MAXIMIZE Side Imaging Performance: Angle Your Transducer Down!

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  • Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
  • After noticing a remarkable improvement in image quality by adjusting the angle of my transducer, I conducted a comprehensive test to explore whether leveling the transducer truly delivers the best side imaging results. Surprisingly, my findings revealed that contrary to popular belief, leveling the transducer isn't necessarily the key to optimal performance. In this video, I present compelling evidence showcasing why angling your transducer downward at approximately 10 degrees can significantly enhance image clarity. This adjustment not only minimizes interference from the lower unit but also reduces surface water turbulence. Additionally, I employ a simulation to visually demonstrate how an angled transducer yields superior shadow definition and enhanced detail. Don't miss out on this game-changing insight into optimizing your transducer setup for unparalleled imaging results!
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  • @HeeyManFishing
    @HeeyManFishing Місяць тому +5

    Thanks for all the time invested into this. I got my trans level with how the boat sits in the water. From the coin level. Works good for mine.

  • @JohnEastonFishTecCharts
    @JohnEastonFishTecCharts 2 місяці тому +4

    First of all, your 3D graphics to explain your point is brilliant, well done. Transducer Angle to Transom (TAT) is something I am very aware of on my USV's, in fact, the entire design of my USV (AIMy) was based around TAT. While the coin concept worked for many that had just horrible TATs, I agree, it is not a solution for everyone as "slightly down" is certainly the ticket. A very quick and easy 'on the water' test is to idle over some fish on a wide cone angle such as 83kHz for Lowrance/Simrad users to check your arches. If the arch is slightly longer on the left then it is 100% in my opinion as it is slightly down. A perfectly equal arch I would give 80% and a longer right side arch ... 0%, get the boat out of the water now and fix it!

    • @FishOclock89
      @FishOclock89  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment. I agree that transducer angle to transom is imporant. Crazy that garmin doesn’t have any of this info in the installation manual.

  • @1957cajun
    @1957cajun 2 місяці тому +6

    You did a great job here! This is exactly the conclusion I came to simply using trial and error. I tried the coin leveling thing and the result for me was terrible.

    • @FishOclock89
      @FishOclock89  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the comment. Yes it seems garmin units require a lot of trial and error to get a perfect image.

    • @jakdaripper2
      @jakdaripper2 Місяць тому

      Same here with my Humminbird 15" Gen3 MEGA. I coin level it and found the fish/structure returns and shadows underwhelming so I pointed the transducer down like you, and found an overall much improved image.

  • @jeffthrush8840
    @jeffthrush8840 6 днів тому

    I adjusted my transducer until my fish arches appeared level on my graph's display. I also mounted my transducer as far away from the boat center line as possible which reduces ping blockage from the motor. My transducer is pointing at an angle of 3 degress higher at the back of the transducer than the front. My side imaging works great both to the right and left.
    If you install your transsucer where any part of it extends below the hull bottom you are only asking for trouble. Transducers can be damaged if they strike floating objects in the water at faster speeds. Not worth the risks to me.

  • @roberthalstead4772
    @roberthalstead4772 2 місяці тому +3

    Not sure on this yet . I set mine up and tilted the back of the transducer up quite a bit to compensate for the motor. I had an image on side view and traditional that would rival any advertisement or high end install. Without really knowing much about the unit and limited time I had to do the rest from my garage. After dropping the transducer slightly but then adjusting to the coin leveling on the water method. The transducer angle came down from the back tipped up to closer looking level. My screens have not looked as clear to date and I am still tweaking .

    • @FishOclock89
      @FishOclock89  2 місяці тому

      Yeah in my experience transducer installation is not a "one size fits all". I think the most important thing is to install the transducer away from turbulence and the side of the outboard. In a perfect world, a slight down angle will give you better images but I know every situation is different.

  • @billyray8904
    @billyray8904 Місяць тому +1

    don't care if your right or who the hell is right on transducer angles but damn good job on the simulator. thumbs up just for that alone.

  • @garyblackson8659
    @garyblackson8659 2 місяці тому +2

    Any ideas why my side imaging stopped showing the dark area down the miidle that should be the depth of the water I'm in. Meaning my whole screen, no matter what depth of water I'm in looks like it would if you were like in a foot of water. This just started happening.

    • @christophergreene7027
      @christophergreene7027 2 місяці тому +5

      If it's a Humminbird finder, check to see if you're in "contour mode", which removes the water column and just shows the bottom without the dark area (water column)

  • @sprinter144
    @sprinter144 2 місяці тому +3

    What was the angle of your transducer in the before test? Was it 10 degrees? It looks further down than that.

    • @FishOclock89
      @FishOclock89  2 місяці тому

      It was a bit more than that. I ended up putting it lower to compensate for the affect of the lower unit.

    • @ronknight779
      @ronknight779 5 днів тому

      What instrument do you use to first determine that your transducer is level (to what) and how and with what do you use to measure the ten degrees down? Picture would help this visual learner. Well done

  • @Zilla4835
    @Zilla4835 2 місяці тому +1

    How does a slight down angle affect clear vue and standard down imaging?

    • @FishOclock89
      @FishOclock89  2 місяці тому

      That’s a good question. I don’t think it impacts it too much. I think on 2d sonar it makes the arches a bit shorter and no effect on clearvu.

  • @dustinwright4601
    @dustinwright4601 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video

    • @FishOclock89
      @FishOclock89  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for watching and for the comment!

  • @brettu45
    @brettu45 22 дні тому

    Yeah. But what about getting readings while at speed on plane?

  • @azzman1100
    @azzman1100 2 місяці тому +1

    I've always have my transducer about 5mm to 10mm down I've never have my transducer level when planning you get the signal almost in center of boat and when just fishing drifting the fish and lumps or objects are almost in center of under the boat I've tested in shallow water were it picks up its pretty much spot on when angled down my pop back in the early nineties told me this always have slight tilt down not level and since this I've always have good luck

    • @FishOclock89
      @FishOclock89  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching and for the comment. I have observed the same !

  • @sonar5676
    @sonar5676 9 годин тому

    Coin leveling has always been inaccurate. All installations are impacted by weight and balance of the boat. Full fuel or 1/4 tank? One occupant or two? Loaded with the same waight in the same locations each time? We shoot for the best "average'. A slight down angle on the rear of the transducer provides a smoother water flow over the face of the transducer's sonar windows. Great graphics..

  • @titansfan2104
    @titansfan2104 2 місяці тому

    Those lines are more than likely from your di being on the same frequency as your si. Around the 2 min 30 sec.

    • @FishOclock89
      @FishOclock89  2 місяці тому

      That’s what I thought at first but the lines corresponded with the boat going up and down on the waves. I was running my clearvu on 810 kHz and my side imaging on 1120 so I don’t think it should interfere

  • @user-hh5dh1nz1r
    @user-hh5dh1nz1r 2 місяці тому

    Hummingbird recommend 5° down

    • @FishOclock89
      @FishOclock89  2 місяці тому

      I didn’t know this thanks for sharing! Makes sense. Garmin does not say anything in their installation instructions about angling it down.

  • @brianwolfe9294
    @brianwolfe9294 17 днів тому +1

    Coin trick worked on my boat// A comb forward doesnt help

    • @FishOclock89
      @FishOclock89  17 днів тому

      I always say “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it”. Also my simulation only shows that in perfect conditions without the effect of the wake or other sources of noise a slight forward tilt is optimal. For some people depending on the boat they have and the design of the hull and the wake a forward tilt may not work best.

  • @8452942815
    @8452942815 2 місяці тому +6

    Hair
    ????

  • @deuces2k
    @deuces2k Місяць тому

    Hmm I thought angling your transducer down thet much would result in some rooster tailing water??

    • @FishOclock89
      @FishOclock89  Місяць тому

      Depends on how you have the transducer installed. On my boat it didn’t cause this issue but on someone else’s boat it might.

  • @FranklinHicks-qs4gs
    @FranklinHicks-qs4gs 2 місяці тому +3

    How can you take a guy seriously that doesnt even own a comb

    • @TexasPapa13
      @TexasPapa13 Місяць тому +3

      He should just shave it

  • @15trucklt83
    @15trucklt83 2 місяці тому +2

    Yes. Ignore the manufacturers and don’t level your transducer for best performance. Haha.

    • @FishOclock89
      @FishOclock89  2 місяці тому +2

      Garmin installation manual does not say to level the transducer and neither do any of the other manufacturers. "the coin trick" was made up on UA-cam.

    • @islandershome7126
      @islandershome7126 2 місяці тому

      @@FishOclock89 static.garmin.com/pumac/Transom_Mount_Transducer_Install_EN-US.pdf

  • @gibby9209
    @gibby9209 2 місяці тому

    If you have it at an angle your depth reading will be off

    • @ChadMartinson-LaunchBlox
      @ChadMartinson-LaunchBlox 2 місяці тому +1

      Level on the trailer does not equal level on the water. Also, different speeds will cause your boat to ride at different angles.

    • @LeeRiverGuy
      @LeeRiverGuy 2 місяці тому

      Very interesting. I’ll be trying it.

  • @C_H_U_
    @C_H_U_ 2 місяці тому +7

    I disagree with this video and any transducer video talking about proper transducer placement. Optimal placement is going to be different for everyone unless you have the same boat to weight ratio and placement. You don’t take into account the weight of the boat - full tank of gas / three quarter / half, tackle, how many people on the boat, etc. This will affect the ducer placement regardless of any leveling to the ducer. Trimming also affects the angle of the ducer. Too high and your bow raises which will angle your ducer down…. Too low and you start to level the boat, but you may start to see interference w/ the lower unit which will DEFINITELY impact images…. There’s too many variables. In the end, you’re never going to have the ‘BEST’ angle anyway so there’s really no point to these videos lol.

  • @markgriffith1983
    @markgriffith1983 Місяць тому

    2d sonar sux just buy livescope

  • @Rico11b
    @Rico11b 2 місяці тому

    Oh I see the problem. You're using a Garmin unit. That's your problem. Switch to a Simrad, you'll be much happier.

    • @FishOclock89
      @FishOclock89  2 місяці тому

      I have heard good things but aren’t they really expensive?

    • @Rico11b
      @Rico11b 2 місяці тому

      @FishOclock89 Na, no different than the others. I had Garmin for testing, and then I returned it and switched to Simrad.