This is an old ass video but just something for all those still watching this to consider: most if not all the stuff on Loopop's wishlist at the beginning, even a sort of glide, can be achieved with a Beatstep Pro. The big difference is that the BSP completely bypasses the internal sequencer for pitch and volume information. The BSP itself is tuned chromatically which means you can achieve pitch quantization by patching BSP pitch out to DFAM pitch in. The BSP CV outputs and its sequencer work REALLY well with the DFAM. You can send pitch, gate and velocity information from BOTH(!!) sequencers to practically any patch point on the DFAM. You can even patch the DFAM's internal velocity and pitch to any other point you want and sequentially modulate the chosen patch point if the BSP is feeding it velocity/pitch information.
Nice, I'd imagine 0xi One or Hapax could help out here in spades as well. 0-Ctrl as well (though it's not chromatic). But the cost point is the main one for me. BSP is flat out more affordable then a skiff + power supply + 4 or 5 modules if you don't want to get sucked in like that to eurorack :)
If I had to pick a single moment when I went from simple DFAM owner to developing a fascination with modular, it was this video, perhaps in late December. ‘Twas a tipping point. Now I’m making music just about daily; spending too much; learning a new, ever-changing instrument; and scratching my itch. In short: joy. Thanks, man!
Semi-modulars do a terrific job of introducing folks to synthesis and patching. Playing with friends, even a small number of modules like in this video, unlocks semis and launches them straight into outer space. Excellent job here! You should do a video like this with all the popular semis!
Brilliant! Been using these tips as jumping off points for continued exploration of the DFAM and they've taken me to places that I never thought the DFAM capable of.
Looking for some comments on voltage compatibility with Moog semi modular synths and eurorack modules. Otherwise I can think of no better source for truly informative and expansive videos on matters of electronic music. Your really some kind of Saint, or sage; a spark of inspiration with true potential to inspire fire. Thanks for sharing your mojo.
Haha....That short sequence you are running at about 2:25 sounds a lot like the sound fx they used in the original Star Trek series for the heart rate monitor in sick bay! Fantastic!
I very much appreciate your perspective of using modular to enhance one's rig. I also appreciate your clear focus on mod example selection based on your previous review of the DFAM with simple, clear, but functional examples 👊
Loopop, you've answered my questions 👍🏽!! I purchased DFAM but I won't actually have it in my hands ontill another 2 weekends, so it's comforting to calm anxiety 😁😊 Thank you.
I am on the fence about buying the DFAM. I have a Behringer Neutron but i am not sure how i can patch it to behave like the DFAM does. Is that even possible? Perhaps i can keep my money then.
Can´t wait, i have only the LFOs on my minibrute, a German pedal I used to connect to my Rhodes, and a couple of buttons on my nErd Electro. i also have three whammy bars, which probably count. What's an LFO anyway, some kind of tremolo or vibrato for the synth elites? I know it's exactly that ;-)
At 3:29 you mentioned that it is possible to use other external sequencers to effect the pitch and tempo of the DFAM. The ones featured in this video appear to all be fully eurorack modules, so I was wondering if a semimodular unit like the Moog Grandmother would also work in this regard? Thank you for another very helpful and informative tutorial!
Yes, should work just fine! DFAM doesn't have MIDI inputs, so you'll need a MIDI to CV converter if you're using a regular MIDI sequencer, but Grandmother has CV and Gate outs, so you're good to go
Awesome thank you. So around the 4:20 mark you discuss quantizing. Would this also be possible to replace the Disting with the Grandmother as well? Seems like you could do something like “Gate Out” from Grandma (in the ARP/SEQ module) to the DFAM Trigger/Pitch In?
ahhh okay. got it. new to modular. played with a dfam. LOVED IT, but was wondering if there was an easier to dial in specific pitches... the more you know!
Magneto seems so cool but since everyone and there grandma is saying "it doesn't have enough CV control" maybe there will be an upgraded version in a few years and we will be sad if we buy one now ;)
Some very nice tricks there! I’m thinking of getting a case with a few modules including Disting. I presume I’d need an output module such as the tip top one you have there? It’d be going into an audio interface
C B Hi there Ziv and first of all, many, many thanks for your truly amazing videos - your knowledge, teaching ability/style and production standards are unrivalled. I notice that in your three tier Moog stand you have the Moog 60HP case mounted in the bottom tier for the Eurorack modules. Is there any chance that you could provide some summary notes on what power supply you installed and how? Many thanks.
Thanks for the kind words. I used uZeus from TipTop Audio. I'd also recommend taking a look at PolyEnd's "Anywhere" if you're interested in portability. The both just sit on the built in rails and have a flying bus board to which you connect your other modules. Both are built to handle way more modules that this can fit, but just to make sure watch my review of Anywhere to see how much power your modules use
as now I'm using only the quantizer algorithm with the DFAM, can you suggest to me another module that only does the same kind of quantization on the dfam?
tthanks for the video. i have tried with my dfam what you have explain at 1:36 (change the length of the sequencer by patch the pitch out with the tempo in) and i'll active only the first three step (putting the pitch at max value on the last five step) but seems that the step one of the three step don't sound. The sequencer is active but the first step seems quite mute. At the same time, once i've change again the length of the sequencer (from three step to two or at four step) the first step don't run again, so seems that are only one or three step on. Is there any problem with my dfam? do not know if I can explain myself well but hope you understand. thanks in advance for your answer.
lovetrademark thanks for the kind words - sorry I don’t understand what you’re doing wrong but just try and replicate what I do - nothing is hidden ;) I doubt something is wrong with your DFAM but maybe...?
Hi, the expert sleepers distancing module looks ace. My question is, what does the Expert Sleepers ES-8 do in this demo/tutorial? I'm a newbie to modular, so I hope my question is not too obvious :)
I bought a ridiculous amount of synth stuff while i was prisoner dureing covid... More money then brains. As it were. Im an electrician...drummer.guitar/bAss player. Thought i could ace the learning curve. NOT so easy.
hi loopop thanks for all the great vids. Do you know if its possible to shorten the sequences on the defam with the defam receiving clock? So for example sending my mother 32 time code from my computer via midi then sending this to my defam with say 6 steps that stay perfectly in time? Thanks
Nice Ziv.. Quick question: could be possible use DFAM in path from modular to daw and use it also for clocking al system? Any experience about? Maybe midi it's not the best way to sync, i know..
DFAM doesn’t have midi so you’ll need to find a way to convert analog clock to midi. Instinctively I’d it with VCV but there’s probably a product that solves this problem…
@@loopop yes, maybe you're right about midi, but for everyone that can spent 700/800€ i think that's not a big issue.. It's my hopinion obviously. I must check dfam's inputs, maybe could be possible to use a DC coupled output from audio interface to send a clock from ableton.. You're very kind as usual.
You made me change my mind about dfam. Would my Circuit Monostation pair well with it? I will need a quantizer as you nicely show to get some melody out of this thing. A bit scared to dive in Euro rack world.
Thanks! Only if you use the technique I show using another sequencer and give each step a different length. Or use a clock divider and sequential switch to use the top row rist and bottom row second, but that's a whole other story...
Why doesn't STRG + F find me any jokes about pitches? Very interesting, even after all this time! I wanted to play DFAM with a sequencer so I guess I have to tune every knob to C for it to work properly? Someone said CV pitch input would override the pitch knobs but the manual says otherwise ... is there an easier way to do it? Super intereseting that the Disting alone can make the DFAM so much more melodical! Thanks for reminding me :)
Great video as always! I guess you can do most of those tricks with a beatstep pro but wonder if its gate (10-12v) will fry the DFAM 🤔 would simple volume control audio cables work as voltage attenuators?
Hi, Great video as always but I am wondering: how do you connect your step sequencer with the dfam? It's not patched and the dfam doesn't have midi in (nor out, btw). Thanks
awesome video, thank you! one question please, I am getting the m32 and dfam as a starting point on my modular journey and was wondering about the rack, at first i thought the 2 tier would be nice, then I spotted the 3 tier, like you use here, which is great to add more modules, my question is , do you need an empty case to mount the modules in the third tier? many thanks
@@johnpalmermusic They have a 4 tier now as well, and uZeus is a great power option for that case (1 per case if you went 4 tier with say dfam, m32, and two empty skiff cases to fill with modular.
Love your videos, loopop. I have a DFAM and, sure enough, it is making me very curious about modular. Do you know whether the DFAM's Trigger Output can serve as a clock source for a Make Noise Rene? I feel like it should but the Rene manual says the clock input "width greater than 2.5 ms" while the DFAM manual says the trigger output is "roughly 1ms in width." Thank you!
Hi Matthew, I think it's possible to use an enveloppe generator to simulate a trigger-to-gate converter, A-140 from Doepfer can handle this. Anyway I think the Make Noise Rene will be fine with the DFAM clock
@@trapcodien Thanks. I went ahead and got a Rene, and if you (or anyone else who sees this) are interested, it works. The DFAM Trigger out serves as a clock source for a Make Noise Rene despite the width disparity. But that's not actually how I use it. Instead, I sampled the DFAM Trigger out with my Octatrack, and I send the sample out one of the Cue outs on the Octatrack to serve as a clock source for one Rene channel. This is cool because it allows me to do weird irregular clock patterns depending on where I place triggers on that track of the Octatrack. I can even do boutique swings using the retrigger and retrigger time functions on the Octatrack. Moreover, I can clock a second Rene channel with the other Cue out, either using a second Octatrack track or with the same Octatrack track depending on my parameter lock on the Balance setting on the Amp page of the track (since the clocks originate from the Cue left and right).
Wow great vid. I am new to synthesis and I have a dfam what other modules in your opinion should I start with. I love the way you coupled yours with the dfam. Did you convert an empty dfam case into a rack. I appreciate your help
Thanks! No I didn’t empty a DFAM, Moog sells these cases. Regarding where to start - with research and your needs :) don’t listen to recommendations from others
@@loopop I knew you was going to say that lol..but you are right I'm just bamboozled by the choices . I'm just beginning and it's just a new hobby at the mo. Having fun learning the jargon and How it all works
Bro thank you so much for always putting out the highest quality reviews and tutorials. Quick question.. is there another way other than eurorack to quantize the DFAM? Any semi-modular options that come to mind? Wondering if patching it to a Mother or to a Minibrute 2S could make this possible. Still new to semi-mod & modular
I'm not sure if the mother 32 or Minibrute would do that (possibly) but the korg sq1 is an inexpensive option that can send quantized pitches... A surprisingly powerful yet simple and intuitive sequencer which is affordable new and abundant and cheap second hand. Enjoy
Hi loopop! Your videos are extremely helpful and thanks for all of your hard work! I would appreciate it if you could please clarify one important point. In the back of the DFAM, there is an audio output. Are the modules being layered into the audio output of the Moog DFAM into your audio interface, or is the sound from the DFAM coming out of the VCA into the ES-8 and the sound ends up through the USB connector into the DAW? I am confused based on the cable set-up in that I do not see a separate audio mixer (i.e. ALM Tangle Quartet Eurorack module) where a 1/8in to 1/4in TRS cable converter is used. Thanks for your help!
Hey - I don't know which point in the video you're referring to, but the same audio comes out both the VCA output in the front and the line audio in the back (probably different levels)
@@loopop Hey loopop! Around the point where you show how to map the Disting Mk4 with the DFAM for quantization. So, I gather that the Disting is quantizing the output sound of the DFAM, and the final sound is being sent out from the back of the DFAM's audio output. Is that correct? Also, in this case, what is the purpose of the VCA output from the DFAM being inputted into the ES-8? Thanks for the clarification!
@@Tidewater500 I need a specific timeline to be sure, but DISTING doesn’t quantize audio, it quantizes control voltage. My guess is es 8 is just acting as an audio interface into a computer
@@loopop Awesome. Yes, it all makes sense now. The point of reference is 4:20. Earlier I was just confused where the final audio source would go after the control voltage was quantized. On different Eurorack rigs, some sound designers have an audio mixer module in which the instruments are outputted from their VCA ports into the mixer. This might be useful if trying to combine / layer the DFAM with a Subharmonicon and only have one output signal instead of two separate channels. After I get my Eurorack parts in the mail, I will try the appropriate configurations. I just wanted to make sure that I understood how the components operated before purchasing them and making unnecessary mistakes; however, as I have learned before, with systems like these, it is best to try them out directly instead of solely relying on a theoretical approach. Thank you for your help loopop! I will be more than happy to support your work with a donation. Keep up the good work with your reviews and instructional series!
Nice vid, do you have reccomendations for newbies who start out with the dfam as there first modular? I think the mother-32 is a good match, but what modules would you recommend to put in the limited space of the moog case, that would extend the mother 32 and the dfam? The Disting from expert sleepers? or maybe Maths from Makenoise? An amp to get output and headphones connected (Black Output from erica seems nice, but is very wide)?
h ag thanks! My top recommendation for first module is ES-8 from Expert Sleepers, if you’re open to the idea of trying out modules in software form - this will help you figure out exactly what modules you need. Please watch my Hybrid Modular video for more info. Maths is nice but will take up a lot of space. Try the modules in virtual form in VCVRack and then buy the ones you want in physical form. Makes sense?
Hey bud! I am really happy with your videos. Very informative and really helped me originally to understand synthesis and tricks with the Mother 32. I just purchased the DFAM though don’t have enough to get a eurorack yet. Any tips on how I can achieve this kinda parasonic sound with just the Mother32 and DFAM? I also have a subsequent 37. But I really don’t know how to hook it up the set up and perhaps have it trigger the DFAM and Mother32. Still learning
I think I understand the connection from Sub37 to M32. MIDI cable of MIDI out. I've never connected the DFAM to the M32. M32 has Assign, Gate, KB, or Assign OUTPUTS. DFAM has Tempo, Trigger or Clock IMPUTS. Sorry for the beginner question. Just trying not to fried the 2 Moogs. What would Imput / Outputs would you use to run the DFAM from M32.
loopop OK great! Thanks for getting back to me I’ll check these out. I’m fairly new to modular so I don’t want to start off with something too complicated. 👍🏽
Trovarsi - check out the Intellijel uScale II. It's pretty simple to use and has a secondary output which you can set to an interval. So you could, for example, bring the pitch out of DFAM into uScale II, send quantized pitch 1 (root) to VCO 1 IN, and quantized pitch + 7 semitones (fifth) to VCO 2 IN.
Started to freak out thinking I need a Disting (quantizing as demonstrated here) for my DFAMily but then I thought about the WM Eloquencer I have on the way...that should suffice for all my quantizing/sequencing needs, right?
*can I use the DFAM on the drum track of my beat step pro? I'm new to analog synths and have no idea what I'm doing. But that seems like a good idea. So on my beatstep pro I have a behringer 2600 on track 1, a Neutron on track 2 and a DFAM on the drum track*
Responder Music yes this one. By either modulating tempo or using an external sequencer. I know it’s not as good as having the feature on board but hopefully better than nothing
hi! thanks for the video I bought a dfam a while ago, and I like it a lot, but what is such a shame is that you can't skip steps easily i sync it with logic (via midi tot a doepfer msy2) and then patch it in the ADV/clock is there a way you can keep it in sync an only use for instance 5 steps (the technique you demonstrate doesn't allow to sync but only in stand alone mode...) almost criminal you can't skip steps (I'm into polyrhythms :) ) I hope you can help thanks so much nico
Does it really shorten the sequence by just speeding up the tempo in the audio rate? I mean I know it sounds like it but would it eventually get out of phase with a metronome?
Probably this is a very basic question but can you tell us how you fitted those modules to the Moog stand? How did you get the same wood panels and also how are the modules get power?
Sure - you can buy that case from Moog. It needs a power supply which moog doesn’t sell. I use uzeus from tip-top audio which is overkill for this case but can stay with you as you grow
I see it now. I missed it when I was looking at their website the other day. It's the Moog Eurorack Case. Cool. I get it now. The power comes from a power module in the rack. I think I am getting the modular virus from your videos.. I tried the DFAM in a store the other day and I can't stop thinking about it.
I know....that one caught me with my knickers down as well. Did not expect the pitch to eliminate steps. Been playing around with that technique all afternoon, and its bloody awesome.
There's noise, and external audio. But at LFO range VCO1 can still FM VCO2 while patched to something else, and if you switch Pitch to MOD VCO1 you can get some really interesting sounds.
So I’m going ahead with th mk4(for th explicit use u describe in vid)! I’ve also decided t get a few other modules, this will b my first real foray int’ full modular...if I may ask, can you recommend any reasonably priced powered cases? Please forgive my directness and naïveté. Thanks mate!
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This is an old ass video but just something for all those still watching this to consider: most if not all the stuff on Loopop's wishlist at the beginning, even a sort of glide, can be achieved with a Beatstep Pro. The big difference is that the BSP completely bypasses the internal sequencer for pitch and volume information. The BSP itself is tuned chromatically which means you can achieve pitch quantization by patching BSP pitch out to DFAM pitch in. The BSP CV outputs and its sequencer work REALLY well with the DFAM. You can send pitch, gate and velocity information from BOTH(!!) sequencers to practically any patch point on the DFAM. You can even patch the DFAM's internal velocity and pitch to any other point you want and sequentially modulate the chosen patch point if the BSP is feeding it velocity/pitch information.
Nice, I'd imagine 0xi One or Hapax could help out here in spades as well. 0-Ctrl as well (though it's not chromatic).
But the cost point is the main one for me. BSP is flat out more affordable then a skiff + power supply + 4 or 5 modules if you don't want to get sucked in like that to eurorack :)
If I had to pick a single moment when I went from simple DFAM owner to developing a fascination with modular, it was this video, perhaps in late December. ‘Twas a tipping point. Now I’m making music just about daily; spending too much; learning a new, ever-changing instrument; and scratching my itch. In short: joy. Thanks, man!
Thanks for sharing!
Haha, was just about to post this….I have the Moog Sound Studio and i can see me adding some ‘mods’ very soon…
Semi-modulars do a terrific job of introducing folks to synthesis and patching. Playing with friends, even a small number of modules like in this video, unlocks semis and launches them straight into outer space. Excellent job here! You should do a video like this with all the popular semis!
I am waiting my new dfam and this video made me even more excited about this whole new world i am getting into..
Brilliant, I have had DFAM for over a year now and I still keep learning new stuff to do with it. Thanks
Brilliant! Been using these tips as jumping off points for continued exploration of the DFAM and they've taken me to places that I never thought the DFAM capable of.
You blinded me with synthesis!!! Now I want all of this stuff along with the DFAM!!!
Love the disting quantized patch session. Awesome!
Looking for some comments on voltage compatibility with Moog semi modular synths and eurorack modules. Otherwise I can think of no better source for truly informative and expansive videos on matters of electronic music. Your really some kind of Saint, or sage; a spark of inspiration with true potential to inspire fire. Thanks for sharing your mojo.
Haha....That short sequence you are running at about 2:25 sounds a lot like the sound fx they used in the original Star Trek series for the heart rate monitor in sick bay! Fantastic!
Having a similar video listing top eurorack features you could add to a Mother 32 would be epic! Love your stuff!
I very much appreciate your perspective of using modular to enhance one's rig.
I also appreciate your clear focus on mod example selection based on your previous review of the DFAM with simple, clear, but functional examples 👊
Just got my DFAM and revisited this video. Now I've got to spend an extra few hundred dollars, thanks Loopop!
Everyday I get more and more interested in modular, you can do so much more with it! Great vid. Greetz👍✌️
great. answered my last questions about the dfam. i am sure now :).
At 5:50 you made me buy the DFAM :)
Great video and really cool sounding sequence and tweeks at the part in the video where you quanitize the pitch! Nice musical surprise in a tutorial!
just WOW !!! I want a DFAM
This is a fantastic video. Very helpful! Thank you.
Loopop, you've answered my questions 👍🏽!!
I purchased DFAM but I won't actually have it in my hands ontill another 2 weekends, so it's comforting to calm anxiety 😁😊
Thank you.
Thanks for the insight, keep the videos coming 👍
Great video as always!!!
The video of which we knew it was coming... Great video Ziv!
Thanks Mick ;)
I am on the fence about buying the DFAM. I have a Behringer Neutron but i am not sure how i can patch it to behave like the DFAM does. Is that even possible? Perhaps i can keep my money then.
Loopop always goes one step beyond so we can s t r e t c h the instrument, and he loves LFOs, lots of LFOs, the more the better!
TROGULAR 10,000 yessss you ain’t seen nothing yet, wait til the next one
Can´t wait, i have only the LFOs on my minibrute, a German pedal I used to connect to my Rhodes, and a couple of buttons on my nErd Electro. i also have three whammy bars, which probably count. What's an LFO anyway, some kind of tremolo or vibrato for the synth elites? I know it's exactly that ;-)
Looking forward to your album man
At 3:29 you mentioned that it is possible to use other external sequencers to effect the pitch and tempo of the DFAM. The ones featured in this video appear to all be fully eurorack modules, so I was wondering if a semimodular unit like the Moog Grandmother would also work in this regard? Thank you for another very helpful and informative tutorial!
Yes, should work just fine! DFAM doesn't have MIDI inputs, so you'll need a MIDI to CV converter if you're using a regular MIDI sequencer, but Grandmother has CV and Gate outs, so you're good to go
Awesome thank you. So around the 4:20 mark you discuss quantizing. Would this also be possible to replace the Disting with the Grandmother as well? Seems like you could do something like “Gate Out” from Grandma (in the ARP/SEQ module) to the DFAM Trigger/Pitch In?
You should be able to play DFAM with the KBD out of Grandma
Excellent video! thanks for making!
I've created this interactive Patch Maker tool - now you can mark your setup in less than one min and upload it for everyone to use - can't wait 🙏 @
ahhh okay. got it. new to modular. played with a dfam. LOVED IT, but was wondering if there was an easier to dial in specific pitches... the more you know!
Just spent my money on a second dfam. Definitely want a quantizer next. Also been eyeing that delay magneto from strymon.
Magneto seems so cool but since everyone and there grandma is saying "it doesn't have enough CV control" maybe there will be an upgraded version in a few years and we will be sad if we buy one now ;)
This is excellent! Looking to create two eurorack complimentary implementations for my two dfams.
Some very nice tricks there! I’m thinking of getting a case with a few modules including Disting. I presume I’d need an output module such as the tip top one you have there? It’d be going into an audio interface
Thanks! If you keep levels low your interface should be fine
C B
Hi there Ziv and first of all, many, many thanks for your truly amazing videos - your knowledge, teaching ability/style and production standards are unrivalled.
I notice that in your three tier Moog stand you have the Moog 60HP case mounted in the bottom tier for the Eurorack modules. Is there any chance that you could provide some summary notes on what power supply you installed and how?
Many thanks.
Thanks for the kind words. I used uZeus from TipTop Audio. I'd also recommend taking a look at PolyEnd's "Anywhere" if you're interested in portability. The both just sit on the built in rails and have a flying bus board to which you connect your other modules. Both are built to handle way more modules that this can fit, but just to make sure watch my review of Anywhere to see how much power your modules use
Perfect - thank you and will do!
This is great (as usual) and useful :) thanks for sharing
excellent!! I bought the Expert Sleepers!!! so much better now
as now I'm using only the quantizer algorithm with the DFAM, can you suggest to me another module that only does the same kind of quantization on the dfam?
Really informative, Thanks
tthanks for the video. i have tried with my dfam what you have explain at 1:36 (change the length of the sequencer by patch the pitch out with the tempo in) and i'll active only the first three step (putting the pitch at max value on the last five step) but seems that the step one of the three step don't sound. The sequencer is active but the first step seems quite mute. At the same time, once i've change again the length of the sequencer (from three step to two or at four step) the first step don't run again, so seems that are only one or three step on. Is there any problem with my dfam? do not know if I can explain myself well but hope you understand. thanks in advance for your answer.
lovetrademark thanks for the kind words - sorry I don’t understand what you’re doing wrong but just try and replicate what I do - nothing is hidden ;) I doubt something is wrong with your DFAM but maybe...?
oh! That's paraphonic 5:40 😎 awesome
Great video! If you slide one of those middle modules over you can squeeze in a mult or 2hp module. :)
Ben Asaro yeah I know - wanted to give each module a bit of space ;)
Excellent tips, thank you very much!
Can you show us how to put Eurorack into a standard 19" rack cabinet? I have SKB cases, and want to continue to use their transport gear if possible.
A Happy Ending kit from TipTopAudio may be what you are looking for. A standard 19" rack case with power supply. Eurorack standard is 3U.
Hi, the expert sleepers distancing module looks ace. My question is, what does the Expert Sleepers ES-8 do in this demo/tutorial? I'm a newbie to modular, so I hope my question is not too obvious :)
see my video about hybrid modular
Thanx for posting
I bought a ridiculous amount of synth stuff while i was prisoner dureing covid...
More money then brains. As it were.
Im an electrician...drummer.guitar/bAss player.
Thought i could ace the learning curve.
NOT so easy.
awesome vid!!
hi loopop thanks for all the great vids.
Do you know if its possible to shorten the sequences on the defam with the defam receiving clock? So for example sending my mother 32 time code from my computer via midi then sending this to my defam with say 6 steps that stay perfectly in time?
Thanks
Thanks! no to my knowledge it’s not possible
Hi just a silly question, would I be able to use disting with a Moog Subharmonicon to quantise its pitch? Thx for sharing your knowledge!
Nice Ziv.. Quick question: could be possible use DFAM in path from modular to daw and use it also for clocking al system? Any experience about?
Maybe midi it's not the best way to sync, i know..
DFAM doesn’t have midi so you’ll need to find a way to convert analog clock to midi. Instinctively I’d it with VCV but there’s probably a product that solves this problem…
@@loopop thanks Ziv.. Strange choice by Moog..
@@marcob7108 adding midi would have made it even more expensive I assume. Midi to CV from your DAW is also an option
@@loopop yes, maybe you're right about midi, but for everyone that can spent 700/800€ i think that's not a big issue.. It's my hopinion obviously.
I must check dfam's inputs, maybe could be possible to use a DC coupled output from audio interface to send a clock from ableton.. You're very kind as usual.
You made me change my mind about dfam. Would my Circuit Monostation pair well with it? I will need a quantizer as you nicely show to get some melody out of this thing. A bit scared to dive in Euro rack world.
It would pair nicely - you could sequence pitch from CMS and other modulation from DFAM
great video, thanks! nice options combining the DFAM with disting! one question: what about getting 16 steps out of the DFAM ? thanks
Thanks! Only if you use the technique I show using another sequencer and give each step a different length. Or use a clock divider and sequential switch to use the top row rist and bottom row second, but that's a whole other story...
Why doesn't STRG + F find me any jokes about pitches? Very interesting, even after all this time! I wanted to play DFAM with a sequencer so I guess I have to tune every knob to C for it to work properly? Someone said CV pitch input would override the pitch knobs but the manual says otherwise ... is there an easier way to do it? Super intereseting that the Disting alone can make the DFAM so much more melodical! Thanks for reminding me :)
Great video as always! I guess you can do most of those tricks with a beatstep pro but wonder if its gate (10-12v) will fry the DFAM 🤔 would simple volume control audio cables work as voltage attenuators?
Which would be the budget setup to get all these functions out of the DFAM?? brands, models, prices, do you know?? Illustrate us, please!!!!
Hi, Great video as always but I am wondering: how do you connect your step sequencer with the dfam? It's not patched and the dfam doesn't have midi in (nor out, btw). Thanks
Through Control Voltage outputs
wow. thank you for sharing all this.
awesome video, thank you! one question please, I am getting the m32 and dfam as a starting point on my modular journey and was wondering about the rack, at first i thought the 2 tier would be nice, then I spotted the 3 tier, like you use here, which is great to add more modules, my question is , do you need an empty case to mount the modules in the third tier? many thanks
Thanks - yes, Moog sells this case - and you need to get a power supply separately
@@loopop thanks so much
@@johnpalmermusic They have a 4 tier now as well, and uZeus is a great power option for that case (1 per case if you went 4 tier with say dfam, m32, and two empty skiff cases to fill with modular.
Love your videos, loopop. I have a DFAM and, sure enough, it is making me very curious about modular. Do you know whether the DFAM's Trigger Output can serve as a clock source for a Make Noise Rene? I feel like it should but the Rene manual says the clock input "width greater than 2.5 ms" while the DFAM manual says the trigger output is "roughly 1ms in width." Thank you!
Thanks! I’ve not tried sorry and my studio is undergoing a bit of renovation so they’re not accessible
Hi Matthew, I think it's possible to use an enveloppe generator to simulate a trigger-to-gate converter, A-140 from Doepfer can handle this.
Anyway I think the Make Noise Rene will be fine with the DFAM clock
@@trapcodien Thanks. I went ahead and got a Rene, and if you (or anyone else who sees this) are interested, it works. The DFAM Trigger out serves as a clock source for a Make Noise Rene despite the width disparity.
But that's not actually how I use it. Instead, I sampled the DFAM Trigger out with my Octatrack, and I send the sample out one of the Cue outs on the Octatrack to serve as a clock source for one Rene channel. This is cool because it allows me to do weird irregular clock patterns depending on where I place triggers on that track of the Octatrack. I can even do boutique swings using the retrigger and retrigger time functions on the Octatrack. Moreover, I can clock a second Rene channel with the other Cue out, either using a second Octatrack track or with the same Octatrack track depending on my parameter lock on the Balance setting on the Amp page of the track (since the clocks originate from the Cue left and right).
Hey Hey! Do you have a vid showing how to hook Keystep(and setting pins) and Mother 32? Thank you
I made one with a simple trick in the past, but since they updated the firmware I've not covered it
Wow great vid. I am new to synthesis and I have a dfam what other modules in your opinion should I start with. I love the way you coupled yours with the dfam. Did you convert an empty dfam case into a rack. I appreciate your help
Thanks! No I didn’t empty a DFAM, Moog sells these cases. Regarding where to start - with research and your needs :) don’t listen to recommendations from others
@@loopop I knew you was going to say that lol..but you are right I'm just bamboozled by the choices . I'm just beginning and it's just a new hobby at the mo. Having fun learning the jargon and How it all works
What is the name of the quantizer you are using in this video ? Thank s !
Hey, Loopop! Can I ask a question, please? The trick with Pitch out - Tempo in (
Bro thank you so much for always putting out the highest quality reviews and tutorials.
Quick question.. is there another way other than eurorack to quantize the DFAM?
Any semi-modular options that come to mind?
Wondering if patching it to a Mother or to a Minibrute 2S could make this possible.
Still new to semi-mod & modular
I'm not sure if the mother 32 or Minibrute would do that (possibly) but the korg sq1 is an inexpensive option that can send quantized pitches... A surprisingly powerful yet simple and intuitive sequencer which is affordable new and abundant and cheap second hand. Enjoy
Hi loopop! Your videos are extremely helpful and thanks for all of your hard work! I would appreciate it if you could please clarify one important point. In the back of the DFAM, there is an audio output. Are the modules being layered into the audio output of the Moog DFAM into your audio interface, or is the sound from the DFAM coming out of the VCA into the ES-8 and the sound ends up through the USB connector into the DAW? I am confused based on the cable set-up in that I do not see a separate audio mixer (i.e. ALM Tangle Quartet Eurorack module) where a 1/8in to 1/4in TRS cable converter is used. Thanks for your help!
Hey - I don't know which point in the video you're referring to, but the same audio comes out both the VCA output in the front and the line audio in the back (probably different levels)
@@loopop Hey loopop! Around the point where you show how to map the Disting Mk4 with the DFAM for quantization. So, I gather that the Disting is quantizing the output sound of the DFAM, and the final sound is being sent out from the back of the DFAM's audio output. Is that correct? Also, in this case, what is the purpose of the VCA output from the DFAM being inputted into the ES-8? Thanks for the clarification!
@@Tidewater500 I need a specific timeline to be sure, but DISTING doesn’t quantize audio, it quantizes control voltage. My guess is es 8 is just acting as an audio interface into a computer
@@loopop Awesome. Yes, it all makes sense now. The point of reference is 4:20. Earlier I was just confused where the final audio source would go after the control voltage was quantized. On different Eurorack rigs, some sound designers have an audio mixer module in which the instruments are outputted from their VCA ports into the mixer. This might be useful if trying to combine / layer the DFAM with a Subharmonicon and only have one output signal instead of two separate channels. After I get my Eurorack parts in the mail, I will try the appropriate configurations. I just wanted to make sure that I understood how the components operated before purchasing them and making unnecessary mistakes; however, as I have learned before, with systems like these, it is best to try them out directly instead of solely relying on a theoretical approach. Thank you for your help loopop! I will be more than happy to support your work with a donation. Keep up the good work with your reviews and instructional series!
Nice vid, do you have reccomendations for newbies who start out with the dfam as there first modular? I think the mother-32 is a good match, but what modules would you recommend to put in the limited space of the moog case, that would extend the mother 32 and the dfam? The Disting from expert sleepers? or maybe Maths from Makenoise? An amp to get output and headphones connected (Black Output from erica seems nice, but is very wide)?
h ag thanks! My top recommendation for first module is ES-8 from Expert Sleepers, if you’re open to the idea of trying out modules in software form - this will help you figure out exactly what modules you need. Please watch my Hybrid Modular video for more info. Maths is nice but will take up a lot of space. Try the modules in virtual form in VCVRack and then buy the ones you want in physical form. Makes sense?
Hey bud! I am really happy with your videos. Very informative and really helped me originally to understand synthesis and tricks with the Mother 32. I just purchased the DFAM though don’t have enough to get a eurorack yet. Any tips on how I can achieve this kinda parasonic sound with just the Mother32 and DFAM? I also have a subsequent 37. But I really don’t know how to hook it up the set up and perhaps have it trigger the DFAM and Mother32. Still learning
Thanks for your comment! I haven't tried it but you should be able to send MIDI from Sub 37 -> Mother-32 and then clock DFAM from Mother
I think I understand the connection from Sub37 to M32. MIDI cable of MIDI out. I've never connected the DFAM to the M32. M32 has Assign, Gate, KB, or Assign OUTPUTS. DFAM has Tempo, Trigger or Clock IMPUTS. Sorry for the beginner question. Just trying not to fried the 2 Moogs. What would Imput / Outputs would you use to run the DFAM from M32.
Great video! I love watching your videos. You explain things very clearly. Question, what other quantizers any would you recommend? Thanks!
SC _ Trovarsi thanks! Sorry I haven’t used any others than Disting and VCV quantizers. Tip-top Audio has a nice one
SC _ Trovarsi oh and ornament and crime of course
loopop OK great! Thanks for getting back to me I’ll check these out. I’m fairly new to modular so I don’t want to start off with something too complicated. 👍🏽
Trovarsi - check out the Intellijel uScale II. It's pretty simple to use and has a secondary output which you can set to an interval. So you could, for example, bring the pitch out of DFAM into uScale II, send quantized pitch 1 (root) to VCO 1 IN, and quantized pitch + 7 semitones (fifth) to VCO 2 IN.
Started to freak out thinking I need a Disting (quantizing as demonstrated here) for my DFAMily but then I thought about the WM Eloquencer I have on the way...that should suffice for all my quantizing/sequencing needs, right?
That is a sweet setup!
presumably if you're just speeding up the steps to "remove" them, the sequencer will quickly go out of time when clock to anything else?
*can I use the DFAM on the drum track of my beat step pro? I'm new to analog synths and have no idea what I'm doing. But that seems like a good idea. So on my beatstep pro I have a behringer 2600 on track 1, a Neutron on track 2 and a DFAM on the drum track*
Nice Video, i just got my DFAM yesterday. I miss a rest function
Responder Music thanks! - this video shows two ways to do that
Your video?
Responder Music yes this one. By either modulating tempo or using an external sequencer. I know it’s not as good as having the feature on board but hopefully better than nothing
I mean, Reset in sync to external clock. When i stop my external sequencer and start it again, the DFAM should start from the first step.
Fab demo lovin this would be great with my M32's but looking at your modular setup..... Ideas!
lol i just noticed you spelled loopop on the sequencer at the start
How are you liking that case with a mother, dfam, and modules? Was considering something like that.
It's a fun small case - obviously it doesn't scale much and needs power, but it doesn't take much space
@@loopop so how are you powering the eurorack modules?
uZeus from tip-top in this video
Sounds great! Is that your whole setup or just for this video? Very interesting what you can do with so few modules.
Juan A. Matos Thanks! I do have more stuff but in general I always prefer the smaller setups - and yes, you can do A LOT just with what’s here.
hi!
thanks for the video
I bought a dfam a while ago, and I like it a lot, but what is such a shame is that you can't skip steps easily
i sync it with logic (via midi tot a doepfer msy2) and then patch it in the ADV/clock
is there a way you can keep it in sync an only use for instance 5 steps (the technique you demonstrate doesn't allow to sync but only in stand alone mode...)
almost criminal you can't skip steps (I'm into polyrhythms :) )
I hope you can help
thanks so much
nico
How did you connect the seg with the dfam ?
What module can I use to reset the sequence? That would be really useful.
Does it really shorten the sequence by just speeding up the tempo in the audio rate? I mean I know it sounds like it but would it eventually get out of phase with a metronome?
What reverb are you playing the DFAM through in this video?
Clever!
I have noticed(or haven't seen it),
Seems like there's no way to sweep the cutoff on dfam unless you do it by hand. ??
There’s a vcf envelope on board and vcf input in the patch bay
Probably this is a very basic question but can you tell us how you fitted those modules to the Moog stand? How did you get the same wood panels and also how are the modules get power?
Sure - you can buy that case from Moog. It needs a power supply which moog doesn’t sell. I use uzeus from tip-top audio which is overkill for this case but can stay with you as you grow
I see it now. I missed it when I was looking at their website the other day. It's the Moog Eurorack Case. Cool. I get it now. The power comes from a power module in the rack. I think I am getting the modular virus from your videos.. I tried the DFAM in a store the other day and I can't stop thinking about it.
Great work, man! Now I need to find money to spend.
Very cool
Can’t I just use the mother 32 lfo out to modulate the pitch of the oscillators on the dfam?
Elephant Kid yes you can
wtf! lmao how did cranking the pitch eliminate the steps?? i get the note being faster etc but huh? lol .,.,,and THANKS
I know....that one caught me with my knickers down as well. Did not expect the pitch to eliminate steps. Been playing around with that technique all afternoon, and its bloody awesome.
High pitch = high tempo
Where can I buy the Vari. F.O module ?
Check out voicas.audio/
Awesome!!!
I played a lot with lego, thats probably the reason!😉
DFAM has two potential LFOs. Each osc can go as slow as about one cycle per 4 seconds if I'm counting right.
but what will produce the sound instead? only one osc? meh
There's noise, and external audio.
But at LFO range VCO1 can still FM VCO2 while patched to something else, and if you switch Pitch to MOD VCO1 you can get some really interesting sounds.
Fantastic
Pardon mate, which disting?
MK4
@@loopop thanks mate!
So I’m going ahead with th mk4(for th explicit use u describe in vid)! I’ve also decided t get a few other modules, this will b my first real foray int’ full modular...if I may ask, can you recommend any reasonably priced powered cases? Please forgive my directness and naïveté. Thanks mate!
Awesome but EXPENSIVE!
What's more? The moog grandmother...... It's awesome sounding & fun to patch but $900 !
Not that it would stop me buying a DFAM in the slightest, but it is a bit of a shame that sequences
All pitches adhere to the scale, yo! ;)
TL;DW: never forget to get your synth some friends :)
Please stop showing the SEQ... Damn temptation... 🤤
CloudSounds! Ok - next video no SEQ!
No no no! Do show Seq on all your videos! ;)
Piotr Raczyński don’t worry I only promised one ;)
The sibilance is deafening
So you’re saying I need to buy a Disting... ok.
Are those ‘your’ Legos, or were they supplied by the Lego company? 😆