I played all of the official games, read the book, seen the mini games but don’t ask me either because the “lore” is all over the place. It makes the original FNAF lore feel simple ;-;
If there's one thing I gotta admire about the guy, despite being terrible at making fan games, books, or just fiction in general, I really respect his drive. He doesn't stop even when he's told how much he sucks. He's like Starscream in that he doesn't quit and seizes every opportunity he can get.
YOU KNOW WHAT? I can't tell you how much I admire this man's gumption, to just keep going. For real, when everyone said: "That's enough, you stole, you tried to trick people with the title, and the game isn't good." Tyler rolled up his sleeves, and forced his vision into the world, before he could even legally drive. I respect that. I will never play these games, but I respect that they exist. Despite people not wanting them to.
I agree. This game made me start one of my first ever story lines that I’ve made and something that I’m really proud of, and I wouldn’t have done it without trtf’s existence. (And also DSaF, pretty much the story is a combination between DSaF and TRtF, which I know sounds bad, but a lot of people liked it when I posted the first chapter) so. Live laugh love lockjaw
@@concept5631 when you develop games, make movies or write books you pretty much have to be some kind of demigod with perfect personality for everyone to not go at your throat.
I like that Emil asked this guy "hey get rid of my character that you obviously stole from me" and then Tyler went "ok" and did the bare minimum to 'redesign' Sugar. "Oh its a different design now" no its not Tyler, it objectively is not. There are Sonic recolor OCs more original than that.
@@wildcrochunter6724 So? Regardless, how at all was he a victim? He was the one doing all the crappy stuff regardless of his age. It's not at all like we're going out and harassing him ot anything, we're simply critisicing and laughing at his long list of errors .
The funniest part is when he pretends to be some kind of galaxy-brained mastermind that fooled the world rather than just admit he had no idea what he was doing beyond stealing assets, designs, and ideas from everyone popular at the time.
As a man who has talked to tyler ahlstrom in very recent years, he has chilled out and is a very nice guy, he was a victim of being edgy in a phase when he was young.
I always called the goofy green guy who slipped on a bar of soap and fell into a springlock suit from Return to Freddy’s 4 “the Jester” because when my young brain looked at him he looked like a Jester with those three sharp things on his head. Apparently his actual name is Gron which I honestly think is the funniest name I’ve ever heard for a character ever.
Garvey's audio tapes in Dormitabis is just a teen doing a joker impression and being forced to read the devs barely disguised self insert FNAF Child r#%e fanfic.
@@_-Lx-_I feel bad for that VA because he has stated in another review of Dormitabis that he was unconformable with the original script and even after he asked for it to be changed, he still felt so terrible voicing it. And the joker voice, he said he didn't know what to do with that...he just did it because there was not a lot of input...
It will sound sound weird but I personally like tyler's later design in 3 and 4, the way the faces are deformed and the kind of realistic looking eyes gives them a lot of uncannyness, intentional or not
The fourth game is probably my favorite in the serious due to how weird they look, and I can see what you mean by how uncanny they look since they’re definitely not like any other animatronic design that most of the popular fnaf fan games make
One thing I love about the "slipped into a suit" scene is that, since there was no real indication of what was going on, a lot of people at the time thought he slipped on a _stick of butter_
Hey, one of the TRTF Wiki moderators here, just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions and throw in some more facts that I feel are pertinent to certain points: -Emil Macko has confirmed in an interview with Gomotion that TRTF1 indeed did inspire the FNaC series. It also didn't help that there were already rumors of a secret cat animatronic in the real FNaF 2, hidden in the Prize Corner camera, and with people thinking this was actually the real FNaF 3, some people thought this meant that Candy/Sugar appeared in FNaF 2... yeah, you can see the problem. -11:53 That "human looking thing" in the corner is the same person as the one in the minigame at 12:12, and that is to say, he's BFP. These are the first instances of BFP in the series. Apparently. -12:27 Purple Guy _is_ the TRTF 1 Phone Guy, that's what this minigame is trying to show; he's not the FNaF 1 Security Guard. -Honestly, even amongst the TRTF loregods, _nobody_ understands what's going on in the minigames. And frankly I don't think Tyler did either. -In TRTF 1, BFP possesses the Puppet. Yep. Don't ask. It's never even explained, I don't think. And in TRTF 2, he possesses literally every single animatronic present. Also in TRTF 1, while he doesn't possess the other animatronics, they are given life by him, as they only activate once the Puppet has passed by them. So, essentially BFP controls every single antagonist in the first two games. -Not a misconception but you didn't show Kitty FazCat's design in the TRTF 2 Alpha and for that you get one penalty. Just look at this, please: justanotherdayinfreddy.fandom.com/wiki/File:TRTF2Kittyalphamodel.png -There was a scrapped ending for TRTF 3, called the "Sad Ending," although we have no idea of how it would've been achieved, and it can only be accessed by digging through the game's files. To copy and paste from the wiki, "It's a minigame where BFP walks up to a computer, falls to the floor, and bleeds out to death while crying." -Uhh... That's, not the real TRTF 4 in the background footage whilst talking about TRTF 4. Looks to be a fan-remake, which granted, are a-plenty. - You got everything about that TRTF 4 Night 5 minigame right. -Yep, killer bar of soap.-* Although I need to point out that Grön (Green Guy's name, which literally just means "Green" in Swedish. Note that Tyler is indeed part-swedish,) he did appear previously in one of the secret minigames needed for the Good Ending in TRTF 3. In fact, because that was literally the only time he appeared in that game, people thought he was supposed to be Vigo, the Snake, with a body. *No, nope, I'm dum, apparently I got it wrong too. It's later confirmed to be a piece of trash. My bad, moving on. -Initially BFP was supposed to be the Protagonist of TRTF 5, although that got scrapped and, the role was just taken up by an unrelated investigator. -Yes, the animatronics are doing the stripping at FRANKBURT'S. Maybe also... a bit more than that? Wink. Wink. -Sally and Koly, those rando animatronics from TRTF 4, were going to reappear in RADSLA, which was going the show the events that take place at Gilbert Facility at the start of the timeline. And by the way, RADSLA is Swedish for fear. No, Sweden doesn't have anything to do with the story, just saying it's not random letter garble. Also for people who don't want to read the book, Alison is an American mafioso who breaks into Gilbert Facility, and the Torture suits are literally made to punish and kill the employees at Fazbear Inc. Mhm. -The Road That Falls is going to be a huge project. There's actually two games planned for it: TRTF, and TRTF:V. Notice that V is the roman numeral for 5, and that TRT-Freddy's 5 was by far the most famous of the original games. Also while not officially announced, dedicated fans have discovered that he's working on secret projects titled "Lockjaw" and "Radsla," so we may actually be seeing a lot of old ideas coming back in new forms. Time will tell.
>-Not a misconception but you didn't show Kitty FazCat's design in the TRTF 2 Alpha and for that you get one penalty. Just look at this, please: Holy shit this is incredible. >BFP walks up to a computer, falls to the floor, and bleeds out to death while crying. Gamers, the most oppressed group :V
Fun fact: in the original release of the game idk if they fixed it or not but the animatronics wouldn’t even move until you opened the camera and they moved based on how much you flipped the camera
Sort of: They moved regardless, although flipping between cameras sped up their movement a lot. On Night 1, if you never looked at the cams, the Puppet wouldn't move fast enough to ever enter your office, but if you switched between cams a ton of times really fast, you could get yourself killed by 1 AM. I'm pretty sure they never fixed it in TRTF 1, although it didn't carry over to any of the next games.
Fun fact: in the first The Return To freddies(and Fnaf 3(Fan Made)) if just, Sit there and do Nothing, you win by default. This works every night. And also, shifting through the cameras speeds up the animatronics' movement, moving them one step forwards every camera shift Every night is also entirely scripted, so theoratically you could speedrun the first TRTF game by mashing the cameras and surviving with the extremely precise mask usage. Edit: by "doing nothing" I mean not opening the cameras, at all.
There's times where I kinda wished the old TRTF fan-games actually did well, and especially TRTF5. As someone who's been heavily involved with following everything for TRTF, I nowadays feel extremely distant these days from this series due to how very blind and defensive I used to be about Tyler and how overall messy and questionable the series was, without realizing how bad his controversies were. But TRTF5 in particular has always had something special in my eyes. I always liked the designs of the torture animatronics, the environmental design of the building and it's rooms, and the use of old music that you'd hear from Fallout 4. There's times where I do wish that the 5th entry wasn't cancelled, and I remember even Scott Cawthon commented on one of the trailers expressing how cool it looked to him, but sadly you can't see it anymore due to the video being deleted. Imagine if this fan-game would gotten into the Fazbear Fanverse Initiative if Tyler and the series wasn't so deep rooted in controversies and he had it more thought out and handled better. I do hope that Tyler can have the ability to redeem himself for the future, especially since he's much older now, but my God do I look back now with more bad memories than good, especially since back then I was friends with some pretty toxic people at the time.
It’s also important to note that tyler was really young during the beginning but now could potentially make something great with the series if he tried. Hopefully the new, The Road That Falls game is something that isn’t canceled so we can see what he is currently capable of. Only time will tell though
@@insomniacloserxo Yeah exactly, with him being much more older now, I can't help but feel curious, and I'm hoping to see if he's majorly improved since then, both in the story-telling/game management sense, but also improved on himself mentally too, because I know how much he's struggled a lot with that in the past. I like to believe there's always a chance to become a better person if someone at least tries slowly but surely. So with that said, I do hope The Road That Falls will be good when it comes out.
The Return to Freddy's caught my interest years ago due to its 5th entry being a free roam from ground up. I was really interested in a FNAF fan game that would be a free roam instead of being locked in a place (I mean free roam created in the FNAF engine, not any of the free roam games made on Unreal, etc) and also Torture animatronics and this whole industrial complex or whatever it was.. it had a huge atmosphere and potential.. such a shame it got cancelled when the series was finally becoming more original and unique..
Fun Fact: while the movement in FNAF 3 Fan made and the first TRTF game is scripted it turns out the animatronics only move when if you switch between different cams so you can legit beat the entire game without even opening up the cams
I don't agree that he is "waste of imagination", like.....C'MON, his design is maybe one of the most "creative" & suignificant designs I have ever saw in a FNaF fan-games history. Like....how often you see a FNaF-style animatronic which is NOT a humanoid/anthropomorphic, & looks like an ACTUAL robotic animal?
all my feelings changed when you mentioned he was 15 and younger when these games were being made. he was an actual kid. a little kid making his own video game, even something as rough as the first one...? straight on the fridge. right on the top. should he steal? nope. but its on the fridge anyway. Saying he ''didn't put any work into his games'' when he was 3D modelling, animating and making entire ass video games as a CHILD is completely false. a kid actually completing a project is so rare - and he improved FAST!!! like how frequently were these games coming out? Months?? multiple games within the same school year, even when he has having problems like his girlfriend breaking up with him. Wow. I don't expect a 14/15 yr old to have the introspection and self critique needed to improve quickly, and yet he DID. Amazing.
What'd you mean making entire ass video games? He copied mechanics from other people. He copied character designs and jumpscare animations from other people. He copied enviroments from other people. He was as close as you could get to straight up copying entire games without actually doing it, almost all of it without giving the deserved credit.
37:03 i always assumed the reason there would be soap there was green guy was using the soap to clean the blood off the floor from where he killed the kid on the wall, basically cover his tracks. doesnt make as much sense saying it out loud when you consider the kid's body is just hanging from the wall plain for anyone to see, but thats literally the only reason i can think of why there'd be soap there.
Really nice video! Regarding reptile animatronics in the fangame side of things, there was this one series titled "Fazbear's Return" and in the 2nd game there's an alligator and a dragon called Joe and Vasco respectively. There's definitely an older example somewhere out there but that's one of the few I could remember.
Btw, the versions of The Return To Freddy's 5 that I saw steals sound effects and some of the soundtrack from Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs, one of my favorite horror games of all time. The opening of the oldest version even plagiarizes the opening of the game just with some of the sound effects switched around and the pitch lowered.
You know, one of the sound effects from Amnesia was used within that series. It depicts a little child screaming and crying frantically. I always wondered where it came from and what the sound effect is called. I've asked a few fans of Trtf, but they have zero clue about it. But, I'll keep looking for it. The sound plays during a minigame from the collection of minigames associated with Trtf 5's story and for one of the endings where BFP hangs himself (pretty fucked up, to be honest). The reason why I want to have this sound effect is that I thought about making my own Fnaf fan game series if I get into contact with people who're modelers, coders, and overall fans of Fnaf.
Honestly it was a breathtaking scene when Gron slipped on a bar of soap and said "HELP ME VINCENT IM GRONNNIN" as he fell into the golden lockjaw suit.
This game looked gorgeous, and the demos were cool, but it was way too ambitious and scattershot. I’m intrigued to see how Ahlstrom’s Kriya Studios stuff turns out.
Man I remember streaming me playing this series to my friends on discord and half of that time was just us laughing about how ugly and dumb everything looks, oh and laughing about "super cancer" being a real thing in their universe
@@vincerizzo1401 and what if that person self inserts in the opposite way? Hmmm? What if he shows what he's like? What if he made it as the epitome of how others see him? Then would it be bad?
I didn't noticed that obsession with government in the lore, I wonder where it came from, was it just lack of ideas, or was it simply because they watched huge amount of movies where plot involved government? Anyway what i liked about the original THRTF 4 was atmosphere, sound design and lock jaws design because it seems like the character's design was inspired by Freddy Kruger.
yaknow, after a lot of what I have seen through the years, it's nice to just see a genuine attempt at a fangame series and to not have be tainted by anything other than lack of quality.
I enjoy seeing these TRTF videos, I was a fan back in the day but my God, was it such a mess lol, however I still hold a special place in my heart for this series after so long.
You can definitely tell these were made by a kid. And that's not a bad thing. Almost every child has amazing stories to tell, but has no idea how to tell them. They can put the plots out but not know how to properly flesh them out. It's very normal. But the plagiarism and the fact that this is FNAF definitely got him excessive hate. He was a weird kid, we all were
I remember spending one night a few years ago just reading tons of stuff on the TRTF wiki and feeling like every page opened up at least two new questions and gave zero answers. I had known it was bad but I had no idea of the true horrors until that night... and I didn't even know about the super cancer until now. This was a fun video, even if it was long. I had to laugh when you couldn't read "Poniator" or "Bio Ninja Games" but hey, this series was melting your brain, a few mistakes here and there are understandable! Also I imagine BFP is a mix of BFB and P'oniator but I'm sure others have said that already. The worst thing about this series to me......... is that the creator shares my name and is less than a year younger than me. I feel like he's my cursed clone.
fun fact about the 8-bit music track in one of the TRTF remastered teaser games: it is a royalty free song and the stuff the woman is saying is literally “audio jungle” I just thought that was funny
for being cringe as a teenager, you have to at least respect that Tyler at least isn't a horrible person. he just did cringy things when he was a teenager, and let's be honest we all were
36:36 It isn't the fact that Gron slips on soap that angers me. It isn't the fact Gron somehow perfectly manages to get the entire suit on. IT'S THAT GRON FALLS IN, FACING THE SUIT, AND WHEN HE GETS SPRINGLOCKED, HE'S FACING BFP
43:24 _D e a t h_ Bed, that song makes me cry... It's just so sad... But that's definitely _"Out of bed"_ 44:52 _"Why hello there, Old Sport, tis I, the elusive Aubergine man, like what you see?"_ 1:03:58 The up in quality is sooooo Impressive, Started as: The return to Freddy's: Which was Cringy and had a badly told Story... And badly detailed... But now The road that falls: With a very well detailed Trailer and well designed Animatronics, I'm honestly Impressed with how far Tyler has come !!
I guess this fangame was one of, alongside Treasure Island and Wario's (etc), to kickstart the era of FNAF fangames. While clearly bad in most aspects, TRTF was undoubtedly that one classic bootleg which served to help the FNAF fanbase develop to release future projects such as Fanverse. Small Fun Fact: Apparently the very, very first FNAF fangame to be ever released was a game called Five Nights at Chuck E Cheese on Roblox, having released exactly 2 months after the first FNAF released.
I've seen a lot of fangames being pointed as the first one... Treasure Island Demo, Five Nights at McDonald's and that strange Doom build or something, but I've never heard about that Roblox map
@@jajaleco When an indie game tends to get really popular, like Lethal Company and Poppy Playtime, Roblox is usually the first to come with fanmade games that are actually just copies so that Roblox devs can grab a quick buck lol
I remembwr The Return to Freddy's way back then, i remember seeing spanish youtubers from the time playing it and being so incredibly hyped about it, "stolen assets meshed together" fbaf fangames eere an entire genre of their own
I still remember a youtube comment from Tyler where someone was giving criticism and Tyler's response was something narcissistic like: "you can't decide what I should do, I am a grown up and I can make my own decisions". Maybe it wasn't even Tyler but some other controversial fnaf fangame dev
I think the inclusion of Emil macko as a character was meant to be a homage or shout out rather than an insult. The creator was a kid at the time, and I don’t think they understood that taking other people’s stuff for a free fan game was wrong
I really do appreciate that you kept things mostly positive and just the unintentionally funny bits of these games speak for themselves. (And not saying cringe every other sentence throughout the video)
That music from the 5th game's 8-bit mini game was a small clip from don't go to bed (coffee for your head). I recognized it almost immediately because I've listened to the song recently.
The best thing about this video is Insomniac pronoucing "Bio Ninja games" as "bion ja games". Jokes aside, great video man, found you randomly on my youtube page and i will definitely going follow your work!☺
The Road That Falls isn't actually a FNaF Fangame, its a original game that Tyler is publishing under Kriya Studios AKA his officially licensed company.
I've always wondered why "Kitty Fazcat" said that she never wanted to talk about her fnaf era before, know I can understand not being reminded of that whole mess. xD
@@insomniacloserxo true but in night 6 in 5am you see golden lock jaw and when I saw him jump scare me at first I just jumped so bfp made trtf 4 was scary and funny also good job on your video man
43:19 "Purchase your track" could be from a sound buying site, seems like Tyler didn't buy it, as I've heard it some tracks (mainly rain sounds) as well
Reading the excerpts of that horrific excuse of a novel genuinely took all the energy out of me. I wrote more coherant stuff than he did when i was 13 writing my first strory fur fox ache. Though i must say, i do consider writing to be my profession, and i suppose due to the experience such profession yields, reading that makes me wonder... " what the fok are you on about?" Innit.
Can mildly confirm that the models look like something from the early stages if a FnaF roblox RP game called TTRP before they improved the character creator and the models in general
Especially when you realize that minaxa legit ignored every single bit of drama with the creator in his one night at flumptys video, but proceeded to slam a child into the ground.
Was... Was the strip club thing based on that weird ass theory for Sister Location? There was this person who theorized Sister Location was going to be an adult establishment,I think Scott himself stepped in very damn confused on WHAT about his game history gave the idea he would do that
TBF, all these games really do give an impression of a really ambitious and dedicated kid who really wants to become popular as an indie developer, like Scott. And not in a mean way. Knowing he started his series when he wasn't even 16 & looking at his current progress in game/model creation, he really does impress. But, counting the novel/plot he wrote, his multiple cancelled projects & counselling stuff, I hope he's doing okay right now. I'd imagine having not that small attention surrounding you (which is probably somewhat negative/toxic too) would fuck you up a little, especially at a young age as well
"While he was designing fangames of his favourite series, you probably were playing Roblox when you were 15" Nope, I was just as much of a cringelord as him when it comes to creative work. lol
The animatronic strip club was literally a Day Shift at Freddy’s gag. But your version of William Afton being the stripper is even funnier! I mean how else was he supposed to pay for a giant underground Murder anamatronic storage facility?
This is my first time hearing about these fan games and developer. But I would not be surprised if he considered himself a “struggling artist” 😂 I just get that vibe from him lol
17:26 And this is one of the reasons I love when Quentin Tarantino shows up in one of his own movies, cause he has enough self-awareness to not do this, and just ends up dying horrifically.
Even if The Return to Freddy's series is a complete trainwreck...I can't help but like it. The original TRTF series itself is so tacky and ridiculous in a way that I can't bring myself to hate. The remakes of these games (especially TRTF: Winter Wonderland) are actually really good!
Despite that fact what tyler did was horrible at least it’s what he did was not bad then what blackouts did………………plus the return to freddy is a mess.but it’s we’ll be always our special mass………
I've watched like 6 different videos on this fangame and if you asked me to explain the plot of it, I still wouldn't be able to.
it's even more incomprehensible than the fnaf plot currently, and yet the trtf lore actually ended
Supercancer
Same. The literal only thing I remember is “super cancer”
I played all of the official games, read the book, seen the mini games but don’t ask me either because the “lore” is all over the place. It makes the original FNAF lore feel simple ;-;
90% immortal Allison and uh the super cancers
"the goverment has come to a decision to make animatronics legal again" funniest line I read today
That would explain why freddy was deployed in Afghanistan and nobody batted an eye...
Freddy Fazbear in Afghanistan was considered a war crime I guess
"Make animatronics great again"
Idk bro the super cancer bit from the novel was legendary
I think the part for me is "the government" not any specific one. Just the government. I guess the global federation government
If there's one thing I gotta admire about the guy, despite being terrible at making fan games, books, or just fiction in general, I really respect his drive. He doesn't stop even when he's told how much he sucks. He's like Starscream in that he doesn't quit and seizes every opportunity he can get.
He reminds me of Ernesto DeLacruz
@@LordWyatt he kinda also reminds me of Jimmy Mcgill as well
He reminds me Yzma.
He reminds me of jimmy fallon
he reminds me of jimmy neutron
YOU KNOW WHAT? I can't tell you how much I admire this man's gumption, to just keep going. For real, when everyone said: "That's enough, you stole, you tried to trick people with the title, and the game isn't good." Tyler rolled up his sleeves, and forced his vision into the world, before he could even legally drive. I respect that. I will never play these games, but I respect that they exist. Despite people not wanting them to.
Given how many times his games have been remade, I'd say it worked out in the end.
I agree.
This game made me start one of my first ever story lines that I’ve made and something that I’m really proud of, and I wouldn’t have done it without trtf’s existence. (And also DSaF, pretty much the story is a combination between DSaF and TRtF, which I know sounds bad, but a lot of people liked it when I posted the first chapter) so. Live laugh love lockjaw
He’s actually kind of based. Literal underdog story and i feel bad about all the hate he gets
@@wildcrochunter6724 He was pretty edgy and scummy for a bit lets be fair. He's grown as a person sure, but he does deserve criticism.
@@concept5631 when you develop games, make movies or write books you pretty much have to be some kind of demigod with perfect personality for everyone to not go at your throat.
I like that Emil asked this guy "hey get rid of my character that you obviously stole from me" and then Tyler went "ok" and did the bare minimum to 'redesign' Sugar. "Oh its a different design now" no its not Tyler, it objectively is not. There are Sonic recolor OCs more original than that.
He's doing the same thing with Bonnie now while trying to sell the new game on PS5.
Original the character, do not steal.
You Tyler was a kid right. You’re “it’s not Tyler, it objectively is not” moment is not a cool moment 💀💀💀
This poor kid bro
@@wildcrochunter6724
How TF was he poor?
He was actively being a douche to a bunch of people, both those online and those he actually knew.
@@_-Lx-_ he was like 12-15 during that time
@@wildcrochunter6724
So?
Regardless, how at all was he a victim?
He was the one doing all the crappy stuff regardless of his age.
It's not at all like we're going out and harassing him ot anything, we're simply critisicing and laughing at his long list of errors .
The funniest part is when he pretends to be some kind of galaxy-brained mastermind that fooled the world rather than just admit he had no idea what he was doing beyond stealing assets, designs, and ideas from everyone popular at the time.
Reminds me of Nicoavocado Speech. 😂
As a man who has talked to tyler ahlstrom in very recent years, he has chilled out and is a very nice guy, he was a victim of being edgy in a phase when he was young.
Interesting
Character development arc
Tyler did a whole 180 right there. Man went from taking his FNAF phase into a comical extreme, to making that looks surprisingly competent.
Here's hoping he takes his story in a different direction. I believe in em
I could believe that
I always called the goofy green guy who slipped on a bar of soap and fell into a springlock suit from Return to Freddy’s 4 “the Jester” because when my young brain looked at him he looked like a Jester with those three sharp things on his head. Apparently his actual name is Gron which I honestly think is the funniest name I’ve ever heard for a character ever.
Apparently it's Swedish for green.
I used to call him "The Green Jester"
Technically Jester is actual Gron's namesake. Also, this sharp things on his head is an actual jester hat
How can you even come up with something like Super Cancer... Tyler is such a creative writer.
If he kept going we would have had hyper cancer
For all I know, cancer is already uncurable
Tyler predicted TftPP?
ULTRACANCER
@@sunnyisabunny1479 the sequel was a trainwreck tbh
If you thought this series was bad, wait until you hear about the history behind Dormitabis.
Man, dormitabis is SOMETHING...
@@bernardo4628 And that something is a game (which it isn't).
Holy hell don't remind me of the dirty mess of Dormitabis
Garvey's audio tapes in Dormitabis is just a teen doing a joker impression and being forced to read the devs barely disguised self insert FNAF Child r#%e fanfic.
@@_-Lx-_I feel bad for that VA because he has stated in another review of Dormitabis that he was unconformable with the original script and even after he asked for it to be changed, he still felt so terrible voicing it. And the joker voice, he said he didn't know what to do with that...he just did it because there was not a lot of input...
It will sound sound weird but I personally like tyler's later design in 3 and 4, the way the faces are deformed and the kind of realistic looking eyes gives them a lot of uncannyness, intentional or not
The fourth game is probably my favorite in the serious due to how weird they look, and I can see what you mean by how uncanny they look since they’re definitely not like any other animatronic design that most of the popular fnaf fan games make
uncanny*
I like your KKHTA Satori icon
@@dmpokemontrainer funnily enough i found this image before i knew what kkhta was lol
@@diceymcniceyNobody cares. Not a single person.
Gron slipping on a bar of soap and just magically falling into the suit ALWAYS GETS ME!
Freddy’s design in return to Freddy’s 2 and Tyler’s writing is scarier than anything I have ever seen in a FNAF fan game.
the super cancer can literally make you die...from cringe and laughter, that is
Ahh yes, “Super cancer”
I am afraid of the remaining 10% of immortality I'm missing
than you'd be horrified by dormitabis
@@ABlueThing Obviously, the remaining 10% is in the snail.
One thing I love about the "slipped into a suit" scene is that, since there was no real indication of what was going on, a lot of people at the time thought he slipped on a _stick of butter_
Hey, one of the TRTF Wiki moderators here, just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions and throw in some more facts that I feel are pertinent to certain points:
-Emil Macko has confirmed in an interview with Gomotion that TRTF1 indeed did inspire the FNaC series. It also didn't help that there were already rumors of a secret cat animatronic in the real FNaF 2, hidden in the Prize Corner camera, and with people thinking this was actually the real FNaF 3, some people thought this meant that Candy/Sugar appeared in FNaF 2... yeah, you can see the problem.
-11:53 That "human looking thing" in the corner is the same person as the one in the minigame at 12:12, and that is to say, he's BFP. These are the first instances of BFP in the series. Apparently.
-12:27 Purple Guy _is_ the TRTF 1 Phone Guy, that's what this minigame is trying to show; he's not the FNaF 1 Security Guard.
-Honestly, even amongst the TRTF loregods, _nobody_ understands what's going on in the minigames. And frankly I don't think Tyler did either.
-In TRTF 1, BFP possesses the Puppet. Yep. Don't ask. It's never even explained, I don't think. And in TRTF 2, he possesses literally every single animatronic present. Also in TRTF 1, while he doesn't possess the other animatronics, they are given life by him, as they only activate once the Puppet has passed by them. So, essentially BFP controls every single antagonist in the first two games.
-Not a misconception but you didn't show Kitty FazCat's design in the TRTF 2 Alpha and for that you get one penalty. Just look at this, please: justanotherdayinfreddy.fandom.com/wiki/File:TRTF2Kittyalphamodel.png
-There was a scrapped ending for TRTF 3, called the "Sad Ending," although we have no idea of how it would've been achieved, and it can only be accessed by digging through the game's files. To copy and paste from the wiki, "It's a minigame where BFP walks up to a computer, falls to the floor, and bleeds out to death while crying."
-Uhh... That's, not the real TRTF 4 in the background footage whilst talking about TRTF 4. Looks to be a fan-remake, which granted, are a-plenty.
- You got everything about that TRTF 4 Night 5 minigame right. -Yep, killer bar of soap.-* Although I need to point out that Grön (Green Guy's name, which literally just means "Green" in Swedish. Note that Tyler is indeed part-swedish,) he did appear previously in one of the secret minigames needed for the Good Ending in TRTF 3. In fact, because that was literally the only time he appeared in that game, people thought he was supposed to be Vigo, the Snake, with a body.
*No, nope, I'm dum, apparently I got it wrong too. It's later confirmed to be a piece of trash. My bad, moving on.
-Initially BFP was supposed to be the Protagonist of TRTF 5, although that got scrapped and, the role was just taken up by an unrelated investigator.
-Yes, the animatronics are doing the stripping at FRANKBURT'S. Maybe also... a bit more than that? Wink. Wink.
-Sally and Koly, those rando animatronics from TRTF 4, were going to reappear in RADSLA, which was going the show the events that take place at Gilbert Facility at the start of the timeline. And by the way, RADSLA is Swedish for fear. No, Sweden doesn't have anything to do with the story, just saying it's not random letter garble. Also for people who don't want to read the book, Alison is an American mafioso who breaks into Gilbert Facility, and the Torture suits are literally made to punish and kill the employees at Fazbear Inc. Mhm.
-The Road That Falls is going to be a huge project. There's actually two games planned for it: TRTF, and TRTF:V. Notice that V is the roman numeral for 5, and that TRT-Freddy's 5 was by far the most famous of the original games. Also while not officially announced, dedicated fans have discovered that he's working on secret projects titled "Lockjaw" and "Radsla," so we may actually be seeing a lot of old ideas coming back in new forms. Time will tell.
🤨 *insert boom sound*
Its hilarious knowing all of these
>-Not a misconception but you didn't show Kitty FazCat's design in the TRTF 2 Alpha and for that you get one penalty. Just look at this, please:
Holy shit this is incredible.
>BFP walks up to a computer, falls to the floor, and bleeds out to death while crying.
Gamers, the most oppressed group :V
@@higueraft571 You're not wrong lmao
@@sanek-puppet-463 Ho damn, someone knows their stuff...
Fun fact: in the original release of the game idk if they fixed it or not but the animatronics wouldn’t even move until you opened the camera and they moved based on how much you flipped the camera
Sort of: They moved regardless, although flipping between cameras sped up their movement a lot. On Night 1, if you never looked at the cams, the Puppet wouldn't move fast enough to ever enter your office, but if you switched between cams a ton of times really fast, you could get yourself killed by 1 AM.
I'm pretty sure they never fixed it in TRTF 1, although it didn't carry over to any of the next games.
I think Frankbert's was based on the adult theory that Scott had to quickly debunk before Sister location came out.
Fun fact: in the first The Return To freddies(and Fnaf 3(Fan Made)) if just, Sit there and do Nothing, you win by default. This works every night.
And also, shifting through the cameras speeds up the animatronics' movement, moving them one step forwards every camera shift
Every night is also entirely scripted, so theoratically you could speedrun the first TRTF game by mashing the cameras and surviving with the extremely precise mask usage.
Edit: by "doing nothing" I mean not opening the cameras, at all.
“Love you too, Phone Guy.” *Hangs up.*
That killed me. 😂😂😂
He’s my favorite character, no one can separate us apart ;)
@insomniacloserxo well your gonna love Dayshift's purple guy 💜
@@ilikedank-memesFr tho, I love him
There's times where I kinda wished the old TRTF fan-games actually did well, and especially TRTF5.
As someone who's been heavily involved with following everything for TRTF, I nowadays feel extremely distant these days from this series due to how very blind and defensive I used to be about Tyler and how overall messy and questionable the series was, without realizing how bad his controversies were. But TRTF5 in particular has always had something special in my eyes. I always liked the designs of the torture animatronics, the environmental design of the building and it's rooms, and the use of old music that you'd hear from Fallout 4. There's times where I do wish that the 5th entry wasn't cancelled, and I remember even Scott Cawthon commented on one of the trailers expressing how cool it looked to him, but sadly you can't see it anymore due to the video being deleted. Imagine if this fan-game would gotten into the Fazbear Fanverse Initiative if Tyler and the series wasn't so deep rooted in controversies and he had it more thought out and handled better. I do hope that Tyler can have the ability to redeem himself for the future, especially since he's much older now, but my God do I look back now with more bad memories than good, especially since back then I was friends with some pretty toxic people at the time.
It’s also important to note that tyler was really young during the beginning but now could potentially make something great with the series if he tried. Hopefully the new, The Road That Falls game is something that isn’t canceled so we can see what he is currently capable of. Only time will tell though
@@insomniacloserxo Yeah exactly, with him being much more older now, I can't help but feel curious, and I'm hoping to see if he's majorly improved since then, both in the story-telling/game management sense, but also improved on himself mentally too, because I know how much he's struggled a lot with that in the past. I like to believe there's always a chance to become a better person if someone at least tries slowly but surely. So with that said, I do hope The Road That Falls will be good when it comes out.
The Return to Freddy's caught my interest years ago due to its 5th entry being a free roam from ground up. I was really interested in a FNAF fan game that would be a free roam instead of being locked in a place (I mean free roam created in the FNAF engine, not any of the free roam games made on Unreal, etc) and also Torture animatronics and this whole industrial complex or whatever it was.. it had a huge atmosphere and potential.. such a shame it got cancelled when the series was finally becoming more original and unique..
The "Novel" rivals the official books in terms of having obscure and outlandish concepts *cough* in the flesh *cough* Fazgoo *cough*
Fun Fact: while the movement in FNAF 3 Fan made and the first TRTF game is scripted it turns out the animatronics only move when if you switch between different cams so you can legit beat the entire game without even opening up the cams
The one takeaway I have from TRTF nowadays is that Vigo is brilliant. He's a waste of imagination that nobody likes and I love him.
I don't agree that he is "waste of imagination", like.....C'MON, his design is maybe one of the most "creative" & suignificant designs I have ever saw in a FNaF fan-games history. Like....how often you see a FNaF-style animatronic which is NOT a humanoid/anthropomorphic, & looks like an ACTUAL robotic animal?
all my feelings changed when you mentioned he was 15 and younger when these games were being made.
he was an actual kid. a little kid making his own video game, even something as rough as the first one...?
straight on the fridge. right on the top. should he steal? nope. but its on the fridge anyway.
Saying he ''didn't put any work into his games'' when he was 3D modelling, animating and making entire ass video games as a CHILD is completely false. a kid actually completing a project is so rare - and he improved FAST!!! like how frequently were these games coming out? Months?? multiple games within the same school year, even when he has having problems like his girlfriend breaking up with him. Wow.
I don't expect a 14/15 yr old to have the introspection and self critique needed to improve quickly, and yet he DID. Amazing.
What'd you mean making entire ass video games? He copied mechanics from other people. He copied character designs and jumpscare animations from other people. He copied enviroments from other people. He was as close as you could get to straight up copying entire games without actually doing it, almost all of it without giving the deserved credit.
@@bigchungus6827And on top of that he was just a massive douche, which shouldn’t be excused at all.
37:03 i always assumed the reason there would be soap there was green guy was using the soap to clean the blood off the floor from where he killed the kid on the wall, basically cover his tracks. doesnt make as much sense saying it out loud when you consider the kid's body is just hanging from the wall plain for anyone to see, but thats literally the only reason i can think of why there'd be soap there.
Really nice video!
Regarding reptile animatronics in the fangame side of things, there was this one series titled "Fazbear's Return" and in the 2nd game there's an alligator and a dragon called Joe and Vasco respectively.
There's definitely an older example somewhere out there but that's one of the few I could remember.
Btw, the versions of The Return To Freddy's 5 that I saw steals sound effects and some of the soundtrack from Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs, one of my favorite horror games of all time. The opening of the oldest version even plagiarizes the opening of the game just with some of the sound effects switched around and the pitch lowered.
You know, one of the sound effects from Amnesia was used within that series. It depicts a little child screaming and crying frantically. I always wondered where it came from and what the sound effect is called. I've asked a few fans of Trtf, but they have zero clue about it. But, I'll keep looking for it. The sound plays during a minigame from the collection of minigames associated with Trtf 5's story and for one of the endings where BFP hangs himself (pretty fucked up, to be honest).
The reason why I want to have this sound effect is that I thought about making my own Fnaf fan game series if I get into contact with people who're modelers, coders, and overall fans of Fnaf.
@@vincerizzo1401it's likely a stock sound
@@captainszasz5836 A stock sound? And how is that a stock sound to be exact?
The Return to Freddy's always felt like it was AI Generated, an I love that feeling :)
Honestly it was a breathtaking scene when Gron slipped on a bar of soap and said "HELP ME VINCENT IM GRONNNIN" as he fell into the golden lockjaw suit.
This game looked gorgeous, and the demos were cool, but it was way too ambitious and scattershot. I’m intrigued to see how Ahlstrom’s Kriya Studios stuff turns out.
ok but let's not pretend super cancer isn't at least CLOSE to remnant being introduced in the games
Dude it's actually a sickness the real remnant is the radsla that Alison drink
Man I remember streaming me playing this series to my friends on discord and half of that time was just us laughing about how ugly and dumb everything looks, oh and laughing about "super cancer" being a real thing in their universe
Fun fact: the animatronic in the thumbnail is named lockjaw. He's a springlock animatronic from trtf 3.
Thank you for letting me know
@@insomniacloserxo oh, if ya want a great fan game to review... Might I recommend a cult classic? Specifically... Sinister Turmoil?
@@gamedestroyer112 never heard of it what’s it about ?
I know that. He's also an insert of the creator as well, which is pretty bad especially when it comes to self-insert standards.
@@vincerizzo1401 and what if that person self inserts in the opposite way? Hmmm? What if he shows what he's like? What if he made it as the epitome of how others see him? Then would it be bad?
I didn't noticed that obsession with government in the lore, I wonder where it came from, was it just lack of ideas, or was it simply because they watched huge amount of movies where plot involved government?
Anyway what i liked about the original THRTF 4 was atmosphere, sound design and lock jaws design because it seems like the character's design was inspired by Freddy Kruger.
yaknow, after a lot of what I have seen through the years, it's nice to just see a genuine attempt at a fangame series and to not have be tainted by anything other than lack of quality.
I enjoy seeing these TRTF videos, I was a fan back in the day but my God, was it such a mess lol, however I still hold a special place in my heart for this series after so long.
You can definitely tell these were made by a kid. And that's not a bad thing. Almost every child has amazing stories to tell, but has no idea how to tell them. They can put the plots out but not know how to properly flesh them out. It's very normal. But the plagiarism and the fact that this is FNAF definitely got him excessive hate. He was a weird kid, we all were
I really love the music choice you used for this video! Another banger as usual.
Thank you! I really appreciate that :)
After seeing so many videos on this and playing the games myself, beautiful is not a word I would personally use to describe this series lol
I remember spending one night a few years ago just reading tons of stuff on the TRTF wiki and feeling like every page opened up at least two new questions and gave zero answers. I had known it was bad but I had no idea of the true horrors until that night... and I didn't even know about the super cancer until now.
This was a fun video, even if it was long. I had to laugh when you couldn't read "Poniator" or "Bio Ninja Games" but hey, this series was melting your brain, a few mistakes here and there are understandable! Also I imagine BFP is a mix of BFB and P'oniator but I'm sure others have said that already.
The worst thing about this series to me......... is that the creator shares my name and is less than a year younger than me. I feel like he's my cursed clone.
fun fact about the 8-bit music track in one of the TRTF remastered teaser games: it is a royalty free song and the stuff the woman is saying is literally “audio jungle”
I just thought that was funny
for being cringe as a teenager, you have to at least respect that Tyler at least isn't a horrible person. he just did cringy things when he was a teenager, and let's be honest we all were
I love how it says "November 25nd" at 43:55
The redemption of this fangame is just the redemption of the batman from ben afleck
Never even seen this channel before, but I think Imma have to stick around.
Hoping to see you again :)
36:36 It isn't the fact that Gron slips on soap that angers me. It isn't the fact Gron somehow perfectly manages to get the entire suit on. IT'S THAT GRON FALLS IN, FACING THE SUIT, AND WHEN HE GETS SPRINGLOCKED, HE'S FACING BFP
"I MADE ANIMATRONICS LEGAL, SONIC!!"
"NO, SHADOW, THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'LL BE DOING - LOCKJAW WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE!"
43:24
_D e a t h_ Bed, that song makes me cry... It's just so sad... But that's definitely _"Out of bed"_
44:52
_"Why hello there, Old Sport, tis I, the elusive Aubergine man, like what you see?"_
1:03:58
The up in quality is sooooo Impressive,
Started as: The return to Freddy's: Which was Cringy and had a badly told Story... And badly detailed... But now
The road that falls: With a very well detailed Trailer and well designed Animatronics, I'm honestly Impressed with how far Tyler has come !!
Just hearing you talking about that "novel" gave me a mild headache literally. I can't imagine what you go through so here's a sub
Wow, I was iffy on whether on not this was a quality series or not. But Tyler's novel sent it crashing faster then a meteorite.
I guess this fangame was one of, alongside Treasure Island and Wario's (etc), to kickstart the era of FNAF fangames. While clearly bad in most aspects, TRTF was undoubtedly that one classic bootleg which served to help the FNAF fanbase develop to release future projects such as Fanverse.
Small Fun Fact: Apparently the very, very first FNAF fangame to be ever released was a game called Five Nights at Chuck E Cheese on Roblox, having released exactly 2 months after the first FNAF released.
I've seen a lot of fangames being pointed as the first one... Treasure Island Demo, Five Nights at McDonald's and that strange Doom build or something, but I've never heard about that Roblox map
@@jajaleco When an indie game tends to get really popular, like Lethal Company and Poppy Playtime, Roblox is usually the first to come with fanmade games that are actually just copies so that Roblox devs can grab a quick buck lol
the way you summarized everything in this video is great!, the impeccable editing and the script are great too
I feel like this is the best video that has covered the Return to Freddy's series on UA-cam if I'm being honest.
Time to go down the rabbit hole again.
Haha
I remembwr The Return to Freddy's way back then, i remember seeing spanish youtubers from the time playing it and being so incredibly hyped about it, "stolen assets meshed together" fbaf fangames eere an entire genre of their own
I hate and love that the torture suits have the fuled by blood thing that the robots in ultrakill have
I still remember a youtube comment from Tyler where someone was giving criticism and Tyler's response was something narcissistic like:
"you can't decide what I should do, I am a grown up and I can make my own decisions".
Maybe it wasn't even Tyler but some other controversial fnaf fangame dev
I think the inclusion of Emil macko as a character was meant to be a homage or shout out rather than an insult. The creator was a kid at the time, and I don’t think they understood that taking other people’s stuff for a free fan game was wrong
@@chazzywaz oh lol
I really do appreciate that you kept things mostly positive and just the unintentionally funny bits of these games speak for themselves. (And not saying cringe every other sentence throughout the video)
That music from the 5th game's 8-bit mini game was a small clip from don't go to bed (coffee for your head). I recognized it almost immediately because I've listened to the song recently.
The best thing about this video is Insomniac pronoucing "Bio Ninja games" as "bion ja games".
Jokes aside, great video man, found you randomly on my youtube page and i will definitely going follow your work!☺
Was pulling my hair out hearing him say that over and over
The Road That Falls isn't actually a FNaF Fangame, its a original game that Tyler is publishing under Kriya Studios AKA his officially licensed company.
Wait i'm stumped, is Tyler still a game developer through this day now that he's older?
I thought he left the internet
I've always wondered why "Kitty Fazcat" said that she never wanted to talk about her fnaf era before, know I can understand not being reminded of that whole mess. xD
"The purple guy dancing to pay the bills with henry in the crowd looking disappointed by his partner"
FUNNIEST CRAP IVE HEARD ALL DAY THANK YOU
Idc if it's weird gron slipping on soap is peak comedy
If the games were made to have comedy it actually would’ve been funny but he tried to make everything too serious ;-;
@@insomniacloserxo true but in night 6 in 5am you see golden lock jaw and when I saw him jump scare me at first I just jumped so bfp made trtf 4 was scary and funny also good job on your video man
@@insomniacloserxotbf, you COULD look at everything in these games as a comedy
That teaser trailer at the very end actually looks really good. The lighting’s cool, the wires and the masks are sick. It looks promising!
Love the undertale ost with you explaining the fan-game in detail, very nice 🫡
I find it funny that one single character cause an entire breakup.
43:19 "Purchase your track" could be from a sound buying site, seems like Tyler didn't buy it, as I've heard it some tracks (mainly rain sounds) as well
Reading the excerpts of that horrific excuse of a novel genuinely took all the energy out of me.
I wrote more coherant stuff than he did when i was 13 writing my first strory fur fox ache.
Though i must say, i do consider writing to be my profession, and i suppose due to the experience such profession yields, reading that makes me wonder... " what the fok are you on about?" Innit.
Can mildly confirm that the models look like something from the early stages if a FnaF roblox RP game called TTRP before they improved the character creator and the models in general
I love the fact that it’s cannon to the actual gameplay and story that Foxy managed to break the doors.
52:56 As someone who reads wattpad fanfics whenever I need to cringe out of my body: they're still better than whatever the hell this is.
I 've recently watched a video on this same topic from @minaxa, and I believe you handled your covering of this franchise much better. Nice job mate!
Especially when you realize that minaxa legit ignored every single bit of drama with the creator in his one night at flumptys video, but proceeded to slam a child into the ground.
Was... Was the strip club thing based on that weird ass theory for Sister Location? There was this person who theorized Sister Location was going to be an adult establishment,I think Scott himself stepped in very damn confused on WHAT about his game history gave the idea he would do that
The person who made that theory was none other than Kane Carter
29:15 William is just like "Huh, thank god that wasn't me."
TBF, all these games really do give an impression of a really ambitious and dedicated kid who really wants to become popular as an indie developer, like Scott. And not in a mean way. Knowing he started his series when he wasn't even 16 & looking at his current progress in game/model creation, he really does impress. But, counting the novel/plot he wrote, his multiple cancelled projects & counselling stuff, I hope he's doing okay right now. I'd imagine having not that small attention surrounding you (which is probably somewhat negative/toxic too) would fuck you up a little, especially at a young age as well
28:06 I think you mean, Frederal Law.
I'll see myself out.
"While he was designing fangames of his favourite series, you probably were playing Roblox when you were 15"
Nope, I was just as much of a cringelord as him when it comes to creative work. lol
Haha what were you making?
@@insomniacloserxo I tried to come up with a fan game called Calamity of Control, but I’m not a game dev, so I left it as a thing of the past
The animatronic strip club was literally a Day Shift at Freddy’s gag.
But your version of William Afton being the stripper is even funnier! I mean how else was he supposed to pay for a giant underground Murder anamatronic storage facility?
The animatronic you’re looking for is Happy Frog (and yes she’s an amphibian, not a reptile)
Seeing like multiple videos going through this series and seeing the vast amount of opinions
ngl that phone guy voice is actually good and reminds me of steven(phone guy/boss of you) from dsaf
0:12 that was a nice detail
havent watched the video yet but im so happy more people are discovering one of my favorite internet rabbitholes
Hope you enjoyed it :)
XO talking about the videogame series with the "super cancer" plotline? Let's go!
The book reads more like a manuscript. Like the plot was laid out but not explicitly written
Every time I see TRTF, I always get reminded of Tyler's cursed novel about it with Super Cancer.
I like your voice. I'd listen to you talk, and even read the trtf's books multiple times a day. Crazy
it's bio-ninja-games, ur pronunciations were so funny😭😭😭
This is my first time hearing about these fan games and developer. But I would not be surprised if he considered himself a “struggling artist” 😂
I just get that vibe from him lol
17:26 And this is one of the reasons I love when Quentin Tarantino shows up in one of his own movies, cause he has enough self-awareness to not do this, and just ends up dying horrifically.
Even if The Return to Freddy's series is a complete trainwreck...I can't help but like it. The original TRTF series itself is so tacky and ridiculous in a way that I can't bring myself to hate. The remakes of these games (especially TRTF: Winter Wonderland) are actually really good!
Forgot to mention is that when I was a youngling, I'd watch videos about TRTF all the time
Despite that fact what tyler did was horrible at least it’s what he did was not bad then what blackouts did………………plus the return to freddy is a mess.but it’s we’ll be always our special mass………
The person we assumed purple guy was was phone guy himself. That's why he picks up the phone. He's recording.
ngl, the cutscenes at 43:32 - 44:17 are actually really cool and i would love a good fan game with this (flawed yet still fairly interesting) concept
The amount of "character breaks" i saw in this video is more than the breaks in all of the sr pelo videos
If you think the fnaf lore is currently bad show them this to say *how bad it could’ve been*