Sony A7S II Hands-On Field Test (In New York!)
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2015
- The Sony A7S was a tremendous camera that we filmed many TCSTV episodes on. But while the A7S is still unmatched for low light video ability, Sony has lunged ahead and replaced it with an even more impressive model. Chris Niccolls and Jordan Drake flew out to New York to take a look at this compelling new camera!
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Shot by Jordan Drake & Chris Niccolls, edited by Jordan Drake
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Props to to you Chris and Jordan for this channel. I have watched dozens of your videos now and I have got to say you guys do the best job of any youtube reviewers. Your reviews are fun but at the same time very informative without getting too long and boring.
Keep it going! You guys are doing fantastic.
Great video, guys! It was great to meet you both. To everyone else, these two really are as nice as they seem :).
+Tony Northrup Both of your channels are one of my fav on youtube. keep going !
+Tony Northrup Fantastic to meet you guys as well. We'll do a crossover some time!
Jordan @ TCSTV
+TheCameraStoreTV XOVER!!!!!!! *fanboi splosion*
+League of Winning I can't do slide layouts to save my life. Also, Tony and Chelsea might have trouble duplicating my antagonistic relationship with Chris.
Jordan @ TCSTV
+TheCameraStoreTV is your surname "the video guy" ?
;-)
Nice review as always.
Yay! USA! Glad you could come visit; I hope you enjoyed your time in New York.
Gosh! This is the first video of your channel that I watch on my new 5K iMac @4K. This little Sony is extremely impressive! The 4K footage at ISO 3200 or even 6400 looks so good!
Best quality I've seen so far- wicked!!
Guys, yo do such a great job!!!! I will not get tired to praise all the info and goodness that you give the UA-cam world. Congratulations and thank you very much!!!.
Saludos desde México!!!!
You guys are the best, honestly, so entertaining so professional and knowledgeable. Great job
Great video. I really like you guys talking about the photo capabilities of the a7sII. We all know this camera is more of a video camera, but people never talk about it's photo side enough. So this has been much appreciated. As someone who's looking to invest in one of these cameras for video, it's definitely helpful to know what it can do in photography as well.
keep up the good work guys. As always, i enjoy your stuff.
MY BROTHA THIS CAMERA IS INSANE !!!! can't wait til i get my hands on it
Welcome back man...long time no see...always cool reviews...keep it on :)
cracking video as always lads.
This is a great review! One of the more helpful ones thanks!
Great video! Thank you for putting in the time and effort.
Thank you for this comprehensive video, I loved it!
Jordan did an awesome job on the review
Reviews are always good!
Ritchie, sounds great!
great video and awesome field test
Thanks guys, Great job as usual:)
GREAT overview!
shooting chris through that gate at about 2:00 just made me lol for some reason. awesome vid, great camera!
Terrific report, would love to see you guys travel more!
+brtnspn So would we! If this video does well it'll hopefully inspire some more episodes on the road.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Awesome video! Would be really interesting to see a Sony A7Sii vs A7Riii / A7iii low light face off (video)...
Wow, this thing is incredible in low light. As soon as I hit iso 6400 on my T4i, there's sooooooo much noise.
Nice pictures/video...feels like you're really there
Awesome review, just awesome :)
Come back every now and then to reminisce about what a paradigm shift this camera was!
Damn, those stary lights at 8:43 are just beautiful.
Awesome review
Awesome review. That's it.
nice to see your video outside Calgary
Tony and Chelsea :D that so coooool! and great video by the way :)
This camera is insane. Can't wait to get one of these things used. I honestly can't tell the video quality apart from cameras that cost like 20 times more.
The a7S II was introduced one year after the original a7S of 2014. So its 12MP sensor couldn't be so different than the previous. However the sensor stabilization and the faster processor of a7S II offers better handheld shooting and 4K without external recorder.
I'm fairly sure that's Bill Cunningham at 12:12 what a legend.
+The Awoken Yeah it looks like him. I only know about him now that I saw the documentary on him on Netflix a few months back.
Isn't great knowing there are characters like Bill in the world. I met him in paris and got a photo with him.
+The Awoken It's Gotta be. He's wearing that iconic french workman's jacket.
+The Awoken Wow, that's amazing.
+The Awoken It totally is! Recognized him immediately. How funny
Great review guys. If you don't mind sharing, what is your audio setup/equipment?
I'm getting really good signs about this camera and didn't realize you were so close to me in Canada.
Thanks for the great review. Did you guys run the video to the clip limit to test for shutdowns due to overheating? That is the only thing I found missing.
What mic setup are you using here? It is super good quality considering that you are in the city
cool review you guys 👍
very enjoyable review , excellent work , thank you .
Excellent question and exactly whatI have been wondering too?
Lincoln Center, right by where I work. Sorry to have missed you guys.
Great review! Fellow Canadian here, currently working on a NYC vlog with some of those same familiar sights :) I was so hoping the A7SII would have the same AF / face tracking as the A7RII. I'd be buying primarily for filming, so I should get the A7SII, but the A7RII's face tracking paired with their 28mm f2 creates some pretty mind-blowing results for vloggers... just wish they had a flip-out screen. Will you guys be reviewing Canon's new G5X?
Oh man, great videos... If knew you were in town I would have stopped by to shake your hands. You both are the leading UA-cam photographers who give us straight informative and fun reviews about quality products. I guess I'll just have to fly out to Calgary to visit. Great job guys. Tony has nothing over you, your the best.
+Thomas Bryant Follow us on twitter, we were posting about the trip constantly leading up to and during the shoot. We had a chance to meet a few NY fans, it was great!
Jordan @ TCSTV
+TheCameraStoreTV oh gosh I am sorry, I actually don't Twitter... But I guess I will NOW. Thanks guys, I hope you had fun in my neck of the woods.
Hey, thx for the review. What are you using for lighting? Like at the 3:26 mark? Ice light? It looks great.
And I'm over here still waiting on an a99 II! Still, great video as always.
Great choice of music! 😉
+discotechwreck Beatsuite had a really nice selection of Jazz for this one.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Great Vid as always Chris, hope your doing great will try to pop bye and say hi soon :)
Hey guys! Love all of your videos, what mics do you use in your reviews and is this audio internal from the Sony A7sII?
is there a ranking by you guys for all the cameras you reviewed? would be nice to have some comparison esp. to older cameras like the GH4 that were previous (or still are?) video kings.
So cool!!!
What lens did Jordan use to film this?
hey! what do you think about the jello effect on sony a7s ii while recording video? i was surprised you guys didn't talk about it!
Great review guys!! BTW what did you use to capture your audio?
I always approve of more Jordan.
+mcol3 Wish I always agreed. Starting to feel more comfortable doing being on camera though.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Fellow Calgarian here, and damn, good for you guys being invited to that sweet looking launch!
I could feel the energy and the mood of the locations you chose to shoot in, and it really made me appreciate seeing the footage, and heading your evaluations that much more!
I currently have Batis class on order from TCS, so maybe I'll get the chance to say hi one of these days!
and who knows, maybe purchase an A7Rii at the same time?
So much inner conflict on what to buy when one is 60/40 video/stills, but that's cameras in 2015 for ya!
+mpxz999 The A7RII is far and away the better choice for hybrid shooting. I really consider the A7SII a strictly video tool.
Jordan @ TCSTV
+TheCameraStoreTV I think since the full frame 12mp A7s II sensor is mainly for 4K UHD video they should put it in a full frame camcorder body like the VG900 with zoom rocker for PZ lenses like the full frame FE 28-135mm F4 PZ cine lens , extra large battery compartment and no over heating on long shoots.
Jordan - Maybe a dumb question...but I have been waiting for this camera to see what it can do. I shoot mostly docs and weddings. Love my two GH4s but been thinking about a C100 for low light and the dual pixel AF because I fly a MOVI M10 rig (BTW everything I shoot in UHD I down-res to FHD) and need to keep focus as single shooter. Would you think the C100 is good enough in low light to the A7s2 monster low light performance for the C100 low light and AF? WONDERFUL reviews and channel!
man oh man what a camera. one day I'll be able to afford a camera like this for my videos.
holy moly those shots at 6400 iso weren't noise reduced or anything were they? that is noice, when are these available on the market?
Is this your favorite mirrorless camera for video? Great review!
did you use a dedicated microphone for this documentary or the sound simply was captured by the camera? i have the camera for over 6 months but i havent fully maximised its potential for video recording. thanks a lot!
have you had any experience of this camera freezing? Mine freezes every time I hit record and Sony won't fix it. Just made a video about it
Great overview thanks! The only thing that still bothers me, are potential overheating issues. It doesn't seem that they've improved the form factor much in terms of heat displacement and I'm also wondering how effective the heat sink would be on a sensor that requires it to be unfixed/movable, due to the built in stabilization.
I'm really glad to hear you didn't encounter any heat issues in this test, but I'd love to see how this camera holds up in long sessions i.e. 30+ minutes or even hours, with only a few second's pause in between takes to change cards etc. More than that, it would be interesting to see how it holds up outside in the warm South African summer sun.
The video image looks superb though and I really hope the form factor, stabilization and internal 4K recording doesn't come at a cost. Thanks again for the test. Love your channel. :)
Hi guys! Great video as usual. Do you know if I can use the same metabones adapter and batteries from my Sony A7s on the Sony A7s II?
Can you please specify how you managed to get good sound while recording this while competing with the road traffic. I tried see if there were any mic's attached to the shirts of the hosts but did notice any.
Cheers for the great info provided in the videos.
Great review! You should convince Julian to send you guys to different cities more often. 15:58 drooool.
Hey Guys another awesome video. Thanks for all your hard work. I'm guessing, since it wasn't mentioned, you guys didn't have any problems with this over heating. Or did you?
+MShirow None at all.
Lol, My favourite part... When 4 Professional Photographers/Videographers get a picture taken together it's with a shitty cellphone lol with finger smudges on the glass in low light.. Oh man, lol, Love it!! ha ha ha.. :P
what lenses is he using 28-70mm?
Great video as always, guys. I especially loved those starbursts from the lights. It's not something you see too often in low light videos, but i suppose the high ISO capabilities of this camera allow you to shoot at much lower apertures and still maintain your desired shutter speed?
+romeo and juliop Exactly! I'm used to seeing low light video with distracting shallow depth of field. The A7S lets me chose the right aperture for the shot and then just use ISO for correct exposure without worrying too much about noise.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Thanks for a great video. I'm looking at buying 7s ii. At the end you guys mention that it's focus by wire only camera, while the specs claim that manual focus is available. Did I misunderstand smth?
100% agree with the need of a REAL focus ring, not a focus by wire. Thanks for this review. I just got one, and the learning curve is quite steep for me.
Would you choose the a7S II over a Panasonic GH4 / shogun combo for filming interviews, camera would be tripod mounted in a well lite studio? And what lens do you recommend for said scenario?
Hi guys ! Thanks for your hard work ! Could you tell me which IS lenses you would recommend for the Sony A7s II? And also which zoom ? Thanks in advance :-)
Great review. Does this have quick autofocus with canon lenses via adaptor like the 7rII?
Hi, is the 5 axis stabiliser available on 3rd party canon EF lens via adaptor or sigma E mount for Sony, or must you have native Sony E mount lenses. Also, is clean HDMI out available while recording and playback while also mirroring to the LCD cheers.
What mic do you guys use when shooting? Love the videos by the way. :)
Great video! Whats your guess on a release date for the a7siii? Any rumors? Any guesses?
I also found very interesting comparison between A7S 4k & A7S mark II about high ISO noise and colour in youtube ,,newsshooter" canal. It looks like we have a new low light king.
can you compare a7r ii with RX1RII? would be interesting to see 35mm f/1.4 against the smaller 35mm f/2 on the RX1Rii
You guys have the best hosts/presenters on #youtube
What audio equipment are you guys using? Are you wearing lav mics? How is the audio so clear?
Thanks for the great review. To me, full frame footage from the a7rII doesn't seem terrible at all... it seems to fall apart quicker at high ISO's, but otherwise I wouldn't hesitate to use it if I had good light.
I love all the high ISO tests, you guys did a great job with those, but it'd be nice to see more footage in good light at the a7sII's native ISO. The high ISO tests look great given the circumstances, but the skin tones and color reproduction look a bit dull/off. What's your take on that?
Since some of the above issues definitely owe to UA-cam's high compression (I watched in 4K, though, that's for that option!) can you make this video- or part of it- downloadable? You could even charge a dollar or two-- because people serious about dropping $3K on this camera would love to have real HQ footage to look at. Especially those who grade the footage they shoot! :)
Hey, thanks for the review. I would like to ask you if you have a channel or this video on vimeo. i want to see it in better quality?
what about the extended focus field? I know you were primarily shooting manual, but I thought another big feature of the mk2 was the 160 point focus brought over from the a6000?
Phwoar! That lowlight capability!
How is video sharpness and noise in good light compared to the Samsung NX1? I've seen comparisons where cameras like the GH4 and A7R II often look soft compared to the Samsung camera. Also, how is the slow motion quality in the Sony compared to the NX1?
Hi, @13:03 Jordan speaks of LUTs.... can you pre load LUTs on this camera? I can't find any info on this anywhere.
Thanks, Peter
Thank you for the great hands-on video!
I've been trying to decide between the A7R II and the A7s II, primarily looking for the "best quality" 4k, quality high fps modes, along with stellar photo performance(now that there is lossless raw, supposedly).
I'll likely be using canon lenses which puts me in a unique position...
I've rented the A7R II and have to say that the s35 crop 4k (oversampled from 15mp) has fantastic detail (unlike its FF mode)... Does the A7s II FF 4k compare to the A7R II s35 crop in resolvable detail???
Given that there are EF -> E focal reducers/speed boosters to give the same FF view on crop and a stop faster (and perhaps not as good AF), the A7R II 4k crop ends up matching the original A7s (and likely the A7s II despite the half stop improvement in processing) in amount of noise as shown here ua-cam.com/video/C5jUch_VhLk/v-deo.html but also... it seems the noise profile subjectively looks nicer on the A7R II due to less chroma noise. I also noticed the slight difference in white balance in that particular comparison video (maybe due to difference in the internal camera processing) Of course there is still the ISO limit of the a7r II vs the a7s II.
In which case it might be a matter of effective resolution vs maximum high iso/low light performance...
Another deciding factor is... rolling shutter. A7r II measures 29ms in 4k s35, 16ms 4k ff, 7ms hd crop (www.cinema5d.com/sony-a7rii-rolling-shutter/) The Sony A7s II announcements suggested that the 1080p 120 fps could do full sensor pixel readout, but www.newsshooter.com/2015/10/15/video-testing-the-sony-a7s-ii-at-120-fps-in-low-light-with-zeiss-loxia-21-and-milvus-lenses/ says otherwise... If it at least is able to do 1080p60 at from FF though.. that could mean the 4k FF could be read out in approximately 16ms as well, which is more detailed than the A7rII 4k at FF, but probably not more detailed then the A7rII 4k at s35 (which has double the rolling shutter latency)
The A7s II hands down has better high fps performance, since A7s II 2.2x 1080p120 100mbps(1:1 readout) vs A7r II 720p120 50mbps(crop not sure if exists in FF, not even sure if crop is 1:1 readout, line skipped to do 1.5x??) Coupled with the enormous pixels needed to capture at high shutter speeds, the A7s II, I'd say would be more versatile for slow motion. Though I'm unsure if the 1080p60(could be oversampled like 4k s35?) fares any better in detail on the A7r II in crop.
I'm not sure if the A7r II will ever get the slog-3 mode, but it's also another factor, along with the A7s II's LUT preview.
I suppose it boils down to... A7r II High res-low res 4k, high-med 4k rolling shutter, low res 120 fps(720p, 1.5x crop?) low rolling shutter, 1080p60?? not sure of res (crop(line skipped or not) or ff) low rolling shutter? vs A7s II almost high res 4k (guess),med 4k rolling shutter,high res 120fps (1080p, 2.2x 1:1 crop) low rolling shutter, but with slog3 and LUT preview..
Though without any adapters, the A7s II low light, high iso >> A7r II as well, but then the A7r II 42.4 mp is great when there is light.
There are just so many modes to watch out for... and then yes the menus are terrible
Hi guys,
how is the video autofocusing of the A7SII compared to the A7RII ? i thought Sony stick to contrast detect AF so it would be better for video AF, but the part at the end where Chris mentions AF made me doubt that now.
I always thought phase detect AF was only good for stills, as it would be too fast or "harsh" for video, where smooth focusing transitions are preferred.
the RX1RII looks great, but I wish they had added IBIS for the price, as the RX1 series would really benefit from it.
Are there not 4 custom buttons on this camera which you could use to assign for LUTs and Video record ? There is also a battery pack by Sony which gives better grip and more battery power.
Superb
Thanks for the great review. My only other question that wasn't really touched on was the possibility of overheating when shooting 4k? Did you guys test for this at all? Thanks again guys and keep up the great work!
+Di2ifter We didn't encounter any overheating or even overheat warning all night.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Hi Guys, what picture profile did you feel was best for photography? I know most like to use s-log 2 & 3 in video for the dynamic range but what are your thoughts for photos. Thank you in advance.
Is there any diffrent between the noise the camera produce when shooting 4K in high iso vs shooting in 1080P?
No overheating problems in 4K?
Any overheating problems like the a7rii in 4k?
Still haven't seen any definitive answer to 4k overheating. Does this camera overheat during long takes? 30 min and up is the concern. Thank you for all you guys do!