Edgy Black Comedy.
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- Опубліковано 27 січ 2024
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I'm back. This is a topic that's been on my head for quite a while now.
Every hack internet comedian punching down and doing their best imitation of a marginalized group with no accountability kind of gets grating after a while.
The question I began asking was "Where does this come from?" The answer slowly revealed itself when I took a look back at a lot of the media that influenced them in the first place.
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I cover media and discussion topics from a black leftist lens framed around The Boondocks, black identity and a range of nerdy stuff I'm into. In my spare time, I supply food for a foodbank, infrequently attend an afro diaspora community garden and I'm developing a black indie video game called NIXIE.
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Some extra thoughts because this "It's counter culture" narrative has to die.
This idea that making jokes about trans people or people with disabilities is some form of 'counter-culture' is so tone deaf. Trans people are murdered for many of the 'jokes' cis-gendered people make light of.
Suicide rates for people with disabilities are ridiculously high, and making light of the issues with accessibility and social 'normality' is not counter culture.
You aren't participating in any form of counter culture by making fun of trans people. Hate to tell you, but that's been happening for centuries. You're not the free speech advocate you think you are. In being obsessed with appearing like the underdog, people have contorted an idea in their minds that the rising support for marginalised groups is the norm. It really isn't. And, a lot of you are old enough to remember that.
Lastly, I think being 'cancelled' or held accountable for being inconsiderate online has been falsely equated to these struggles, and that's also disgustingly untrue. I must go back to the point that a lot of these people are systematically without support, vilified and *again* being murdered. You are not the same.
You lose followers, and they lose lives. You are not the same. Hiding behind the narrative of 'free speech' and cosplaying as counter culture to justify your bigotry only makes you coward.
I am a trans person who is in the pipeline of getting HRT in a religious family….one of these family members talk transphobia masked with social and religious concerns. It needs to be said. Some of us may be silent, but it is because when you are in the closet, you are in the dark and the concept of ‘culture’ is a black box.
Sometimes, you never know what you will get.
Thank you for saying this, I needed this solidarity. My mom and dad support me, and that is all that matters as far I care about in my ‘family’. Anyone else who do is icing on the cake. I wish it didn’t have to be this way, but it is.
Agree. The thing is they genuinely don't **believe** they're punching down, because they only expose themselves to the worst side of 'cancel culture'.
Like if your entire opinion of leftists was formed around going on 4chan and seeing what the worst the left-wing has to offer is (grifters, liars, "SJWs", attentionwh*res), then yeah, of course you think they're "evil" and need to be punched. They deserve it, right?
But that's the problem with being in a bubble that just makes fun of them - You'll only ever see the worst ones.
And before anyone says it, NO I'm not advocating going to the bubble on the opposite side. You shouldn't live in a bubble period!
Beautifully said.
Straight facts. As a cis gender black man they use the terms politically incorrect or it's just jokes or people are soft or again use free speech to just plain hate. They use it for racism, bigotry, misogyny, and every phobia of pure just hatred.
They use half truths aka lies, fearmongering,fallacies and strawman arguments to justify demonizing everyone who isn't like them. They repeatedly use continuous propaganda and using terms continuously like we're telling the truth to again take control and make hateful things like woke, dei, CRT, social issues, beta etc. Then cry victim when called out about the literal hate they're spreading and the consequences happening world they caused.
TALK TO EMMMM
Edgy itself has become so commercialized people started conflating edge with offensive and offensive with bigotry rather than actually pushing boundaries
So much of the stuff I grew up liking was described as edgy by media outlets (in a good way!) And that could be something as vulgar as Boondocks to something as simple as Sonic. It's really sad that the term has been so hijacked in recent years.
A lot people are using blackness as the controversy in itself by outrage merchants, Woke, DEI, Affirmative action, it’s just new buzz words standing in for racial slurs meant to be a repackaging of the black boogieman blackness as the boogieman
A lot people are using blackness as the controversy in itself by outrage merchants, Woke, DEI, Affirmative action, it’s just new buzz words standing in for racial slurs meant to be a repackaging of the black boogieman blackness as the boogieman
A lot people are using blackness as the controversy in itself by outrage merchants, Woke, DEI, Affirmative action, it’s just new buzz words standing in for racial slurs meant to be a repackaging of the black boogieman blackness as the boogieman
A lot people are using blackness as the controversy in itself by outrage merchants, Woke, DEI, Affirmative action, it’s just new buzz words standing in for racial slurs meant to be a repackaging of the black boogieman blackness as the boogieman
people use "edgy" as an excuse to be rude with no depth and chile.......................
theyll be same people that be complaining with the word woke just so they can indirectly express their bigotry
I saw that urban dictionary thing about schrodingers asshole. Applies to a lot of edgelords.
@@magnolt right?? And then point the finger at you like you're the one whining 😂😂nah I'm just saying what's what.
Facts
@@magnolt agreed
I like that Lenarr Young is just doing his own thing not bothering nobody
I love Lenarr. He's kind of underrated these days.
Lenarr is goated
Lenarr is mad underrated
@@TheStorytellerAJWhat was that song that starts around 11:08 ?
Lenarr is definitely the most unique with the way he edits his videos alone.
Ye can't lie, certain people use "dark humor" and "edgyness" as a cop out
7:16 Exactly bruh
@@yourlocalusername392 it's schrodingers douchebag
Edgy now only means unironic bigotry and nihilism as 'humor'
Yeah its very annoying
Isn't there a Spongebob episode about this? Like, the episode where Spongebob keeps making jokes about Squirrels because that's what people laugh at and despite Sandy laughing at first, she quickly grows uncomfortable with the jokes and it evolves to the point where people who she doesn't even know insult her on the street just because she's a squirrel. Spongebob made an episode critiquing this sort of behavior in comedy decades ago now, yet people haven't learned!!! And if people can't learn from a Spongebob episode then they are a lost cause ngl.
One slight correction in that Sandy never genuinely laughed at those jokes, she just chuckled along with Patrick out of being uncomfortable. Sometimes people will do that just to avoid being singled out in public
Damn…
That’s why CalebCity is so goddamn awesome. His comedy is more than just “(insert oppressed group) is weird amirite!!?”
That and he's really good at kicking his own ass
it's funny because he is like the only one in that sorta genre that i really watch and i would always see people comparing him to those other guys but i could never really get into them. this video really made me realize why
@@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW i think the only good comparison for calebcity is rdcworld, because they both do similar sort of comedy without picking on groups and shit like that
@@comradejux right, I watch them too
@@comradejuxRDC and tra rags are just the best one imo the guy in the video hates on tra rags hut honestly i dont think ive consistently laughed till i couldnt breathe at any content than for tra rags
So many people cloak their bigotry behind jokes and are rewarded for it. Thank u for this.
Also I liked the Jimmy Rebel episode but if it disappeared and was replaced with an episode where Huey and Jasmine save a tree, I’d be happy to watch it
I think a lot about how they wrote, planned and casted an actor for Caesar. And, then still produced Jimmy Rebel.
@@TheStorytellerAJ CAESAR ACTUALLY GOT CASTED? I'm so sad oh god
@@thedumbone8741 Ms Kittie was gonna play him.
@@TheStorytellerAJ this is earth shattering I thought they just straight up discarded him because of Huey and the rest's change in personality, nooooo
So many people break their vagina over some random guy on the internet saying a joke that doesn’t conform to their sensibilities and then immediately start spewing buzzwords “bigotry” like it doesn’t make them look intellectually impaired.
Get over yourself child.
It's crazy how you right you are that pretty much EVERY product of black entertainment that's viewed as having high quality is seen as "edgy". Even generally wholesome sitcoms like Fresh Prince or Good Times were of-the-time edgy 🤔 I think to a large extent that's marketing more than reality but it also makes me scratch my head as to why the "friendly" lane is always empty for us. To specify one area, I think among black people there's a pretty strong habit of boxing wholesome or "positive" music into the "corny" category but regardless of how non-black their base may end up due to that I never see those kinds of acts never get huge regardless. I've seen huge "unproblematic" black personalities but their work isn't/wasn't wholesome or "family friendly" so it still sort of negates that being possible for their brand
mf say they got edgy humor until you joke about their religion
That’s facts
nationalism fs one of those religions
i know many people like this. the minute you joke about religion, you're taking things too far. but thats because they legit dont see any other world view except their own.
There’s way too many people that exists like this within the world. The irony and hypocrisy is insane especially if their beliefs doesn’t condemn any form of mockery
What if I don't have edgy sense of humor and someone makes a joke about my religion and I feel offended what does that say about me
I will say that Tra Rags generally has been a lot more creative with his recent videos. With him continuing and adding on to storylines he's set up years ago. But yeah there's still that lingering feeling of needing to be controversial.
You barely touched on Griffy though, if there was anybody I'd call creatively bankrupt it'd be him.
The red shirt storyline was an excellent turn. I have been watching him for two years and didn't expect this.
Griffy I felt was implicit, cause' imo TraRags is following along the path of Griffy.
I think I wanted to talk more about Tra cause he's new. Like, he's a recent example of this phenomena, and felt the need to do and create the things he did.
I think focusing on the who's isn't as important as going "what is compelling people to fall back on this stuff just to facilitate their growth?"
Dunzledorf and the red shirt guy were his best storylines imo.
@@batboythecoolSo proud of him. He grew up in a dangerous environment and he made it out! I remember the video where he said the were b. holes in the wall and he thought one day he'd just... not be here anymore. Living with his mom and sister. He bought a home and moved his family out of that mess. ❤
@@xavion2678Tra Rags did that?
Fam. Griffy and Tra Rags. chapelle. the way they fell off and turned to asshol-ism is actually upsetting. the edginess is just. it's so absolutely deadout smh.
Edginess is in the realm of one of the things I hate the most: unnecessary contrarianism for the sake of it. people will say + do THE MADDEST things, and think that because people are (rightfully) upset about it, that they're in the "right". so many ways to stand out, and they always pick the most horrible low effort ways to do that. corny AF. I strongly feel that if you can't be funny without punching down, then you might have not ever really been that way fr, your stats are capped smh.
This is why I love calebcity so much. he doesn't need to shit on people's identity and existence. he's just fully in his absurdism bag and I love him for it. Need more man like him.
in 2024, let's do away with all this cursed edginess and read the room. black men shitting on other minorities is genuinely so disappointing, we gotta do better.
But yh, lemme stop rambling. another gr8 vid, thanks!!
Explain who chappelle is punching down on?
Also “black men shitting on other minorities” is a problem, but dressing up like a crackhead named Tyrone was perfectly acceptable? Nah keep laughing… let’s ALL laugh together
@@kingjoeblack5 your mom
@@YZaiCreates 🥱
@@kingjoeblack5
I'm glad someone brought up how much Tra Rags and Griffy's content deteriorating over time
Especially griffy
He really fell of bruh. He now is just a bigot.@@Takashii85
Seriously, I'm so tired of seeing black content creators constantly joke about racism and slavery....like bro your non black audience is laughing at you, not with you....
Are you white
I would disagree here. Not everyone. Take me for example. I'm not black. Not even close. I was brought up with shitty white conservative values while not ever setting my eyes on a white person IRL. But I grew and learnt. I believe others can do so too. Just because someone isn't black doesn't mean they can't learn to overcome their racism and start thinking beyond that. I know a lot of people who were brought up in better environments and while they too aren't black they are not racist, not in the personal sense atleast, and definitely not in the context where they'll laugh at enslaved people in a skit for being enslaved, whatever race they are.
@@8lec_RI think your perspective is limited here.
@@voxomnes9537 yes. I'm aware. That's why I'm just giving my perspective. It's lacking because I'm only person.
I'm not saying OP is wrong or anything. Just trying to add the they made
@@8lec_R how can someone unlearn or correct their bigot ideas with content that promotes bigoted ideas and stereotypes??? The point I was trying to make, is that these self degrading racist jokes only aid to the stereotypes against black people. I think it's important for these content "comedians" to understand the joke they are making, who they are making it to and who is actually laughing at them.
Its hard for some people to see what is still considered edgy "edgy", when its being profitted off of more heavily. Caleb city has always been creative and has always pushed good skits. He doesnt always hit, but i have so much respect for him not trying to punch down when a joke doesnt land. Thats what i think a true comedian is.
I think time and experience also plays a part as well. A big reason why a lot of "edgy" media catches on is because there is almost always a sizeable amount of people who have never engaged with whatever ideas, be they good or bad, the media is talking about or focused on. So even if it isn't necessarily coherent or well-thought out, as long as it catches your attention by virtue of never being heard before, which is often the case with younger and/or less experienced individuals, it's done it's job.
Most of the edgelords you see online are, if they aren't grifters, usually teens and young adults that don't know much about anything and are fairly sheltered aside from the small bubble of their own life experience. And the easiest targets for selling a product or an ideology are those who don't quite fully grasp what they're being sold.
I think that's all the more reason to be mindful what we put out. I think there's ways to subversive without lazily just being bigoted for example right.
Cause you're right that people are obsessed with it. Specifically that "they don't want you to see this one" narrative cause it enhances their enjoyment of things and makes it feel cool to them.
Its a weird one to tackle for sure.
Well articulated. I do notice that punching down to be "controversial" is what gets called edgy. Compare that to substantial humor that takes shots different tatgets and the difference is night and dsy
the boondocks, and huey as a character, is by far the most misinterpreted character ive ever seen on the internet. another banger man ‼️
Fifteen minutes of hit after hit after hit. No misses.
I wish we could make content and/or art without having to be outlandishly edgy. However I also wish we could make things where black characters... can be black. I want to see more of myself in media. Great video btw.
I used to see this narrative so often of "We want black apolitical content" and never really understood it (and still don't cause everything is political!)
But with time, I think I'm understanding its kind of a language thing. I think people are tired of blackness constantly having to play the role of shock value and edge.
When we needed him most he finally came.
Great videos and I’m glad you talk about this. While I like shock value a little bit it always depened on the context and punchline. But now it feels like dark comedy is just rooted in so much hatred and bigotry I can’t tell if they’re being serious or not which is kinda scary.
Also it’s getting really annoying how SOME black comedy will do the same old trope of woman especially with black woman. If you’re going to be offensive and edgy atleast be different about it.
And one more time I find it so funny on how people will laugh at Riley jokes especially the gay jokes not getting the fact that the narrative is laughing at him and presenting him as the ignorant one.
Anyway
Keep up the amazing work and I can’t wait for your next one.
About 20 years since the show aired and this is still prevalent.
Man I miss when they didn't use the word edgy as a replacement for offensive. When it just meant pushing societal boundaries in new and exciting ways like sonic did with mascots or how boondocks pushed the boundaries of what TV could show.
remembering that sonic is edgy really gave me whiplash on how much the word has changed
Yeah I missed when people weren’t bleeding from their pussy about other people’s friendly banter all because their self esteem is reliant on everyone else stroking their ego and validating their existence.
fkn love your content man. the way you take the time to reevaluate the assumptions we have on certain topics before engaging with them is such an underappreciated skill in this space. Challenging the foundations of these discussions and choosing not to engage with them on the terms of the oppressors, but putting in the effort to spin all those plates at once is so inspiring. ❤
I know I'm observing as an outsider as a white transfem but being the target of some of this "edgy" humor that comes from black comedians its incredibly refreshing hearing a proper deconstruction on what "edgy" really means and how it can be self destructive as a commodity in media. I really gotta love the point on black comedians taking jabs at black women in particular too. Misogynoir is a phrase bandied about often in white feminist spaces sometimes when black feminists run up against so called 'comrades' chastising them in the same way that misogynists would toward women in general but its just not expressed how widespread the effect is in those spaces by 'woke' white feminists.
Real insightful stuff. I love it.
Your videos are always so well thought out and precise in their ideas. Keep up the good work
Glad you like them!
Recording a video during work is black solidarity in affect 🤣 Subbed
I do think it has a universal factor as I also see a lot of especially comedians of any race jump onto the 'edgy' trend.
And isn't inherently bound to blackness.
But I do see how blackness seems bound to edgyness. If you know what I mean
been watching your videos for a long while, glad to see you back. your videos are always well-made and it’s nice to see you in my notifs tab again.
It’s interesting seeing your critique, and noticing a reactive sentiment even in some comments here. Comedy in general seems to be trapped in an evolutionary arms race between agreeable comedy, and edgy comedy. They are two completely opposing ecosystems. Black comedy has been even since I was a kid of the ecosystem that has leaned more towards the side of edgy, often playing the devil’s advocate to what James Baldwin mentioned as a white society of power. Katt Williams could have been lying about every single thing he said, but it doesn’t matter, because what he said was so seductive in how against the grain it was. It fought against that power (black star power, but power nonetheless) and that plays precisely into what that ecosystem craves.
What arises becomes a push and pull effect. The more progressive the general public becomes, the less of an ecosystem a lot of boundary pushing comedy has to stand on. That forces these types of comedians to then push their boundaries further to the point that the only direction they can go is down. I can see how Dave Chappelle making fun of the disabled or trans people can be seen as so wrong to many, but observing it from the evolutionary arms race perspective puts it into better focus. With him being at the top, what other directions could an edgy comedian like him go towards anymore? (Not saying he’s right in doing so, just making an observation.)
To me they cultivate that audience for the same reason that UA-camrs like Tra Rags and Griffy inevitably do. The more people shame them for what they can’t say, the more people of their ecosystem can’t wait to hear them say it, and at a certain point, that expanding appeal and attraction becomes more seductive than surrendering to what’s agreeable. It seems like one feedback loop's offenses builds the defenses of the others, and so on and so until we spin the next cycle through. It’s starting to remind me a lot of what edgy online comedy was in the Obama years. Contrarian, offensive, and (to them) most importantly, ‘right’. Great video!
So glad you're back!
Bruh im so happy i found this video, i really thought i was buggin thinking that i was the only one watching griffys videos like wtf am i doing here and why am i watching this? But this helps me understand what happened to the channel. Its his brand now and to abandon that is to abandon everything hes built.
Babe wake up, New TheStoryteller just dropped.
My goat has returned
Honestly saying, I’ve been watching you for literally the longest. You have great talents in what you do, really Just thought I’d let you know that people are looking forward to hearing from you and you should be very proud of yourself, thanks for another one. Blessings 🙏
11:37 Absolute bars bro. You've got a great mind.
The fact that these creators have proven that they have the capacity to be poignant with their comedy is what makes this so frustrating. A few months ago Griffy had an excellent skit making fun of tourists that wanted to still go to Hawaii despite the natives begging people not to come because the tourism industry is literally killing the islands. It makes it hard to recommmend his videos, especially to my trans friends cause great material like that is packaged with the shit mentioned in Storyteller's video.
Mind you, this is just an example as this comment, much like the video, is not about calling out one or two specific people but a collective problem with them just being examples of said problem.
So basically you only want skits that align with your beliefs or that punch up?
@LowResLeafa Great strawman.
Now let's try engaging with what I actually said instead of a reductionist version of it.
Applying nuance ≠ agreeing with my beliefs.
Oh hey how u been?
Alive. Game dev'ing. Playing Ace Attorney. Balancing life things.
aye new video know you been working hard on it def worth the wait!!!
Comedy is all about someone being the butt of the joke🤷♂️
This was deep but needed.
Another really great video from you! I’ve missed your stuff!
You take the words out of my mouth there.
Love the video
Thank you so much for making this.
Yeah It was sad seeing griffy and tra rags slowly get more and more weird and repetitive especially cause they really can choose to be funny when they want to. It's always transphobia too, also I heard the Kids see ghosts lmao (great song)
right, and that's something i wanted to make clear. they're clearly capable of being funny. But, so much of their come up was just punching down, and also feel the need to return back to it every now and then.
Kids See Ghosts is never not gonna get a feature on this channel lol
"It's always transphobia." Do you watch their content because what you're talking about is like a small portion of their videos
"only some of the videos have transphobia," is a crazy assessment and you need to realize that sooner rather than later.
@TheStorytellerAJ Reread my comment because I said a small portion which is true. Also, making a joke and hating trans people are two different things.
@@TheStorytellerAJwhat do u mean punching down the lgbt+ community has has way more progression in laws ,entertainment and preference of marketing
Black ppl hardly even have black couples on tv no more
Let's not even mention socio economic pushforward
Part of it, at least on youtube is the curse of the algorithm. If you put out something negative, it gets pushed and its all about the engagement. I doubt a lot of these edgelords believe the stuff they put out, it's all about the engagement. The problem is is that they paint themselves into a corner.
100%. UA-cam used to be even worse with this kind of content, I remember watching a video on it where someone left a fresh UA-cam account on autoplay for a few hours and came back to gore
I think part of it is people generally engaging with the content, positive or negative responses, and the other part is that you're engaged long enough to actually watch the short in full to begin with. Attention is a currency: 5 minutes hate-watching is more profitable for UA-cam than you liking a video because you agreed with the first 2% of the video and trusted the creator enough to dip
I remember years ago the algorithm recommended to me a channel that argued the Holocaust was fake, absolutely no idea why I hadn't been engaging with anything to do with the Holocaust or Nazis or antisemitism or anything like that. I clicked on it out of curiosity, it had millions of views and more likes than dislikes. That was a terrifying day, this was over a decade ago so hopefully that video has long since been taken down. But it goes to show even some of the most horrific subjects get likes and engagement.
dawg i found ur channel through ur boondocks videos (i was rewatching boondocks) but holyshit i fell in love with ur content, keep going!! 😭😭‼
Glad you like the stuff
This was a beautiful video, and i agree implicitly. Thr funny thing, ice been saying "The Chad Caleb City vs The loser Long Beach Griffy" for yearsssssss now, and never once considered that this issue was a black one, and i feel a little silly for that now that youve laid out all the elements and bare bones.
Youve been one of my fav YouTibers for years. As life has gotten busier, I dont have the time to watch a lot of vids as soon as i get the notification, but i woke up to this and clicked immediately. ❤
Keep doing what you're doing, man. Im too broke to support in patreon, but im rioting for you.
I remember when trarags was coming up, me and my friends thought he was one of the funniest black skit makers, loved his red shirt character plus he's philly based it was so cool to see, but then he started, slowly morphing into a more "more offensive = more funny" kind of guy, and, yeah some times an offensive joke can land depending on delivery, context, target etc like all jokes. But his started feeling sort of try hard like the scales were tipping from it being less funny and more shocking, and when me and my friends noticed it was deeply upsetting to see the path he was taking with his humor cause it turned just largely mean spirited, and of course his audience became the "don't like it, leave" demographic which in all honesty is cancerous to comedy because thats not a comedy audience anymore, its a hugbox, they dont want laughs they want someone to validate various bigotrys through the guise of humor since comedy can very easily be hijacked to form a vehicle that changes its goal from making most people laugh and happy to making some people laugh at the expense of taking unwarranted shots at people they disagree with or people who make the comedian and audience uncomfortable and insecure with themselves.
yooooo finally you back and can't wait for the game to release
Edgy humor fans when the joke is about straight people or religion:
Still funny
“Edgy” humor fans when they try making jokes about straight people or religion because they feel persecuted by society and need to stroke their ego:
Seriously though you’re literally fabricating realities that don’t exist. Nobody cares if you make a joke about either of those things. Your issue is that you suffer from a persecution complex and need to jab back at the “oppressors” and you try to mask your insecurities by calling everyone offended when they call your jokes pathetic.
Happy to see this, I remember unsubscribing from Griffy probably a year+ ago because of a weird video about how beating your children is good and people who say "don't do that" are the crazy ones, and another one that was JUST TRANSPHOBIA
"But it's just comedy, chill" 💀
"I'm just an entertainer"ing their way out of responsibility is a common pipeline.
I think i remember that caleb skit you bring up at the end. I did unsubscribe from him at the time because of it, but im glad to know he took it down
I don't blame anyone for stopping watching him after that, but the reason I didn't was because it was really off-brand and he took the video down. He hasn't done anything like it since, and his come-up wasn't on the back of that sort of content.
I don't have to give a disclaimer if I'm showing someone a CalebCity video.
Nah, he's still solid, resub.
CalebCity is a great point. I literally forgot he made that video until you put it on screen because I don't associate transphobic skits with him
Another banger video man! Keep going brother 🔥
Edgy used to mean something. Now it's just whatever half-assed, poorly written nonsense you can crank out by the end of a week or two.
Stay vigilant for you have got yourself a new subscriber.
You’re going to have a lot of Tra Rags fanboys coming after you all because you said something about the overall performance of his videos.
Isn’t ironic how they tell you to take a joke when they can’t take an opinion themselves, now that’s comedy 🎭
I feel mostly bad for them. His videos are going to age like dry toast and they'll feel silly.
Thats why i like lenarr and caleb. They are funny as hell and got nice personalities they dont need to put people down and laugh at them for views
Yeah I used to watch Longbeachgriffy before the pandemic but had to stop because he kept making rape and SA jokes and I just couldn't anymore. Then when people called him out on twitter he got all mad.
Isn't his friend a rapist?
Is this going to be a LongBeachGriffy dragging?
Sign me up!
Great vid as usual!
I think capitalism has cornered the perception of black art as shock value and by essence, contrarian and partisan. There is a point in edge, at least a circle of points. Art bubbles and insulates culture as a product of time, not just in the past, but present and future. As someone who is mexican american, and anti-religious, I get it. Our culture has one of the most bloody history with colonialism and christianity. Honestly, it goes back to containing the edge as a sort of bubble, to be shared with but it can ‘pop’.
Capitalist re-appropriates, it never owns or creates. And it is why someone Chapelle and other black comedians can be praised one day, and thrown away another.
I also see this bubble of how art being reclaimed explictly in the political world for black people and I think I am kind of horrifed by it tbh. As an ‘all art is propaganda’ guy, positively, neutrally or negatively, I am very careful with edgy humor. It actually sort of makes me anxious when considering black counter culture as art because I really, really identify with the black struggle. Being raised in poverty, and I sympathize alot.
…But when I see some people say something edgy that disturbs me, and that just triggers my anxiety and ptsd. The instant defense if you critique is sort of unrestrained pushback to double down and just be a dick. And for black creators of some stripes, it is a cover I get worried about.
Case in point, Tra Rags and Griffy, just for the ‘satire’ and ‘parody’, everytime I see them, I get a bit anxious. I wish I could drop some other names from the political space that happen to be edgy, but I am not brave enough.
Edit: Okay, I got my nerve back rewatching, great work as always. I think when I get back into game dev since I got a team now, I will be sure to share my world with you. I am just glad you are back lol, the little things.😂
I’ve noticed that I’m gradually starting to distance myself from creators like Trarags and LongBeachGriffy. I thought they were more entertaining because they weren’t afraid to be controversial. But, seeing how every single video of theirs is punching down on a marginalized community, even ones that I’m a part of, is incredibly stale and distasteful.
There’s a way to do dark comedy without making any individual or community feel ostracized, but that takes comedic skill and talent which the vast majority of these “edgy” creators either don’t have or aren’t willing to hone in on.
in 2 minute fashion? How?
so the discourse this weekend started with ben fucking shapiro doing a compressed auto-tune "bar" on a tom macdonald video and i've not been able to process my stupid anger about it. i know this had nothing to do with that, but it helped. thanks.
Let's gooo new storyteller video!!
lol im watching this at work and the teams notif sound jumpscared me. well played.
I'm glad someone heard it loool. I was so mad
(Ironically) finally someone said it, Huey is FAR from what people interpret him to be
I just think they view him the way they do because he's just "Smart "Woke" black character in a show that parodies everyone else"
The Recommending Numbers bless this video.
i always felst some typa way about tra rags new vids but i could never quite put my finger on it this sumed it up perfectly
“Finally someone said it” is usually something people been saying.
Edgy has actually become conservative
As a
"As a _______, I really didn't think _______ was a big deal"
The soundtrack to this video was very appreciated. Made me miss my grandparents.
Who says entertainment has to be empowering?
Chris Rock "why does everything I do gotta represent my whole race, sometimes I want to be smart some times I wanna be dumb,but it's like I fail my whole race when I'm not black enough "
It's from everybody hates chris I dont remember the episode though
The GOAT Is Back
Great content.
Honestly growing up in this generation I have a skewed of what edgy even means.
Love this breakdown
Thumbnail is accurate
Seriously???? Huey on Andrew Tate fanboi accounts???? 🤯😂🤦♂️🤮😓 Wtf have we come to
Thank you for saying this, because this is something that needs to be said.
This is a banger video
Currently watching the boondocks now(on s4)! Great video!!
Season 4 sucks. Aaron McGruder had very little to no involvement in it and Huey rarely has a role.
Great video fam
More people need to see this video, but its this exact thing that UA-cam doesn't want to promote because this kind of content brings them more money/viewers
Listening to your points, I come to think that in relation to black American comedy, it’s mainly been about how the loudest voices in it are the ones that audiences associate blackness with the most. Especially with people outside of the community. And within black comedy, those voices (Katt Williams, Dave Chappelle, Richard Pryor, etc.) have served as one of a few bridges between the black community and the rest of the country in the sense that, for however ‘edgy’ it is, it still hits in ways that get people to laugh while also becoming fascinated with contemporary aspects of black culture. The same could be said of any culture within a similar context, really, but one has to figure that the easiest path to acceptance is often the one most traveled. And as long as your comedy makes people laugh, you’re very likely to see people gravitate toward the culture surrounding it.
Tra Rags, LongBeachGriffy, and other channels that have generated controversy like them also cultivate audiences of people who oftentimes share the unpopular opinions they display in their content. A big part of it is definitely about the money, but I think an even bigger part of it is how they’re looked at as mouthpieces for their fans who agree with or relate to the “punching down” talking points. It illustrates a point about how they satirize black culture’s most popular talking points (as well as opposing opinions levied against communities like the LGBTQ+ community) knowing that they will always have an audience that listens and connects to those points… and then there’s the stuff they do purely for shock value, but that’s literally all over UA-cam regardless of the content creator’s skin color. Hell, there’s still a video up by FilthyFrank/Joji (who is Japanese) called “Pimp My Wheelchair” where a black disabled man is the target of at least 15 minutes’ worth of edgy jokes aimed squarely at him for the exact reasons you’d think they were aimed at him. And yet, people still find it funny and celebrate it as part of “the good old times when humor could just be humor without it being politically charged.”
Well said My Brotha.!👍🏾
Now let’s go back to work.
WOOO NEW STORYTELLER VIDEOOO
Really love your work here, Storyteller. I love your analysis of Black Culture through Boondocks, and this was a really good topic. Black creators might be using edgy humor a bit too much as of late.
A prime example for me is Dave Chappelle, i do think that his commentary on the LGBT+ community in previous specials was pretty okay profound even. But with his most recent special, It just felt less substance more edge compared to his earlier work
So, i wholly agree with your conclusion that edginess is fine, but if that's all your content is gonna amount to than thats a problem.
Not a big video essay guy, but when this was in my suggested, I just had to tap in... and rest assured I was far form dissapointed! You hit the nail right on the nose with this, and I'm eager to watch more from your channel.
Welcome to the team
Nice vid bro keep it up
“As far as I can make out, 'edgy' occurs when middle-brow, middle-age profiteers are looking to suck the energy, not to mention the spending money, out of the quote, unquote youth culture. So they come up with this big concept of seeming to be dangerous, when every move they make is the result of market research and a corporate master plan.”
-Daria Morgendoffer
I came to say the same 😂😂😂🎉🎉
always love an upload from you boss
New bill Bellamy set is gonna be a banger
beautiful video!
If someone thinks of punching down on something that is equal, what does that say about the person saying thats punching down.
crazy cause grif used to be really funny I guess its easy and profitable to be a hack. tra went straight to it and dave chappelle showed that some audiences think "offending" people is enough of a joke.
I gotta disagree with alot of the trarags and griffy complaints. In a majority of their skits, they dont just make fun of the minority, they make fun of EVERYONE which is why alot of people say "im trans, but i laughed at this!", I think anyone who has been doing this for as long as they both have (5+ years) definitely cant exactly be considered "lazy" especially when many other channels trying to produce the same content failed. At the end of the day, they could be better, we all can, but those dude are really just 2 Christian dudes making skits, and probably dont actually a majority of what they make videos about.
Thanks for saving me
@@sludgepls no prob
I read "The Myth and Propaganda of Black Buying Power" after you referenced it in an older video.
Idk if you’re going to read this, but what’s the song that’s playing at 12:00..?!
Woke 💀nah, in the last couple of years, so many right-wing Black channels have popped up & for some reason, they're Popular.