Me yesterday: "I would have no use for a stump grinder". Me today: "I need to buy a stump grinder". Great video guys. Love the collaboration as I watch you both! Thanks for putting this all together.
Tim these machines were designed from the ground up, built, tested, and are manufactured in Bismarck, North Dakota USA!!!!!!! In response to your question around 21:00
You two make a good reviewing team.Your professional experiences covers a huge range of equipment which makes your opinions valuable to the viewer..Appreciate the video..
I love that 3 point stump grinder it looks so handy I wonder how the bobcat would do pushing snow it looks like it would be handy in tight places and could stack snow high
they work awesome from my personal experience, they are heavy, i'm talking concrete slap cracking asphalt breaking and side walk sinking in fall spring thaw heavy. (1"+heavily ice caked bottom and top) did 3 passes on one side walk one winter 2018? mid february where the day before 2 feet of snow dropped and the next day it hit 85ºF. sunk a 3 foot wide concrete sidewalk 2" into the ground removing hard pack iced snowbanks from city plows street pushing T junctions across the road type snow piles. it only stopped at 2" because that was all the frost that had melted by noon WITH a 6 foot tall half melted refrozen time and again snow bank on it and that was with just the tool cat and bobtach snowblower....and it ate up that entire ice chunked football rock or bigger snow bank better than my JD445 on my drive way same snow storm. loads of power stalled out 3 times pushing it to find it's limits as this was the first time i had used a toolcat vs the loader. loader never stalled out even pushing 12' snowbanks of half fresh snow and half old snow. only problem i had was losing traction trying th move a mountain dead center in 1-3 pushes. divide and conquer was the answer 1/3 at a time and it handled it pushing the entire bank back about a good 10-12 feet from the curb making room for new snowfall of equal amounts just incase. extremely impressed just like the full size JD front end loaders, power left over, traction was the issue every time taking on mountains of hard tough snow and clearing from curb to drainage ponds 20-50 yards in uncut swamp grass to the edge of the cat tails. would put these up against catapillars of same size and not sure which would do a better job or win in a contest. trust me i've run both, plus case and fords
Hi Tim if nothing else you got a second opinion. That always helps. That's a neat little machine but not for your average homeowners. That's a professional machine to me and one thing that stands out to me is it looks top heavy especially if you were to pick up a heavy load and lift the back wheels up. Thanks for sharing have a blessed weekend
Hey Tim so glad to see you looking so well. Who is that rough neck dude lol, Mike is an awesome guy, he knows his stuff like good reasons for the stump grinder such as close to sidewalks and close to other trees! Mike really behaved himself for you there Tim, hes a wild one usually! He was quite impressed with the grinder and loader! AT 6:13 “exit stage quick as you like” Arron lol that’s the second time he got in the video. Awesome collaboration Tim and Mike, absolutely loved it thanks. UK Emma
I wish dealers would rent 3 point hitch equipment. In my area there are none. It's difficult to justify the cost to the average homeowner to use it twice a year. There is a local Bobcat dealer that rents skid steers with some available attachments but not 3 point hitch equipment for tractors.
Finally someone who knows.how to use the L28 to it's full potential ( no offense Tim) that is a full bucket! We demoed the L28 and was blown away, we have a fullsize 50" low pro bucket off of a t100 495 lbs empty with cutting edge, we had a full bucket of stone in it,...over 1600 lbs at full extension and wasnt tippy at all!
I have this exact Bobcat sg30 grinder, the original teeth are subpar a simple switch to a set of green teeth and then 250 lb Bobcat skid steer counterweights bolted to each side of the head made all the difference in the world it became a much more productive grinder without the bouncing.
i enjoyed watching Mike put the bobcat thru a quick test cycle in the mulch pile ...very clear he had a lot of experience with larger machines and knew how to test limits quickly (excellent)
ha! ole dirt perfect made the trip for another roller for his fleet(i'm assuming that as his wife left the cat out of the bag on her channel-lol) but i think too he's glad he brought his tractor along to show it to everyone, and to compare it. i seen Man Behind the Scenes was there too. great video-TTWT.
glad to see another tractor guys point of view on all of this. some features of the older tractors i wish they had never removed such as the left and right braking and the single slide forward and reverse with neutral/stop lever. however i do much appreciate the foot forward and reverse levers as it frees up my hands for fine point critical control of attachments whereas my hands and arms had to be a blur of motion in prior years. a single pedal forward reverse rocker pedal would be much nicer, like the older deer back hoe tractors had for their throttle, but a neutral cross safety lock for the pedal would be required to prevent accidental run aways, it would just be nice not to have to apply force while under travel the entire time as i have to do it for multiple hours at a time. really hate all the safety switches that were implemented under that '96 congressional law. can't run a snow blower or tiller with out that reverse safety killing pto power. i have found ways around the worst offenders, but the forward reverse one is something i am still trying to figure out. tried it the way i did the others and for some reason (i believe reverse detection in another sensor some where changes polarity?) it won't work so i have lived with that nightmare since, plus position of that sensor is MM critical.
Well Tim I have not seen dirt perfect! I now will have to check this out! Great review it was very nice to see the stump grinder on a different tractor!! Great stuff!!!! Thank you
I know I'm late on this one, a year late. But the best attachment for this, or the one I think you'd love the most...an auger or earth drill. What did you hate about in on your compact tractor?...can't apply down pressure in hard ground. Shaft drive, not hydraulic, so very hard on the gears when you hit rocks. Speaking of rocks, can't reverse it when it gets stuck. Not enough lift capacity to pick it out the ground when it's tough going. All solved with a hydraulic auger on this machine.
Two speed transmission for sure. I’m super interested in that bobcat for round bale moving without causing more mud. I also think it would be good at post holes and stall cleaning. I suspect it is out of my price range though. How well do you think it will handle moving around in soupy mud? Do you think it could get 4x5 bale 3 high? Around 800to1300lbs. I like to stack mine flat side down. Hard to get perspective on the video sometimes. Is there room inside the cab for a camera view screen? How are the hydraulics for it? Is there enough flow to power a bush hog or automated wood splitter? There’s no Bobcat dealer near me for me to see in person. Thanks for the video.
I don't think I've seen DP as diplomatic about equipment reviews as he has been in these 2 videos. I like this side of him; he was candid and articulate but still himself.
Hey Tim, Cool video. That looks like a high capacity light materials bucket on the bobcat. Have you tried a smaller universal or dirt bucket with that loader? I think you would have better results in the digging, lifting, and breakout departments. I would use the bigger bucket for mulch, snow, and the like.
This was another great video. The 855 shined again. I have a little loader like that but mine is a Kubota R420 with a backhoe. They have their place but there isn’t a machine that does everything the best.
Wondering if you know if bobcat makes these small loaders and attachments in North Dakota? I have used the larger same style (sg60) bobcat stump grinder on a track loader t750 and it worked great. Visibility was top notch and plenty of power for larger 36in ash stumps.
A couple of questions as well as a comment. On the bobcat, can you get it with the new r14 tires or the r4 tires? Maybe that would be a good compromise between getting into a pile of material effectively and still be gentle on the ground. Also, on the bobcat with the stump grinder, I was wondering if you could get a similar setup to what Ventrac has with their stump grinder as they have a mirror on top so you can see where you are grinding.
Great episode to span almost 40 years of equipment innovation. Seeing Dirt Perfect's 1986 Deere working gives me hope especially... As I'm hauling a neighbors old 1983 Ford/Shibaura tractor to the New Holland dealer tomorrow to see if she lives or becomes a parts machine. :-(
10:00 it's not a mismatch, it's the fact every one has run the big 3' vermeer grinders and that is how they have become accustomed to viewing. this one is small and that's what's throwing you off. you have to treat it like a weed whip where you can't actually see to well what you are cutting as it's going into the head and your feed back is the result of what's coming out instead. the other major difference is with the larger grinders you can take 3-4" off at a time so results are easier to see as well and because it's able to take on so much more you don't have anything to finesse you can just bull thru dirt to dirt.
The bobcat strikes me as a great for a property maintenance company who needs snow removal equipment or for moving mulch and lighter yard work or construction sites. Heavy excavation not so much, but moving hay bales or animal feed around a farm seems like a great place for it.
Tim and dirt perfect a little advice on their stump cutter side you keep your teeth in the dirt longer you will dull them if you keep them in the wood you'll keep them sharper that's my experience
Tim - The stump grinder is listed for tractors equipped with hydrostatic drive. I assume that’s because it can be driven very slow as necessary to grind the stump. But I was wondering your thoughts on using this with manual transmissions. I have a JD 850 yamnar diesel that moves very slow in 1st low and wondering if this stump grinder would work-your thoughts? I’ve got several stumps to grind out here in Eastern WA state. Thanks for your channel and advice.
You'll have to ride the clutch pretty hard to make it work. It really does need the hydro transmission. Do you have rear hydraulics on your 850? I'm guessing no. If you DO have rear hydraulics (2 SCV's....4 ports), then you might be able to run the 3P24 swing type work for you. The only risk would be if the 850's 3 point could lift it. ..but I suspect it could.
@@TractorTimewithTim Yes; I have rear hydraulics (4 port w/ 2 SCVs) but the 3P24 swing is about twice the cost. I really appreciate your response, confirming what I sort of knew. My 850 has less than 1400 hrs on it and not much rust/well cared for but don't want to wreck the current clutch so I will NOT be stump grinding with it. Much appreciate your channel and response. Rewards for your faithfulness to Him. Thanks again. Craig
What kind of wood? The big tree in the beginning looked like a Locust, as did the smaller stumps. What kind of tree was the large stump done with the Bobcat? It would have been interesting to see the first stump grinder finish the large stump for comparison. Have you ever reviewed the Bobcat "ToolCat" or ToyCat.?
I this one sold, or just going back to the dealer's inventory? You haven't done too much damage to it (lol) and It's got what I want on it, except for the rear weights.
I was skeptical about the mini bobcat loader, but I think the way it doesn't tear up the ground when driving is a major plus. Also, the two range transmission will make it a workhorse.
I bought a Baumalight P 24 and used it on my 2006 BX24D. It worked great but after about 10 small stumps ground I tore a gear out of the PTO drive. The cost to repair the tractor was more than the P24. My Kubota dealer said that my tractor might be a bit too light for the stump grinder. I think both the P24 and my Kubota tractor are great products. I sold the Stump grinder. The Kubota dealer also sold me the Baumalight P24.
Ugh. Not so good. I guess we need to make sure the slip clutch is adjusted properly so that it will slip. This is the first I've heard of this problem.
@@TractorTimewithTim I bought the grinder in May of 2020 and the PTO shaft that came with the stump grinder had shear bolts instead of the PTO with a slip clutch. I had to actually order new shear bolts because the hardest bolts I could find were only an 8 hardness. The shear bolts were a 10.9 hardness and came from Baumalight in Canada. I think the PTO with the slip clutch may have prevented me losing the teeth in my PTO gearbox.
The shear bolts from Baumalight were the recommended hardness that was stated in my manual. I ordered new shear bolts from the Kubota dealership where I bought the P24. Those 10.9 shear bolts came from Baumalight. I’m not sure what the specs were but I had never seen bolts rated at that hardness. I do like watching your videos. I did trade my BX24D for a new BX23S. I used your video channel to help make my decision. I’ve owned three GR models for mowing grass and now I’m on my second BX tractor. Thanks.
I have some experience with a 750 and 770. Rock solid machines! I’m just not a fan of gear drive on these little machines. They get used for a lot of loader work, mowing, and other PTO work. These tasks much more easily performed with a hydro transmission.
I like your tube videos. I haven't watched for a very long time but the information you share is helpful. I do have a question for Tim. I am not sure you know about the fuel injected stihl ms500i chainsaw but would like to watch a you tube and the info you share with your wstchers. The stihl chainsaw is the world's first fuel injected chainsaw. I have watched some you tube about them but wanted to know your thoughts and info about them
New subscriber. Mark. Greetings. I have a question for you. I do grading, clearing, pads for garages or houses. Footers, catch basins, 6" pipe for drainage. I bought a new JD 5045e. It has 80 hours on it. The loader will lift 3,600 #'s. This Tractor is a brute beast. At first I was so happy with this Tractor. Matter of fact I said Thanks to God many, many times while sitting on that Tractor. I bought this Tractor because I had an LS 33 hp and didn't think it was strong enough for small stumps and bushes. But with 300 hours on the LS I will honestly say I had not one glitch or hiccup with that Tractor. So back to the 5045e when filling the bucket with gravel or dirt, it will pick it up, then going in to reverse the Tractor will wobble teeter totter then lean to the right and start to turn over. That's with water and antifreeze in the back tires and a 7' boxblade on the back. I can't tell you how many times I almost turned over. The saving grace is drop the bucket immediately. It will stable back up. I was taking off load after load of dirt to spread through the woods and a small bump or unlevel ground and it want's to turn over. I put $15,000 down on that Tractor. My 2 questions are did I buy the wrong Tractor and if I did what Tractor should I buy? The 3039 R With Backhoe? 2038 w Backhoe? The other problem with the 5045 is I had 45 yards of dirt delivered to my house. I spread some of it then it rained and it's been 5 months and I can't drive the Tractor in my yard. I sink down over a foot deep. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Mark.
Yes, you need more rear ballast. Probably 2000+ lbs on the 3 point hitch. Based on your stated needs, I think you need a smaller tractor.. likely a 3039r.
I had a few small stumps on my front hillside that I cleaned off. House was built in 45 and I'm the first one that didn't like looking at the brush right in front of the house. Anyway, there were a couple of stumps that if I didn't watch would catch my mower deck and that was a pain. The only way off was to back up and there was too much of a hill and I couldn't back up. I got one of the wood grinder heads for my 4" grinder, hooked it up to my 1K Honda suitcase generator and got down there on my knees and ground them off. Took quite a bit longer but then again the tractor would not have been able to back up the hill either. It would have been drive down grind, drive around to get back up on top of the hill and then drive down to take another swipe.
I have a small 3208 John Deere compact tractor hydrostat and I love it something in my my wife can drive and operate I love it I bought it back in '04 and I think it's got 600 hours on it it's always been garage keep or always been in the barn still like new also it's got a loader on it very handy
Gotta show the 855 on a legitimate size stump... or is that a part I missed? Maybe it only goes up to 6-8" because of how the PTO shakes the rear of the tractor.
Sorry to tell you my ASV would come through that muddy area carrying its full capacity all day with no damage ,I have a bobcat tool cat that’s get stuck soon as you leave the pavement
I think the perfect application for that wheel loader would be a school district or college. You could clear snow off the wide sidewalks, you could do mulch and landscaping, I imagine you could even mow assuming they have some sort of mower for it. Be great for loading salt into the spreaders in the bed of pickup trucks. Could a tractor do all this? Yes of course, but the articulation is what makes this the winner. Get into tighter spots without tearing up the grass or leaving the black marks on the concrete from tires sliding. I think that would be the application where it would really shine.
I’ve seen a couple similar machines that have a self powered snow blower. They clear the sidewalks like a dream. And leave no marks or damage in their wake. Considering they look like they’re from the late 60s, I think think the concept is sound.
@@TractorTimewithTim new or used? I bought mine used for $11k which is cheap most on the market because they are DEF go for $20k-$25k and the new gas RG55 is in the $55k range. Which you can buy a used 100hp model for less.
Thanks, that is my point. Adding a $2500 tractor grinder might be a good way to add grinding service to a beginning business. Once established, and you have saved a few $$, step up to a larger solution.
@@TractorTimewithTim that is true. But I know a guy in my area that uses one and he lost a tree guy to myself because he would tear up a yard going back and forth. Atleast that was the complaint that the tree guy had about him. Plenty of used smaller grinders out there that are dedicated units for cheap. I almost had a 25hp unit that I was gonna fix up for $1,000.
DP and TTWT, together in the same video. Without the hopping and jumping of the stump shredder, the tractors had the Hydrostatic pump to take care of the task at hand. Capt Kleeman has a JD 855 too, right?
Hey! Just picked up a 1300 hour, like new 855 4WD. Got a 513, 5' rotary bush hog, looking at a rototiller. How many inches wide do you find runs well behind the 855?
@@photocontrol I've now heard the 5' is no problem on a 24 HP machine. I did just get a 4' today though, so hopefully it's a wash far as overall area covered/time.
@@stephendixon4619 lol ok your closer and I don’t think you can grind a frozen stumps. I’m hoping I can get a set of hydraulic multiplers on before I can get tim up here so I maybe get him to bring the 3 point offset flail mower he used on his 2 series on my ditch in front of my house. Push mowing isn’t cutting it lol. Who wouldn’t wanna see 2 series vs 955 👍
You'll never be able to avoid all the dirt, but you absolutely want to keep it out of as much dirt as you can. Sharp teeth will chew through stumps in 1/3 the time as dull teeth, and nothing dulls a tooth like dirt and rock.
There's an interesting difference between US and Europe. You guys say: "it's a nice concept, definitely not as universal as a compact tractor." Here in Europe most people buy Avant and Multione loaders considering them way more universal than the compact tractors. If US sales are 95:5 in favor of the tractors, in Europe the ratio would be the other way around. Anyway, I'm just about ot buy something for my 6 acre property and really struggle to make a decision. The options are Kubota or John Deere on one side vs. Avant and Multione on the other side (Bobcat loader not included, as both Avant and Multione are Europen brands and are the better choice dealership/price/parts/maintenance/etc wise)
We don't have enough variety of these units to make them competitive. Dealerships are too few. Support isn't quite there yet. This particular Bobcat brand is not powerful enough. The Avants are too expensive, and not compatible enough with existing attachments. I can definitely see their versatility. I think they have a chance to take over the US market, but not until Deere or Agco gets involved.
@@TractorTimewithTim Yeah, I see. I guess your explanation also applies to Europe: Deere is very expensive here, dealerships are too few, basically nonexisting aftermarket, etc... It seems like in this particular field US and EU are two different worlds. :) I assume I will get the quotes from the dealers for all those brands I mentioned within a week or two. Let's see what one can get and for what price...
Thanks again for having me up really enjoyed my time with you guys!!! And awesome video as always 😁
Great video. I enjoy the collaborations.
He said the stump grinder stays but didn’t say the imatch had to stay....
If we used dirt perfect discount code they would charge us 5% more.. lol
Me yesterday: "I would have no use for a stump grinder".
Me today: "I need to buy a stump grinder".
Great video guys. Love the collaboration as I watch you both! Thanks for putting this all together.
Its so cool how my favorite UA-camrs comment on each other channels.
Tim these machines were designed from the ground up, built, tested, and are manufactured in Bismarck, North Dakota USA!!!!!!! In response to your question around 21:00
Always nice to have 2 knowledgeable men talking tractors have a great day love from TEXAS
You two make a good reviewing team.Your professional experiences covers a huge range of equipment which makes your opinions valuable to the viewer..Appreciate the video..
I love that 3 point stump grinder it looks so handy I wonder how the bobcat would do pushing snow it looks like it would be handy in tight places and could stack snow high
It’s great for clearing tight walkways with a sweeper attachment!
they work awesome from my personal experience, they are heavy, i'm talking concrete slap cracking asphalt breaking and side walk sinking in fall spring thaw heavy. (1"+heavily ice caked bottom and top) did 3 passes on one side walk one winter 2018? mid february where the day before 2 feet of snow dropped and the next day it hit 85ºF. sunk a 3 foot wide concrete sidewalk 2" into the ground removing hard pack iced snowbanks from city plows street pushing T junctions across the road type snow piles. it only stopped at 2" because that was all the frost that had melted by noon WITH a 6 foot tall half melted refrozen time and again snow bank on it and that was with just the tool cat and bobtach snowblower....and it ate up that entire ice chunked football rock or bigger snow bank better than my JD445 on my drive way same snow storm. loads of power stalled out 3 times pushing it to find it's limits as this was the first time i had used a toolcat vs the loader. loader never stalled out even pushing 12' snowbanks of half fresh snow and half old snow. only problem i had was losing traction trying th move a mountain dead center in 1-3 pushes. divide and conquer was the answer 1/3 at a time and it handled it pushing the entire bank back about a good 10-12 feet from the curb making room for new snowfall of equal amounts just incase. extremely impressed just like the full size JD front end loaders, power left over, traction was the issue every time taking on mountains of hard tough snow and clearing from curb to drainage ponds 20-50 yards in uncut swamp grass to the edge of the cat tails. would put these up against catapillars of same size and not sure which would do a better job or win in a contest. trust me i've run both, plus case and fords
Always good to get different perspectives on equipment and uses, and Mike brings some different experience as well. Blessings!
Hi Tim if nothing else you got a second opinion. That always helps. That's a neat little machine but not for your average homeowners. That's a professional machine to me and one thing that stands out to me is it looks top heavy especially if you were to pick up a heavy load and lift the back wheels up. Thanks for sharing have a blessed weekend
Hey Tim so glad to see you looking so well. Who is that rough neck dude lol, Mike is an awesome guy, he knows his stuff like good reasons for the stump grinder such as close to sidewalks and close to other trees! Mike really behaved himself for you there Tim, hes a wild one usually! He was quite impressed with the grinder and loader! AT 6:13 “exit stage quick as you like” Arron lol that’s the second time he got in the video. Awesome collaboration Tim and Mike, absolutely loved it thanks. UK Emma
It’s awesome seeing dirt prefect and Tim together definitely my 2 favorites!
I wish dealers would rent 3 point hitch equipment. In my area there are none. It's difficult to justify the cost to the average homeowner to use it twice a year. There is a local Bobcat dealer that rents skid steers with some available attachments but not 3 point hitch equipment for tractors.
Finally someone who knows.how to use the L28 to it's full potential ( no offense Tim) that is a full bucket! We demoed the L28 and was blown away, we have a fullsize 50" low pro bucket off of a t100 495 lbs empty with cutting edge, we had a full bucket of stone in it,...over 1600 lbs at full extension and wasnt tippy at all!
That isn’t fair. I was working in hard (very hard) soil. This is mulch.
Thanks for the video, I have an 855 and had wondered in the past if it could handle the stump grinding attachment
You guys are a great team to analyze and discuss the attributes of these unique machines and attachments.
Dirt Perfect and Tractor Time with Tim = An awesome review team! You guys should pair up more often
I have this exact Bobcat sg30 grinder, the original teeth are subpar a simple switch to a set of green teeth and then 250 lb Bobcat skid steer counterweights bolted to each side of the head made all the difference in the world it became a much more productive grinder without the bouncing.
i enjoyed watching Mike put the bobcat thru a quick test cycle in the mulch pile ...very clear he had a lot of experience with larger machines and knew how to test limits quickly (excellent)
ha! ole dirt perfect made the trip for another roller for his fleet(i'm assuming that as his wife left the cat out of the bag on her channel-lol) but i think too he's glad he brought his tractor along to show it to everyone, and to compare it. i seen Man Behind the Scenes was there too. great video-TTWT.
we have one for our bobcat. love it. it would drive my neck crazy looking back.
Speaking for all of us OLD guys, that looks a lot easier to get in and out of over a skid steer.
Yup I agree
I’d say so too! Definitely will have to bend down to reach the mounting points when throwing her on a trailer though
glad to see another tractor guys point of view on all of this. some features of the older tractors i wish they had never removed such as the left and right braking and the single slide forward and reverse with neutral/stop lever. however i do much appreciate the foot forward and reverse levers as it frees up my hands for fine point critical control of attachments whereas my hands and arms had to be a blur of motion in prior years. a single pedal forward reverse rocker pedal would be much nicer, like the older deer back hoe tractors had for their throttle, but a neutral cross safety lock for the pedal would be required to prevent accidental run aways, it would just be nice not to have to apply force while under travel the entire time as i have to do it for multiple hours at a time.
really hate all the safety switches that were implemented under that '96 congressional law. can't run a snow blower or tiller with out that reverse safety killing pto power. i have found ways around the worst offenders, but the forward reverse one is something i am still trying to figure out. tried it the way i did the others and for some reason (i believe reverse detection in another sensor some where changes polarity?) it won't work so i have lived with that nightmare since, plus position of that sensor is MM critical.
Well Tim I have not seen dirt perfect! I now will have to check this out! Great review it was very nice to see the stump grinder on a different tractor!! Great stuff!!!! Thank you
Good comparison. I really like that Bauma Lite as it'll fit perfectly on my tractor.
It was good seeing Martha out having fun with Daddy.
I know I'm late on this one, a year late. But the best attachment for this, or the one I think you'd love the most...an auger or earth drill. What did you hate about in on your compact tractor?...can't apply down pressure in hard ground. Shaft drive, not hydraulic, so very hard on the gears when you hit rocks. Speaking of rocks, can't reverse it when it gets stuck. Not enough lift capacity to pick it out the ground when it's tough going.
All solved with a hydraulic auger on this machine.
Thanks Tim!!! I ordered my 1P24 last week. It should arrive within the next week. Great price point. Haven’t seen any others at this price point
...and made in North America! The competitor is made in China!
@@TractorTimewithTim
Canada if I’m not mistaken? Right?
Yes. Just outside of Toronto.
Two speed transmission for sure. I’m super interested in that bobcat for round bale moving without causing more mud. I also think it would be good at post holes and stall cleaning. I suspect it is out of my price range though. How well do you think it will handle moving around in soupy mud? Do you think it could get 4x5 bale 3 high? Around 800to1300lbs. I like to stack mine flat side down. Hard to get perspective on the video sometimes. Is there room inside the cab for a camera view screen? How are the hydraulics for it? Is there enough flow to power a bush hog or automated wood splitter?
There’s no Bobcat dealer near me for me to see in person. Thanks for the video.
I don't think I've seen DP as diplomatic about equipment reviews as he has been in these 2 videos. I like this side of him; he was candid and articulate but still himself.
Hey Tim,
Cool video. That looks like a high capacity light materials bucket on the bobcat. Have you tried a smaller universal or dirt bucket with that loader? I think you would have better results in the digging, lifting, and breakout departments. I would use the bigger bucket for mulch, snow, and the like.
I think the Bobcat would be great for snow cleaning especially tight driveways.
Now you have to go and play with some of Dirt Perfect’s equipment
This was another great video. The 855 shined again. I have a little loader like that but mine is a Kubota R420 with a backhoe. They have their place but there isn’t a machine that does everything the best.
Wondering if you know if bobcat makes these small loaders and attachments in North Dakota? I have used the larger same style (sg60) bobcat stump grinder on a track loader t750 and it worked great. Visibility was top notch and plenty of power for larger 36in ash stumps.
I used to have the same bobcat grinder, i set it up with a remote control so I could operate it from the ground.
A couple of questions as well as a comment. On the bobcat, can you get it with the new r14 tires or the r4 tires? Maybe that would be a good compromise between getting into a pile of material effectively and still be gentle on the ground. Also, on the bobcat with the stump grinder, I was wondering if you could get a similar setup to what Ventrac has with their stump grinder as they have a mirror on top so you can see where you are grinding.
Love your presentation with dirt perfect. Love both channels
Great episode to span almost 40 years of equipment innovation. Seeing Dirt Perfect's 1986 Deere working gives me hope especially... As I'm hauling a neighbors old 1983 Ford/Shibaura tractor to the New Holland dealer tomorrow to see if she lives or becomes a parts machine. :-(
10:00 it's not a mismatch, it's the fact every one has run the big 3' vermeer grinders and that is how they have become accustomed to viewing. this one is small and that's what's throwing you off. you have to treat it like a weed whip where you can't actually see to well what you are cutting as it's going into the head and your feed back is the result of what's coming out instead. the other major difference is with the larger grinders you can take 3-4" off at a time so results are easier to see as well and because it's able to take on so much more you don't have anything to finesse you can just bull thru dirt to dirt.
WOW AWESOME VIDEO GREAT SHOW 👍 ALWAYS LOVE TO SEE WHAT'S NEW TO LEARN FROM Y'ALL TAKE CARE STAY SAFE 🙏
The bobcat strikes me as a great for a property maintenance company who needs snow removal equipment or for moving mulch and lighter yard work or construction sites. Heavy excavation not so much, but moving hay bales or animal feed around a farm seems like a great place for it.
Tim and dirt perfect a little advice on their stump cutter side you keep your teeth in the dirt longer you will dull them if you keep them in the wood you'll keep them sharper that's my experience
Yanmar sure makes a nice tractor and that was a great demonstration of the smooth hydro and the fine control on the 3-pt on it 👍
Turns out that I was wrong. This tractor designed and built in Horicon WI. Yes, yanmar engine.
Looks like you had such fun. Two kids playing in the dirt.
Tim - The stump grinder is listed for tractors equipped with hydrostatic drive. I assume that’s because it can be driven very slow as necessary to grind the stump. But I was wondering your thoughts on using this with manual transmissions. I have a JD 850 yamnar diesel that moves very slow in 1st low and wondering if this stump grinder would work-your thoughts? I’ve got several stumps to grind out here in Eastern WA state. Thanks for your channel and advice.
You'll have to ride the clutch pretty hard to make it work.
It really does need the hydro transmission.
Do you have rear hydraulics on your 850? I'm guessing no. If you DO have rear hydraulics (2 SCV's....4 ports), then you might be able to run the 3P24 swing type work for you. The only risk would be if the 850's 3 point could lift it. ..but I suspect it could.
@@TractorTimewithTim Yes; I have rear hydraulics (4 port w/ 2 SCVs) but the 3P24 swing is about twice the cost. I really appreciate your response, confirming what I sort of knew. My 850 has less than 1400 hrs on it and not much rust/well cared for but don't want to wreck the current clutch so I will NOT be stump grinding with it. Much appreciate your channel and response. Rewards for your faithfulness to Him. Thanks again. Craig
Wise choice.
Thanks for the kind words.
What kind of wood? The big tree in the beginning looked like a Locust, as did the smaller stumps. What kind of tree was the large stump done with the Bobcat? It would have been interesting to see the first stump grinder finish the large stump for comparison.
Have you ever reviewed the Bobcat "ToolCat" or ToyCat.?
Mulberry with tractor. Ash with Bobcat SAL.
You guys are great together!! Good video Tim
You guys compliment each other well. Nice video.
I this one sold, or just going back to the dealer's inventory? You haven't done too much damage to it (lol) and It's got what I want on it, except for the rear weights.
Contact Bobcat of Indy Whitestown/Lebanon In location for more info.
I was skeptical about the mini bobcat loader, but I think the way it doesn't tear up the ground when driving is a major plus. Also, the two range transmission will make it a workhorse.
I bought a Baumalight P 24 and used it on my 2006 BX24D. It worked great but after about 10 small stumps ground I tore a gear out of the PTO drive. The cost to repair the tractor was more than the P24. My Kubota dealer said that my tractor might be a bit too light for the stump grinder. I think both the P24 and my Kubota tractor are great products. I sold the Stump grinder. The Kubota dealer also sold me the Baumalight P24.
Ugh. Not so good. I guess we need to make sure the slip clutch is adjusted properly so that it will slip. This is the first I've heard of this problem.
@@TractorTimewithTim I bought the grinder in May of 2020 and the PTO shaft that came with the stump grinder had shear bolts instead of the PTO with a slip clutch. I had to actually order new shear bolts because the hardest bolts I could find were only an 8 hardness. The shear bolts were a 10.9 hardness and came from Baumalight in Canada. I think the PTO with the slip clutch may have prevented me losing the teeth in my PTO gearbox.
Oh my! Should not have been using 10.9 or grade 8 as a shear bolt!!!
The shear bolts from Baumalight were the recommended hardness that was stated in my manual. I ordered new shear bolts from the Kubota dealership where I bought the P24. Those 10.9 shear bolts came from Baumalight. I’m not sure what the specs were but I had never seen bolts rated at that hardness.
I do like watching your videos. I did trade my BX24D for a new BX23S. I used your video channel to help make my decision. I’ve owned three GR models for mowing grass and now I’m on my second BX tractor. Thanks.
That bobcat would be great with a snow pusher. Mike hit the nail on the head, great machine for a landscaper.
Like the video and review, I am wondering how you would like the older great drive models like an 870 and such.
I have some experience with a 750 and 770.
Rock solid machines! I’m just not a fan of gear drive on these little machines. They get used for a lot of loader work, mowing, and other PTO work. These tasks much more easily performed with a hydro transmission.
i think you need to put one of those ag camras on there then just wach the screen to use that acachament
Great work. Nice to see others opinions. Bless you brother
I like your tube videos. I haven't watched for a very long time but the information you share is helpful. I do have a question for Tim. I am not sure you know about the fuel injected stihl ms500i chainsaw but would like to watch a you tube and the info you share with your wstchers. The stihl chainsaw is the world's first fuel injected chainsaw. I have watched some you tube about them but wanted to know your thoughts and info about them
Welcome back, Neil!
New subscriber. Mark. Greetings. I have a question for you. I do grading, clearing, pads for garages or houses. Footers, catch basins, 6" pipe for drainage. I bought a new JD 5045e. It has 80 hours on it. The loader will lift 3,600 #'s. This Tractor is a brute beast. At first I was so happy with this Tractor. Matter of fact I said Thanks to God many, many times while sitting on that Tractor. I bought this Tractor because I had an LS 33 hp and didn't think it was strong enough for small stumps and bushes. But with 300 hours on the LS I will honestly say I had not one glitch or hiccup with that Tractor. So back to the 5045e when filling the bucket with gravel or dirt, it will pick it up, then going in to reverse the Tractor will wobble teeter totter then lean to the right and start to turn over. That's with water and antifreeze in the back tires and a 7' boxblade on the back. I can't tell you how many times I almost turned over. The saving grace is drop the bucket immediately. It will stable back up. I was taking off load after load of dirt to spread through the woods and a small bump or unlevel ground and it want's to turn over. I put $15,000 down on that Tractor. My 2 questions are did I buy the wrong Tractor and if I did what Tractor should I buy? The 3039 R With Backhoe? 2038 w Backhoe? The other problem with the 5045 is I had 45 yards of dirt delivered to my house. I spread some of it then it rained and it's been 5 months and I can't drive the Tractor in my yard. I sink down over a foot deep. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Mark.
You still need more weight on the back of the tractor the box blade is not enough
@@retireddriver16 would you keep the 5045?
Yes, you need more rear ballast. Probably 2000+ lbs on the 3 point hitch.
Based on your stated needs, I think you need a smaller tractor.. likely a 3039r.
@@TractorTimewithTim would the 2038 do the trick or is that too small?
Kubota SVL75
I had a few small stumps on my front hillside that I cleaned off. House was built in 45 and I'm the first one that didn't like looking at the brush right in front of the house. Anyway, there were a couple of stumps that if I didn't watch would catch my mower deck and that was a pain. The only way off was to back up and there was too much of a hill and I couldn't back up. I got one of the wood grinder heads for my 4" grinder, hooked it up to my 1K Honda suitcase generator and got down there on my knees and ground them off. Took quite a bit longer but then again the tractor would not have been able to back up the hill either. It would have been drive down grind, drive around to get back up on top of the hill and then drive down to take another swipe.
Is your tractor 4 wheel drive? And does it have dif lock? If so.... that’s got to be a steep hill!
Nice video tim and kristie and the old deere dit a great job with the stumps 👌👌👍
I have a small 3208 John Deere compact tractor hydrostat and I love it something in my my wife can drive and operate I love it I bought it back in '04 and I think it's got 600 hours on it it's always been garage keep or always been in the barn still like new also it's got a loader on it very handy
Welcome to our channel, Tony!
Great video
I look forward to the podcast episode
This is a great team up! DP is the best excavator driver out there and seems to be a pretty stand up guy. Great video!
Great video seeing you guys play and test equipment.
Gotta show the 855 on a legitimate size stump... or is that a part I missed? Maybe it only goes up to 6-8" because of how the PTO shakes the rear of the tractor.
No, it would have handled a ‘legitimate’ sized stump no problem.
Sorry to tell you my ASV would come through that muddy area carrying its full capacity all day with no damage ,I have a bobcat tool cat that’s get stuck soon as you leave the pavement
Tim if you were to keep the stump grinder and loader I'd put a camera on the shield so I could see what I'm doing
Hi Tim and Christy nice video it didn't take Mike long to get the hang of it
I think the perfect application for that wheel loader would be a school district or college. You could clear snow off the wide sidewalks, you could do mulch and landscaping, I imagine you could even mow assuming they have some sort of mower for it. Be great for loading salt into the spreaders in the bed of pickup trucks. Could a tractor do all this? Yes of course, but the articulation is what makes this the winner. Get into tighter spots without tearing up the grass or leaving the black marks on the concrete from tires sliding. I think that would be the application where it would really shine.
Yup I could see that
I’ve seen a couple similar machines that have a self powered snow blower. They clear the sidewalks like a dream. And leave no marks or damage in their wake. Considering they look like they’re from the late 60s, I think think the concept is sound.
Great job. I feel like it would hurt my neck looking back and down for a long period.
Looked like 2 kids at Christmas time with new toys. I'm jealous
I use to have a bobcat like that one but with a dump bed. keep it for a year and then traded it in. just was not my thing.
Totally different machine, Chris. That was the toolcat. This is a new machine.
@@TractorTimewithTim I know. It was nice . I had a landscape company and i gor it for the very reason you mensioned. just to weak and slow for me.
Being in the stump grinding industry I much prefer a dedicated stump grinder. Currently running a Rayco RG super 50.
How much $$?
@@TractorTimewithTim new or used? I bought mine used for $11k which is cheap most on the market because they are DEF go for $20k-$25k and the new gas RG55 is in the $55k range. Which you can buy a used 100hp model for less.
Thanks, that is my point. Adding a $2500 tractor grinder might be a good way to add grinding service to a beginning business. Once established, and you have saved a few $$, step up to a larger solution.
@@TractorTimewithTim that is true. But I know a guy in my area that uses one and he lost a tree guy to myself because he would tear up a yard going back and forth. Atleast that was the complaint that the tree guy had about him. Plenty of used smaller grinders out there that are dedicated units for cheap. I almost had a 25hp unit that I was gonna fix up for $1,000.
DP and TTWT, together in the same video. Without the hopping and jumping of the stump shredder, the tractors had the Hydrostatic pump to take care of the task at hand. Capt Kleeman has a JD 855 too, right?
We have a 40200 and it has the treepont lever like that one
You should do a video of showing all your equipment and a tour of you buildings that you store your machines in! Great video though!
@m9 ovich where?? I don’t see them
@m9 ovichsame but I want it like in one video
Hello guys . Very nice 855 .I have an 855 with loader 4by4 and a full cab .
Hi Tractor Time with Tim will you go and mess with some of Mikes stuff.
The 855 has good PTO power, I use some PTO attachments recommended for higher horsepower tractors on my 855 and it runs them very well!
Hey! Just picked up a 1300 hour, like new 855 4WD. Got a 513, 5' rotary bush hog, looking at a rototiller. How many inches wide do you find runs well behind the 855?
@@galehess6676 Nice! Sounds like you got yourself a good machine! I have a 5' Farm King rototiller, my 855 runs it no problem.
@@photocontrol I've now heard the 5' is no problem on a 24 HP machine. I did just get a 4' today though, so hopefully it's a wash far as overall area covered/time.
@@galehess6676 The 4' should do a good job for you.
Oh my...had a bad flashback there at the beginning! Absolutely!........lol Was that the Kioti guy in the past?
LOVE THE ARTICULATED LOADER
Any chance I can rent the grinder and Tim’s knowledge on my stumps? I think Tim would be impressed with my perfect shape 955 and my upgrades.
Where are you?
@@TractorTimewithTim Bancroft mi 48414 maybe spring time?
I call dibs on Tim's time, I'm just SE of Lebanon In.
@@stephendixon4619 lol ok your closer and I don’t think you can grind a frozen stumps. I’m hoping I can get a set of hydraulic multiplers on before I can get tim up here so I maybe get him to bring the 3 point offset flail mower he used on his 2 series on my ditch in front of my house. Push mowing isn’t cutting it lol. Who wouldn’t wanna see 2 series vs 955 👍
@@TractorTimewithTim here is my 955 ua-cam.com/video/c4HD4GFLkZ8/v-deo.html
No you see Tim you’re not the only one that likes to play in the dirt
i think that Bobcat would be great with a snow plow / blower
...or broom!
Great video Tim 🚜 I really enjoyed this video 🇺🇲
Tim you should talk to your neighbor that has the bobcat side by side to use his brush mower on your wheel loader.
Don’t think Bobby has enough hydraulic volume to run it.
@@TractorTimewithTim ya that would make sense
Maybe it's just me, but that older 855 just sounds more ... "diesely" to me than the new one. Not gonna lie, I'm a little jealous.
You’re right. Mainly because the 855 has a direct injection engine.
International Payloaders also had the cab on the front section
You should have a look at Weidemann. They are a german brand and makes loaders simular too that bobcat your using. You should have a look!
You'll never be able to avoid all the dirt, but you absolutely want to keep it out of as much dirt as you can. Sharp teeth will chew through stumps in 1/3 the time as dull teeth, and nothing dulls a tooth like dirt and rock.
dirt and tim that is great
Maybe a camera on the Bobcat with a monitor in the cab would greatly help with the sightline issue?
Blessings to y’all
Tim this stump grinders a great may invest in one
God Bless All
PaK
wasn't officer Hoover along on this trip?
No. They stopped at Hoover’s on the way home.
@@TractorTimewithTim ah, o.k. I got the wrong impression from that video of DP and MBTS at the "Hoover Hotel" .
There's an interesting difference between US and Europe. You guys say: "it's a nice concept, definitely not as universal as a compact tractor."
Here in Europe most people buy Avant and Multione loaders considering them way more universal than the compact tractors. If US sales are 95:5 in favor of the tractors, in Europe the ratio would be the other way around.
Anyway, I'm just about ot buy something for my 6 acre property and really struggle to make a decision. The options are Kubota or John Deere on one side vs. Avant and Multione on the other side (Bobcat loader not included, as both Avant and Multione are Europen brands and are the better choice dealership/price/parts/maintenance/etc wise)
We don't have enough variety of these units to make them competitive. Dealerships are too few. Support isn't quite there yet.
This particular Bobcat brand is not powerful enough.
The Avants are too expensive, and not compatible enough with existing attachments.
I can definitely see their versatility. I think they have a chance to take over the US market, but not until Deere or Agco gets involved.
@@TractorTimewithTim Yeah, I see. I guess your explanation also applies to Europe: Deere is very expensive here, dealerships are too few, basically nonexisting aftermarket, etc...
It seems like in this particular field US and EU are two different worlds. :)
I assume I will get the quotes from the dealers for all those brands I mentioned within a week or two. Let's see what one can get and for what price...
that little bobcat loader reminds of the old international hugh loader
What is the PTO hp on the tractor?
Rated at 18-19 I think.
19
1st!!! Bless you Tim and your family!
Nice video. Nice collab! Call it tractor dirt or tim perfect!😂😃
How far away is dirt perfect from your house Tim ?
Guessing 2.5 hours
I wonder how it would do for a tree service?
👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🗽🙏🏻 Enjoyed! Do you guys live in the same area?
When is the comparison video of Bobcats 1025 vs JD 1025 coming?
We’ll see what we can do.