Mato, your narration is very fun to listen. The first time I listened to one of your videos, my attention was immediately drawn to your narration style. At first I thought your voice was going to be distracting... but it turned out to be quite the contrary. Keep 'em coming, my friend.
+Mr Possiblities I remember the first couple of times when randomly clicked on the videos and I actually skipped them because they seemed a bit "odd" to me. After that I decided to pay attention and they became my favorites in UA-cam. They´re more like having a friend that really enjoys explaining what happened in the game to you rather than some random bloke in your screen dissecting the secrets of the position. You can tell Mato is enjoying so much when he makes these videos that it´s actually hard not to enjoy them with him. As you said, keep´em coming, my friend.
I really do not like or appriciate it when people are saying "Grandmaster made a wrong move"... But honestly, you're the only one that i don't mind saying such things, you know alot.
love the ending.. iit looks almost drawn from a piece perspective, but even a child could win easily here.. would love to figure out these endgame strategies like this guy.. one of the best
No matter who it is, we are human and make mistakes. It is also true that two persons always know more than one, no matter what difference in intelligence.
"It's easy to be general after the battle"thanks for saying that. A lot of other miniatures have more Monday-morning quarterbacking than game. It can be instructive, but the general aspect has been lost.
To be fair to Fischer and his "mistakes", he didn't have any "book lines" to learn, he had to come up with all of this opening theory himself. The fact that he still won the game is a testimony to how good he was regardless of his mistakes.
It should be noted that Fischer was only 16 years old in this game. His knowledge and skill improved like anyone else with experience. He only hit his peek skill at chess around 1970. The last 100 games or so of his career are by far some of the best chess games ever played.
NOT ALLWAYS ,BUT HE SURLY KNEW HOW TO WIN EVEN WHEN THE OPENINGS WERE NOT SO GREAT !!! GREAT BOBBY ,SURLY THE BEST CHESS PLAYER EVER =UNDISPUTED !!! THANKS FOR SHARE FRIEND
im not sure those moves are errors. It seems to be more a strategy issue. Sometimes theory considers that certain moves are the strongest, but a elite chess player is not obliged to play them always and against every rival. He can try other options either because wants to experiment new positions, either because wants to bring his oponent into unknown positions.
Exactly! Lasker was known to play deliberately "weaker" moves against the grain of theory and fashion for the human and fun aspect and I'm pretty sure Bobby also did this in his career.
If you are win the game, does your opening really matter? It wasn't like Fischer drew the game. Maybe Fischer was just having fun with Rosseto... Let's Also keep in mind that Fischer was born in 1943, so at the time of this game he was about 16 years old. Still ripening into one of the all-time greats of the chess board.
Opening theory has advanced considerably at Grandmaster levels in chess now compared to 1960. "Novelty openings" like you see Fisher player here get punished and quickly taken advantage of. Only newer more complex novelty openings surprise Grandmasters effectively these days.
The only way to defend the pawn is to move the knight out of the way (via Nf6 or Ng6) in which the rook at d8 defends the pawn. I believe that its impossible to defend though because white just moves his rook out of the way of the threat, and then doubles rooks. If black tries to double rooks, notice the light squared bishop. The light squared bishop can play Bf5 threatening the rook, and if you swing one rook over to like Rc6 or Re6, after c5, if black captures at c5, then Rxd8 (note that white's rooks are doubled so black cant recapture with his/her f8 rook) or Rxd8# if black used his/her f8 rook to defend the d6 pawn via Re6 or something. Theres other possibilities in there, but these are just some ideas that i have came up with. However, i'm not 100% sure why its impossible to defend, either. Also, another important thing to note is the pawn structure. Black's d6 pawn is an isolated pawn; no other pawns on either side to guard it. This makes it a permanent weakness. In contrast, white has a decent pawn structure; he has a pawn out (c4) but its still a healthy pawn because its defendable and its just overall a pretty strong pawn. His backrank isn't weak, either.
Sometimes Fischer deliberately played weaker openings just to prove he was better than his opponent. There's a famous case where he played the King's Gambit after proving that it was a flawed opening.
Recuerden todos lo que dicen "saber mucho" , que Fischer tenia solo 16 años cuando jugó esta partida. Ningun otro jugador despues de él demostro ser tan fuerte como jugador a esa edad.
Raoul Sharberi: After knight h7 Fischer can move the bishop to e6 and force the rook to move.Then the only way to stop the pawn promotion is to give up the rook.
I don't think taking the knight with the bishop was a mistake by fisher, it would have opened up the G file for the opponents rook and the opponent still could castle on the other side
i like mato but its Never ez to say what is best move-especailly with Fischer.he was soo many moves ahead im sure he knew most of the time what move was better . cmom mato
You can not say that Bobby did not do the best moves, all players have different playing styles, and you say that other GM's say he makes three mistakes, I can promise you that he would beat all those gm's Simultaneous.
because like Mato showed, there was move that his adversary could have done that would have made him clearly win in material and position, thats why newbie can still win games even though they make tons of mistake (of course Fischer is still one of the greatest player ever, he was just not perfect)
yeah, explain how 7.) a3 is stronger than 7.) Bd3. Bd3 develops a piece, facilitates castling and over protects the e4 pawn. a3 in this game would have been a wasted move as black never attempts to pin the knight. who cares what the book move is, i'm gonna trust fischer here. he knew a little bit about chess.
+Dexter Haven Tom Brady is nothing without the offensive line. Try using Tom Brady with Carolina or Tampa Bay offensive line - Brady is just a barbie...
+Dexter Haven just dont hydrate Brady's balls in front of an audience. Who cares about the stupid title of a great game of chess. hydrating balls in public... that should be done in private
I was surprised by the way you nailed the 'Mar del Plata' pronountiation.
Greetings from Argentina.
These videos are so fantastic! Extremely interesting, Instructional, entertaining. I just sit sometimes and watch for hours.
Mato you are great keep making videos
OK I will make one more
Mato, your narration is very fun to listen. The first time I listened to one of your videos, my attention was immediately drawn to your narration style. At first I thought your voice was going to be distracting... but it turned out to be quite the contrary. Keep 'em coming, my friend.
+Mr Possiblities I remember the first couple of times when randomly clicked on the videos and I actually skipped them because they seemed a bit "odd" to me. After that I decided to pay attention and they became my favorites in UA-cam. They´re more like having a friend that really enjoys explaining what happened in the game to you rather than some random bloke in your screen dissecting the secrets of the position. You can tell Mato is enjoying so much when he makes these videos that it´s actually hard not to enjoy them with him.
As you said, keep´em coming, my friend.
Love what you're doing mato. I learn when I watch these videos. Keep it up!!!
I really do not like or appriciate it when people are saying "Grandmaster made a wrong move"...
But honestly, you're the only one that i don't mind saying such things, you know alot.
You are right. Others don't know
MatoJelic I'am just one out of many that probably feel as if we should listen to you, i guess it is all about trust.
Hehehehehehehe! Mato's so humble... that's why I'm your biggest fan.
I honestly don't care about your opinion about MY opinion, stick it up your chocolate starfish
Mexuverse San Nice
love the ending.. iit looks almost drawn from a piece perspective, but even a child could win easily here.. would love to figure out these endgame strategies like this guy.. one of the best
Najdorf played with Fischer several times which can make both of us proud because he was an Argentinian with Polish origin
No matter who it is, we are human and make mistakes. It is also true that two persons always know more than one, no matter what difference in intelligence.
"It's easy to be general when the battle is over" você é um ser humano incrível mato hahaj
"It's easy to be general after the battle"thanks for saying that. A lot of other miniatures have more Monday-morning quarterbacking than game. It can be instructive, but the general aspect has been lost.
Super play,
love the way you say bobby
I thought it would be a Fischer defeat. Great presentation by MatoJelic.
great video !
To be fair to Fischer and his "mistakes", he didn't have any "book lines" to learn, he had to come up with all of this opening theory himself. The fact that he still won the game is a testimony to how good he was regardless of his mistakes.
It should be noted that Fischer was only 16 years old in this game. His knowledge and skill improved like anyone else with experience. He only hit his peek skill at chess around 1970. The last 100 games or so of his career are by far some of the best chess games ever played.
@Andrew12045 if 29...Rxd6 then30. Rxb8
Inspiring.
@WBensburg d6 pawn is permanent weakness
NOT ALLWAYS ,BUT HE SURLY KNEW HOW TO WIN EVEN WHEN THE OPENINGS WERE NOT SO GREAT !!! GREAT BOBBY ,SURLY THE BEST CHESS PLAYER EVER =UNDISPUTED !!! THANKS FOR SHARE FRIEND
These games never end...
nice clip
@soksi19 If I understand the notation correctly, the bishop cannot go to e6, either e4 or g6. What did you mean?
i didn`t knew Rosseto played against Fisher; that`s make me proud about argentinian chess history! Mato, thanks to remember Rosseto
I love the way you say Zugzwang.
Great vid! Thank you! Question: @3:55, when you say the pawn is impossible to defend, why not Nf6?
im not sure those moves are errors. It seems to be more a strategy issue. Sometimes theory considers that certain moves are the strongest, but a elite chess player is not obliged to play them always and against every rival. He can try other options either because wants to experiment new positions, either because wants to bring his oponent into unknown positions.
Exactly! Lasker was known to play deliberately "weaker" moves against the grain of theory and fashion for the human and fun aspect and I'm pretty sure Bobby also did this in his career.
If you are win the game, does your opening really matter? It wasn't like Fischer drew the game. Maybe Fischer was just having fun with Rosseto... Let's Also keep in mind that Fischer was born in 1943, so at the time of this game he was about 16 years old. Still ripening into one of the all-time greats of the chess board.
It matters because nos opponent could have taken advantage of the position. But Lucky for Fischer, he didn't.
Opening theory has advanced considerably at Grandmaster levels in chess now compared to 1960. "Novelty openings" like you see Fisher player here get punished and quickly taken advantage of. Only newer more complex novelty openings surprise Grandmasters effectively these days.
Dumb question probably but why at 3:49 is the pawn at d6 impossible to defend?
The only way to defend the pawn is to move the knight out of the way (via Nf6 or Ng6) in which the rook at d8 defends the pawn. I believe that its impossible to defend though because white just moves his rook out of the way of the threat, and then doubles rooks. If black tries to double rooks, notice the light squared bishop. The light squared bishop can play Bf5 threatening the rook, and if you swing one rook over to like Rc6 or Re6, after c5, if black captures at c5, then Rxd8 (note that white's rooks are doubled so black cant recapture with his/her f8 rook) or Rxd8# if black used his/her f8 rook to defend the d6 pawn via Re6 or something. Theres other possibilities in there, but these are just some ideas that i have came up with. However, i'm not 100% sure why its impossible to defend, either.
Also, another important thing to note is the pawn structure. Black's d6 pawn is an isolated pawn; no other pawns on either side to guard it. This makes it a permanent weakness. In contrast, white has a decent pawn structure; he has a pawn out (c4) but its still a healthy pawn because its defendable and its just overall a pretty strong pawn. His backrank isn't weak, either.
***** Superb reply.
Sometimes Fischer deliberately played weaker openings just to prove he was better than his opponent. There's a famous case where he played the King's Gambit after proving that it was a flawed opening.
+mpeterll Never 'proved' such a thing.
+Daniele Innocenti Yes he did. KGA is really bad opening for white.
Thank-you. I knew I'd read it somewhere. I think the paper was titled "A bust to the king's gambit".
+Daniele Innocenti He did. He invented 1.e4 e5, 2.f4 exf4, 3.Nf3 d6!
+mpeterII However, Fischer only played 1.e4 e5, 2.f4 exf4, 3.Bc4 himself, never 3.Nf3, the latter of which he refuted with 3...d6!
It's fascinating to see that even the best players make mistakes.
@ 5:52 what prevented the rook from taking d6?
If rook takes pawn, theb white rook from b3 takes knight on b8
@WBensburg Be6!!
@ 5:53 why doesn't black play Rxd6?
Recuerden todos lo que dicen "saber mucho" , que Fischer tenia solo 16 años cuando jugó esta partida. Ningun otro jugador despues de él demostro ser tan fuerte como jugador a esa edad.
Mato had a softer voice here for some reason, I don't know I liked his old voice and calm attitude more in these old videos.
very beautiful zugzwang
@cocoabuttuh if rook takes the pawn on d6 = Knight at b8 is undefended, hence white wins the knight in exchenge of a pawn
Fischer was 15 years old when he played this game. It should me mentioned in the video.
+Feynmansuper He was born in 1943 , so he was 16 , and all ready a GrandMaster (having won the USA closed championship in Dec1958 ).
I'm not convinced that Knight and Bishop are stronger than Rook and Pawn in this instance, what does engine say?
at 5.51 ...when pawn goes from d5 to d6 ...why isn't the black takin it by a rook !!...
because black wil lose knight
@jocamaneiro1 it is fat Lady.
Rook to 8 row, kicking the knight, and making pawn on A file taken
I like how he says "opening"
8:25 (End) Black: Why not Knght H7?
In that case bishop goes to E6 and game is over.
Raoul Sharberi: After knight h7 Fischer can move the bishop to e6 and force the rook to move.Then the only way to stop the pawn promotion is to give up the rook.
Fischer's favorite opening as White was Alapin's Opening. But his opponents always kept playing the damn Sicilian. So he made them pay.
I don't think taking the knight with the bishop was a mistake by fisher, it would have opened up the G file for the opponents rook and the opponent still could castle on the other side
why not rook takes on d6 at 5:52?
+John Kaminski Then the white rook could take the knight at b8.
+oceansilver jeesh okay thanks i'm high 1600's and still blunder way more than average
**casually mentions ELO score**
i like mato but its Never ez to say what is best move-especailly with Fischer.he was soo many moves ahead im sure he knew most of the time what move was better . cmom mato
Striaght shut black down in the end!
A much younger Mato and thankfully has new microphone
You can not say that Bobby did not do the best moves, all players have different playing styles, and you say that other GM's say he makes three mistakes, I can promise you that he would beat all those gm's Simultaneous.
@cocoabuttuh Because if rook takes the pawn, black loses the knight
I never taken a chess lesson but taught myself at age 7 how the pieces move. When I find someone that has been trained. I lose. I need lessons.
Who downvotes this game? Why? I love games when I overcome blunders.
Rook f8 exchange I don't understand. But the rest, thank you don Mato!
Who said "the winner is the one who makes the penultimate mistake." ?..
The rest of the video shows black postponing the inevitable. Might as well give up the nite for the passed pawn and play for a draw
There is wrong spelling in the video title... Instead of "opening", there should be "ojpenink"
ohh gt it!!!
I would have played f4 instead of a5.
Couldn't the black king move to g8?
the bishop is attacking that square
because like Mato showed, there was move that his adversary could have done that would have made him clearly win in material and position, thats why newbie can still win games even though they make tons of mistake (of course Fischer is still one of the greatest player ever, he was just not perfect)
"Hello , this is Mato"
Dude he wanted to make a large castle since the beginning but fischer didnt want to play as his opponent wantes even of he doesnt make an advantange
Despise Witches Chocolates as they have Dark World Queen Spells.
yeah, explain how 7.) a3 is stronger than 7.) Bd3. Bd3 develops a piece, facilitates castling and over protects the e4 pawn. a3 in this game would have been a wasted move as black never attempts to pin the knight. who cares what the book move is, i'm gonna trust fischer here. he knew a little bit about chess.
Why the heck wouldnt fischer speeding things up with Ra7 followed by Bc4 and next the the killer move Ba6? Maybe Fischer wasn't that good at all.
Guess it was perfect enough:)
Fiser je tu imao 15 godina. I to bi valjda trebalo navesti u videu.
Rosetto. LOL
Arno
why was Bd3 bad?
hehehe... Oipening... hehehe
Sexiest voice (at least on chess website) ever!
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This video title is dumb. Don't ask nonsense. That's like asking , "Did Tom Brady always throw perfect passes?"
+Dexter Haven Tom Brady is nothing without the offensive line. Try using Tom Brady with Carolina or Tampa Bay offensive line - Brady is just a barbie...
Irrelelvant to the question of perfection. And you could say that about any good QB, even more for Dan "Pocket" Marino. So what.
Alan Collins
+Dexter Haven just dont hydrate Brady's balls in front of an audience. Who cares about the stupid title of a great game of chess. hydrating balls in public... that should be done in private
Not "hydrating" anything. Don't talk nonsense...Alan Collins
+bludshedx And it's a bad title. Get over that.
Dear Mato is not aryentina, is argentina arhentina, he he
Ok are can't you breathe easily
"It's not finished until the skinny lady sings." hahah! Isn't it the fat lady?
even c4 isnt that much popular i guess
Zugzwang
no he didnt
Lol fisher fanboys and girls everywhere... I should know as I am one lol
too much mistakes.. if they play carlsen they cant win..
fischer was 16 here lol
fischer if he had a computer he would crush carlsen