I think that was a product of less hot reads and RB routes out if the backfield…if they aren’t running those or practicing those it makes it tough…low sample size on those…and NS emphasizes creating plays above 20+ yards…
@@waynecsmith5145 absolutely he tends to see the field better looking downfield compared to the traffic in front of him .. which make it hard for him to read
Coach again you knock it out the park excellent job and yes please breakdown especially when these cowturds say Kellen is going to ruin our team I don’t believe it
I appreciate it, and part of the reason we’re hearing cowboys fans say this is because they know they’re in trouble if Kellen makes a seriously deep playoff run with Jalen. Especially if the offense is clicking in those games. They know it would end the entire Kellen Moore was the problem debate, and they would have to change course on the defensive superiority argument they keep presenting. Something would have to give, and they will likely ignore the most obvious answer.
The QB I believe balanced the combination of timing throws in the pocket and utilizing their scrabbling ability was Steve Young. Donovan McNabb also did a great job of combining those attributes as well.
What’s up MistaSandMan! That’s a pretty good read into the QBs, and the systems they played in. The funny thing is, the QB that Jalen Hurts reminds me the most of, I rarely hear him discussed, Steve McNair. I think there is a little bit of McNabb and Steve McNair to his game.
Great insight & background on the offense that Jalen Hurts will be operating from 95% new & going against Vic Fangio's defensive schemes Jalen will become a better QB!!
Excellent breakdown.. Really appreciate how you used the coaches history of connecting with each other and how this new system is a combo of 2 radical systems.. Looking forward to seeing more of your breakdowns.. Thanks Again for sharing!!
I remember when CMC was on Peyton and Eli while the eagles were playing literally reading they offense it was so basic. Hurts needed a better offense he just gonna have to adapt to Kellen Moore offense he definitely need preseason reps for sure.
I think that as long as Hurts is willing to work hard through training camp and take some time to work with his guys before training camp starts i think he will be just fine. Of course he and this offense needs to work hard together I think that they need to play in the preseason and as much as possible to build chemistry!!!!! Yes it may take some time but I think they will be fine
What's up Markett! Yeah, it's hard to predict the exact outcome or impact at this point. However, I'm also optimistic that this is really going to come together well, and this offense will be incredibly tough to defend once it hits its stride.
Off topic: I'm getting the impression that Sirianni was the issue in the collapse. This summer Gainwell said during a podcast that it was the culture. Yesterday BG said the collapse was bc of coaches/coaching. Smitty said under Kellen they're able to do things that they weren't "ALLOWED" to do b4. Hurts silence when asked about Sirianni's acceptance of Kellen running the offense... All signs point to Sirianni just being in the building for nothing. He's supposed to be the "culture guy" but if he couldn't resolve the collapse and has been holding the players/offense back, why's he here??
Tbh the players love nick and he hasn't had a season he hasn't made the playoffs lol I'm not ready to give up on him yet when we now the coordinators and position coaches wasn't that good..
Living in the past is such a waste of energy... The COLLAPSE was the ENTIRE TEAM'S FAULT.. They addressed it and they are moving on.. The Drama queens that thrive on the fake news that WIP n the other sports channels push, can't get enough of this shit.. I'm a fan and I watch the games for entertainment Ofc I get upset with players and play calling but there's 22 players on the field and it only takes 1 to change the plays outcome. I played organized sports most of my life and when my team lost or I sucked, I didn't blame the coaches I blame myself.. New season New Team Same Dream GO BIRDS!!!
This conversation is super weird. The Eagles didn't have an offensive system last year. Yes Jalen took a lot of time to throw, but that wasn't because he didn't know who to throw to. That's because Sirianni basically had everybody running God damn go routes every play. Getting the ball out quickly was Not how the eagles offense was designed to operate. I think it is asinine to think that the problem was ever Jalen. Everyone who played the eagles said the offense was a high school offense. That is on the coaches. When he had an actual offense, with Shane, he was excellent.
I think they're trying to get Hurts to stop panicking in the pocket and release the ball on time. I don't think motion will be a good idea. I think it will confuse Hurts more than the Defense.
Every QB is different when it comes to things such as the application of motion, or being under center vs shotgun. The tried and true example being that early on during Tom Brady's career, he liked to be under center. However, Peyton Manning hated being put under center, and he wanted to be in shotgun. So, every QB has the little things about them. Now, when it comes to motion, I can't say for 100%, but I do think that is more of a Nick Sirianni thing than a Jalen Hurts thing. We will know soon enough.
It is going to be interesting because the way I believe is either jalen's going to be really good at it or just the opposite. If you watched his eyes last year jalen's eyes were always downfield first. He always goes down with your first then he'll look at his second option closer. Now what you're asking him to do is look at the short game first and then downfield You know I'm right Steve. 2.5 seconds is a joke when it comes to Jalen and he doesn't have it. He's going to have to change Jalen first get him to stop looking down field. This is making me feel worse than before it really is because you're asking somebody to do something once again he doesn't know how to do.
@@ryancampbell1847 Wym jalen has showed he can make timing throws tho wth lol go back to 2022 under shane or even go over film from multiple different games of this past season I feel like y'all are thinking too much into this when the answer is right in front of you BG clearly said they had coaches in positions they shouldn't have been meaning lb coaches, wr coaches, oc, dc, etc why do you think they cleaned house except for nick. As a eagles fan how are we doubting jalen when he's proven he was one of the most accurate qbs from the pocket
@@sob_meenthank you bud. I just don't like the way he handled himself in the playoffs last year. I think Jalen great. I don't think he's going to be that great under center or in the pocket I believe that's the front office doing that. I don't believe that has anything to do with Jalen. I believe that he is really good out in space He's not good in the pocket and that's pretty obvious. But the thing that I'm most upset about is how he reacted in the playoffs last year. I no the coaches wasn't that good. I said It all last year. But I'm letting it go and see if K Moore does with him. He has everything any QB could ever wish for there's no excuses. I just hope Kelly Moore is the right fit for him. But for real I was venting and I'm done with it I want to see how the season plays out. Go Eagles.
Hey steve it catmando and I be telling people that Jalen is going to have problems with Kellen Moore's offense and loan behold will comes out today 95% of the offensive exchange oh my goodness God bless Jalen hurts He's going to need it. I have not even seen the press conference but I heard people saying that 95% of the offense has changed I didn't think it was going to be that much now I feel worse than I did before. I seen Jalen talking about k Moore offense when he got here and you could tell that Jalen look nervous about it he looks so nervous I thought he was going to throw up I wish I had the video to show you You can tell Jalen is nervous. I hope I'm wrong I really go I hope I eat all my words I really do. They are going to line him up over center He's not going to do well. This is the reason why they always have him in the shotgun because he's not a drop back quarterback but you know this Steve I know you do we'll see
I don't have even 10% of your football knowledge, coach. But it worries me a bit if Hurts can't run this kind of offense because there's no long term future in the NFL by running designed run plays with your QB. Hurts has to become more of a passer and rely less on RPOs and the threat of him running the ball to open the defense.
I mean... OBVI if you're relying on anything, it's a bad thing in the NFL. I wouldn't want it to go away as long as he's sliding and it's not up the middle lol
@@YourBeastRoy I would personally like to see Hurts evolving more into the type of player Wilson was or that Mahomes is. A mobile pocket passer that can make off schedule improvised plays. Kinda like how Vick was for us.
@@Ocean5ix I mean jalen can already do that tho so I'm confused what are we saying? Jalen is very accurate on the run and good at improvising plays I mean he had to do that hald the 2023 season when his oc couldn't defend the blitz
The whole 2.3 seconds jargon nonsense shouldn’t have even been something to come out of these coaches mouths to the public…it s clearly not real in practice and application
It's real in it's practice and application, but the media really misunderstood what coach Nuss was saying. They're treating it as if the vast majority of throws in this scheme are going to be under 2.3/seconds. No way on that one. However, Dak did have a game vs the Giants in 2019 where his time to throw mark was 2.25/seconds. Then, he had a game in 2021 against the Chargers where his time to throw was 2.25/seconds as well. So, in total under Kellen Moore, Dak had 10 games where his time to throw was 2.5/seconds or less. Not all members of the media, but a few seemed to forget that time to throw marks are built off of averages. So, you need to know the total of throws in a game, season, career at a certain time mark. Most analytics comapnies track at 2.6/seconds, above and below. Coach Nuss was saying that most progressions by a QB are completed within 2.3 seconds. However, things will happen on occassion such as a LB falling into a window, and a QB having to hold the ball for an extra few tenths of seconds to allow the WR, TE, or RB to clear that window. The whole best laid plans get spoiled or ruined sometimes. He also referenced simulated pressure. That's what he meant in the interview when he said dropping 8 into coverage on 3rd down. You similate a 6-7 man pressure, but at the snap, you drop 8. That's what the Vikings did to us last year. If you're caught passing on that look, it's tough but not impossible to find a throwing window within 2.3 seconds. So, the staff definitely wants to have built progressions that are fast, and we will see a lot more throws within the 1-10 yard radius, for sure. However, the media misunderstood that anything under 2.5 seconds is incredibly fast. Last season, according to Next Gen Stats, only 5 QBs had time to throw marks under 2.6 seconds. #1 Tua (2.36), #2 Mac (2.46), #3 Trevor Lawrence (2.51), #4 Trevor Siemian (2.53), and #5 Joe Burrow (2.54). They're just making a little too much out of this.
@@TheodoreNicklas nah you the one with the man crush hating on hurts no jalen hurts no sb appearance 3 years starting and 3 playoffs if he couldn’t read a defense he wouldn’t end up in the playoffs your just a certified hater go do something better with your life other than hating on a guy that got way more success then us both put together
Hurts has incredible ability as an athlete but he’s been terrible at reading defenses and his accuracy has been spotty at best… Hurts MUST be able to quickly read defenses and see the field way better than he has so far.
So glad this is the topic… Jalens timing is bad on throw that are not 25 yds or better… he has to recognize the open area quicker on normal passes
Dude... That's so accurate I tried to hit like twice!
I think that was a product of less hot reads and RB routes out if the backfield…if they aren’t running those or practicing those it makes it tough…low sample size on those…and NS emphasizes creating plays above 20+ yards…
@@waynecsmith5145 absolutely he tends to see the field better looking downfield compared to the traffic in front of him .. which make it hard for him to read
Great video, Steve! Information that needs to be spread around the fanbase.
What’s up Robert! Thank you, and Fly🦅Fly!
Coach again you knock it out the park excellent job and yes please breakdown especially when these cowturds say Kellen is going to ruin our team I don’t believe it
I agree with you
I appreciate it, and part of the reason we’re hearing cowboys fans say this is because they know they’re in trouble if Kellen makes a seriously deep playoff run with Jalen. Especially if the offense is clicking in those games. They know it would end the entire Kellen Moore was the problem debate, and they would have to change course on the defensive superiority argument they keep presenting. Something would have to give, and they will likely ignore the most obvious answer.
The QB I believe balanced the combination of timing throws in the pocket and utilizing their scrabbling ability was Steve Young. Donovan McNabb also did a great job of combining those attributes as well.
What’s up MistaSandMan! That’s a pretty good read into the QBs, and the systems they played in. The funny thing is, the QB that Jalen Hurts reminds me the most of, I rarely hear him discussed, Steve McNair. I think there is a little bit of McNabb and Steve McNair to his game.
Great insight & background on the offense that Jalen Hurts will be operating from 95% new & going against Vic Fangio's defensive schemes Jalen will become a better QB!!
Excellent breakdown..
Really appreciate how you used the coaches history of connecting with each other and how this new system is a combo of 2 radical systems..
Looking forward to seeing more of your breakdowns..
Thanks Again for sharing!!
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I remember when CMC was on Peyton and Eli while the eagles were playing literally reading they offense it was so basic. Hurts needed a better offense he just gonna have to adapt to Kellen Moore offense he definitely need preseason reps for sure.
Gate City, you definitely earned your like today. Great stuff!
Much appreciated, and fly🦅fly!
I think that as long as Hurts is willing to work hard through training camp and take some time to work with his guys before training camp starts i think he will be just fine. Of course he and this offense needs to work hard together I think that they need to play in the preseason and as much as possible to build chemistry!!!!! Yes it may take some time but I think they will be fine
What's up Markett! Yeah, it's hard to predict the exact outcome or impact at this point. However, I'm also optimistic that this is really going to come together well, and this offense will be incredibly tough to defend once it hits its stride.
@@CoachHeitter Me also it’s probably gonna take time but as long as he’s willing to keep working he will be just fine
How do you feel about our QB group..Kenny Pickett makes a great QB2 definitely he will do better than Gardner Minshew!!
Off topic: I'm getting the impression that Sirianni was the issue in the collapse.
This summer Gainwell said during a podcast that it was the culture. Yesterday BG said the collapse was bc of coaches/coaching. Smitty said under Kellen they're able to do things that they weren't "ALLOWED" to do b4. Hurts silence when asked about Sirianni's acceptance of Kellen running the offense...
All signs point to Sirianni just being in the building for nothing. He's supposed to be the "culture guy" but if he couldn't resolve the collapse and has been holding the players/offense back, why's he here??
Lol..good try
@@TheodoreNicklas wow, smh
Tbh the players love nick and he hasn't had a season he hasn't made the playoffs lol I'm not ready to give up on him yet when we now the coordinators and position coaches wasn't that good..
Living in the past is such a waste of energy...
The COLLAPSE was the ENTIRE TEAM'S FAULT..
They addressed it and they are moving on..
The Drama queens that thrive on the fake news that WIP n the other sports channels push, can't get enough of this shit..
I'm a fan and I watch the games for entertainment
Ofc I get upset with players and play calling but there's 22 players on the field and it only takes 1 to change the plays outcome.
I played organized sports most of my life and when my team lost or I sucked, I didn't blame the coaches I blame myself..
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This conversation is super weird. The Eagles didn't have an offensive system last year. Yes Jalen took a lot of time to throw, but that wasn't because he didn't know who to throw to. That's because Sirianni basically had everybody running God damn go routes every play. Getting the ball out quickly was Not how the eagles offense was designed to operate. I think it is asinine to think that the problem was ever Jalen.
Everyone who played the eagles said the offense was a high school offense. That is on the coaches. When he had an actual offense, with Shane, he was excellent.
Great video
What's up Nina! Thank you, and Fly🦅Fly!
I think they're trying to get Hurts to stop panicking in the pocket and release the ball on time. I don't think motion will be a good idea. I think it will confuse Hurts more than the Defense.
Every QB is different when it comes to things such as the application of motion, or being under center vs shotgun. The tried and true example being that early on during Tom Brady's career, he liked to be under center. However, Peyton Manning hated being put under center, and he wanted to be in shotgun. So, every QB has the little things about them.
Now, when it comes to motion, I can't say for 100%, but I do think that is more of a Nick Sirianni thing than a Jalen Hurts thing. We will know soon enough.
It is going to be interesting because the way I believe is either jalen's going to be really good at it or just the opposite. If you watched his eyes last year jalen's eyes were always downfield first. He always goes down with your first then he'll look at his second option closer. Now what you're asking him to do is look at the short game first and then downfield You know I'm right Steve. 2.5 seconds is a joke when it comes to Jalen and he doesn't have it. He's going to have to change Jalen first get him to stop looking down field. This is making me feel worse than before it really is because you're asking somebody to do something once again he doesn't know how to do.
Aint gonna lie I'm real nervous about Jalen beein under center and having to make timing throws...
@@ryancampbell1847 Wym jalen has showed he can make timing throws tho wth lol go back to 2022 under shane or even go over film from multiple different games of this past season I feel like y'all are thinking too much into this when the answer is right in front of you BG clearly said they had coaches in positions they shouldn't have been meaning lb coaches, wr coaches, oc, dc, etc why do you think they cleaned house except for nick. As a eagles fan how are we doubting jalen when he's proven he was one of the most accurate qbs from the pocket
@@ryancampbell1847 he is not that guy that why he is always in the shotgun
@sob_meen from the rpo..for one season not to many timing throws bro
@@sob_meenthank you bud. I just don't like the way he handled himself in the playoffs last year. I think Jalen great. I don't think he's going to be that great under center or in the pocket I believe that's the front office doing that. I don't believe that has anything to do with Jalen. I believe that he is really good out in space He's not good in the pocket and that's pretty obvious. But the thing that I'm most upset about is how he reacted in the playoffs last year. I no the coaches wasn't that good. I said It all last year. But I'm letting it go and see if K Moore does with him. He has everything any QB could ever wish for there's no excuses. I just hope Kelly Moore is the right fit for him. But for real I was venting and I'm done with it I want to see how the season plays out. Go Eagles.
Hey steve it catmando and I be telling people that Jalen is going to have problems with Kellen Moore's offense and loan behold will comes out today 95% of the offensive exchange oh my goodness God bless Jalen hurts He's going to need it. I have not even seen the press conference but I heard people saying that 95% of the offense has changed I didn't think it was going to be that much now I feel worse than I did before. I seen Jalen talking about k Moore offense when he got here and you could tell that Jalen look nervous about it he looks so nervous I thought he was going to throw up I wish I had the video to show you You can tell Jalen is nervous. I hope I'm wrong I really go I hope I eat all my words I really do. They are going to line him up over center He's not going to do well. This is the reason why they always have him in the shotgun because he's not a drop back quarterback but you know this Steve I know you do we'll see
I don't have even 10% of your football knowledge, coach. But it worries me a bit if Hurts can't run this kind of offense because there's no long term future in the NFL by running designed run plays with your QB. Hurts has to become more of a passer and rely less on RPOs and the threat of him running the ball to open the defense.
I mean... OBVI if you're relying on anything, it's a bad thing in the NFL. I wouldn't want it to go away as long as he's sliding and it's not up the middle lol
@@YourBeastRoy I would personally like to see Hurts evolving more into the type of player Wilson was or that Mahomes is. A mobile pocket passer that can make off schedule improvised plays. Kinda like how Vick was for us.
@@Ocean5ix I mean jalen can already do that tho so I'm confused what are we saying? Jalen is very accurate on the run and good at improvising plays I mean he had to do that hald the 2023 season when his oc couldn't defend the blitz
Be the Wolf. He thinks fast, he talks fast. Lots of luck gentlemen.
The whole 2.3 seconds jargon nonsense shouldn’t have even been something to come out of these coaches mouths to the public…it s clearly not real in practice and application
It's real in it's practice and application, but the media really misunderstood what coach Nuss was saying. They're treating it as if the vast majority of throws in this scheme are going to be under 2.3/seconds. No way on that one. However, Dak did have a game vs the Giants in 2019 where his time to throw mark was 2.25/seconds. Then, he had a game in 2021 against the Chargers where his time to throw was 2.25/seconds as well. So, in total under Kellen Moore, Dak had 10 games where his time to throw was 2.5/seconds or less. Not all members of the media, but a few seemed to forget that time to throw marks are built off of averages. So, you need to know the total of throws in a game, season, career at a certain time mark. Most analytics comapnies track at 2.6/seconds, above and below.
Coach Nuss was saying that most progressions by a QB are completed within 2.3 seconds. However, things will happen on occassion such as a LB falling into a window, and a QB having to hold the ball for an extra few tenths of seconds to allow the WR, TE, or RB to clear that window. The whole best laid plans get spoiled or ruined sometimes.
He also referenced simulated pressure. That's what he meant in the interview when he said dropping 8 into coverage on 3rd down. You similate a 6-7 man pressure, but at the snap, you drop 8. That's what the Vikings did to us last year. If you're caught passing on that look, it's tough but not impossible to find a throwing window within 2.3 seconds.
So, the staff definitely wants to have built progressions that are fast, and we will see a lot more throws within the 1-10 yard radius, for sure. However, the media misunderstood that anything under 2.5 seconds is incredibly fast. Last season, according to Next Gen Stats, only 5 QBs had time to throw marks under 2.6 seconds. #1 Tua (2.36), #2 Mac (2.46), #3 Trevor Lawrence (2.51), #4 Trevor Siemian (2.53), and #5 Joe Burrow (2.54).
They're just making a little too much out of this.
Hopefully Hurts can read defenses..its yr 5 damn it😊😅😂
Ig he wasn’t reading the defense in the sb clown
@jaycartier02 calling me a clown,because your mancrush disappointed you...grow up,SON..FACTS don't care about your WOKE FEELINGS
@@TheodoreNicklas nah you the one with the man crush hating on hurts no jalen hurts no sb appearance 3 years starting and 3 playoffs if he couldn’t read a defense he wouldn’t end up in the playoffs your just a certified hater go do something better with your life other than hating on a guy that got way more success then us both put together
@@TheodoreNicklas just ask the chiefs defense if he can read cuz 380 Total yards with 4tds in a sb is so easy anyone can do it right 🤡
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Hurts has incredible ability as an athlete but he’s been terrible at reading defenses and his accuracy has been spotty at best…
Hurts MUST be able to quickly read defenses and see the field way better than he has so far.
No he hasn’t been