1930 Ford Model A FIRST DRIVE in 40 years! Gandalf the Green Coupe
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- 1930 Ford Model A has been off the road since 1980. Finally got it safe enough (barely) to take it on the road for a short drive! In this video, we completed getting the rear hubs off so now all the brakes and hubs have been inspected, serviced, and lubed. The mechanical brakes and parking brakes are adjusted. We know it will stop, but.... Will it drive?? Follow along as we bring Gandalf the 1930 Green Coupe back to life!
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Lots of Easter egg gags to be found in this episode.
I loved the Tonya Harding jokes, Craig’s List rebuild line, and for us old guys, Mr Kotta, Mr Kotta! I actually worked on that show way back in the day when Travolta still had hair.
Wow!! That's cool!
As often as I have seen brake cleaner for every other potential use on a variety of car channels, it is good to see brake cleaner used to actually clean brakes 😉
Couldn't agree more!
Not only did I use the simplest tools for a job (to keep my fingers educated), I had a dedicated throwing wrench: I could count on it landing without collateral damage, while delivering the drama I needed for the moment. Thanks again for another great "A" lesson.
Oh, that 'throwing' wrench brings back memories! My dad used to do that! It never hit Anything, and yet it got the attention of Everyone! Dad finished out his naval service as a senior chief, and he 'threw' a wrench across the hangar a few times to punctuate his ire! Thanks for the memories!
(poor young sailors that did not know his theatrics)
Agreed
I used to have a temper hose (Soft length of hose), I could beat on the car and it hurt nothing but made me feel better. Sorta like a TV brick.
Love that another A is saved from the tourtuerist abandonment of it's beauty. Model A. 1. Hot Rod 0 Thanks for the rescue.Keep the faith,thanks again.
Thank you!
The "half-a-sandwich" dialog is wonderful. "Analyze this!" is a fun movie. Thanks a bunch for the great videos on the Fords, Paul!
Good catch! Specifically, it was from the sequel, "Analyze that". Tina and I are always quoting funny gangster movies.
Seeing these old cars run and drive again are some of my favorite videos. That car has such a great look to it, I'd almost hate to see it get the craigslist rebuild.
Just going to do the fenders so they don't rust. Leaving the body as is
@@ModelA I think I prefer the old weathered look to your usual high standard of finish. When they are as new it worries me when they get a small nick or ding.
That was a great episode of roadworthy rescues you did with derek
Thank you!
Hi Paul, I agree with you, why make things more complicated or difficult. The good old fashion adjustable wrench did just fine, no fuss no costly wrenches, that's how it should be. Great instructions on brake cleaning, adjustment and removal. I enjoyed seeing the old Gandolf driving, love it. Thanks Paul, I hope you and Model T have a wonderful, safe weekend!
Thanks!
Kids today just cannot appreciate the beauty of this car 😢
@@michaellang6853 _Cough_
So sweet the sound of that 4 cyl. A's forever, Terry.
Agreed
So when is Derek coming to work on a project at your shop?😂 I enjoy watching the way you two have influenced each other. All because of a UA-cam channel!
Who knows? I told him to come out and experience what driving a fully sorted Model A is like. You never know, he may take me up on it.
@@ModelA I think Derek is moving up to the big time kinda like Roadkill did. I will miss the early purity of his videos.
Roadworthy Rescues is playing on the tv in the background.... Nice. And its the episode with Paul and Derek.
Easter egg
Great to see Gandalf running and driving! I really like that color and body style.
First time I’ve ever seen someone actually use brake cleaner on brakes!🤣🤣
Thanks! Maybe some day we will see someone using duct tape on ducts!
Great to see it driving!
It's getting some turn signals soon too!
@Paul Shinn not a signal stat 700 by any chance????
@@joe_diy You're a good guesser!!
Great job 👏 thank you for the time you put into these videos this information is priceless 😀. Take care, Mike the off grid guy.
Thanks, you too Mike! FYI- I am half off the grid. Solar, 8D batteries, Exeltech inverters.
Who needs Les Andrew’s books. Lol As long as I have your videos. Just kidding bout the books. But you and your practical approach are the best. Thanks and keep em coming.
I appreciate that!
Loved the jack scream !!! I thought I was the only one that did that. Looks like I'm normal just like Paul...
With mechanical brakes, getting the adjustment equal must be a challenge. a few hundreds of an inch difference, one brake will grab and the other do nothing at all. At least this was the way my rear emergency brake worked on my VW. Incidentally, your Gandalf the Green Coupe had the same color as my old 56 Beetle Convertible. Glad to see you save a great bit of history!
They are pretty easy to adjust perfectly on a Model A. I did a whole video showing how.
at 13:25 in the video, I noticed that you have tricked out your 4-way lug wrench as I have by putting some electrical tape on it where it could come in contact with the wheel hub - prevents scuffing the paint. One other tip -- if you put a little bit of liquid rubber into the socket that you use for Model A lug nuts, you can prevent the end of the wrench from marking up the area around the lug nut. Think I saw that tip in an old Restorer magazine.
My wife and I just watched that movie. You broke my heart jelly.
No doubt, Paul, a genuine win!
It’s always to have the right tools. Gandalf sounds good too!
Thanks Steve!
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video and your knowledge of the ford model A is amazing thanks for the presentation
Thank you!!
Now that was a nice Hub puller
The Mitchell hub puller is sweet.
Lol Paul, I have the same jack and it sounds identical also from the first use till this very day. Thank you again for this enjoyable informative video.
Ha! OK, thanks Erich!
You're making great progress on Gandalf! Thanks for the video!
Thank you too!
Another great video! Thanks!
Gotta love those vintage Fords!! Such awesome looking cars!! Great video man! 🚗
Love your approach and explanations. Gives me motivation and help on helping my son get his '26 T going.
thanks! Oh, wow..a 26 Model T! Neat! I hope you get it going soon.
@@ModelA he's 15. Bought it when he was 14. Hopefully get it running by the time he gets his liscense. Car is all there, rough shape(interior, top, some rust) but has been stored inside many years. We believe it to be untouched original. We have new coils in it and have fired it. Need to go through the carburetor and it should be a runner. Then all that's left is everything.
He's 15??!!! Most excellent!!
Spectacular car... I love It... My DREAM... It's so soft drive... Quite engine... Must be very confotable ride...
squeek! Squeek! SQUEEEK!
Those HF jack's; gotta luv 'em!
Does yours do that also?
My old HF jack from years ago did. The current jack (also HF) does not. Old one was all steel, new one is a slab sided aluminum chassis.
Paul...You sir are a Model A Animal!!!. Love your videos...
Thanks Pat!
Nice job Paul! Good to see you got it out on the road again.
Thanks! Now to make it less scary..
Amazing these old cars still work like they should and you can get parts.
The Ford Model A is the most supported classic car ever
Guy's doing good by wrenching and saving on these ol rig's👍
Indeed!
Paul, good work. I learned something new- craigslist rebuild.
Ha ha!! But so true...
Nothing like a new set of welcome back cotter pins. Great video paul. Hope in the future you can take a tour video of the rouge. Plus Henry Ford estate is close to the rouge.
I really would like to tour the Rouge. Can you hook that up?
@@ModelA yep. Passes are pretty cheap. Plus it's where the new f150 lightening is built.
Woohoo! Let's go!
Paul, your new vocabulary is a great tribute to Derek....and makes me laugh!
Hang around a guy 12-16 hours a day for a week or two and stuff rubs off
Real man! We don't need no instructions! (double negative!)
Absolutely
Funny you mention that about duct tape. At my work, a couple of air handlers are being installed and duct tape is being used for temporary duct work. Cracked me up when I saw it!
Hahaa!
Always learning a new model A shop trick from Paul, 31 45B
I always look forward to watching yours's and Model T's video's.. I had to LMAO when you used a small sledge hammer to do the final bend of the cotter pin on the passenger side rear drum and used a small ball peen hammer to do the driver's side!! I have a coworker that his only tool is a large hammer!!! Thanx again for a good video!!
Haahaa!! I throw little easter eggs in the videos. Most people miss them. You caught that one! Good work!!
I'm glad you learned the difference between the Captain's side and the Drinkier's side. Amazed you know what to call that hand-impact device as well. I can see the video names now: "1931 Model A Ford left in a pasture for 60 years. Will it run and drive back to California?" In other words: "You be dipped"!
Hahhaaaa!!!! I'm never going to be as popular as Vice Grip Garage, don't worry.
@@ModelA Don't count yourself out. Your channel is growing and you have that real VGG sincerity that people really love. I was a very early subscriber and have watched VGG grow. Keep up all the great work you are doing. We less-young Model A folks love what you do.
@@benkanobe7500 Thanks Ben.
Мне нравится твоя философия, Пол: нет плохих новостей, есть только хорошие новости; зачем нужны новые инструменты, если старые отлично справляются.
I like your philosophy, Paul: there is no bad news, there is only good news; why do you need new tools if the old ones are doing great.
Да!
Squeaky jack, but your shop door doesn't squeak! 👏
Is fixing the door pockets on the todo list? It'll drive much better if they're not so droopy! 😄
Probably not.
I always have difficulty aligning the axle key, or preventing it from angling up and jamming. You make it look easy.
Ha! Thanks! Lots of experience.
love those cars, maybe somdaye il have one in my collection
I hope you get one soon. They are a lot of fun!
@@ModelA im sure I will, its a horrible but sweet addiction LOL but so worth preserving history so others can enjoy
You should use a breaker bar to tighten that nut. It should be REALLY tight. If the hub loosens even a little bit , long term use is what breaks axle shafts at the taper.
👍 wonderful work
Good tip on keeping your thumb on the same side when loosening the lug nuts. I've had a lug nut kick back before and it hurts.
Hahahahaa!!
Vicegrip has had a serious effect on you Paul!
Spend that much time and that many days in a row with a feller, and they rub off. I'm almost back to normal now!
Thank you
You forgot to tell about why the car would not start before Thanks again for another great video
It's an upcoming vido
A crescent wrench is my favorite tool. Sometimes people will waste a whole day to use the "right" tool when it could be done quickly.
agreed
Tanya Harding! Wow, now that's a name I haven't heard since, well, last week! Haha! A gillooly club! Wield with pride!
No matter how stiff they are I back off the adjusters never had one beat me yet . My hub puller is a forged steel cone with a big nut to load the axle and a sliding bolt inside it that you bop . It has 5 hokes around the edge fo the lug nut holes never seen one in USA . After I pull the hub I check the keyway for wear and cracks this is where the axle breaks . This is why you see backplates with "flats" on the bottom when a wheel has made a bid for freedom .!!! The axle/hub connection is a " mechanical bond" the taper is locked to the hub . I cean the axle and hub with cellulose thinners to make both parts grease free . I use a torque wrench and pull up tp around 80 foot pounds . The spec calls for 100 ft/[bs but as my axles are around 90 years old I err on the side of caution . I have a box of axle nuts so can choose one to line up the cotter . I do the brakes like you do . Good video as usual .
I found that a little anti-seize on the studs for the lug nuts makes things go a lot smoother when putting the wheels back on. I also torque the lug nuts to 70 ft-lbs, but maybe the model A wheel doesn't warp with uneven tightening. Yes, I am a retired auto shop teacher...
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours 👍
Same to you!
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family
Thank you! A very blessed Thanksgiving to you and yours
Your garage is SO CLEAN!! It shames me...............😔
Very Nice Paul Happy Thanksgiving 🦃
Thank you! A very blessed Thanksgiving to you and yours
Paul, for what it's worth, the chap with the UA-cam Channel called "Project Farm" did an episode comparing Floor Jacks. I think Harbor Freight was one of them. Project Farm is one of the better channels. Cheers
Gotta check that out. Thank you! A very blessed Thanksgiving to you and yours
Great video and beautiful car... My EZGO golf cart has about the same rear brake design. When I changed the brakes out on my cart I used the exact same tools as you. Even the same Tonya Harding and the Tonya Harding 4.0.....lololololol......(Minus The Mitchell Hub Puller).
Hahhaaaa!! Excellent!! I'm almost afraid to see what a TH 5.0 looks like.
@@ModelA lololololololol
I think Harbor Freight considers the sqeeking a "feature", because mine does the same thing. "Positive lifting alarm" I think is what it's called.
Hahahaaa!!
So Paul, is the windshield being replaced or just repaired? Thanks Dale
Replaced
Thanks Paul for another great video. Just wondering though what was so sketchy about the test drive?
The tires are rock hard and pieces were flying off
@@ModelA oh no! LOL
Little jagged rock hard pieces of rubber were flying everywhere
Another fun and useful video Paul. I thought Tonya used an ASP collapsing baton?? 🤣
I never got close enough to find out
Curious question about tires. Have you any idea about how many miles a modern replacement tire for the A would last? 20k? 30k? Just idle mind wondering. If I get 9k out of my rear tire on one of my bikes I'm happy. Tire spoons I have!
20K on the set of Goodyears on the coupe, still look new. 18K on the Firestones on the tudor, still look new.
Thanks!
Thank YOU!!
Just curious why you didn't grease the wheel bearings while you had the hubs off?
the rear wheel bearings get greased via grease fittings on the bottom of the axle housings
When reassembling I always put a little grease on the rear bearings just to make sure .
Greetings from down under the Taxi guy 🦘🚕
@@russellboyle1368 Hey Russell! The bearings were already well greased, and it was clean. In previous videos, I lubed it, and there was still plenty.
Its remarkable how many terms, names, mannerisms you get from Vice Grip Garage--Derek influences everyone he comes in contact with. VGG is a stroke of home-grown genius and has become very successful, I will be sorry to lose his early charm as he becomes more of a media mogul with Motor Trend.
MotorTrend won't change Derek, that dude is solid. Derek is changing MotorTrend though!
One other thing. What's your preferred method of getting frost off the front window? The de-froster doesn't work on my 30 Fordor.
Fluffy terrycloth towel and hold tour breath
There are Guns and there are Rifles. There are Motors and there are Engines. They are all the same, except when needed. That is when some of us know the difference.
I know this is an older video, and I have REALLY been enjoying the A videos! But what exactly is the difference between the 1928-29 "early" hubs and the 1929-31 "late" hubs?
The shape
Thank you for this video! We look forward to them always. I have found the Mitchell puller to be worth its weight in gold for removing stubborn hubs. However, and please don't take offense, but....what works for Derek does not work for you and is not funny. Please bring back the old "Paul." We sure miss him and his originality.
No offense taken. Your honesty is appreciated! Now that I've been back home a while, it's fading away slowly. Spent a LOT of time with him, so it rubbed off.
I want to get a model A!
Living on the left coast, you probably don't encounter the rust issues we have back in Michigan, but do you suggest anti-seize on those clevis pins for the brakes? Just curious..Brake work looks pretty straight forward to me. You make all the repairs appear pretty simplistic. Thanks for that. Keep up the good work!
I live in a tropical climate, and have been using anti-seize on all my pins. Then again, I'm still restoring the car, but don't see any downside to using it.
@@ScumClassWorks I'm a firm believer in the stuff, but wasn't sure if that area would be subject to debris sticking to it or any other issues I hadn't thought of. Thanks for you feedback. I appreciate it!
P.S. Good luck on your project.
The thumb position is only important when your cranking the car. I learned that cranking an Austin Seven Ruby..It really hurt my 10 year old hand when it back-fired...
I was just making a joke. Thanks!
Looks like 'Mr Bieri' rubbed off on a guy. Well, I'll be dipped!🤣
Consider us both dipped
if you are happy with the tools you have,then what is the problem? not with yourself i can tell! great video!
Very true!
Paul, great timing! I’m still on research mode on my 400, the other day I set the E-brake and it went on very easy, so I went under the car and it’s missing both of the rods? Looking for the 41 inch connecting rods and coming up with zero, any suggestions from you or anyone, would be helpful. Ken in KY
Bert's has them. Tell Steve I sent you so you get hooked up
Mr Shinn, I live in mountainous area of East Tennessee. Can a person add a small turbo to a stock flat head. To boast power when needed?
That's where I wanted to live. I have heard of that, but never seen one. These aren't performance cars. But maybe you'd be better off with a Mitchell overdrive. That 2nd gear + overdrive is magical on hills
Tanya Harding! Lol!
Hey we can watch VGG in the background. Or was that the motor trend video?
That was the episode of Roadworthy Rescues where I was a guest.
Hi Paul - Do you ever use anti-seize on the wheel studs or is that not used on Model A's? Seemed pretty dry.
I usually just use a tiny amount of grease
Hello paul, i would like to know the difference between what you do in this video with the crowbar and the wheels to you can turn the wrench as hard as you would like and, in the last when you stopped turning the wrench once the cap barely started to tension up?
One looks cooler
@@ModelA haha ok thanks
What books or manuals or other publications do you recommend for a newbie 🤔? Thanks 😊
The Les Andrews red book! Available at MAFCA.com
Jack may squeak, but he works.
Sounds like you're picking up some of Derek's phrases!
Oh, NO!!
Add washers to the puller for pulling the drums?
Hmmm ... Maybe. Thanks!
16:42 Brown Cloth covered wiring loom:
I was surprised your 1930 A, wiring loom look so good is at an original
I replaced it years ago. See the first video in this series for the full explanation and closeups
@@ModelA Oh yes, Paul I watch all of your videos, but as a Boomer myself I believe that I will blame my memory lapse on old age and I pray to God it's not the early onset of Alzheimer's.
I forgot what we were talking about...
How did you get it started? I missed that info. ..and I agree, those tires look like from the Flintstone era. 🤣
That's an upcoming video
I had the same question. Sounds like stay tuned same bat time same bat channel.
Yep!
Looks just like mine. I like those tires..What are the specs for the rears?
Rock hard spec
Concerning your acts of plagiarism- a job well done👍
It's been a long time since I've had a stock Model A but don't I remember the Les Andrews Manual calling for 100 foot pounds of torque on those axel nuts??? That certainly didn't happen with that 10" crescent wrench. What's your logic there??
My logic is, they just need to be tight. Many thousands of miles just like this, no problem. If you torque them to specs published in the red book, they will strip. It is wrong.
Is that delamination of the windshield around the edges?
Yes
In case I missed it , is Gandoff 's alternator 12 volt or 6 volt
6 volt, positive ground.
@@ModelA thank you
HelloPaul. I have 1949 Pontiac SILVERSTREAK it's 15 degrees Henryville Indiana and I'm try to start Pontiac
Cool!
Can tell you’ve been hanging with Derek a bit 😂
Hang around a fella for 12-16 hours a day every day for a week or two and things like that happen. If it makes you feel any better, I rubbed off on him too.
my thoughts exactly
Mr. Kotter. That's showing you age. Mine too actually....