@@BrakvashHe built the core OS, the architecture. Servers and periphery could be used for anything and built by anyone. It really doesn't take that much to make an AI, mostly luck.
It always was weird to me that Finch told Reese about the Machine so soon…until we see the episode with Dillinger. There we see him betray Finch because Finch wouldn’t tell him where he got his information. The same thing is what was making Reese so mad in this scene. Finch always learns from his mistakes, so when his partner really needed to know about the source of the numbers, he told him.
A field operative is used to being kept in the dark, in case they are captured. But Reese doesn't have a reason to stick around, and if he tells people about a "machine", they might not believe it. As for finding a connection between a SS number and a crime, intelligence services have worked on nothing more than a nom de guerre or a suspicion of association. Meanwhile, if the Machine existed, it would have figured out 911 was a product of blowback and plan to prevent future blowback.
Finch told him so soon about the machine because, deep inside his heart, finch blamed himself for john's condition. Watch S02E22 again. He explained to John that he has always blamed himself for bringing john into this mess. So his guilt made him open to John about machine that early.
After re-watching this clip I was struck by how carefully the scene was thought out. 2 men walking quietly walking in an open space surrounded by their fellow citizens. A second or third watch reveals those people, a group of kids playing around with a unicycle, a person with their dog (slightly off screen at that). The entire group of people come across as real people out enjoying their lives and not as a constructed scene. And of course that chilling back shot of Finch and Reese walking in shadow while kids run around them so care-freely. Showing how they would work from the shadows to protect the innocent. This is one reason , among many others, why this this show was so damn good.
I can appreciate how good the show is and I’m a fan but this is what film and tv does lol. It isn’t that hard. Almost every film and tv show does just what you said.
Alll of that yes but one more thing as well. the SCOPE of the machine is also shown to us in part. we get that ever so brief glimpse into just how far the machine sees that chilling line watching us with 10000 eyes aka all the cameras cell phones and laptops, and a million ears every speaker and radio and so on out there
@FoundationSS of Musickkk every show or movie has a ridiculous amount of fake in it. If you look past that, the show itself is amazing. I mean you really have to be narrow minded to let that bother you lol. If you didn't like the show because you just didn't find it good or interesting, that would be fine. Open your mind up a little big guy :)!
This is my all time favourite series, respectfully retired at correct time.. there is no second to this series... absolutely sum total of everything,master piece.
Agreed. The producers made the right decision and ended it on their terms, not let it drag on for too long where the show could have gotten stale, like NCIS which has gone over 20 seasons.
I think the fans wouldn't mind if they got a spin-off telling Elias' story...how he came into power and all. Dude was such an awesomely written character and amazingly played by Enrico
Many have already commented about this, so I'll just say that it was a brilliant series and I was sad to see it end, despite the decent ending. Still get goosebumps in most episodes - the dialogs, the score, the acting... all beautiful!
I thought so too until i discovered the truth about Jim Caviezel. The guy is a massive bigot. He spent most of the later seasons in a balaclava, so the director could swap him out with a stuntman cos he would routinely beat up the other stuntmen for real. he refused to save a gay couple in one of the episodes. the director had to explain to him how firemen have to save people no matter who they are and he repeated it like a mantra to allow him to film the scene. he is also a complete racist. so sad. knowing this it ruined the show for me. I can never watch it again.
@@JindorekI feel sorry for you if you can’t disconnect one of the actor’s real-life behavior from an entire tv show production, especially one as good & unique as this one.
@@JindorekAnd where do you get your information from? That's a huge accusation that needs substantial evidence to back it up. You don't just assume and say things buddy even with freedom of speech, so irresponsibly like a ludicrous child.
Loved the show! It had so much potential to go on for so much longer then it did. The writing started to get a little silly partway through when I guess they really needed to start wrapping it up and they ultimately rushed the viewers towards the ending. They still managed to tie up as many loose ends as possible and make the ending very very climatic. Hard to believe this show is 12 years old but I still have short clips playing through my mind in a montage when im daydreaming.
This series is more relevant today than it was when first released. Big Brother lurks in the covert shadows of society now. Brilliant writing and characterizations on this series.
I remember reading quote from one of the producers saying that the pace of AI development was rapidly advancing and that what they wrote as fiction was becoming reality.
This was such an amazing show with an Epic ending.. I'm about to re watch the series again.. I don't know if I can do it. This show was so emotionally investing knowing John's and Harold's story and the other's... The ending.. I will always rank the ending of this show in my top 10 of endings..
But where can you re watch this series? It was the best tv series. I can't find where they re-run it. UA-cam 's selling it and wants us to buy. I check on yt, they sell season 1 for $24.99
@@CL-mp4vn Yeah, sorry.. I have it myself, but it doesn't look like any streaming service has picked it up. You should write an email to which one you use and see if they will.
At 0:30 to 0:35. Reese's tone made Finch tell the "truth" of the Machine in light of Dillinger (Episode RAM). He also was in the dark of how Finch gets the SSNs. And more importantly, what significance is it?
I love this show idea of using a system that can tell weather or not a human life is in danger and predicts the day they will die, but not where or when it will happen an needing someone who is highly skilled at killing and covert ops to handle that parts makes it all the more thrilling.
Minor correction: When the Machine predicts a crime, it knows the when and where within a reasonable degree of certainty. After all, when Finch says 'It sees everything', that's not hyperbole. The Machine simply won't or can't tell anyone. It will simply knock over the first domino needed to address the threat.
Actually Finch purposely made it that way, he put huge restricting on it to prevent it from becoming too powerful and from being abused. It's purposely made to give the bare minimum amount of information to stop the situation and nothing more.
In a way the limited information is the best. Finch said that a human would rather make the choice to decide someone's fate, considering a machine cannot understand the intricacies of the human psyche. A machine considers lethal action against a group of people which it considers a threat as per its programming. But a soldier or a person behind the control of a weapon that can do the above, has the option and the emotions necessary to make a decision that he may or may not have to live with. The fundamental aspect and tradeoff of the greater good is that it don't include people you're close to, something Finch found out the hard way. Which is why he wanted to make a difference and help the little guy as well.
This scene right here. This was when I realised, I would love this show. The issues raised by PoI are even more relevant (pun not intended) today. Its timeless.
haven't seen this series, and this is the first clip I've watched..... immediately brought to mind scenes from Copolla's The Conversation.... 4 decades apart but similar mise-en-scène.... as with many aspects of 21st century life, only the scale has changed. in between, was Enemy of the State.
The Conversation was very good. I liked several others like Blowout, and Three Days Of The Condor. Regular, routine, average men just doing their job and don't know something innocuous they wrote or repeated started the storm. The Name Of The Rose, Marathon Man; there are many others but Three Days Of The Condor is probably my favourite.
At 2:43 we see the caption incorrectly read “listening with a million years”, until the zoom in a moment later when it correctly says “ears”. Possibly just a typo in the VFX shot, but interesting canon that given the amount of data being processed by the machine there could be a delay until the LLM decides to correct a misheard word to “ears” based on likely sentence structure and context.
I dont think it is a typo. In the first shot, it reads and marks it yellow, probably indicating that it does not fit. The ears is part is normal white, it is training as it gets more data, possibly correcting what it can hear and using the words correctly
I don't know if I'm alone in this, but when Finch described The Machine as just a machine, and not an AI, that's what I took it as. I was blown away when I realized that it was an actual AI, and stunned at how well it was developed (and a little terrified). But rewatching this scene, I think I should have known it was an AI from the beginning. What else could truly understand all that information?
@@lancer525 To evaluate a threat, the Machine very much has to understand it. I've made sarcastic threats of violence to my friends, all the time. If the Machine didn't understand that was just me mouthing off, it would be returning false positives by the millions. Humans have always had contradictions, after all. As they explained when they began to introduce Samaritan, it wouldn't be able to see any threats unless it understood what it was looking at.
honestly i’m not sure how you couldn’t interpret this as AI. any machine that makes predictions is a form of AI, especially ones that predict actions as complex as human behavior.
@@bruceturnbull4219 I think you misunderstand. I'm not saying that The Machine doesn't qualify as AI, I'm simply saying that I should have realized that from the beginning.
What pisses me off is when the show was on in it's first season I was wondering why it seemed that no one I knew was watching it. Plus I wasn't hearing or seeing nothing on TV about it. No fanfare, no excitement, nothing. So I watched this incredible show about AI every week and couldn't share it with anybody. Little did I know years later when the show was off the air did it start to catch on. This show confirmed for some of us who were being called "conspiracy theorist" the obvious. That Big Brother was listening. Even before Edward Snowden dropped his bomb to the world. This show was so far ahead of its time. Mad props to the writers and all the actors. And the music was the sh*t.
I would have to disagree, in my opinion the latter seasons of "Person of Interest" are better than the first couple because there's a shift from an episodic format to a serialized narrative. Initially, each episode focused on a new "Person of Interest", which was engaging (still fantastic) but somewhat repetitive. However, the show's transition to an ongoing storyline and the intense cat-and-mouse game between the two AIs, Samaritan and The Machine, elevated the series to a new level.
But, according to canon, tracking boxes in The Machine’s facial recognition have significance. White is standard. Yellow means the subject is aware of The Machine. For example, when Reese tells Fusco about the machine, his tracking box flips white to yellow. When we FIRST see Reese as a homeless bum on the subway, his tracking box is already yellow, while everyone else is white. This indicates that Reese already knew about The Machine, or at least had knowledge above the average citizen, especially the thugs that were getting ready to rob him.
Been a while since I saw the show but if I remember correctly he was aware of the machine before being hired. Without too much spoilers, his previous employment related highly to the machine and his last job directly involved the machine, hence his unemployment. Though he didn't know it's specifics he had some knowledge about "Intelligence" (Whatever the Govt calls the machine) and was the one to clean up the mess from Finch's last employee.
@@slashplane I’m rewatching the show now. Interestingly, in the season 1 finale, we’re introduced to the current POI, Caroline Turing (played by Amy Acker), her tracking box is yellow, even before she’s revealed as Root. And Sameen Shaw takes essentially the same path to Finch as Reese, that of government assassin tasked with the “Relevant” numbers who gets burned by Control and Special Counsul. But HER tracking box is white. Also notice how immediately after Stanton plants the virus in the network to root out and disable the Machine, the surveillance camera views start glitching, even months before the system crashes. It’s the little subtleties that make the show so great.
@@bobcole612 Wasn't that because Root had set up an elaborate scheme posing as Caroline Turing to confirm what she was already aware of and to blow it open a bit and find out more and who was associated with it, in her "Root" way of doing things? Though you'd think since the machine knew Turing was actually Root (since the yellow box) and therefore "aware" it'd have stopped the confusion and not have let Harold walk into the trap where his former govt contact Alicia Corwin holds him at gunpoint, before Root then shoots her and takes her place holding Harold at gunpoint! Though the machine knows EVERYTHING. Maybe it KNEW that Root was 100% with the idea of "Team Machine" and knew she'd make a valuable asset so deemed it a worthy risk!?
That is because the machine saw Reese as an asset to Finch; Reese made Fusco an asset by telling him about the machine. Until that point, Fusco was only an asset to Reese.
The box on Reese being Yellow from the outset... Might have been carryover from his last government job. He, like Kara Stanton, were operating as assets for the machine... only on the Relevant side of the list. Finch was working the "Non-Relevant" list. To the machine... it's a job transfer.
I only watched some episodes on tv during the years, but it always felt one of the most intriguing series, with its many layers of conspiracy, action, technology, ethical choices, etc. I definitely must find it on some streaming service and watch it seriously.
Finch got John and Root killed because he just couldn't allow his creation the chance to be all that it could be, he failed to trust the very child that he taught. This was a sad tale with an ending that did not have to be.
I love this show. Very, very much wish I'd watched it when it was on TV. If you're looking for a fun show with high stakes, a diverse cast of likeable characters, fun stories, and no blatant intersectional politics this show is a good choice. Person of Interest (2011)
If you watch the whole show, especially the third season, you understand this scene more. The Guy who worked for Finch before Reese got in a Situation where got killed because he didn’t know where Finch got his Information from. So when finch started to work with Reese he didn’t want to make the same mistake again. So that’s why he introduced the machine to him at the beginning. 😊
It's scary when you think a show like this. Would it actually turned out to predict reality how every additional world things? Essentially monitor closely tracked crazy
With the advances we have today in machine learning predictable models, voice to text, language models and image processing analysis... this doesn't sound so sci fi anymore
Watch a couple of videos about AGI or ASI and you'll see how right you are. Even now LLMs are introducing multimodality so really we are in fact already there.
It wasn't THAT far-fetched sci-fi back then either. It was data analysts who had to connect the dots aided by computers sifting thru all the data. Now AI and algorithms are doing most of the legwork.
Just worked out its the wizard of Oz. Reese is tin man, Lionel is cowardly lion, Shaw is scarecrow, Carter is good fairy, hook is wicked witch of the west, Finch ii Dorothy, machine is the wizard hiding behind the curtains.
2:17 and 3:38 , guy two to the left of Reese in the first point and right behind Reese in the second, I swear are the same guy. Extras, man.🤦♂️ I only noticed him the first point because he looked like a fed and looked like he was taking an unusual interest in our two lead heroes. I had thought maybe he was working for Finch but I remembered Finch seems to be a cheap ass and doesn’t trust anybody and definitely would not hire anyone to protect him even if he was going to start talking to Reese for the first time, except this wasn’t the first time as Reese wasn’t a homeless guy then.
@CL-mp4vn no but most people already own prime for Amazon shipping prime video is just a bonus also its on Google TV app gives you the option for the app Freevee which is amazon prime free with ads essentially
This was the last and best series I watched start to finish. I liked it so much, I bought it on DVD. Once a year, I go on a binge for a week or two. I still love this show! It is a harbinger of what's coming, but I don't think we have a Mr Finch watching out for us. The AI that's coming is NOT the benevolent "machine" we see here. It has already shown itself to be quite Malicious. They're building "Skynet" (The Terminator). _They know it, but they won't STOP._ I would say the very definition of a "Mad Scientist" is someone who knows they are building the very machine that will destroy Humanity, and builds it anyway. Such Hubris! Do these people know they won't be spared? Or do they just not care?
damn. I watched this show 2 years back. After rewatching some clips on YT, I seem to realize I wasn't mature enough back then. They hit different now. Have to rewatch this show.
The interesting thing is, the machine is global, but finch feels helping the irrelevant list from just a small region is enough. Sorry for the rest of the worlds irrelevant lol
well what else can he do? it's not like he has a global network of trusted ex-government agents to help him like he does in new york. it's the only place finch and the machine can save people at.
in the final season, they introduce a team that handles the irrelevants of washington d.c., with the implication that the machine started forming other teams after it freed itself
At some point it was shown that Reese wasn't the first helper Finch had. Finch had to carefully choose each partner he was working with. And he wanted to do that personally, so it was kept local to NYC.
On the one hand the relevant list and those who do act on it are global. Later seasons show the machine began to recruit new teams to work in other cities… possibly as spin-off tv shows. I’d love to see a show taking place after the events of the last season filling someone getting recruited into the machines program.
The " machine" being the Ark of the Covenant of God Samuel chapter 5 Ezekiel 18 is heavy.. and the relationship to this and that .... I found them without a shepherd and with every kind of wickedness and evil practice in the midst of the all and they knew not that he was there for his purpose of his holiness. It hurts to learn somethings
Person of Interest is a series that clearly shows human misery and what happens in a world where men allow themselves to be controlled by a Goddess in the form of a machine. Corruption, crime, lack of Faith, Hope and Love are exactly the results of a world without God.
They film every scene as if they're meeting secretly and aren't supposed to know each other. They look off into the distance, don't look each other in the eye. They stand around in public pretending they've never met. None of this is convenient if you're running an undercover operation of any kind. FFS meet at some predetermined location, a house, an apartment, a cabin in the woods. This is all so silly. I can't take this Cavizel guy seriously anyways, he's a jesus freak. Nothing he does from now on will top his jesus is coming BS. I even liked his role in the thin red line, but now, well he's flipped his twig.
yeah he is a class A nutter. massive racist and bigot. they made him wear belaclavas in later episodes so they could swap him out with stuntmen cos he would routinely beat them up for real. knowing what he is like has ruined the show for me.
*_"I offered you a job, Mr. Reese. I never said it'd be easy."_* Brilliant line in an even more brilliant series.
And at this point Mr. Reese handed in his 2 Weeks noticed and everyone lived happily ever after
mysteries
0:43 "You were in a hotel in Mexico."
I love Reese's reaction to this. A mixture of disbelief Finch knows this, and annoyance.
The musical theme is just so spot on. "I built it", getting goosebumps everytime!
Probably the most overused film trope ever. It probably took a vast team to build it, but no, it was him who single-handedly built it.
@@Brakvash Well to be fair he also had some help from Nathan Ingram. ^^
ramin djawadi Is an amazing composer. He did game of thrones as well as Westworld and several others
@@BrakvashHe built the core OS, the architecture. Servers and periphery could be used for anything and built by anyone.
It really doesn't take that much to make an AI, mostly luck.
It always was weird to me that Finch told Reese about the Machine so soon…until we see the episode with Dillinger. There we see him betray Finch because Finch wouldn’t tell him where he got his information. The same thing is what was making Reese so mad in this scene. Finch always learns from his mistakes, so when his partner really needed to know about the source of the numbers, he told him.
He is still "A private person" not really getting close to anyone. Not really telling anyone about anything important. Not even to "The Machine"
Could’ve been a pilot episode, reveal the whole idea of the series in the first ep
A field operative is used to being kept in the dark, in case they are captured. But Reese doesn't have a reason to stick around, and if he tells people about a "machine", they might not believe it. As for finding a connection between a SS number and a crime, intelligence services have worked on nothing more than a nom de guerre or a suspicion of association.
Meanwhile, if the Machine existed, it would have figured out 911 was a product of blowback and plan to prevent future blowback.
Not really.
It isn't like anyone except Finch could work the machine out.
Reese was the hammer
Finch was the scalpel
Finch told him so soon about the machine because, deep inside his heart, finch blamed himself for john's condition. Watch S02E22 again. He explained to John that he has always blamed himself for bringing john into this mess. So his guilt made him open to John about machine that early.
This was a FANTASTIC SHOW that I wish more people would talk about
deeply phylosophical, really emotional show. it can question an individual to really profound and utter pieces of himself. Made a good impact on me .
Like too many series, for me it went downhill later as they made it too dramatic and for me less believable. Before that it was brilliant.
@@suewashere Last series was very disjointed
After re-watching this clip I was struck by how carefully the scene was thought out. 2 men walking quietly walking in an open space surrounded by their fellow citizens. A second or third watch reveals those people, a group of kids playing around with a unicycle, a person with their dog (slightly off screen at that). The entire group of people come across as real people out enjoying their lives and not as a constructed scene. And of course that chilling back shot of Finch and Reese walking in shadow while kids run around them so care-freely. Showing how they would work from the shadows to protect the innocent. This is one reason , among many others, why this this show was so damn good.
I can appreciate how good the show is and I’m a fan but this is what film and tv does lol. It isn’t that hard. Almost every film and tv show does just what you said.
Alll of that yes but one more thing as well. the SCOPE of the machine is also shown to us in part. we get that ever so brief glimpse into just how far the machine sees that chilling line watching us with 10000 eyes aka all the cameras cell phones and laptops, and a million ears every speaker and radio and so on out there
And the reason I'm starting tonight to watch it all over again. :) My favourite tv show ever.
@FoundationSS of Musickkk she's 5'3".
@FoundationSS of Musickkk every show or movie has a ridiculous amount of fake in it. If you look past that, the show itself is amazing. I mean you really have to be narrow minded to let that bother you lol.
If you didn't like the show because you just didn't find it good or interesting, that would be fine.
Open your mind up a little big guy :)!
This is my all time favourite series, respectfully retired at correct time.. there is no second to this series... absolutely sum total of everything,master piece.
Agreed. The producers made the right decision and ended it on their terms, not let it drag on for too long where the show could have gotten stale, like NCIS which has gone over 20 seasons.
I think the fans wouldn't mind if they got a spin-off telling Elias' story...how he came into power and all. Dude was such an awesomely written character and amazingly played by Enrico
Many have already commented about this, so I'll just say that it was a brilliant series and I was sad to see it end, despite the decent ending. Still get goosebumps in most episodes - the dialogs, the score, the acting... all beautiful!
goosebumps, wonderful series, wonderful actors, I miss this show so much
I thought so too until i discovered the truth about Jim Caviezel. The guy is a massive bigot. He spent most of the later seasons in a balaclava, so the director could swap him out with a stuntman cos he would routinely beat up the other stuntmen for real. he refused to save a gay couple in one of the episodes. the director had to explain to him how firemen have to save people no matter who they are and he repeated it like a mantra to allow him to film the scene. he is also a complete racist. so sad. knowing this it ruined the show for me. I can never watch it again.
@@JindorekI feel sorry for you if you can’t disconnect one of the actor’s real-life behavior from an entire tv show production, especially one as good & unique as this one.
@@JindorekAnd where do you get your information from? That's a huge accusation that needs substantial evidence to back it up. You don't just assume and say things buddy even with freedom of speech, so irresponsibly like a ludicrous child.
Man, Jim caviezel and Michael Emerson are both on a legendary level of acting in this show 🗿
Finch saying, "I built it" always gets me. That's the person you should watch out for. Anyone that says "I built it"
But he did.
@@melhupby He's not denying it or suggesting anyone makes that claim falsely
Especially if they actually did.
Loved the show! It had so much potential to go on for so much longer then it did.
The writing started to get a little silly partway through when I guess they really needed to start wrapping it up and they ultimately rushed the viewers towards the ending. They still managed to tie up as many loose ends as possible and make the ending very very climatic.
Hard to believe this show is 12 years old but I still have short clips playing through my mind in a montage when im daydreaming.
I offered you a job, never said it would be easy
I said I would tell you the truth, never said you will like it.
Too good.
Still love this show. Will be rewatching it soon. Shame no one ever saw the premises potential for a game. Watch Dogs came close.
The point of the concept is lost when you think a game on this would be good
@@talkshow69 Uncreative opinion.
This series is more relevant today than it was when first released. Big Brother lurks in the covert shadows of society now. Brilliant writing and characterizations on this series.
Well that's why they stopped it
I remember reading quote from one of the producers saying that the pace of AI development was rapidly advancing and that what they wrote as fiction was becoming reality.
I agree - ahead of its time!
This was such an amazing show with an Epic ending.. I'm about to re watch the series again.. I don't know if I can do it. This show was so emotionally investing knowing John's and Harold's story and the other's... The ending.. I will always rank the ending of this show in my top 10 of endings..
But where can you re watch this series?
It was the best tv series. I can't find where they re-run it.
UA-cam 's selling it and wants us to buy.
I check on yt, they sell season 1 for $24.99
@@CL-mp4vn Yeah, sorry.. I have it myself, but it doesn't look like any streaming service has picked it up. You should write an email to which one you use and see if they will.
@@CL-mp4vn Are you brain damaged? What are you on about?
It's on amazon prime I'm rewatching it now - well not right now😁😁
After watching this series 10 years ago I knew the world be crazy in future
At 0:30 to 0:35. Reese's tone made Finch tell the "truth" of the Machine in light of Dillinger (Episode RAM). He also was in the dark of how Finch gets the SSNs. And more importantly, what significance is it?
This was such a great show and such a cool concept.
This was a great show. Excellent show. I watched the whole 100 party 3 times.
I loved all the series. Sorely missed.
I love this show idea of using a system that can tell weather or not a human life is in danger and predicts the day they will die, but not where or when it will happen an needing someone who is highly skilled at killing and covert ops to handle that parts makes it all the more thrilling.
Minor correction:
When the Machine predicts a crime, it knows the when and where within a reasonable degree of certainty.
After all, when Finch says 'It sees everything', that's not hyperbole.
The Machine simply won't or can't tell anyone. It will simply knock over the first domino needed to address the threat.
Actually Finch purposely made it that way, he put huge restricting on it to prevent it from becoming too powerful and from being abused. It's purposely made to give the bare minimum amount of information to stop the situation and nothing more.
In a way the limited information is the best. Finch said that a human would rather make the choice to decide someone's fate, considering a machine cannot understand the intricacies of the human psyche. A machine considers lethal action against a group of people which it considers a threat as per its programming. But a soldier or a person behind the control of a weapon that can do the above, has the option and the emotions necessary to make a decision that he may or may not have to live with.
The fundamental aspect and tradeoff of the greater good is that it don't include people you're close to, something Finch found out the hard way. Which is why he wanted to make a difference and help the little guy as well.
Watching this scene now, it's funny how this series was showing us the power of AI without us knowing😂
Great show.. highly recommended👍
Such an amazing show
Love the channel name. Wish the machine was as exposed as people are.
This scene right here. This was when I realised, I would love this show. The issues raised by PoI are even more relevant (pun not intended) today. Its timeless.
John's like "wtf" 😂😂😂😂
haven't seen this series, and this is the first clip I've watched..... immediately brought to mind scenes from Copolla's The Conversation.... 4 decades apart but similar mise-en-scène.... as with many aspects of 21st century life, only the scale has changed. in between, was Enemy of the State.
Its worth watching, really good..
The Conversation was very good. I liked several others like Blowout, and Three Days Of The Condor. Regular, routine, average men just doing their job and don't know something innocuous they wrote or repeated started the storm. The Name Of The Rose, Marathon Man; there are many others but Three Days Of The Condor is probably my favourite.
@@charlieross-BRM in total agreement re: Three Days....
At 2:43 we see the caption incorrectly read “listening with a million years”, until the zoom in a moment later when it correctly says “ears”. Possibly just a typo in the VFX shot, but interesting canon that given the amount of data being processed by the machine there could be a delay until the LLM decides to correct a misheard word to “ears” based on likely sentence structure and context.
I dont think it is a typo. In the first shot, it reads and marks it yellow, probably indicating that it does not fit. The ears is part is normal white, it is training as it gets more data, possibly correcting what it can hear and using the words correctly
I don't know if I'm alone in this, but when Finch described The Machine as just a machine, and not an AI, that's what I took it as. I was blown away when I realized that it was an actual AI, and stunned at how well it was developed (and a little terrified).
But rewatching this scene, I think I should have known it was an AI from the beginning. What else could truly understand all that information?
It doesn't have to understand it. All it has to do is evaluate it.
@@lancer525 To evaluate a threat, the Machine very much has to understand it.
I've made sarcastic threats of violence to my friends, all the time. If the Machine didn't understand that was just me mouthing off, it would be returning false positives by the millions.
Humans have always had contradictions, after all.
As they explained when they began to introduce Samaritan, it wouldn't be able to see any threats unless it understood what it was looking at.
honestly i’m not sure how you couldn’t interpret this as AI. any machine that makes predictions is a form of AI, especially ones that predict actions as complex as human behavior.
@@bruceturnbull4219 I think you misunderstand. I'm not saying that The Machine doesn't qualify as AI, I'm simply saying that I should have realized that from the beginning.
Naah finch just wrote some if else’s here and there
What pisses me off is when the show was on in it's first season I was wondering why it seemed that no one I knew was watching it. Plus I wasn't hearing or seeing nothing on TV about it. No fanfare, no excitement, nothing. So I watched this incredible show about AI every week and couldn't share it with anybody. Little did I know years later when the show was off the air did it start to catch on. This show confirmed for some of us who were being called "conspiracy theorist" the obvious. That Big Brother was listening. Even before Edward Snowden dropped his bomb to the world. This show was so far ahead of its time. Mad props to the writers and all the actors. And the music was the sh*t.
The first 2 seasons were the best and most creative
I would have to disagree, in my opinion the latter seasons of "Person of Interest" are better than the first couple because there's a shift from an episodic format to a serialized narrative. Initially, each episode focused on a new "Person of Interest", which was engaging (still fantastic) but somewhat repetitive. However, the show's transition to an ongoing storyline and the intense cat-and-mouse game between the two AIs, Samaritan and The Machine, elevated the series to a new level.
But, according to canon, tracking boxes in The Machine’s facial recognition have significance. White is standard. Yellow means the subject is aware of The Machine. For example, when Reese tells Fusco about the machine, his tracking box flips white to yellow. When we FIRST see Reese as a homeless bum on the subway, his tracking box is already yellow, while everyone else is white. This indicates that Reese already knew about The Machine, or at least had knowledge above the average citizen, especially the thugs that were getting ready to rob him.
Been a while since I saw the show but if I remember correctly he was aware of the machine before being hired.
Without too much spoilers, his previous employment related highly to the machine and his last job directly involved the machine, hence his unemployment. Though he didn't know it's specifics he had some knowledge about "Intelligence" (Whatever the Govt calls the machine) and was the one to clean up the mess from Finch's last employee.
@@slashplane I’m rewatching the show now. Interestingly, in the season 1 finale, we’re introduced to the current POI, Caroline Turing (played by Amy Acker), her tracking box is yellow, even before she’s revealed as Root. And Sameen Shaw takes essentially the same path to Finch as Reese, that of government assassin tasked with the “Relevant” numbers who gets burned by Control and Special Counsul. But HER tracking box is white. Also notice how immediately after Stanton plants the virus in the network to root out and disable the Machine, the surveillance camera views start glitching, even months before the system crashes. It’s the little subtleties that make the show so great.
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Wasn't that because Root had set up an elaborate scheme posing as Caroline Turing to confirm what she was already aware of and to blow it open a bit and find out more and who was associated with it, in her "Root" way of doing things?
Though you'd think since the machine knew Turing was actually Root (since the yellow box) and therefore "aware" it'd have stopped the confusion and not have let Harold walk into the trap where his former govt contact Alicia Corwin holds him at gunpoint, before Root then shoots her and takes her place holding Harold at gunpoint!
Though the machine knows EVERYTHING. Maybe it KNEW that Root was 100% with the idea of "Team Machine" and knew she'd make a valuable asset so deemed it a worthy risk!?
That is because the machine saw Reese as an asset to Finch; Reese made Fusco an asset by telling him about the machine. Until that point, Fusco was only an asset to Reese.
The box on Reese being Yellow from the outset...
Might have been carryover from his last government job.
He, like Kara Stanton, were operating as assets for the machine... only on the Relevant side of the list.
Finch was working the "Non-Relevant" list.
To the machine... it's a job transfer.
I only watched some episodes on tv during the years, but it always felt one of the most intriguing series, with its many layers of conspiracy, action, technology, ethical choices, etc. I definitely must find it on some streaming service and watch it seriously.
Amazon Streaming
You can always use torrents to download the entire show
Finch got John and Root killed because he just couldn't allow his creation the chance to be all that it could be, he failed to trust the very child that he taught. This was a sad tale with an ending that did not have to be.
I love this show. Very, very much wish I'd watched it when it was on TV. If you're looking for a fun show with high stakes, a diverse cast of likeable characters, fun stories, and no blatant intersectional politics this show is a good choice.
Person of Interest (2011)
If you watch the whole show, especially the third season, you understand this scene more. The Guy who worked for Finch before Reese got in a Situation where got killed because he didn’t know where Finch got his Information from. So when finch started to work with Reese he didn’t want to make the same mistake again. So that’s why he introduced the machine to him at the beginning. 😊
I bought the series' dvds..
Me too. Can’t wait to rewatch it
I love how series from 13 years ago basically predicted neural networks with uninterpretable results
Perfect dialogue.
POI: where the government used the patriot act to keep you safe, not snoop on ur porn history
Keep "you" safe. Well surely there were other agendas.
Lol what world is that
I was always slightly annoyed that they cut out Finch saying “Good with computers, remember” I think it worked well
So strange it's on the verge of coming true
Harold can you play more parts your amazing cheers
It's scary when you think a show like this. Would it actually turned out to predict reality how every additional world things? Essentially monitor closely tracked crazy
Project looking glass...in your face...
They Always Have To Tell You The Truth
With the advances we have today in machine learning predictable models, voice to text, language models and image processing analysis... this doesn't sound so sci fi anymore
Watch a couple of videos about AGI or ASI and you'll see how right you are. Even now LLMs are introducing multimodality so really we are in fact already there.
And the possibility of AI fighting with one another like Samaritan in this show...
@@portman8909 with different nation states controlling them with their own agendas that is an inevitably
It wasn't THAT far-fetched sci-fi back then either. It was data analysts who had to connect the dots aided by computers sifting thru all the data. Now AI and algorithms are doing most of the legwork.
There's a 1hr long version of this episode...
Just worked out its the wizard of Oz.
Reese is tin man, Lionel is cowardly lion, Shaw is scarecrow, Carter is good fairy, hook is wicked witch of the west, Finch ii Dorothy, machine is the wizard hiding behind the curtains.
Your not wrong , damnnn
Reese " Just to access the irrevelant list." 3:03. Can't believe they left that mispronunciation in of Irrelevant.
I miss this show
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2:17 and 3:38 , guy two to the left of Reese in the first point and right behind Reese in the second, I swear are the same guy. Extras, man.🤦♂️ I only noticed him the first point because he looked like a fed and looked like he was taking an unusual interest in our two lead heroes. I had thought maybe he was working for Finch but I remembered Finch seems to be a cheap ass and doesn’t trust anybody and definitely would not hire anyone to protect him even if he was going to start talking to Reese for the first time, except this wasn’t the first time as Reese wasn’t a homeless guy then.
Reese is John wick
John Wick wishes
No, Reese is even better.
Reese is way better
@@theresa4863 to bad away from acting he's nuts!
@@frankc.9345 he isn't crazy, that's your opinion.
This has some deleted scene in it.
Trust your instincts
Looks like the writers of the new mission impossible movie watched this series
Those bastards...Writers are on strike, MI probably used AI for their script
Yep, and the Gods Eye in Fast and Furious 9 , also Batman Begins had something similar and so did Terminator, now it’s a reality
@@RealBadGaming52 Dark Knight not Batman Begins it is to track The Joker
They took that program down!
This series are the best tv series.
They don't rerun it because they want to sell
UA-cam doesn't have it for free and want people to buy.
They don’t show it because it’s become reality
Bro it's free with ads on some sites like prime video
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So, is prime video free ? Lol 😄
@CL-mp4vn no but most people already own prime for Amazon shipping prime video is just a bonus also its on Google TV app gives you the option for the app Freevee which is amazon prime free with ads essentially
Based. Get the blu-rays before they're taken off shelves!@@RealBadGaming52
When AGI is born and it gets to work on turning into ASI, it'll spread it's code everywhere just like The Machine
Bc I actually believe it's before cameras now
i need to get this entire series on dvd
I ll run this...
“Person of Interest “ was a well directed, produced and great acting. It would be great if it came back. It’s better than “Alias” although slightly.
It's likely no longer fiction either.
Nowadays, it would be overdone to not scare people into believing it is real life (which it likely is).
The plot is entirely too believable
This was the last and best series I watched start to finish. I liked it so much, I bought it on DVD. Once a year, I go on a binge for a week or two. I still love this show! It is a harbinger of what's coming, but I don't think we have a Mr Finch watching out for us.
The AI that's coming is NOT the benevolent "machine" we see here. It has already shown itself to be quite Malicious. They're building "Skynet" (The Terminator). _They know it, but they won't STOP._ I would say the very definition of a "Mad Scientist" is someone who knows they are building the very machine that will destroy Humanity, and builds it anyway. Such Hubris! Do these people know they won't be spared? Or do they just not care?
I wish they did the spin off with the previous numbers they helped before that helped in the presidential Assassination episode.
damn.
I watched this show 2 years back. After rewatching some clips on YT, I seem to realize I wasn't mature enough back then.
They hit different now.
Have to rewatch this show.
The interesting thing is, the machine is global, but finch feels helping the irrelevant list from just a small region is enough. Sorry for the rest of the worlds irrelevant lol
well what else can he do? it's not like he has a global network of trusted ex-government agents to help him like he does in new york. it's the only place finch and the machine can save people at.
in the final season, they introduce a team that handles the irrelevants of washington d.c., with the implication that the machine started forming other teams after it freed itself
i mean, NY is where Finch lives.... what else could he do? the machine ended up making its own teams in different places anyways
At some point it was shown that Reese wasn't the first helper Finch had.
Finch had to carefully choose each partner he was working with. And he wanted to do that personally, so it was kept local to NYC.
On the one hand the relevant list and those who do act on it are global.
Later seasons show the machine began to recruit new teams to work in other cities… possibly as spin-off tv shows. I’d love to see a show taking place after the events of the last season filling someone getting recruited into the machines program.
POI Was so good until it became the Shah and root show.
Well just watch Snowden unless people won't accept fact is stranger than fiction.
The " machine" being the Ark of the Covenant of God Samuel chapter 5 Ezekiel 18 is heavy.. and the relationship to this and that .... I found them without a shepherd and with every kind of wickedness and evil practice in the midst of the all and they knew not that he was there for his purpose of his holiness. It hurts to learn somethings
Person of Interest is a series that clearly shows human misery and what happens in a world where men allow themselves to be controlled by a Goddess in the form of a machine. Corruption, crime, lack of Faith, Hope and Love are exactly the results of a world without God.
Joke's on them, once social security goes away there won't be any social security numbers to report out.
What?
I ignore the last season because otherwise a good show
Security theatre
I love PoI. I've watched it all 3 or 4 times now, but, damn!, why did Jim Caviezel have to be a RWNJ?! Sigh
When you talk to the wrong people and cant sift the lies from facts.
We carry Big Brother in our collective pocket every day. Just consider one of these Jesus freaks running the justice Department.
Great show...to bad some of the additional characters were poorly written in the later seasons
Snowden.
Free Palestine
They film every scene as if they're meeting secretly and aren't supposed to know each other. They look off into the distance, don't look each other in the eye. They stand around in public pretending they've never met. None of this is convenient if you're running an undercover operation of any kind. FFS meet at some predetermined location, a house, an apartment, a cabin in the woods.
This is all so silly. I can't take this Cavizel guy seriously anyways, he's a jesus freak. Nothing he does from now on will top his jesus is coming BS. I even liked his role in the thin red line, but now, well he's flipped his twig.
yeah he is a class A nutter. massive racist and bigot. they made him wear belaclavas in later episodes so they could swap him out with stuntmen cos he would routinely beat them up for real. knowing what he is like has ruined the show for me.
you need to drop the hate my guy
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