives do not talk about getting in and out of vehicles. If a shorter person hit their head can you imagine a taller person
How wide is the bed between the wheel wells
I'll never buy a turbo engine again. They just don't last.
You should get a Trailhunter for the channel.
I want to see it in person but im here in california 😞
⛔🤔🤔 How much for the diff. trims?
No pricing yet.
Pricing is crazy high for the new Taco