I think the main issue is the nut. The plastic nut that comes with the guitar is very low quality. I lightly sanded the inside of the grooves with very fine sanding paper and I put graphite in the slots, and it helps minimally. I think if you get locking tuners and a tusq nut you should be able to use the tremolo. I also seen a guy who replaced the bridge with a Wilkinson trem, and he floated it. He can bend both way with it.
@@oddoutdoors I did replace the nut but without modifications to the nut it's not staying in tune, but like you said at the other video it maybe needs those V shaped cuts to the nut holes.
From what i saw online, ppl say the main reasons for tuning problems are the tuners and nut, not the bridge itself, saw a couple of videos where a kid was doing light dive bombs on a black JS22 w/o going out of tune, another guy with a blue one with a wilkinson WVS50 w/o locking tuners and on his replies he said it would go out of tune if he went a little hard on the whammy bar use. I'd say to focus on the nut and tuners if you want tuning stability, people crap on Jackson's tuners but i don't know if they are really that bad, i recently bought a JS32 with a locking system so i wouldn't really know if they are THAT bad, for me at least, they seem to do their job. I think the springs are really crappy though, whenever i use my floyd, it goes ever so slightly sharp or flat depending on which direction i push it, nothing crazy but still.
Hi. I think also that, Jackson tuners are maybe not that bad. I tighten all the tuner screws and now those feel very strong so i don't know if tuners are the reason at all? You don't need to buy locking tuners because you can lock the strings by that one method that some use. It locks the strings same way like locking tuners but for free. It can be nut and i order a new Graph tech PT-6643-00 Black Tusq nut which should be good and very slick so strings doesn't get stuck. If tuning still fails after nut change next part is to try new springs for tremolo. If it is not the springs then it has to be Jackson tremolo bridge and that is little more expensive but i will change that if it's the reason cause i like this guitar very much, it's maybe my second best guitar after strat.
@@kuitaristi3003 yeah, that's one of the reasons i went for the JS32, before getting it i was planning to get the JS22 and upgrade the bridge, tuners and nut, but that would be way more stuff to buy than to get the 32 and just upgrade the saddles, since it's a rebranded FR Special and the only thing that sucks big time on these are the saddles. I'm really digging mine too, only wish it was the white version like yours, they only had the natural oil on the 32 ones when i bought it lol
@@VitorPh3nom Natural oil is not bad looking :) I am maybe planning to put some band stickers to my JS22 like some guitars have the entire body covered with stickers then it looks more like my guitar.
Yes but this way you have options. Just by using piece of wood you can have hardtail, and by taking it off you can use tremolo again :) Also i haven't seen any JS Dinky models with normal tune o matic/hardtail bridge which is little strange? But for me i wanna use my tremolo.
@@patrickshannon4516 Not at all. It's the nut or that 2 point tremolo which makes tuning issues. When tremolo is blocked tuning stays fine but don't know is it still the nut?
@@kuitaristi3003 well my experience is that locking trem are better than non locking trem they don't have tuning issues. Ànd the good thing about locking trem is that if it does come out of tune a little bit: easy fix with a fine tuner...
@@patrickshannon4516 Cheap floyd rose can have tuning issues too, but yes floyd rose usually has better tuning stability because both ends are locked. It's not impossible to get this 2 point kind of tremolo to stay in tune but it needs some things to do, or change the tremolo bridge to other or nut, or both for better ones. I just like this strat kind of trem more because it's easier and faster to change strings and it's more familiar to me. My strat has 6 point trem (normal Fender strat trem) and it stays in tune fine.
I'm gonna search this tuning problem till i find the solution so that, in the future someone else who has it can fix it fast.
I think the main issue is the nut. The plastic nut that comes with the guitar is very low quality. I lightly sanded the inside of the grooves with very fine sanding paper and I put graphite in the slots, and it helps minimally. I think if you get locking tuners and a tusq nut you should be able to use the tremolo. I also seen a guy who replaced the bridge with a Wilkinson trem, and he floated it. He can bend both way with it.
Yeah i noticed those things too. I got new gotoh bridge and locking tuners and will try those with stock plastic nut so that, i know if it's the case.
@@kuitaristi3003just replace the nut. It's like 12 bucks and an hour or 2 to install and it will actually fix the problem.
@@oddoutdoors I did replace the nut but without modifications to the nut it's not staying in tune, but like you said at the other video it maybe needs those V shaped cuts to the nut holes.
From what i saw online, ppl say the main reasons for tuning problems are the tuners and nut, not the bridge itself, saw a couple of videos where a kid was doing light dive bombs on a black JS22 w/o going out of tune, another guy with a blue one with a wilkinson WVS50 w/o locking tuners and on his replies he said it would go out of tune if he went a little hard on the whammy bar use. I'd say to focus on the nut and tuners if you want tuning stability, people crap on Jackson's tuners but i don't know if they are really that bad, i recently bought a JS32 with a locking system so i wouldn't really know if they are THAT bad, for me at least, they seem to do their job. I think the springs are really crappy though, whenever i use my floyd, it goes ever so slightly sharp or flat depending on which direction i push it, nothing crazy but still.
Hi. I think also that, Jackson tuners are maybe not that bad. I tighten all the tuner screws and now those feel very strong so i don't know if tuners are the reason at all? You don't need to buy locking tuners because you can lock the strings by that one method that some use. It locks the strings same way like locking tuners but for free. It can be nut and i order a new Graph tech PT-6643-00 Black Tusq nut which should be good and very slick so strings doesn't get stuck. If tuning still fails after nut change next part is to try new springs for tremolo. If it is not the springs then it has to be Jackson tremolo bridge and that is little more expensive but i will change that if it's the reason cause i like this guitar very much, it's maybe my second best guitar after strat.
@@kuitaristi3003 yeah, that's one of the reasons i went for the JS32, before getting it i was planning to get the JS22 and upgrade the bridge, tuners and nut, but that would be way more stuff to buy than to get the 32 and just upgrade the saddles, since it's a rebranded FR Special and the only thing that sucks big time on these are the saddles. I'm really digging mine too, only wish it was the white version like yours, they only had the natural oil on the 32 ones when i bought it lol
@@VitorPh3nom Natural oil is not bad looking :) I am maybe planning to put some band stickers to my JS22 like some guitars have the entire body covered with stickers then it looks more like my guitar.
Defeats the point of having a tremolo.
Yes but this way you have options. Just by using piece of wood you can have hardtail, and by taking it off you can use tremolo again :) Also i haven't seen any JS Dinky models with normal tune o matic/hardtail bridge which is little strange? But for me i wanna use my tremolo.
@@kuitaristi3003does it stay in tune when you use the trem?
@@patrickshannon4516 Not at all. It's the nut or that 2 point tremolo which makes tuning issues. When tremolo is blocked tuning stays fine but don't know is it still the nut?
@@kuitaristi3003 well my experience is that locking trem are better than non locking trem they don't have tuning issues. Ànd the good thing about locking trem is that if it does come out of tune a little bit: easy fix with a fine tuner...
@@patrickshannon4516 Cheap floyd rose can have tuning issues too, but yes floyd rose usually has better tuning stability because both ends are locked. It's not impossible to get this 2 point kind of tremolo to stay in tune but it needs some things to do, or change the tremolo bridge to other or nut, or both for better ones. I just like this strat kind of trem more because it's easier and faster to change strings and it's more familiar to me. My strat has 6 point trem (normal Fender strat trem) and it stays in tune fine.