Great video. Long time Panerai enthusiast with a 112, 210 and 392 and I really appreciated the balanced, authentic review with this vid. Nice work bud.
Well done. I’ve owned a PAM 422 since 2015. I absolutely love the 1950 case with the domed sapphire and case’s lines are both minimalistic and aesthetically beautiful for me. What sets this one apart from many Panerai is when put at the right angle, rhe domed sapphire Crystal refracts the light in such a way as to make the rose gold hands look emblazoned and almost levitate above the sandwich dial. Adding to that is the distortion on the lower portion of the crystal as well so when put together, it produces a unique beauty I’ve yet seen replicated in other watch brands and even most other Panerai although I’d think any Panerai with an overtly domed crystal and rose gold hands should yield the same. In any case, I’ve just stated recently wearing it again as my DSSD is going in for a service and the Panerai is pulling on my heart strings just as it did the day I bought…it makes me smile when set my gaze upon it. From the cushioned case and contoured lines to the rose gold hand, domed crystal sandwich dial, it all comes together in a simplistic piece that exudes heritage & and beauty. In short…I love my 422
People couldn’t find anything bad to say except the ETA movement, but they forget that even Rolex used an ETA movement (valjoux 72 chrono) at one point and they used a zenith movement
BINGO. Since when have ETA movements become worthless? Proven, reliable, easily adjusted, and easy to find a watchmaker to service. These brands always modify the ETA movements they source.
I just love the distinctive Panerai design, it is iconic and unmistakable. I have a Radiomir PAM183 with the highly modified and decorated eta movement which mimics the original 1930s Rolex movement with its architecture and custom bridges. It is a joy to behold through the large sapphire case back. The watch exudes style, quality and class and is one of the few in my collection which will never be sold but handed down through the family.
I have a Luminor 111 bought about 15 years ago. Also a 44mm Submersible and a 2023 45mm Radiomir blue dial that looks amazing. I really enjoy them. I have other brands (Rolex, Cartier, Breitling) but I wear Panerai the most.
I gave my dad a 111 years ago and he hasn't taken it off since. Sandwich dial, hand wound, exhibition case back, running seconds. Love everything about it. The 6497 movement is rock solid, cheap to service and in my opinion, better looking than the 8 days.
Panerai are an example of good, timeless design. In architecture and design schools we are taught that form follows function. And so do Panerai watches, perhaps not always in the most gracious manners, but at least honestly and successfully. I enjoyed your video and point of view; thanks.
Panerai has a very distinctive appearance that makes it immediately recognizable. The case design and a durable movement, make it for me, worth the price. Premium watches need to "speak" to the buyer's personality and tastes and Panerai watches do that very well.
Panerai watches are distinctive, you know a Panerai by it’s design and there is absolutely no watch that has any of it’s models cues which no other brand can claim. Love Panerai and they should absolutely raise the price of their watches to make or harder to acquire.
They are distinctive and cool looking but that’s where it ends. I find them vastly overpriced already for what they offer. They’ve also got some shady tactics and history when it comes to claiming movements as in-house and so on. I think they’d do a lot better when priced like a Tudor.
I recently purchased a PAM0048...a 40 mm case. Just what I was looking for being my wrist is on the small side. Regardless of size one can tell a Panerai from a mile away.
Personally I don’t like them or their design, but, Panerai has a heritage and a reason to exist and a reason for its iconic design. Hublot is just an expensive watch with absurd design aimed at people who are not watch savvy. Good thing Panerai is getting its in house movement.
Fair opinion! I love their aesthetic because it’s just so unique. I’d only have one Panerai tho since I don’t think you get a Panerai for much else other than their design. Hublot would need a whole new line of watches just purely targeted towards watch enthusiasts with great in house movements and value for money in order to get anyone interested
The biggest problem Hublot is that they are fashion watches that are not really that good looking are not really well made, finished, and unGodly priced. They will not appreciate in price, they are what's left of Movado. The other problem is that Nico hates them. If he ever saw you wearing them he would bash you senseless.
@standardtime The ETA movement in a sub-3k watch is correct. I got my PAM0001 A-Series way back in '98 (New) for 2450 USD list + tax. The T-SWISS-T and low numbers (along with rareness/popularity) drive the price (as you know). These at one point commanded just under $20k USD (or a potentially 1000% increase in value) Funny world, watches. Great vid!
Just picked up my first Rolex so it will probably be while before I splurge on a Panerai but every time I have seen one in person I really like them and hope to own one some time in the future. Don’t care anyone’s opinions as I probably won’t sell it anyway it will be for me and maybe my kid when they grow up
Congrats on your new Rolex acquisition 👊. I think Panerais are some of the most distinctive pieces and that on its own makes them pretty cool. There’s not much else in their preowned price range that’s quite so unique looking. Happy hunting :)
With so many brands (omega) just building hacks of Rolex designs, it’s nice to see something outside the box. The story/ history w/ the Rolex partnership is also interesting.
I love the look, design and style of the Luminor, a few Radiomir, and not so much the Submersible. Some of the newer models with the starburst blue and green dials look great. I like their font and sandwich dials. I'd like to add one to my collection but it's not too high on the wishlist. Would have to be the right deal to pull the trigger on a purchase.
I love the aesthetics of Panerai. I think it’s so different to everything else. Sandwich dials are nice too! I’ve been thinking about getting one as well but maybe in a year. Preowned only ofcourse.
@@StandardTime same but in a few years after a few more Rolex in hand. Got a connection with my AD so I have to save to be ready to buy at retail when I get the call. He promised a few datejust and another Sub or other sports model by Christmas. Really buttering him up for a GMT, but he said unlikely. I gave him such a nice thank you gift after he let me get my Kermit that he said, "I'm in"!
Interestingly from the panerai watches that I’ve seen online I always thought they were ugly, but after seeing one in person they truly are something else, the sandwich dial really pops, and it looks like a tank of a watch… another unpopular opinion, I don’t mind hublot, after all of the ads I’ve been in, the two that stood out to me were hublot and Richard Mille, the 3 hublot ads I’ve been in were all super nice and spoke about many different watches, including Rolex, the Rolex ads all just put a watch in front of you and that’s it, while I prefer Rolex watches, the customer experience is so much better at hublot
I’m interested to get hands on with the Big Bang Unico because that movement is proprietary and it seems to be very high quality. I have gotten hands on with RM and I love them even though they’re so wildly overpriced. Rolex customer experience is definitely so very off putting in comparison to every other brand, I agree ☝️
Hublot gets a lot of hate but they are doing good business and are actually pretty innovative. I think they have like a 14 day power reserve on one of their watches
@@WatchUnwind yeah, I don’t remember the model but I tried it on the other day, I was most surprised by how thin it was considering it had a 14 day power reserve, but if memory serves correctly it’s a manual wind, not automatic, which I thought was a shame, it was a great looking watch, very Richard mille esque, but yeah, like I said in my comment, they had wayyyy better customer service than Rolex, I was literally laughed at for wanting to look at a watch they had in the window, ( they said we don’t have any ss watches) and I said there’s one right there lol, and the scoffed and got it out for me
@@durra4203 haha yeah Rolex customer service can definitely be something else. I was lucky enough to get my hands on an OP 41 like two weeks ago but it wasn’t easy
@@WatchUnwind that’s awesome, congratulations, which colour did you go for ? I was on the waiting list for an op 41 myself but as time progressed I was sick of waiting and ended up with a black bay 58 lol
If it weren’t for the hype around the Daytona, does nearly $20k CAD sound like good value for a steel automatic chronograph? No, not at all. The problem with this is hobby is a watch’s “worth” is measured by resale value on forums. I’ve sold all my Rolex watches and I’ve been having a blast buying, selling, and trading IWCs and Panerai lately. These are both “niche” brands. Either you get their design language or you don’t. They aren’t for everyone. I have a PAM1335 (45mm Rad) and a PAM654 (Luminor 1950s flyback chrono). They are just really cool watches and super fun to wear. I don’t have a big wrist, just shy of 7”, but they wear really well. I love ‘em…
I disagree on the enthusiast brand. The reason why panerai is an enthusiasts brand is because of its history, community and big cases with ETA/Sellita movements. I don't believe any traditional panerai enthusiasts love the new "in-house" Valfleurier movements that are also in IWC, Cartier, Piaget etc.
The ETA 6497-2 movement is awesome and Panarai does decorate it in the models I have seen. To me, the watch value is only a few thousand dollars. A great watch that is over-priced.
Since when are ETA movements bad? They are extremely proven and reliable. They can easily be regulated to COSC spec. They are not simply buying an off the shelf ETA movement and dropping it in the watch. All these brands usually heavily modify ETA movements they source. Maybe I’m in the minority, but I think this whole “in house movement” talk is merely a marketing buzzword and pissing match. These brands want “in house” movements so you are limited to using them for service.
I kind of agree but I feel like its kind of a minimum when a brand asks for more than 2k for a watch. Otherwise, I see micro brands doing more intriguing stuff with the case and dial in terms of finishing, material choice and unique designs.
Great video. Long time Panerai enthusiast with a 112, 210 and 392 and I really appreciated the balanced, authentic review with this vid. Nice work bud.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just bought a 392! What’s your thoughts on people hating on it for not being 44mm?
Well done. I’ve owned a PAM 422 since 2015. I absolutely love the 1950 case with the domed sapphire and case’s lines are both minimalistic and aesthetically beautiful for me. What sets this one apart from many Panerai is when put at the right angle, rhe domed sapphire Crystal refracts the light in such a way as to make the rose gold hands look emblazoned and almost levitate above the sandwich dial. Adding to that is the distortion on the lower portion of the crystal as well so when put together, it produces a unique beauty I’ve yet seen replicated in other watch brands and even most other Panerai although I’d think any Panerai with an overtly domed crystal and rose gold hands should yield the same.
In any case, I’ve just stated recently wearing it again as my DSSD is going in for a service and the Panerai is pulling on my heart strings just as it did the day I bought…it makes me smile when set my gaze upon it. From the cushioned case and contoured lines to the rose gold hand, domed crystal sandwich dial, it all comes together in a simplistic piece that exudes heritage & and beauty. In short…I love my 422
I have many watches but when I wear my Panerai 380 it puts a smile on my face
People couldn’t find anything bad to say except the ETA movement, but they forget that even Rolex used an ETA movement (valjoux 72 chrono) at one point and they used a zenith movement
People seem to have forgotten the entire history of watchmaking and the trends arising from it.
BINGO.
Since when have ETA movements become worthless? Proven, reliable, easily adjusted, and easy to find a watchmaker to service. These brands always modify the ETA movements they source.
I just love the distinctive Panerai design, it is iconic and unmistakable.
I have a Radiomir PAM183 with the highly modified and decorated eta movement which mimics the original 1930s Rolex movement with its architecture and custom bridges. It is a joy to behold through the large sapphire case back.
The watch exudes style, quality and class and is one of the few in my collection which will never be sold but handed down through the family.
I'd never buy any Hublot and any price. There's several Panerai I'd love to own.
Yeah that seems about right from an enthusiast’s perspective!
I have a Luminor 111 bought about 15 years ago. Also a 44mm Submersible and a 2023 45mm Radiomir blue dial that looks amazing. I really enjoy them. I have other brands (Rolex, Cartier, Breitling) but I wear Panerai the most.
I gave my dad a 111 years ago and he hasn't taken it off since. Sandwich dial, hand wound, exhibition case back, running seconds. Love everything about it. The 6497 movement is rock solid, cheap to service and in my opinion, better looking than the 8 days.
Panerai are an example of good, timeless design. In architecture and design schools we are taught that form follows function. And so do Panerai watches, perhaps not always in the most gracious manners, but at least honestly and successfully. I enjoyed your video and point of view; thanks.
Panerai has a very distinctive appearance that makes it immediately recognizable. The case design and a durable movement, make it for me, worth the price. Premium watches need to "speak" to the buyer's personality and tastes and Panerai watches do that very well.
Well said! I really appreciate them for their distinctiveness in a world of similar looking watches.
Panerai watches are distinctive, you know a Panerai by it’s design and there is absolutely no watch that has any of it’s models cues which no other brand can claim. Love Panerai and they should absolutely raise the price of their watches to make or harder to acquire.
They are distinctive and cool looking but that’s where it ends. I find them vastly overpriced already for what they offer. They’ve also got some shady tactics and history when it comes to claiming movements as in-house and so on. I think they’d do a lot better when priced like a Tudor.
@@StandardTimenot in the same league as Tudor…
I recently purchased a PAM0048...a 40 mm case. Just what I was looking for being my wrist is on the small side. Regardless of size one can tell a Panerai from a mile away.
I love my fer0011 Ferrari Panerai, a solid and great looking watch.
Panerai started using in house movements in 2002 btw.
Ah I see! Just read up on this, thanks! I thought it’s cool how they used to name the calibre after the year of development back then.
I love them have 3 waiting for No 4
they're super cool looking :)
@@StandardTimeup date I have 5 now oops lol
Personally I don’t like them or their design, but, Panerai has a heritage and a reason to exist and a reason for its iconic design. Hublot is just an expensive watch with absurd design aimed at people who are not watch savvy. Good thing Panerai is getting its in house movement.
Fair opinion! I love their aesthetic because it’s just so unique. I’d only have one Panerai tho since I don’t think you get a Panerai for much else other than their design.
Hublot would need a whole new line of watches just purely targeted towards watch enthusiasts with great in house movements and value for money in order to get anyone interested
THE DESIGN OF THE CASE IS WHAT MAKES PAM
The biggest problem Hublot is that they are fashion watches that are not really that good looking are not really well made, finished, and unGodly priced. They will not appreciate in price, they are what's left of Movado.
The other problem is that Nico hates them. If he ever saw you wearing them he would bash you senseless.
@standardtime The ETA movement in a sub-3k watch is correct. I got my PAM0001 A-Series way back in '98 (New) for 2450 USD list + tax. The T-SWISS-T and low numbers (along with rareness/popularity) drive the price (as you know). These at one point commanded just under $20k USD (or a potentially 1000% increase in value) Funny world, watches. Great vid!
Just picked up my first Rolex so it will probably be while before I splurge on a Panerai but every time I have seen one in person I really like them and hope to own one some time in the future. Don’t care anyone’s opinions as I probably won’t sell it anyway it will be for me and maybe my kid when they grow up
Congrats on your new Rolex acquisition 👊. I think Panerais are some of the most distinctive pieces and that on its own makes them pretty cool. There’s not much else in their preowned price range that’s quite so unique looking. Happy hunting :)
With so many brands (omega) just building hacks of Rolex designs, it’s nice to see something outside the box. The story/ history w/ the Rolex partnership is also interesting.
Great video. I've been looking for a 001 for a while. It is definitely not a swatch snob brand; it is more of a brotherhood I think.
I love Panerai.
I love the look, design and style of the Luminor, a few Radiomir, and not so much the Submersible. Some of the newer models with the starburst blue and green dials look great. I like their font and sandwich dials. I'd like to add one to my collection but it's not too high on the wishlist. Would have to be the right deal to pull the trigger on a purchase.
I love the aesthetics of Panerai. I think it’s so different to everything else. Sandwich dials are nice too! I’ve been thinking about getting one as well but maybe in a year. Preowned only ofcourse.
@@StandardTime same but in a few years after a few more Rolex in hand. Got a connection with my AD so I have to save to be ready to buy at retail when I get the call. He promised a few datejust and another Sub or other sports model by Christmas. Really buttering him up for a GMT, but he said unlikely. I gave him such a nice thank you gift after he let me get my Kermit that he said, "I'm in"!
@@libertyv5426 That's awesome. Fingers crossed he surprises you with the GMT :)
PAM00001 Tritium dial either A (#/1,500) or early B (#/3,000) series. If 1999 B. What a watch to choose to show when illustrating the Luminor line 👏👏👏
Great time piece
love my panerai 423
Interestingly from the panerai watches that I’ve seen online I always thought they were ugly, but after seeing one in person they truly are something else, the sandwich dial really pops, and it looks like a tank of a watch… another unpopular opinion, I don’t mind hublot, after all of the ads I’ve been in, the two that stood out to me were hublot and Richard Mille, the 3 hublot ads I’ve been in were all super nice and spoke about many different watches, including Rolex, the Rolex ads all just put a watch in front of you and that’s it, while I prefer Rolex watches, the customer experience is so much better at hublot
I’m interested to get hands on with the Big Bang Unico because that movement is proprietary and it seems to be very high quality. I have gotten hands on with RM and I love them even though they’re so wildly overpriced. Rolex customer experience is definitely so very off putting in comparison to every other brand, I agree ☝️
Hublot gets a lot of hate but they are doing good business and are actually pretty innovative. I think they have like a 14 day power reserve on one of their watches
@@WatchUnwind yeah, I don’t remember the model but I tried it on the other day, I was most surprised by how thin it was considering it had a 14 day power reserve, but if memory serves correctly it’s a manual wind, not automatic, which I thought was a shame, it was a great looking watch, very Richard mille esque, but yeah, like I said in my comment, they had wayyyy better customer service than Rolex, I was literally laughed at for wanting to look at a watch they had in the window, ( they said we don’t have any ss watches) and I said there’s one right there lol, and the scoffed and got it out for me
@@durra4203 haha yeah Rolex customer service can definitely be something else. I was lucky enough to get my hands on an OP 41 like two weeks ago but it wasn’t easy
@@WatchUnwind that’s awesome, congratulations, which colour did you go for ? I was on the waiting list for an op 41 myself but as time progressed I was sick of waiting and ended up with a black bay 58 lol
Great job
My edc is an 0111.
I don't care what the masses say I really like the Hublot King Power line and think that their divers are really cool.
If it weren’t for the hype around the Daytona, does nearly $20k CAD sound like good value for a steel automatic chronograph? No, not at all. The problem with this is hobby is a watch’s “worth” is measured by resale value on forums.
I’ve sold all my Rolex watches and I’ve been having a blast buying, selling, and trading IWCs and Panerai lately. These are both “niche” brands. Either you get their design language or you don’t. They aren’t for everyone.
I have a PAM1335 (45mm Rad) and a PAM654 (Luminor 1950s flyback chrono). They are just really cool watches and super fun to wear. I don’t have a big wrist, just shy of 7”, but they wear really well. I love ‘em…
I disagree on the enthusiast brand. The reason why panerai is an enthusiasts brand is because of its history, community and big cases with ETA/Sellita movements. I don't believe any traditional panerai enthusiasts love the new "in-house" Valfleurier movements that are also in IWC, Cartier, Piaget etc.
The ETA 6497-2 movement is awesome and Panarai does decorate it in the models I have seen. To me, the watch value is only a few thousand dollars. A great watch that is over-priced.
I agree!
The 6497 series are a decent movement, but it's not a high end movement...interestingly the movement was commonly used in pocket watches.
@@MrSloika No, its not a high end movement but its big which makes it nice for engravers to show their skills. I like the movement and own several.
Nice! I bought my first Rolex from Ken's Watches in Wan Chai
Wow cool! Which one? And cheers on the new acquisition 🍻
Are you sure that the watch on your video is authentic?
Yep!
That's a nice piece, the tritium is starting to patina hard.
Yeah it’s getting a solid orange hue. I should’ve tested it with a UV light to see how much fluorescence remained.
Panerai has caught all kinds of crap from WIS so I don't see the point if this video. With that said, I love my Pam 574
That’s exactly the point of the video mate! You’ve just said it.
looks like (heh heh heh) a fair review. 13 mins on Panerai and 20 secs on Hublot. Ahh haa haa. Next time have the balls to do it the other way around.
all the big Swiss brands are too expensive. But that is the whole thing, status and prestige. Otherwise buy a swatch.
See Theo and Harris’s video on why Hublot is hated. That covers everything with Hublot better than I could, hence not repeated in this video.
Since when are ETA movements bad? They are extremely proven and reliable. They can easily be regulated to COSC spec. They are not simply buying an off the shelf ETA movement and dropping it in the watch. All these brands usually heavily modify ETA movements they source. Maybe I’m in the minority, but I think this whole “in house movement” talk is merely a marketing buzzword and pissing match. These brands want “in house” movements so you are limited to using them for service.
I kind of agree but I feel like its kind of a minimum when a brand asks for more than 2k for a watch. Otherwise, I see micro brands doing more intriguing stuff with the case and dial in terms of finishing, material choice and unique designs.
False comparison to begin with.
Panerai gets a pass ….. you sure ? ;)
Haha I like their design, pass from me :) Only preowned though!
@@StandardTime ;)
Because Hublot is garbage and Panerai is not. Very simple.
😂
Salve salve
Pan ruined it’s brand.
Yeah I don’t know what they’re doing...
Waste of money, get a Sub and call it a day.
Open and look at the movement finishing
The original panerai had a similar Rolex movement.
They had rolex movement and case