Is this 1930 Ford Model A Coupe worth saving? Is the motor OK? Now we know!
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2022
- Gandalf the Green Coupe has been fighting me every step of the way. Is the motor blown up? Today, we find out! Follow along as we bring Gandalf the 1930 Green Coupe back to life!
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For those who are CONSTANTLY on my case about calling it a "motor", here is the definition of the word motor-
mo·tor /ˈmōdər/ noun
"A machine, especially one powered by electricity or internal combustion, that supplies motive power for a vehicle or for some other device with moving parts."
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Your first road trip in Gandalf the Green will truly finish the cleaning/drying process of your exhaust! Looking forward to the future with this car.
Fingers crossed!
I agree. 😊 That darn spoon. His 2 brothers, knife, and fork are in cahoots with him.
Yes!!!
Nice work Paul. You are busy and we still get a video on Saturday Morning.
Yes, but I have nothing in the hopper now/
And Paul cries with gusto, "Yo soy El Jefe!" Oops! Wrong lingo from El Gringo! You guys are great together! ....say 'roll entro'...I had to pick myself up off of the floor!! Saturday morningz with Paul & Tina. I always have a laugh and a big smile! Thanks again.
Gracias amigo!!!
Thanks Paul and Model T , it always brightons my day to see you all and a Model A
Our pleasure!l Mike
Sounded like a 1940s farmall H with the muffler off lol. Love it!
Troubleshooting made simple.
In aviation compression checks are done with a leak down tool. You can borrow part of the proceedure to check various cylinder system components simultaneously.
When I want to troubleshoot cylinders I regulate air psi to 50 psi and use a homemade sparkplug adapter.
Remove sparkplug from cylinder to be tested. Remove rest of plug wires to preclude accidental starting). Turn crank to bring cylinder to tdc. Screw pressure adapter into sparkplug hole. Apply pressure slowly to sparkplug hole (note if cylinder is very close to tdc crank won’t rotate but some method to restrict crank rotation is desirable and be aware of the possibility so nobody gets injured if engine crank rotates 1/2 turn.
1. Excess air coming through carburetor = leaky intake valve
2. Excess air from exhaust = leaky exhaust valve
3. Excess air from the crankcase breather = leaking rings.
4. Bubbling from radiator = leaking head gasket.
Allows you to isolate problems to individual cylinders and eliminates or identifies specific problems very well.
If you add a leak down orfice and a second pressure guage to the test rig you can monitor wear over a period of time of each cylinder but I usually have a pretty good idea from performance so I just use the troubleshooting technique when needed.
An example of simplicity, a linkage to engage a starter rather than having a starter relay and a sundry wiring. I surmise a modern car has multiple sensing circuits connected to a $300 plus circuit board not to mention the mandated idiot lights buzzers and bells.
13:40 😃😃😃Loved that moment.
This was fantastic
I always love troubleshooting videos. Very rarely are we just swapping out Parts because we feel like it. It's usually because something has failed. If I had seen oil pouring out of the muffler on my engine, I would have instantly freaked out and been ready to sell the darn thing. Glad it worked out for you. I'm also glad that I learned something again from this video as far as that short starter bolt. I'll definitely keep that reminder in my back pocket next time somebody is on the forum and says I just put a new starter in and I can't get the engine to crank over!
All three bolts are the SAME SIZE - 1" long. Check the Ford Parts List if you doubt it. I did.
Excellent video and problem solving skills! Gandalf just keeps getting better.
Another awesome video I'm very glad to see you healthy paul
What fantastic result, and a relief eh ? Sounds beautiful now. Great, informative vid, as usual thanks
Hello Paul, this was a great video. I love it when you give us commentary as you work. And really helps us to understand the process of fixing and rebuilding things better. Thank you so much for your videos! You made my day with this video! Have a great weekend!
Thanks QSG!! I just have to remember to verbalize everything and not keep it to myself
@@ModelA Yes, thank you. ;)
I am caretaker of my employer's 1930 "A". I tried to start it and the starter just spun, would not engage. I discovered that the bolt that holds the starter drive to the shaft had come out. Thanks to you and the on-line community for the suggestions on how to fish the pieces out of the bell housing without tearing everything apart. I am ashamed to say when I reassembled it I did violate your no locktite rule.
Curious to know what brand wax / polish you and Tina prefer? My favorite used to be Astroshield, but they don't make it any more.
Tina is using Meguire products. Several of my older videos talk about finishes and what I use.
Really like your hands on videos . 😊
Another successful repair!
Grayt episode! The suspense was palpable! Glad it was not a problem with rebuilt engine and looking forward to more updates on Gandalf.
Thanks Robin
Your perspicacity and assiduousness in resolving this matter is most impressive!
Thanks!
love your videos. cant wait to get my own Cabriolette mode A
Excellent choice. Go for it!
Hi Paul, Been waiting for this one! Glad it turned out to be nothing to do with the new engine. Great vid! Big thank you to you and Model T for the information and the laughs! Loved it!
Thanks again Jim!
Hi Paul, great news on the engine. Looking forward to the next process on Gandalf. Have a great weekend.
Thanks VMG!
I hope that car has a great future ahead.Thats another beauty you've got for yourself.So jealous of your floor! Wish I could dedicate my garage to just our 28,,,,,but I don't see any chance of that.Great video AGAIN keep us informed on her progress.Thx D.J.
Use your longest bolt on top 2 get the other two bolts lined up. It also helps to hold the starter in place.
Really like your videos. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Great video as always Paul. Its both Educational & fun. I think Paul & Mrs T. Have done a good job teaching us about old Fords but even more as Vintage Ford ambassadors. than any other sources. Thanks for both.
Glad you enjoyed it Michael! Thank you for the kind words
Glad to see Gandalf moving forward. For some stupid reason UA-cam didn't notify me of this video last week...Bad UA-cam!!
Seriously, I'm glad it wasn't more serious than a bad starter. Keep working on Gandalf.
Will do!
Wow, it looks like I am the first to comment, new for me. Great to hear the oil issue wasn't an engine failure. I believe you have your issue solve, Paul, congrats. The starter pointers was great to hear, I can always use a refresher on them, I don't do much with them nowadays. Great video, really enjoyed it, thanks for sharing, I would like to wish you and Tina a great weekend.
Thanks Dan!
I used spacers to line up the bendix with the starting gear, to Henry's specs. Betsy pops right over and runs. Now I'm dealing with super fine rust making it to the carb.
I have really enjoyed re-watching these videos! While i looks involved and many steps, its comforting to know its al doable, and really isn't that complicated. Just time consuming. If you dont depend on this for dailey driving, it can be fun..... lol. Thank you so much for sharing! I've learned a few things.
Thanks Ken!
Nice episode, Paul. Complete confirmation the engine is good. The starter tutorial was interesting. Nice to see Model-T too!
Glad you enjoyed it DM!
I'm a big fan of engine pains. Most were discarded eons ago, but they confine oil to the engine compartment and assist in cooling. I've been driving As since 1969 and love your videos.
You're right. I have a stack of them that just got powder coated. Need to start putting them on the cars.
Excellent tutorial again Paul😎👍🏼
I miss the ‘simple’ workings of the older motors…… even quirky!😂
Good thing you decided to check everything. Imagine how much of a bummer it would have been to replace the engine and still have the same problem.
Yep!
Another great video Paul. Glad to see the engine is good and the oil in the muffler cleared.
Told you! And, you probably noticed I honored your wishes. It was running so long, I had to cut the whole carb swap part anyway.
@@ModelA you were right. I did notice and thank you.
Since you mentioned it, now and last time. We purchased 2 if those head lamps, they are great, THANKS.
Glad you like them!
Alright! Glad the motor is not the issue. Also great through the engine bay intro shot 😎
Sometimes, a plan just works out
You and Tina are a dynamic couple. Both of you have a terrific sense of humor and can still make each other laugh and that is heartwarming. Enjoy your channel immensely. I am an American living in south Vietnam but will be returning to the US in two weeks and need a car and have been seriously considering buying a model A. Thanks for the entertainment, your knowledge, and expertise.☮️
Thank you Russell! I hope you do get to buy a Model A!
This car is going to turn out a winner in your hands! Thank you!
I think so too!
I knew it, I knew it!!
I knew it Paul that you’ll figure it out!!
You da man!!
Love your tech/informational videos🤙🏼
Aloha, Malama Pono to you and Tina!! 🙏🏼
Aloha!
Hi Paul & Tina! Congrats!!!! Gandalf (Gandolf? Gandolph?) THE GREEN ..... LIVES! Celebrate! Thanks for the video. :)
Great endings !!!
In my eyes for 92 years old that car is perfect
We hope to make it perfecter
Great video as always! I think that you just had to blow out that oil residue that caked up in there. I would suggest getting a new muffler like you said, because the one that is on it currently has probably gotten penetrated by oil.
Hey, at least it won't rust! Haha!! Yea, ultimately, if we keep this, it will get a new muffler
I got one of the head lights and it is great. I'm like the three guys in Canada. I now want a Model A after watching yours and Astra Werke channels. I am looking for a Railway Express Agency truck for my Model A
Nice!
I use maniseal on manifolds as it can take the heat better
You guys are outstanding, very well organized, easy to understand the procedure to follow on each repair to the point that anyone mechanically inclined can go to do the repair real easy, while fixing the starter you call it persuasion, we call it technical taps, blessings to you guys, from the endless summer paradise Puerto Rico Jesus Torres.
"Technical Taps"!! nice
@@ModelA most kind of you, blessings to you and your love ones, from the endless summer paradise Puerto Rico Jesus Torres. You guys are great
Great tricks for keeping your Model A runnin'. Gandolf the great is lookin better all the time. When you replace the top will you/ should you replace all the old wood? I've seen the wood kits, they look fantastic. With little fiss it goes togethet pretty well. Lookin' forwatd to seeing every segment. Hey...... Model "T"! Your work on Gandolf shows, it's becoming a very pretty vehicle.
3:02 - Absolutely hilarious! You two are a hoot.
We're two hooters! Wait...
One of the best penetrants I have used is Kroil. It’s expensive but good. As one person mentioned 50/50 mix of acetone and automatic transmission fluid works too but beware it WILL damage any paint it touches
Yep. Bandsaw is better
That turned out ok 👍 perhaps when you do the top you could / would you explain why Ford didn’t make a sealed metal top? I’ve replaced one and thought it could have been done more simply
Last I heard, it was because of the insulation for winter and makes it cooler in summer. But still no confirmation of that.
I've had good luck using a 50/50 mixture of acetone and automatic transmission fluid on seized bolts. After soaking them with this mixture for a few days, I can usually get them to turn.
Great tip!
Last bolt I had that didn't budge, I used a 5ft pipe on a breaker bar and slowly applied pressure until it broke loose. If you snap the head off, you can just drill and tap a new hole 🙂
Yep
Happy to see you cleaned your workbench, more room than the last time you used it. I can't judge, mine is worse. Thanks for the videos, I share them with the Cuesta Crankers.
There is way too much stuff in the works to fully clear it
@@ModelA Roger That!
Paul, i was thinking.....try to weld a bolt on the stuck bolt and you will probably get it loose.
My friend Dave wants to try that. I'm gonna let him!
I’m going to have to pick up a new bench battery cover/starter holder. 😀 Great ideal.
Once in a while, the stuff I find routine is new to someone else. That's what sharing ideas is all about, man!
Curious what is the most miles you have known one of these engines to have on it ? Are they good for over 100k miles ? Thanks Paul I enjoy all your vids.
I know one with close to 100K on it.
Удачи, Пол! Этот Форд проще, чем современный автомобиль, напичканный электроникой. Поэтому всё получится.
Good luck, Paul! This Ford is simpler than a modern car stuffed with electronics. Therefore, everything will work out.
Just imagine how many miles the mosquito fogger would have gone until clearing! Thanks for all the entertaining and enlightening videos. The short bolt...
Good question! Probably far enough to get pulled over by a cop and impounded as a "gross polluter".
Back in the bad old days there was an add-on kit that you could fit to lawnmowers that would inject DDT into the exhaust pipe.
Ir we only knew then what we know now...
I think you should've changed out that muffler to glass pack and made Gandolph into a hot rod. Add chrome wheels, lowered suspension, and do a chop top. Ok, the Ghost of Henry Ford will haunt me the rest of my days for that joke.
Because we're friends, I'll ignore your momentary lapse of judgement!
@@ModelA lol, thanks! I'm in a lot of groups that love doing things like that. I weep.
Paul, great videos. On that frozen bolt in your starter, if you weld a nut to the top of it, oftentimes it will come out with an impact. Looked like the bolt was already ruined anyway.
Thanks for the info! Yea, it's ruined already.
I’ve done that trick successfully. I think the concentrated heat of the welder helps break it loose.
Good going, no more mosquitoes 🦟 killing with that muffler. You’ll have to buy the mosquito spray in a can like everyone else does.
Dangit
Yaaaaay…! Another model a on the road..! ☺️ and those leaky tops. Fixed that by welding in a cut out ribbed roof from an old truck. However most will probably hate me for it. But hey that’s the things I do for a living
I have seen it done, and I like it!
@@ModelA absolutely you and I both..! I hope you and your wonderful wife. Mrs. T. “Tina” are doing great..! Been off the UA-cam for awhile busy time of year now that the weather is nice In western Pennsylvania and Everyone wants there care restored all of the sudden. 🤦🏻♂️lol. Have a great time in Texas you 2..!
Every video I see of this car makes me want it more
Come take it for a spin when it's safe to drive
Neat old coupe. Sounds great with no muffler. I know your busy but could you do a video about the steering boxes? 2 tooth vs 7 tooth, adjustments etc. Maybe you have and I missed it. Lot's of mis- information out there on them. Would be great to have your dad in it.
Get a butane torch, heat the bolt and it should come off. If that don't get it done, Big hammer.
Delighted to see it wasn’t anything serious!
Me too. It still bugs me knowing I didn't pronounce your name properly.
@@ModelA The truth is, I always have to say it really clearly for people who are trying to write it down. Now I don't really know how to say it normally any more. But I will do a video on how to say it - just for you :)
@@StefanMarjoram Ha ha! Thanks! You could work it into a normal video at the beginning or end by saying "Hello. Stefan Marjoram here with another tip on how to draw..." Nobody would know except us.
My husband uses aero kroil on all frozen bolts and nuts, he has used this penetrate for 38 years. Maybe you should get a can and try it. You can find it on Amazon
I have some. Should have tried that before I stripped the heck out of that bolt. Drat.
That is a nice multimeter you have,
Just a Simpson. Lots of them around!
Excellent video as usual Paul!! Very interested in the top replacement when you do it. My coupe needs the same procedure along with replacing some of the wood at the back of the cab. Do you know yet If Gandolf will need repairs to that extent? Thanks again for what you do my friend.
Don't know yet: This is as far as I have gotten
Lesson learned... if it smokes, just let it run for 30 minutes. 😉 Thanks very much for the video. ✅
Hahahahaa! Yes!
Paul I think it requires a new muffler for this car. Thanks for this video it appears to me to be a good model A coup.
Thanks Robert
Paul, after seeing this episode of the oil problem, I think I know why there was so much oil in the muffler. RUST PREVENTION ( I think). haha
oil keeps the Pack Rats from building a nest in there.
Haha!
Have you worked on any 32 model B? I would be surprised if you hadn't. But my Grandfather got a B in the late 40's and couldn't keep up with traffic. So my Dad put a 46ish Flat head 8 in it, and I'm now the maintenance guy for this Transplant!! It's been a good learning curve!!
Hopefully you are doing better health wise!!
All the best from Surrey BC Canada
I have. But not with a V8 in it
Paul, you made a thorough analysis of all Gandalf’s clues and uncovered the solution to the problem. Sherlock Holmes would be proud of you!
Thanks Jay!
Great job, the car looks great the way it sits gives it some character. Don't throw that Uncle Sam poster away. Have a safe trip when you go to Texas, they don't know how to drive out here.
Thanks Mark
Nice job Paul, it would have been easy to condemn the engine based on what we saw. Long live Gandalf!
Thanks Duncan!
as this was a really good informative vids as you knw im good at fixing older cars like the model As as i knew thiswas my good knowledge on fords was really getting there as i liked the model As as thiswas my knowledge was am gettting better as a Autisic person im good on cars and i knew what to fix on them as i read up on this subject all my life now as you knew being Autisic was no barrier to fixing cars as im smarter thiswas my Autisic traits was fixing cars as im a future drag racer too thiswas my fun with cars as im getting my car licences in future things was are getting better for me now as i have my nicer cars in future as you knew im good at fixing cars as i really do like fixing cars up as im a disabled person im good at fixing cars as far i knew in my new house im going to have a good sized shed in future as you are my good hero in this stuff mate as i had watched your vids really learnt alot in this stuff now as you knew im getting there in my car fixing skills as you knew im Autitisc in my life was being able to work on cars was my outlet thiswas really the case for me now as i really loved fixin my cars as you are aware im gotten really knowledageable in my cars as you see mate im getting there in future as i likd being under the hood of a car and fixin thiings thats needs the fixing as i knew what needs the fixing in my cars i will collect in future as i knew you and model t was all my good car fixing heroes as you are my good shop teacher on the cars i will collect in future as you knew im good at fixin the cars as im good at it now as i knew thiswas my future mate
Paul, I love your videos and I always follow you, I ask you a question, I have a 1929 roadster with the original carburetor, but every once in a while when it heats up in the summer, it starts to fail, I wet the carburetor and it runs normally again, there is something that Can I do to prevent it from overheating? Thank you very much, greetings from Argentina
Another great video Paul, I look forward to each and every one. I'm curious about the starter bolt lengths. The starter flange thickness is the same at all 3 points, so why would there need to be long an short bolts? When I installed a freshly rebuilt starter a few months ago, all 3 bolts where the same length. There is no interference with the flywheel. Thanks!
Then all 3 of your bolts were the correct length. The kits I have from Sac Vintge include 2 bolts that are long enough to press against the flywheel.
@@ModelA Thanks Paul. Looking forward to seeing Gandolf on the road!
Interesting problem, wonder how it happened.
Another great video! So glad the engine is ok! Now, how did all that oil end in the muffler? 🤔Have a great day, cheers from Italy! 😊
The previous owner pouring oil into the old motor trying to free it up
@@ModelA Oh,jeez.. 🤦♂️ Have a great day!
Heat up bolt (if you didnt cut off already)on starter
Tried that. had to cut it.
All Model As are worth saving…….
1950 dad and I could have a 32roadsr conv pick up v8 running at scrap yard dad said it smoked not worth 35$ they cut it up for iron 😢
How did the replacing of the starter stop the oil smoke?
Watch again. It helped by getting the motor started to troubleshoot
Does more of the raddley puttering sound of a Model A come from the exhaust or the sound of engine? I'm wondering if a comparison of a quiet car motor versus a loud lawn mower engine
Good question. Sort of a combination. The flathead motor sound adds to the low compression sound adds to the long stroke sound adds to the tapered muffler sound adds to the open carb sound adds....
So why was the compression so low? Was the engine turning too slow?
I have a 1928 model, and it won't start when it is warm. Do you have suggestions for me. It starts when the vehicle is cold but not when it all warmed up.
It could be any number of things. Is there a club near you? Need to get some eyeballs on it
What engine rpm do you get if you floor the gas pedal in neutral gear?
No idea
Is there a gasket between the starter and the starter switch?
Early cars, yes. Later cars, no.
You need to take it down the road and get some exhaust pressure going to clear out the oil for the very last bit of it. I may have missed it from an earlier video but what are the plans for Gandolph? You going to keep it or is it "promised" to someone lucky?
Nothing in concrete
You said not to use a gasket, which absolutely makes sense in regard to the electrical connection. Did Ford use a gasket in first place? Why are retro gaskets sold?
I don't know, and I don't know.
Like anything good, I'm surprised that CARB hasn't banned the use of aromatic hydrocarbons like Kroil & Blaster! Maybe I'm a combustion krazed rat, but I like the smell of such stuff. Okay, I'm missing brain cells because of the...the...what was I saying?
You were saying that you love the . . . umm szzzz
👍👍
There never seems to be auto generated closed captions on your videos. Is there something you need to apply when you edit the videos ?
I have no idea. I'm still learning this UA-cam stuff. Do you know how to do it?
@@ModelA Sorry, I don't.
Do you rebuild the starters yourself, or is there a shop that does it? Glad to see that all that old oil finally burned off the muffler.
My dad and me both rebuild them. However, the Model A parts suppliers also provide a rebuild service. I don't know who they have do them
How did the starter cause the oil like that
It did not. Watch again
De Paul Shane like your videos and I stay up late at night watching them and a Gandolf the green coat I was wondering how far you are on that and are you going to sell it and what kind of rice is it gonna be my name is Mark Townson I’ve had interest since my dad had 1929 pick ups sedan and roadster and other cars thank you for yourThank you for your videos and I hope you’re well and your wife is well too take care Mark Townsend
Hi Mark. Gandalf if moving along slowly. It might be done by the end of the year. There is already someone for whom the car is spoken.