Something ive noticed in Silver is that a lot of junglers sit around by/in a lane for too long. Ive found out that if you ping while you are coming (obviously) and then if you get there and a gank isnt setup go straight back to farming but only a nearby camp. This way if an opportunity does pop up you can easily move back into lane. Lets say you are on blue team playing reksai and you are coming from bot jungle for a gank in mid. When you arrive you notice that a gank isnt available. Just go farm birds and move on. Even when you get a kill/assist when ganking go immediately to another camp or another lane.
+ShadowGhost2 That's what I do most of the time, but, but then the laner engages, thinking that I'm coming to help them even though they already are under ennemy turret ... then they get killled ... and they shout at me for not coming to help even though I said I would ... but I didn't cause they didn't prepare it ... In this elo, you can't really count on your laners to prepare the gank (even though some still do it ...)
+SNIPERonROOF what if they split push other lines if we count tht ur team sucks u cant camp 1 line all day long n win unless ur team at least holding their turrets which in low elo mostly they don't.
***** Yeah, but if the lane isn't set up correctly BEFORE the gank, then no successful gank possible, so I leave ... but those idiot laners still engage, thinking i'm still coming ... But yeah, camp a lane until turret is down, that can work ... if ally laners are a tiny bit smart :-)
after 15 minutes.. toplane 1/5/0 jungle 0/0/1 ... top: "noob jungle" jungle: "i gave u first blood with first gank and u are feeding. comon" top: "u only ganked once, enemy jungle ganked 4 times." jungle: "then stop push af and put wards???" top(all): "report jungle" top(all): "useless" comon. jungle always get blamed wtf.
It's surprising how big culture it is to tell how much another player sucks, but there is no culture for teaching each other what to do. League of legends is a complicated game, and those who want to learn the game, should get the tools from riot in order to understand them if they want to. Holy fuck, I used long time before I had an idea about how to play this game.
+Florian de Groot almost overtime just farm a lot ;) its how i come back in my games, I just leave the lanes for a little bit until I get the levels I was behind (usually it takes 4 or 5 minutes) but u still want to be watching the lanes just in case there is a free kill or free gank
I think the best moments in the video was when you went into specific examples, such as the zed gank. That really helps a lot because as a mid gold/low elo jungler, I show/engage at the wrong times constantly. Thanks man, do more!!
Great video dude, I see a lot of larger channels making videos like this. Almost none actually talk about strategy or put enough emphasis on it like you did. I wish I saw this when I was still in silver. Good job dude
Great video mate! There is a lot of information to take in. Would you mind doing a short summary of the main points at the end please? Or even in the description? A re-cap is always good to solidify lessons.
Enjoyed this video. It reminded me that I need to think more in regards to what the enemy jungler is doing and just how likely I will be to land my spells on an engage. Thanks.
very easy and very useful tips. I'm a support main player and its very difficult for me to play as a jungler. with this video I realize all the stupid things I did when I was a jungler. hoping to see more helpful and very useful videos from you.
i feel this video leaves essential information for anyone jungling at even my level i was plat 1 last season and i don't normally play jungle too often anymore.. although most of the information was pretty bare for me you did make some valid points that i never really looked at. this really brought me back into the jungle after a long time out of the game.. now to go read the changes. ill check back when im diamond ^.^
I think Vladimir + Maokay is hard to gank because Vlad can just pool away and cancel all your abilities/CC, while Maokai is tanky enough even at low levels + CC abilities to survive a counter gank. I play a lot of jungle and I usually look for : overly aggressive players ( tanky or not, if you're caught too far from your tower, I'm going to either burn your flash or kill you ), players that don't ward and have low mobility, and I also hunt the enemy jungler by heavily counter jungling him, stealing camps, ambushing at buffs, river vision control and such.
+LateNightGaming vladimir can be pretty easy to gank because vlad players tend to push alot and when you come you can make them burn the pool most of the time in low elo just by walking up to them and right after the pool runs out you hit him with all your cc. If he flashes -> good he doesnt have it next time
Bring a pink ward to the lane you wanna gank and drop it in the bush to see if there's a ward (if you're not eve). If there's a ward, kill it and go back to farm. Come back a bit later. Pay attention to the lanes. If you see the enemy going for the river, try to determine if they go deep ward or bush ward. If it's a quick bush ward, that pink will come in handy. Even if you don't gank the lane, you put pressure on them by killing the ward(with your pink) because now they don't have vision and they know you can gank them anytime. If they still over commit, they are either trying to bait(their jungler is nearby or they have a global ult ready) your lane or/and you OR they are foolish. Decide if you wanna try for a gank.
hello xsilent! i really enjoyed your videos so far and i got a question concerning climbin in "high" elo. for about 2 years now i climb and drop between plat 5-1 and i just dont manage to go up to diamond. my champion pool atm is seju zac amumu so pretty tanky beasts with AOE cc. would be nice to hear tips for this elo aswell. should i play meta champions? is it just grinding and tryharding?
What are some ways to communicate with your team about a gank besides the basic ping. I feel as if sometimes my team sees the ping but doesn't expect the gank to happen when it does. I know there is the other obvious way of using chat but that also seems to have its flaws such as people not paying attention to it and it wastes more time.
with the current jungle meta who would you say are good-strong jungle picks that can not only clear quickly but also bring something solid to the team?
the system i made for myself is that i have to take 3 camps before i gank, unless it's an emergency or a guaranteed kill, just don't get caught into a cycle of wandering around going into lanes without picking up farm
I do Yi Jungle. Dropped to Bronze 2 because of 12 matches where team scores were 10-30 or worse. 4 wins. As you also said, Yi is very weak early game and I don't gank much. When our Yasuo goes 1-5 he starts swearing at my family talking about how I suck and writes in /all to report me, but when I do gank any lane people leave me alone, I die 1v2 and then they start swearing again telling how I suck, blah blah. What do I do, I need help... ._.
I main Jungle and my friends keep telling me, when I gank I have to give my kills to the laner. Is this true? Because I see a lot of the jungler taking kills in the lanes in this video.
+JC crackle the reason why a lot the streamers who jungle take kills is cos they are confident in their skills to carry the game. then always take the kill cos a fed jungler can pretty much dictate how the early mid game will play out. but if your not confident and not sure how to carry a game its better to give the kills to a lane that is already ahead. but seriously if your top lane is 0/5 at 10 mins giving him that one kill will just reset his death money and that one kill wont allow him to snowball the already lost lane so yea.
+Jan Dinstpir well a lee is early mid game op but late game he doesnt do so much stress most know if lee gets fed it it doesnt matter even a good late game champ can destroy a fed lee thats ehy you should give your laner the kills :)
+Kbalz If all the lanes lose is not always junglers fault, normally if you actually did give pressure to the lanes and a couple of succesful ganks and the lanes are still losing is not your fault, its just that the other team is outplaying yours as a team, remember league is not an individual game its a team based game, and remember you are not a challenger trapped in silver or gold, there people that plays better than you, take better decisions than you overall and that why (in the most cases) you lose games. Just an advice tho
+Ceferino Gutierrez Rebolledo no I agree, not junglers fault. and I didn't say they blame the jungle. but my question still stands, when all lanes lose and are tilting, what should the jungle do to try and turn the game around? ganking a failing lane it's very risky, you risk giving a double kill and missing more exp.
+Kbalz You just watched how eve gank at loosing bot. Adc died, he didnt grab lantern which lets face it 90% low elo would which would have resulted in tripple for their bot. He waited, they over extrended and got pulled under turret easy double. There are some games which you feel you do your best but still couln't get the team over the line however when you see challenger players smurf and win/loss is 36/6, you have more influence than you think. ill explain it like this last thing. imagine you have a magic program that turns back your game 30 sec and it would resume as normal. So you make a bad gank at top and loose, rewind try again. Hit every spell still loose. rewind gank another lane or go back to jungle ect ect. my point is if you can make the best possible decision of every situation you will/ you can carry any game.
well, the things you say make sense, but I'm in bronze and I can tell you, things do not work like this most of the time in bronze elo.thanks for the advice though, liked the video :)
Good tips but there's one thing I'd like to discuss... You said that early game ganks are very important. To which, I agree but not the way you describe it on the video. Let me explain. I heard Nightblue3 explain this on one of his videos or stream (I don't remember) when he said that early game ganks arn't as cost effective as mid game ganks. In early game, all your gank will do is burn a couple of summoners or even get a couple of kills and that's it. In mid game, a successful gank will often lead to a tower takedown and/or a dragon/baron takedown. These objectives are way more usefull to actually winning the game than just getting a kill on the lane. So, his advice was not to waste too much time trying to gank on the early game but rather farm as much as possible so you can be strong for the mid game ganks which actually matter. Now, the counter-argument to this is that we're talking about low elo. This means that other players don't care about what can help win the game, as long as they "win the lane". So, if the opponent jungler ganks a lot, they tilt over your lack of ganks, teamwork goes out the window and you end up losing the game. So, are early ganks important? Only to keep your teammates from tilting. Do you agree? What's your opinion on this?
I struggle with keeping my lanes up, for example I'll gank a lane successfully twice and yet my team mates will still throw, and not do well, how do I keep winning when my teammates do poor or DC? For example I was 16-3-16 as Diana Jg and the rest of my team was negative, how does one continue to carry when the enemy team catches up and your team gets behind
+ClashOrCrash If you honestly sit down and think hard about everything you could possible be doing better and can't come up with anything, it's possible your team is just impossible to carry. Pro players lose games when they have a bad team, it's just how the game is. Don't get me wrong, you should always be thinking about what you could be doing better, even in a game where your team is dragging you down with them, but the reality is you could be the best player in the world, but if 2 lanes are losing severely or outright feeding, the enemy team would have to be morons to let you win. You can try to ward for people, try to gank when they're down, give them good advice and coach, be positive, talk to them politely and friendly, even if they're being rude back, sometimes a lane will just feed and play badly, sometimes more than one lane. Just focus on if you're doing anything wrong, and if you are not, then just count it as something beyond your control and have fun until that inevitable loss, then get into the next game and hope your team is decent.
basically what the guy above me said. some games are just unwinnable, tho at lower elo if you are better than your teammates are bad, u can win with sheer skill. for those games that are unwinnable, just focus on your game and improving. you should be winning more than you are losing
+Daniel Nemirovsky Diana can farm with Q without getting harassed, and has a shield and slow for surviving ganks, fizz can get obliterated by a lot of mid laners that poke him while he's trying to cs. If i'm playing malz I almost laugh if I get a fizz mid. If I play smart, he will be close to half health all the time, and usually get desperate and decide to all in me at lvl 6. A lot of mid laners can poke a champ like fizz and deny them a lot of cs and harass so they can't win an all-in and they're just kind of stuck. I like champs that can always fall back on strong wave clear. If you get behind all is not lost, just farm and wait for team fights or maybe a gank.
Daniel Nemirovsky Sweet. My mainstay mid is malzahar, but ziggs is also a cozy mid laner, he has some map presence with ult and with an athene's unholy grail you can just hide behind turret and farm if necessary. I also like ahri, she is really good and for a simple but potent mid, it's hard to beat annie.
I got from b1 to gold on eve jungle and started when she had burst ap, This season i feel like she falls off mid game or i do as jungler. I get a few kills and then tilt mode sets in mid game. Any tips?
you definitely do fall off lategame, so I would try getting ap early and ending the game fast before 30 minutes. if the game goes long, you should start buying tank items. A build that i've been trying is runic echoes -> rylai-> deadman and it works well. Abyssal scepter is another good ap item. You dont really want to stack flat ap on eve ever, because her scalings suck.hope this helped
An Intro music scene would be great. Somehow my brain is conditioned to the loud ass drum & bass or dubstep intros nowadays, so when they're missing it feels kinda odd xD
I have 1 question i usually play yi or rengar jungle and i have problem with devouver you said ganking is important but i have no time too farm too stack devouver how too stack it in less time?
+Adrian Dražić-Karalić use all the time you have, dont waste time waiting for a ganking opportunity. take as many crabs as possible and make sure you get the first and probably the second drake. I can recommend you to try the no-buffs first clear to be at lvl 6 earlier.
I kind of main Diana jg and found that I often got counter jg early then I pretty much lose the game. I feel like I have no power to contest any camp when the enemy invades. Sometimes, I even got killed by the enemy jg. In what way can I prevent that, or what should I do if my camps/ buff is stolen early? since it delays my lv6 and even the enemy snowball off that counter jg.
so I used to use yi hec vi, but then i found that I need some AP jg at times, so I tried diana. Either way, I still got countered and that was the main problem I lose games.
My only concern with this beginning video is that if it's a beginning video, why not cover the routes first? Like why not explain how to clear if your champ sucks at clearing? Also, there's a lot more to ganking than you've covered, like for example, where wards are, if they warded, sweeping wards to scare your enemy laners, knowing about the wards and going around them intentionally, knowing that the wards are JUST placed and going directly through them at low ELO is a good call too. I cant tell you how many times I caught someone off because I showed up 3 seconds after they just got back into lane after warding. Also, if it's a ganking video, you should cover gank heavy champions and gank light champions. Junglers like shyvana and WW have low ganking potential, so when should you gank with them? Im certain in the right hands, early ganks from WW are pretty strong.
Jungling is the worst position to play to get out of low ELO. If you're playing with low ELO players, most don't know how to help set up, secure, or even help when you do gank. In most cases, you'll find yourself going in to gank (especially the times when you've been asked to gank) only to find yourself going in, and your allies standing back under the tower expecting you to come kill everyone so they can just push. Then when you die, they'll always say "I didn't know you were ganking", after they pinged for assistance, you pinged you were coming, and then pinged to target the enemy you were going after. Second worst position to play to get out of low ELO. Support. You'll just end up kicking yourself in the ass 90% of the time for not picking a champ you could carry with, as your team loses every lane, and your adc is running around with 2 pairs of boots and health pots at level 18.
Barney Stinson You may have more success with that option, but still, the success of your team can often be too much for any support to make up for when you have too many bad players. Unlike going with a strong split push champion in top lane, where you can either keep their mid and jungler on you all the time, which allows the rest of your team an advantage since they're not ganking mid or bottom, or they can ignore you until you've destroyed their inhibitor and you just eventually backdoor win. All a bad team really needs to do at that point is slow the enemy team from pushing mid lane. There's just better options than support or jungle, that can actually carry a bad team to victory.
AClRCLEOFLlGHT Yeah but that is only true when really everyone in your team sucks and even then you can play smt like tryn or yi in jgl to carry the game. I did climb out of low elo with primarily jgl and from plat+ on with supp. And also: you cant always win your lane even if you are really good, some matchups and games just arent carryable by you and you have to make your teammates carry.
3:30 evelynn, jayce vs yi, cho. Evelynn early game is very poor while yi true dmg and cho cc+free aa is quite strong, i don't think that jayce and eve could beat cho and yi who play correctly.
+Must Choose nonono jayce and eve shit on cho and yi when playing correctly. When you get hit by chos knock up you did smt wrong and true dmg is only effective later in the game when everyone has armor. Eve and jayce both have extra movespeed to doge as well. And cho gath is really squishy early game.
That's the worst type of jungler. One of the major advantages of having a jungle is thier overall map pressure, and if you don't do anything but farm your throwing that advantage away.
+Mathew Vondersaar I only do this when im losing so badly i cant afford to gank. Like im 5 levels below midlaner and im 0/4 because master yi invaded all the time.
+Daniel Green You can go sated and still gank. I dont like the excuse of "Ive got sated I need my stacks". You can get stacks and kills at the same time. I wouldnt egg on silly low elo habits. Even if it works out late game, that's still just THAT game. Discourage this kind of attitude instead of giving a reason that it could be effective. As Mathew said, you are giving away your map pressure. Wws can gank before 6 its just most of the WWs you find are lazy and lack a simple knowledge of how to be creative.
0011thhour Lol ikr warwick is so easy to gank with even without ultimate. they just have to be at low heath or overextended and you can get them low or burn a flash (depending on the champion nothing at all too)
what champs are good for 1v5ing I got banned on main so I am playing on a lvl 27 acc soi have to carry ever single game 1v5 like forreal if I gank anyone they almost never even notice let alone help me at all
No hero can 1v5 anyone. Specially when they r together even without a tanky hero. Zed could work but its really hard..Even faker wouldn't win against 1v5ing bronze players.
Something ive noticed in Silver is that a lot of junglers sit around by/in a lane for too long. Ive found out that if you ping while you are coming (obviously) and then if you get there and a gank isnt setup go straight back to farming but only a nearby camp. This way if an opportunity does pop up you can easily move back into lane. Lets say you are on blue team playing reksai and you are coming from bot jungle for a gank in mid. When you arrive you notice that a gank isnt available. Just go farm birds and move on.
Even when you get a kill/assist when ganking go immediately to another camp or another lane.
+ShadowGhost2 That's what I do most of the time, but, but then the laner engages, thinking that I'm coming to help them even though they already are under ennemy turret ... then they get killled ... and they shout at me for not coming to help even though I said I would ... but I didn't cause they didn't prepare it ...
In this elo, you can't really count on your laners to prepare the gank (even though some still do it ...)
+SNIPERonROOF what if they split push other lines if we count tht ur team sucks u cant camp 1 line all day long n win unless ur team at least holding their turrets which in low elo mostly they don't.
***** Yeah, but if the lane isn't set up correctly BEFORE the gank, then no successful gank possible, so I leave ... but those idiot laners still engage, thinking i'm still coming ...
But yeah, camp a lane until turret is down, that can work ... if ally laners are a tiny bit smart :-)
When you gank mid you should take mid tower, it opens the whole map
this is so true. they got the kill and still tax the lane so hard
started watching you about a month ago and I've climbed 2 tiers. thank you.
after 15 minutes..
toplane 1/5/0
jungle 0/0/1
...
top: "noob jungle"
jungle: "i gave u first blood with first gank and u are feeding. comon"
top: "u only ganked once, enemy jungle ganked 4 times."
jungle: "then stop push af and put wards???"
top(all): "report jungle"
top(all): "useless"
comon. jungle always get blamed wtf.
+Phil Boss why dont u counter gank?
+Phil Boss Every game.
just don't answer them, or just answer "ok" an continue playing like you think you are most usefull for your team.
It's surprising how big culture it is to tell how much another player sucks, but there is no culture for teaching each other what to do. League of legends is a complicated game, and those who want to learn the game, should get the tools from riot in order to understand them if they want to. Holy fuck, I used long time before I had an idea about how to play this game.
Good tips, mate.
glad you enjoyed it
Smite on F, Dont trust him
+Michael Clifford mine is not at d, mine is at g ;d
+Michael Clifford
F is for flash. I don't understand people who put flash on D lmao
+H MC F can be recognized as fire, while D can be recognized as Dash, and Flash is closest thing to Dash.
fellow F Flash user
+H MC D for Displacement; F for Fuck you enemy jungler, this monster is mine!
+Michael Clifford D is closer to qwer so its better to have flash on the D key.
can you make a video about how 2 comback when you are behind as a jungler
+Florian de Groot sure
+Florian de Groot almost overtime just farm a lot ;) its how i come back in my games, I just leave the lanes for a little bit until I get the levels I was behind (usually it takes 4 or 5 minutes) but u still want to be watching the lanes just in case there is a free kill or free gank
You nailed it. Ganks are about patience and timing and most importantly, knowing your limits.
I think the best moments in the video was when you went into specific examples, such as the zed gank. That really helps a lot because as a mid gold/low elo jungler, I show/engage at the wrong times constantly. Thanks man, do more!!
Great video dude, I see a lot of larger channels making videos like this. Almost none actually talk about strategy or put enough emphasis on it like you did. I wish I saw this when I was still in silver. Good job dude
thanks man I appreciate it
Good back-2-basics vid.
I play a solid top, mid, and bot lane but jungling has always been a weakness for me.
Great video mate! There is a lot of information to take in. Would you mind doing a short summary of the main points at the end please? Or even in the description? A re-cap is always good to solidify lessons.
Enjoyed this video. It reminded me that I need to think more in regards to what the enemy jungler is doing and just how likely I will be to land my spells on an engage. Thanks.
I feel like if the team loses, they always will blame the jungler :D
pretty much lol. just gotta ignore them
Dusted Lia ya same as a jg main I am ALWAYS blamed
lol you have a chat restriction in the video... so much for ignoring :P
Cody Baley hey you can ignore them and flame them at the same time xD
I agree with that. solid video mate. slooooowly working my way out of "low elo"
very easy and very useful tips. I'm a support main player and its very difficult for me to play as a jungler. with this video I realize all the stupid things I did when I was a jungler. hoping to see more helpful and very useful videos from you.
i feel this video leaves essential information for anyone jungling at even my level i was plat 1 last season and i don't normally play jungle too often anymore.. although most of the information was pretty bare for me you did make some valid points that i never really looked at. this really brought me back into the jungle after a long time out of the game.. now to go read the changes. ill check back when im diamond ^.^
great format!
looking forward to go through your further videos :)
Very nice serie xSilent, I just subscribed to you. Awesome content man keep it up!!
I actually laughed out loud when you said "Now Press tab to check who the enemy jungler is"
Very good video! Really liked how you explained your reasoning for ganking. Subscribed c:
ya, i decide to get out of low elo such a wise thing from the get totally gonna jg out of bronze, love this vid too, good go mate :)
really good video bro
Nice job, keep going and good luck with more videos ^_^
I do love the fact he has a chat restriction on, look in the bottom left corner below the chat...
I think Vladimir + Maokay is hard to gank because Vlad can just pool away and cancel all your abilities/CC, while Maokai is tanky enough even at low levels + CC abilities to survive a counter gank.
I play a lot of jungle and I usually look for : overly aggressive players ( tanky or not, if you're caught too far from your tower, I'm going to either burn your flash or kill you ), players that don't ward and have low mobility, and I also hunt the enemy jungler by heavily counter jungling him, stealing camps, ambushing at buffs, river vision control and such.
+LateNightGaming vladimir can be pretty easy to gank because vlad players tend to push alot and when you come you can make them burn the pool most of the time in low elo just by walking up to them and right after the pool runs out you hit him with all your cc. If he flashes -> good he doesnt have it next time
Subbed because I don't need to learn but because you seem chill lmao
This was actually extremely helpful jungle is one of my weakest positions so this helped a loy
Looks good, and some useful tips indeed.
Bring a pink ward to the lane you wanna gank and drop it in the bush to see if there's a ward (if you're not eve). If there's a ward, kill it and go back to farm. Come back a bit later. Pay attention to the lanes. If you see the enemy going for the river, try to determine if they go deep ward or bush ward. If it's a quick bush ward, that pink will come in handy. Even if you don't gank the lane, you put pressure on them by killing the ward(with your pink) because now they don't have vision and they know you can gank them anytime. If they still over commit, they are either trying to bait(their jungler is nearby or they have a global ult ready) your lane or/and you OR they are foolish. Decide if you wanna try for a gank.
Dat chat restriction
though. XD
hello xsilent!
i really enjoyed your videos so far and i got a question concerning climbin in "high" elo.
for about 2 years now i climb and drop between plat 5-1 and i just dont manage to go up to diamond.
my champion pool atm is seju zac amumu so pretty tanky beasts with AOE cc.
would be nice to hear tips for this elo aswell. should i play meta champions? is it just grinding and tryharding?
Hey do u think you could do a video / series like this for s6, this really helped and I know with the new meta so some things could have changed
Thank you so much dude managed to climb 2 divisions after i watched ur guide :)
What are some ways to communicate with your team about a gank besides the basic ping. I feel as if sometimes my team sees the ping but doesn't expect the gank to happen when it does. I know there is the other obvious way of using chat but that also seems to have its flaws such as people not paying attention to it and it wastes more time.
I did not know the objective of jungle is to create and apply pressure. that was helpful
what junglers do you recommend for gold plat?
happy 4.20 :D
Very good hints and tips.... And best of all - i understand it ;)) ty
Which runes/masteries do you use on eve?
What do you have to do if you gank toplane since and meanwhile botlane is feeding Africa?
great video man, thanks for the tips!
Im honestly curious what teamates i should have if i use jungle shaco
so what is your runes for evelyn ?
with the current jungle meta who would you say are good-strong jungle picks that can not only clear quickly but also bring something solid to the team?
Okay, thank you I'll look into them
Nice vid found this very useful got me out of bronze =)
Thanks!
Thanks definitely gonna sub =)
These were great tips and I hope to get better with them
your commentary is a little choppy but you're still doing great
Gank is my new favorite word.
Need help with my rammus jungling. I can't find the balance between banking and farming.
the system i made for myself is that i have to take 3 camps before i gank, unless it's an emergency or a guaranteed kill, just don't get caught into a cycle of wandering around going into lanes without picking up farm
is this 4k video
what region do you play in can i play with you
I do Yi Jungle. Dropped to Bronze 2 because of 12 matches where team scores were 10-30 or worse. 4 wins.
As you also said, Yi is very weak early game and I don't gank much. When our Yasuo goes 1-5 he starts swearing at my family talking about how I suck and writes in /all to report me, but when I do gank any lane people leave me alone, I die 1v2 and then they start swearing again telling how I suck, blah blah.
What do I do, I need help... ._.
very nice pls more of those
wow your videos are useful.. I'm only 10 lvl and this made a lot of things clear for me.
evelynn build?
i jg a lot and this was actually really helpful.. thank you so much
whats your pref build on evelyn and your ad to ap ratio?
+TheCarlosis ap jungle item -> rylai -> tank
who do u suggest as good junglers? and what runes and masteries do u use for evelynn? ty for the great video :)
currently nid and Elise are pretty strong. vi is always viable, mundo is strong, then gragas reksai are always good. lees good too but tough
currently nid and Elise are pretty strong. vi is always viable, mundo is strong, then gragas reksai are always good. lees good too but tough
Just a tip.
Turn up the microphone, it's very low volume
should i gank if i clear but i have 30-40% health but enemy isfull hp
I main Jungle and my friends keep telling me, when I gank I have to give my kills to the laner. Is this true? Because I see a lot of the jungler taking kills in the lanes in this video.
only if you have to secure the kill. and it's good to let the jungle carry
+JC crackle As lee you have to take kills because you are ganking a lot as lee and if you are fed it's easy to force them to surrender
+JC crackle the reason why a lot the streamers who jungle take kills is cos they are confident in their skills to carry the game. then always take the kill cos a fed jungler can pretty much dictate how the early mid game will play out. but if your not confident and not sure how to carry a game its better to give the kills to a lane that is already ahead. but seriously if your top lane is 0/5 at 10 mins giving him that one kill will just reset his death money and that one kill wont allow him to snowball the already lost lane so yea.
tommi yu ty
+Jan Dinstpir well a lee is early mid game op but late game he doesnt do so much stress most know if lee gets fed it it doesnt matter even a good late game champ can destroy a fed lee thats ehy you should give your laner the kills :)
nice vid
rly this vid will help me alot when i go jung
7:53 "i knew i could surprise them"... what those kills were all thresh
What do you do when all three lanes lose, feed, and constantly ping for help?
+Kbalz If all the lanes lose is not always junglers fault, normally if you actually did give pressure to the lanes and a couple of succesful ganks and the lanes are still losing is not your fault, its just that the other team is outplaying yours as a team, remember league is not an individual game its a team based game, and remember you are not a challenger trapped in silver or gold, there people that plays better than you, take better decisions than you overall and that why (in the most cases) you lose games. Just an advice tho
+Ceferino Gutierrez Rebolledo no I agree, not junglers fault. and I didn't say they blame the jungle. but my question still stands, when all lanes lose and are tilting, what should the jungle do to try and turn the game around? ganking a failing lane it's very risky, you risk giving a double kill and missing more exp.
+Kbalz You just watched how eve gank at loosing bot. Adc died, he didnt grab lantern which lets face it 90% low elo would which would have resulted in tripple for their bot. He waited, they over extrended and got pulled under turret easy double. There are some games which you feel you do your best but still couln't get the team over the line however when you see challenger players smurf and win/loss is 36/6, you have more influence than you think. ill explain it like this last thing. imagine you have a magic program that turns back your game 30 sec and it would resume as normal. So you make a bad gank at top and loose, rewind try again. Hit every spell still loose. rewind gank another lane or go back to jungle ect ect. my point is if you can make the best possible decision of every situation you will/ you can carry any game.
whats ur main rank?
well, the things you say make sense, but I'm in bronze and I can tell you, things do not work like this most of the time in bronze elo.thanks for the advice though, liked the video :)
Good tips but there's one thing I'd like to discuss... You said that early game ganks are very important. To which, I agree but not the way you describe it on the video. Let me explain.
I heard Nightblue3 explain this on one of his videos or stream (I don't remember) when he said that early game ganks arn't as cost effective as mid game ganks. In early game, all your gank will do is burn a couple of summoners or even get a couple of kills and that's it. In mid game, a successful gank will often lead to a tower takedown and/or a dragon/baron takedown. These objectives are way more usefull to actually winning the game than just getting a kill on the lane. So, his advice was not to waste too much time trying to gank on the early game but rather farm as much as possible so you can be strong for the mid game ganks which actually matter.
Now, the counter-argument to this is that we're talking about low elo. This means that other players don't care about what can help win the game, as long as they "win the lane". So, if the opponent jungler ganks a lot, they tilt over your lack of ganks, teamwork goes out the window and you end up losing the game.
So, are early ganks important? Only to keep your teammates from tilting.
Do you agree? What's your opinion on this?
I struggle with keeping my lanes up, for example I'll gank a lane successfully twice and yet my team mates will still throw, and not do well, how do I keep winning when my teammates do poor or DC? For example I was 16-3-16 as Diana Jg and the rest of my team was negative, how does one continue to carry when the enemy team catches up and your team gets behind
ClashOrCrash focus on taking objectives instead of running for kills.
+ClashOrCrash If you honestly sit down and think hard about everything you could possible be doing better and can't come up with anything, it's possible your team is just impossible to carry. Pro players lose games when they have a bad team, it's just how the game is. Don't get me wrong, you should always be thinking about what you could be doing better, even in a game where your team is dragging you down with them, but the reality is you could be the best player in the world, but if 2 lanes are losing severely or outright feeding, the enemy team would have to be morons to let you win.
You can try to ward for people, try to gank when they're down, give them good advice and coach, be positive, talk to them politely and friendly, even if they're being rude back, sometimes a lane will just feed and play badly, sometimes more than one lane. Just focus on if you're doing anything wrong, and if you are not, then just count it as something beyond your control and have fun until that inevitable loss, then get into the next game and hope your team is decent.
basically what the guy above me said. some games are just unwinnable, tho at lower elo if you are better than your teammates are bad, u can win with sheer skill. for those games that are unwinnable, just focus on your game and improving. you should be winning more than you are losing
Hi, i like high burst mid laners and i think that diana and Fizz are match to my play stayle. But i don't now who is the best for me. Can you tell me?
+Daniel Nemirovsky Diana can farm with Q without getting harassed, and has a shield and slow for surviving ganks, fizz can get obliterated by a lot of mid laners that poke him while he's trying to cs. If i'm playing malz I almost laugh if I get a fizz mid. If I play smart, he will be close to half health all the time, and usually get desperate and decide to all in me at lvl 6. A lot of mid laners can poke a champ like fizz and deny them a lot of cs and harass so they can't win an all-in and they're just kind of stuck. I like champs that can always fall back on strong wave clear. If you get behind all is not lost, just farm and wait for team fights or maybe a gank.
+hzuiel i already picked diana i tryed them both
Daniel Nemirovsky Sweet. My mainstay mid is malzahar, but ziggs is also a cozy mid laner, he has some map presence with ult and with an athene's unholy grail you can just hide behind turret and farm if necessary. I also like ahri, she is really good and for a simple but potent mid, it's hard to beat annie.
Best build for evelynn?
+Sloppy Bollocks runic echoes -> rylai's -> tank
I got from b1 to gold on eve jungle and started when she had burst ap,
This season i feel like she falls off mid game or i do as jungler. I get a few kills and then tilt mode sets in mid game. Any tips?
you definitely do fall off lategame, so I would try getting ap early and ending the game fast before 30 minutes. if the game goes long, you should start buying tank items. A build that i've been trying is runic echoes -> rylai-> deadman and it works well. Abyssal scepter is another good ap item. You dont really want to stack flat ap on eve ever, because her scalings suck.hope this helped
An Intro music scene would be great. Somehow my brain is conditioned to the loud ass drum & bass or dubstep intros nowadays, so when they're missing it feels kinda odd xD
Thanks! this helped me quite some bit :D
how do i react if i'm playing a weak early game champion such as nautilus or rammus and the other jungle is ganking all the time?
try to farm up and ward your lanes, or counter gank
well that's a problem, because im not good with calling where enemies are and if i farm, others are mad because i don't gank
+megadiller123 teammates get mad about everything, don't let them stop you from doing whatever you think is the right decision
I like how you have a chat restriction in this video.
I have 1 question i usually play yi or rengar jungle and i have problem with devouver you said ganking is important but i have no time too farm too stack devouver how too stack it in less time?
+Adrian Dražić-Karalić use all the time you have, dont waste time waiting for a ganking opportunity. take as many crabs as possible and make sure you get the first and probably the second drake. I can recommend you to try the no-buffs first clear to be at lvl 6 earlier.
Barney Stinson thank u so much sir! :)
Ty, keep it up
I kind of main Diana jg and found that I often got counter jg early then I pretty much lose the game.
I feel like I have no power to contest any camp when the enemy invades. Sometimes, I even got killed by the enemy jg.
In what way can I prevent that, or what should I do if my camps/ buff is stolen early?
since it delays my lv6 and even the enemy snowball off that counter jg.
I would not play diana jg, you cant do anything early or when enemies invade you
so I used to use yi hec vi, but then i found that I need some AP jg at times, so I tried diana.
Either way, I still got countered and that was the main problem I lose games.
STTYL if you want to play an AP jungle, use elise evelynn or nidalee. they are actually good and can fight enemy junglers if they try to counter you
Got it! good tip thanks bro!
great explaining thanks
My only concern with this beginning video is that if it's a beginning video, why not cover the routes first? Like why not explain how to clear if your champ sucks at clearing?
Also, there's a lot more to ganking than you've covered, like for example, where wards are, if they warded, sweeping wards to scare your enemy laners, knowing about the wards and going around them intentionally, knowing that the wards are JUST placed and going directly through them at low ELO is a good call too. I cant tell you how many times I caught someone off because I showed up 3 seconds after they just got back into lane after warding.
Also, if it's a ganking video, you should cover gank heavy champions and gank light champions. Junglers like shyvana and WW have low ganking potential, so when should you gank with them? Im certain in the right hands, early ganks from WW are pretty strong.
why is his screen sozoomed out how does hedo that
he just got the hud real smal I think
Why do you have chat restrictions ??
my team sucks gg
+xSilent You're toxic, why else would you have a chat ban?
+cresbot it was a joke
Fuzzy TV I know that was a joke, but he has to be toxic to have chat bans.
cresbot no shit sherlock
Nice tips.
yeah set all your teammates ahead and they'll just throw the game after pft
thanks man that really helped , tried it made the enemy jg cry
this does not work, you are assuming that low elo players can set up and follow a gank
and you assume that every low elo players isnt able to do that :D
Matardoll most of the ppl in low elo doesn't know how to setup a gank lol and i said most.
;) true ^^
See the problem I have with brain dead Laners who don't go in when I gank
great tip thanks for the help
waow thanks i was bronze II and i was silver III but the new season came thx :D
Jungling is the worst position to play to get out of low ELO. If you're playing with low ELO players, most don't know how to help set up, secure, or even help when you do gank. In most cases, you'll find yourself going in to gank (especially the times when you've been asked to gank) only to find yourself going in, and your allies standing back under the tower expecting you to come kill everyone so they can just push. Then when you die, they'll always say "I didn't know you were ganking", after they pinged for assistance, you pinged you were coming, and then pinged to target the enemy you were going after.
Second worst position to play to get out of low ELO. Support. You'll just end up kicking yourself in the ass 90% of the time for not picking a champ you could carry with, as your team loses every lane, and your adc is running around with 2 pairs of boots and health pots at level 18.
the ADC part was the funniest shit I've read in a while... thanks 😂😂
+AClRCLEOFLlGHT unless you play hyperagressive bard carry "support".
Barney Stinson You may have more success with that option, but still, the success of your team can often be too much for any support to make up for when you have too many bad players. Unlike going with a strong split push champion in top lane, where you can either keep their mid and jungler on you all the time, which allows the rest of your team an advantage since they're not ganking mid or bottom, or they can ignore you until you've destroyed their inhibitor and you just eventually backdoor win. All a bad team really needs to do at that point is slow the enemy team from pushing mid lane. There's just better options than support or jungle, that can actually carry a bad team to victory.
AClRCLEOFLlGHT
Yeah but that is only true when really everyone in your team sucks and even then you can play smt like tryn or yi in jgl to carry the game. I did climb out of low elo with primarily jgl and from plat+ on with supp.
And also: you cant always win your lane even if you are really good, some matchups and games just arent carryable by you and you have to make your teammates carry.
3:30 evelynn, jayce vs yi, cho. Evelynn early game is very poor while yi true dmg and cho cc+free aa is quite strong, i don't think that jayce and eve could beat cho and yi who play correctly.
+Must Choose nonono jayce and eve shit on cho and yi when playing correctly. When you get hit by chos knock up you did smt wrong and true dmg is only effective later in the game when everyone has armor. Eve and jayce both have extra movespeed to doge as well. And cho gath is really squishy early game.
Thanks for making this video.
Anyone else see his name?
xD ikr kaycetron
When I play jungle I just farm like a nasus top
That's the worst type of jungler. One of the major advantages of having a jungle is thier overall map pressure, and if you don't do anything but farm your throwing that advantage away.
+NinoDroid Better go sated then...
+Mathew Vondersaar I only do this when im losing so badly i cant afford to gank. Like im 5 levels below midlaner and im 0/4 because master yi invaded all the time.
+Daniel Green You can go sated and still gank. I dont like the excuse of "Ive got sated I need my stacks". You can get stacks and kills at the same time. I wouldnt egg on silly low elo habits. Even if it works out late game, that's still just THAT game. Discourage this kind of attitude instead of giving a reason that it could be effective. As Mathew said, you are giving away your map pressure. Wws can gank before 6 its just most of the WWs you find are lazy and lack a simple knowledge of how to be creative.
0011thhour Lol ikr warwick is so easy to gank with even without ultimate. they just have to be at low heath or overextended and you can get them low or burn a flash (depending on the champion nothing at all too)
Can you make more vids?
Thank you, that really helped out. :)
how to gank with kha zix s6
good advice thanks
what champs are good for 1v5ing I got banned on main so I am playing on a lvl 27 acc soi have to carry ever single game 1v5 like forreal if I gank anyone they almost never even notice let alone help me at all
+Henry Emerson Spam Ping them..they will forgive you when they get the kill
No hero could 1v5 anyone if their together. Zed could work but what if they flank you? Even faker cant win 1v5 even against bronze.
No hero could 1v5 anyone if their together. Zed could work but what if they flank you? Even faker cant win 1v5 even against bronze.
No hero could 1v5 anyone if their together. Zed could work but what if they flank you? Even faker cant win 1v5 even against bronze.
No hero can 1v5 anyone. Specially when they r together even without a tanky hero. Zed could work but its really hard..Even faker wouldn't win against 1v5ing bronze players.
a kaseytron fan with chat restriction...sounds about right.
try hitting the littl minions first with non aor champs
When you jungling at low elo, there is only one thing u should know
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SAAAVE YOUR SMITE :p
I remember a quinn jungle who smited baron at 3/4 health with only one charge left.
A karma stole it with a basic attack.
+Artameful you sir r lying.
+Björnus And u sir r an idiot.