hi, thanks for your videos... you made me discover this add which I really like.... is it possible to integrate it into the dashboards?? in some dashboard?? thanks and congratulations again
Now that's a great question. Honest answer, not that I am aware of. But since it has it's own dashboard that can be accessed in the left hand navigation menu, why would you need to?
@@DigitalVideoEdit I see, that makes sense. Sorry I don't know there are entities or mechanism that allow you to enter the controls for Music Assistant onto your own panel. In this case it might be a good idea to reach out to the developer.
Thanks for the great video! I am new to HA & MA, and a little confused about the bluetooth speaker part. Right now, I can only see one built-in Bluetooth device on the Devices & services pane (Raspberry Pi5, bluez 5.66, home assistant supervised 2024.9.1). None of any other Bluetooth device listed there (but can see a connected/trusted device on debian os by bluetoothctl). Seems like I need to add my speaker into the Devices & services first, then MA can use it. Because I only have a classic bluetooth speaker at hand, I am not sure what to do next. For the google, I found some methods such as Pulseaudio, a new USB adapter, esphome, or just a new bluetooth speaker directly supported by HA. Could you give me some pointers on how to do this? Really thanks!
For Bluetooth speakers its a little more complex than a IP based speak with an integration or DLNA. Also a little too in-depth to go into in a comment. I'd recommend reading the following post (Ref: github.com/adrgumula/HomeAssitantBluetoothSpeaker) but if your new to HA this might be a little complex. I'll put up a post on the community and see if this is something that people need and create a video if popular.
Hi Harry, I actually don't have any ripped CD's that I can link in. But good point, I do have afew old CD's around the place. I'll rip them and see if I can put out a video on how to include these into the library :)
@@smart_home_australia that would be great! Really struggling to figure this out. I tried Jellyfin and my music shows up and works great in Jellyfin. But Jellyfin gives an error in Music Assistant of "list index out of range"
Music assistant has been a PITA to upgrade from beta. Now it's an official add on, is it possible to do another video? For example I just can't seem to call it as a "service" (now action). thanks
@@smart_home_australia Great, because it continues to remain buggy, unreliable and difficult. I've been using Sonos for years. Now I have HA and this is also becoming problematic (the HA Sonos integration has also been forever buggy) - I also tried Heos in frustration (this is better). It would be great to have a reliable music server option running within HA, to choose whatever player I like > I look forward to the (updated) review 😊
Very interesting! Thanks for this video. I will check the developers info and see if it can solve my issue. I need to assemble playlists containing titles mixed from multiple sources and can be played simultaneously on different speakers. The major issue here is the "simultaneously " part. Most solutions I have tried do not allow a good sync, so the speakers can't be close to each other.
hi @wagnerfontes2, agreed, sync is always an issue. It works well for Alexa, but i guess its a sound and sync of sound waves and that very much acoustically bound and specific to the environment. Let us know how your testing goes.
Great video, but the current 2024.6.2 version requires installing the Music Assistant Server first, and only then the integration. My concern is that the server might consume too many resources on my machine. I just want to use the integration to remotely access streaming services...
The way MA is structured you always needs the HACS MA component installed and running for the HA Integration to work (at least to the best of my knowledge, pls correct me if I am wrong). That said, the utilization for the HACS MA Server is not excessive. I run my prod instance on a VM with 2 Cores allocated and have never had any performance issues. I no longer run a RPi version, but I dont think that would be an issue either.
@@smart_home_australia Thanks for getting back to me. I watched your video, which is great, by the way. However, I didn't see the installation of the server module, only the integration component version. So, when I went to install it, it required the server. After reviewing the server's requirements, I questioned the necessity of it. I thought maybe I had missed a step in your video. My HA is installed on a MiniPC dedicated specifically to it, and I'm worried about adding more components that might eventually cause issues (crazy, right?).
As you are running this on a mini PC HA would not have any issues, unless it was 10+ years old. So I'd suggest HACS MA install, then HA MA Integration install and you should be fine from a resources perspective.
❓5:30 I also created player-groups. Is it somehow possible to change how the groupe-volume influences the individual volumes? Example: How it behaves right now. Group = vol.60 -> vol.30 (60-30) Player1 = vol.80 -> vol.50 (80-30) Player2 = vol.40 -> vol.10 (40-30) (So it's by addition/subtraction of the volume.) ❗Example: How I want it to behave: Group = vol.60 -> vol.30 (60/2) Player1 = vol.80 -> vol.40 (80/2) Player2 = vol.40 -> vol.20 (40/2) (So it's by multiplication/division of the volume.) BECAUSE than the relative volume relative to eachother is kept equal! So if I have 2 speakers in opposite corners, I sit closer to Player2 and I have adjusted their volume so they sound for this position equally loud they still sound equally loud with multiplication/division but NOT with addition/subtraction. I hope it's understandable what I mean. Can someone give me some ideas or help how to achieve this? Thank you all very much!
Yes its possible with a combination of helpers and calculations that are triggered based on state changes. But this is getting into advanced user cases and outside of the scope of the majority of the channel members. I'm happy to make a video based on this if there is support for this. If you would like a video that covers this topic then please like this comment. If it reaches a high enough figures then I'll schedule the video :)
@@smart_home_australia Thank you very much! Yes, I'd love to see a video about this. Sadly I think to few people will see this comment to get a high enough like count. Thank you anyway ✌🏻
Hi! The first version of Music Assistant had an MPD player. But the latest v2 doesn't have it. Please tell me how to add MPD player to the latest Music Assistant in Home Assistant.
In theory yes, check out github.com/music-assistant/hass-music-assistant/issues/720, seems you can use an iFrame to put MA into a dashboard successfully. However, I could not get this working, but let us know if you do.
Morning..brilliant this is what I am playing with now..trying to set up my music files on an external source without nas is or putting files on same ssd as HA but sttled for ordering a nas..also got problems with spotify recognising account but I love this music assistant !
I was going to include but the video was already pretty long for YT audiences and opted for the automation that was going to be a winner with partners :)
Having a nightmare trying to add this buffalo link station to HA I have a folder share setup and can see it on windows pc but cannot figure how to add it through network storage..@@smart_home_australia
Is there a workaround for people using a pi 4 32? When I go to add on it says This add-on is not compatible with the processor of your device or the operating system you have installed on your device.
Hi @nics8040, the issue is not the Pi4 but the version of the OS you are running (ref: shorturl.ac/7d0dh), looks like you need the 64bit version of PiOS to run this add-on. Sorry for not mentioning it, I wasn't aware of this issue, thanks for pointing it out.
If i want to auto play a musin in jellyfin, what i need input the url(Media ID)in the music assistant service? In the video 8:00, you input a spotify link, my jellyfin is a local server. Thanks.
Although I have not done it, doing abit of a search it would seem that yes you can, but its not as simple as Spotify. Creating a shared playlist within Jellyfin involves a few steps. - Create a Playlist: In your Jellyfin Media Server, create a playlist that you want to share. - Share with All Users: By default, playlists are available to all users. However, due to a known issue, users may need to create a playlist themselves to see the full list of playlists. - Create a Blank Playlist for Each User: Another workaround is to create a blank playlist with the name of each user (like “Mom”, “Dad”, etc.). This will make playlists show up as an option on the home screen. - Export Playlist to M3U File: You can also export the playlist to an M3U file and save it in your media folder. After rescanning the library, everyone should be able to see it. - Use Smart Playlist Plugin: There’s a Smart Playlist Plugin for Jellyfin that provides playlists based on a set of rules. However, this requires editing the JSON files directly. Note: I have not tried this, these instructions were found on the net.
Simple, if you want to automate the playback of a radio station, go to the automation editor in Home Assistant: - Select 'Play media' as the action type. - Choose the media player and then select Music Assistant as the media source. From there, you can pick the radio station you want to play.
Hi @samuelopoku3180, I never tested it with the internet offline, thanks for the feedback. Was this for the playlist or in general? If the former then that would be because it needs to access Spotify to get the information. But in general I dont see why it would not work for local media.
@@smart_home_australia I use a lenovo Google speaker and even local music won't play through the speaker when offline. Using your tutorial I was able to add my Spotify. Everything works when online but not offline. I research and found that the Google speakers do not work offline, therefore if u are to get a WiFi speaker that works offline using esp32 then it should work
Thanks @samuelopoku3180. I assume you are sending locally stored music to the Google speaker while the internet is offline? Is thats the case then it makes sense. Thanks for your feedback and supporting the community.
@@smart_home_australia :-) gonna give it another go tomorrow after removing it. slowly transitioning from home kit automations to home assistant so really appreciate your videos.
Thanks for the video :-) Unfortunately it doesn't work for the Amazon echo :-( I detect them but when I launch a radio, sound, playlist on them I get an error message from my Alexa 😅 If anyone has succeeded with an Alexa it would interest me .
@@smart_home_australia Hello 🙂First I had this error: "To send TTS, set public url in integration configuration Please see the alexa_media wiki for details." Then I put the url of my nabucasa in the pulblic url to access H.A in the alexa configuration of H.A. and now I have this error: To send TTS, please set Announce=true. Music can't be played this way.
OK when I filmed the video Music Assistant did not include Alexa speakers (timestamp 00:50). If you check github.com/orgs/music-assistant/discussions/431 there is a thread on this specific topic. Unless things have changed since the video, you might be out of luck. Let me know if you find to the contrary and I might need to put out a new video :)
Hi @davidtjac , did you follow through all steps in the video? Sounds like you have not added the Music Assistant integration that's located in devices and services.
Glad that I found this video and your channel. Keep up the good work. This was a very well done tutorial.
Thanks @MdMahbuburRahmantapu for the feedback.
Your channel is unique, and the topics in your videos are inspiring. I eagerly await and thoroughly enjoy and learn from them. Thank you so much.
Thanks for the feedback @othman2206, I try and put alot of thought into the content.
Great job with the tutorial. Music assistant looks like my next project. Thanks
Thanks @ScottMackey, let us know how you make out. I'd be interested if you believe it has stability issue.
hi, thanks for your videos... you made me discover this add which I really like.... is it possible to integrate it into the dashboards?? in some dashboard?? thanks and congratulations again
Now that's a great question. Honest answer, not that I am aware of. But since it has it's own dashboard that can be accessed in the left hand navigation menu, why would you need to?
@@smart_home_australia because I'm creating my own dashboard made up of multiple pages and without the sidebar
@@DigitalVideoEdit I see, that makes sense. Sorry I don't know there are entities or mechanism that allow you to enter the controls for Music Assistant onto your own panel. In this case it might be a good idea to reach out to the developer.
Great video again 👍.
I'll still need to test this with my LMS server or MoOde Audio player.
Have a great Christmas
Thanks @mpsadre132, how do you go with the MoOde Audio Player? I'm on on VM hence the MA on HA. But I might spin up a VM for Pi to check it out.
Thanks for the great video! I am new to HA & MA, and a little confused about the bluetooth speaker part. Right now, I can only see one built-in Bluetooth device on the Devices & services pane (Raspberry Pi5, bluez 5.66, home assistant supervised 2024.9.1). None of any other Bluetooth device listed there (but can see a connected/trusted device on debian os by bluetoothctl).
Seems like I need to add my speaker into the Devices & services first, then MA can use it. Because I only have a classic bluetooth speaker at hand, I am not sure what to do next. For the google, I found some methods such as Pulseaudio, a new USB adapter, esphome, or just a new bluetooth speaker directly supported by HA. Could you give me some pointers on how to do this? Really thanks!
For Bluetooth speakers its a little more complex than a IP based speak with an integration or DLNA. Also a little too in-depth to go into in a comment. I'd recommend reading the following post (Ref: github.com/adrgumula/HomeAssitantBluetoothSpeaker) but if your new to HA this might be a little complex. I'll put up a post on the community and see if this is something that people need and create a video if popular.
I use a Blueprint to play a Spotify playlist on My Alexa Speakers, When i scan a NFC tag, it's by Viish Sylvain.
Thanks @grahamshaw5531, You mean this one?shorturl.ac/7ckns, nice, I like it !!
Nice tutorial, I was hoping you would discuss how to add my library of ripped CDs. No one seems to have covered that yet
Hi Harry, I actually don't have any ripped CD's that I can link in. But good point, I do have afew old CD's around the place. I'll rip them and see if I can put out a video on how to include these into the library :)
@@smart_home_australia that would be great! Really struggling to figure this out. I tried Jellyfin and my music shows up and works great in Jellyfin. But Jellyfin gives an error in Music Assistant of "list index out of range"
Ok solved. Add JellyFin integration first then all works perfectly. Video coming out next week 😊👍
Music assistant has been a PITA to upgrade from beta. Now it's an official add on, is it possible to do another video? For example I just can't seem to call it as a "service" (now action). thanks
Already done. Available to members only but releasing to public shortly.
@@smart_home_australia Great, because it continues to remain buggy, unreliable and difficult. I've been using Sonos for years. Now I have HA and this is also becoming problematic (the HA Sonos integration has also been forever buggy) - I also tried Heos in frustration (this is better). It would be great to have a reliable music server option running within HA, to choose whatever player I like > I look forward to the (updated) review 😊
Sounds like you should be doing the review. I’m a casual MA user in HA, I’m more Jellyfin and Plex orientated.
your intro was so good I subbed!
Thanks @MarkGhali for your support. I hope you enjoyed the video and are now enjoying music everywhere in your house :)
Very interesting! Thanks for this video.
I will check the developers info and see if it can solve my issue. I need to assemble playlists containing titles mixed from multiple sources and can be played simultaneously on different speakers.
The major issue here is the "simultaneously " part. Most solutions I have tried do not allow a good sync, so the speakers can't be close to each other.
hi @wagnerfontes2, agreed, sync is always an issue. It works well for Alexa, but i guess its a sound and sync of sound waves and that very much acoustically bound and specific to the environment.
Let us know how your testing goes.
Great video, but the current 2024.6.2 version requires installing the Music Assistant Server first, and only then the integration. My concern is that the server might consume too many resources on my machine. I just want to use the integration to remotely access streaming services...
The way MA is structured you always needs the HACS MA component installed and running for the HA Integration to work (at least to the best of my knowledge, pls correct me if I am wrong).
That said, the utilization for the HACS MA Server is not excessive. I run my prod instance on a VM with 2 Cores allocated and have never had any performance issues. I no longer run a RPi version, but I dont think that would be an issue either.
@@smart_home_australia Thanks for getting back to me. I watched your video, which is great, by the way. However, I didn't see the installation of the server module, only the integration component version. So, when I went to install it, it required the server. After reviewing the server's requirements, I questioned the necessity of it. I thought maybe I had missed a step in your video.
My HA is installed on a MiniPC dedicated specifically to it, and I'm worried about adding more components that might eventually cause issues (crazy, right?).
As you are running this on a mini PC HA would not have any issues, unless it was 10+ years old.
So I'd suggest HACS MA install, then HA MA Integration install and you should be fine from a resources perspective.
@@smart_home_australia Does this still apply now it is an official add on?
❓5:30
I also created player-groups.
Is it somehow possible to change how the groupe-volume influences the individual volumes?
Example: How it behaves right now.
Group = vol.60 -> vol.30 (60-30)
Player1 = vol.80 -> vol.50 (80-30)
Player2 = vol.40 -> vol.10 (40-30)
(So it's by addition/subtraction of the volume.)
❗Example: How I want it to behave:
Group = vol.60 -> vol.30 (60/2)
Player1 = vol.80 -> vol.40 (80/2)
Player2 = vol.40 -> vol.20 (40/2)
(So it's by multiplication/division of the volume.)
BECAUSE than the relative volume relative to eachother is kept equal!
So if I have 2 speakers in opposite corners, I sit closer to Player2 and I have adjusted their volume so they sound for this position equally loud they still sound equally loud with multiplication/division but NOT with addition/subtraction.
I hope it's understandable what I mean.
Can someone give me some ideas or help how to achieve this?
Thank you all very much!
Yes its possible with a combination of helpers and calculations that are triggered based on state changes. But this is getting into advanced user cases and outside of the scope of the majority of the channel members. I'm happy to make a video based on this if there is support for this.
If you would like a video that covers this topic then please like this comment. If it reaches a high enough figures then I'll schedule the video :)
@@smart_home_australia Thank you very much!
Yes, I'd love to see a video about this.
Sadly I think to few people will see this comment to get a high enough like count.
Thank you anyway ✌🏻
Hi! The first version of Music Assistant had an MPD player. But the latest v2 doesn't have it. Please tell me how to add MPD player to the latest Music Assistant in Home Assistant.
Have you added MPD to Home Assistant first? Once added you should then see it as an option in Music Assistant.
Is it possible to put this into a dashboard so we don't need to use the sidebar?
In theory yes, check out github.com/music-assistant/hass-music-assistant/issues/720, seems you can use an iFrame to put MA into a dashboard successfully. However, I could not get this working, but let us know if you do.
Morning..brilliant this is what I am playing with now..trying to set up my music files on an external source without nas is or putting files on same ssd as HA but sttled for ordering a nas..also got problems with spotify recognising account but I love this music assistant !
Thanks @xbox360benji, I hook mine into my Synology NAS and it works a dream. Let me know if you need any help mounting your NAS shared drive.
I was going to include but the video was already pretty long for YT audiences and opted for the automation that was going to be a winner with partners :)
Having a nightmare trying to add this buffalo link station to HA I have a folder share setup and can see it on windows pc but cannot figure how to add it through network storage..@@smart_home_australia
Hi @xbox360benji , sorry I dont have any experience with a Buffalo Link Station. Have you checked out github.com/iKaew/hass-linkstation-addon
@@smart_home_australia I seen that i think its an info card for the dashboard .. I will google around happy new year mate.
Is there a workaround for people using a pi 4 32? When I go to add on it says This add-on is not compatible with the processor of your device or the operating system you have installed on your device.
Hi @nics8040, the issue is not the Pi4 but the version of the OS you are running (ref: shorturl.ac/7d0dh), looks like you need the 64bit version of PiOS to run this add-on. Sorry for not mentioning it, I wasn't aware of this issue, thanks for pointing it out.
@@smart_home_australia is there a way to upgrade to the 64 bit? I don’t want to erase all my pi stuff
Hi @nics8040, unfortunately, there is no direct upgrade path from 32-bit to 64-bit without wiping the hard drive that I am aware of. Sorry.
If i want to auto play a musin in jellyfin, what i need input the url(Media ID)in the music assistant service? In the video 8:00, you input a spotify link, my jellyfin is a local server. Thanks.
Although I have not done it, doing abit of a search it would seem that yes you can, but its not as simple as Spotify.
Creating a shared playlist within Jellyfin involves a few steps.
- Create a Playlist: In your Jellyfin Media Server, create a playlist that you want to share.
- Share with All Users: By default, playlists are available to all users. However, due to a known issue, users may need to create a
playlist themselves to see the full list of playlists.
- Create a Blank Playlist for Each User: Another workaround is to create a blank playlist with the name of each user (like “Mom”,
“Dad”, etc.). This will make playlists show up as an option on the home screen.
- Export Playlist to M3U File: You can also export the playlist to an M3U file and save it in your media folder. After rescanning the
library, everyone should be able to see it.
- Use Smart Playlist Plugin: There’s a Smart Playlist Plugin for Jellyfin that provides playlists based on a set of rules. However,
this requires editing the JSON files directly.
Note: I have not tried this, these instructions were found on the net.
@@smart_home_australia So thanks for your detail response, it look like a little complex, I will try it when have free time. Thank you again.
@@errorhxy6476 yep. Sorry. Not as easy as Spotify. Have you tried Plex ?
Know how to play a radio station on automation?
Simple, if you want to automate the playback of a radio station, go to the automation editor in Home Assistant:
- Select 'Play media' as the action type.
- Choose the media player and then select Music Assistant as the media source. From there, you can pick the radio station you want to play.
Can I use an integrated LG tv as a player?
Whats an integrated Lg TV model? But as long as it runs WebOS then I’d probably say yes.
No Apple Music that I see! Shame it looks really good and I fear another subscription for me.
Hi @grmm01, currently no. However, there has been discussion about this in the forum as an option, so fingers crossed for 2024.
It seems not to be working offline. When my Internet is down, music cannot be played
Hi @samuelopoku3180, I never tested it with the internet offline, thanks for the feedback. Was this for the playlist or in general? If the former then that would be because it needs to access Spotify to get the information. But in general I dont see why it would not work for local media.
@@smart_home_australia I use a lenovo Google speaker and even local music won't play through the speaker when offline. Using your tutorial I was able to add my Spotify. Everything works when online but not offline.
I research and found that the Google speakers do not work offline, therefore if u are to get a WiFi speaker that works offline using esp32 then it should work
Thanks @samuelopoku3180. I assume you are sending locally stored music to the Google speaker while the internet is offline? Is thats the case then it makes sense. Thanks for your feedback and supporting the community.
Did everything right. But in automations, when I choose call a service. Music assistant doesn't show up at all...
Did you check in the Add-On logs to make sure that everything started successfully?
@@smart_home_australia exactly the same for me. music assistant is started and can play music on a speaker....but no options for automations.
@@coffeecakecharlie I suspect the Add-On has changed, might be time for a Music Assistant 2024 video :)
@@smart_home_australia :-) gonna give it another go tomorrow after removing it. slowly transitioning from home kit automations to home assistant so really appreciate your videos.
Thanks for the video :-) Unfortunately it doesn't work for the Amazon echo :-( I detect them but when I launch a radio, sound, playlist on them I get an error message from my Alexa 😅 If anyone has succeeded with an Alexa it would interest me .
Whats the error message you get? Is there an entry in the log files for the error?
@@smart_home_australia Hello 🙂First I had this error: "To send TTS, set public url in integration configuration Please see the alexa_media wiki for details." Then I put the url of my nabucasa in the pulblic url to access H.A in the alexa configuration of H.A. and now I have this error: To send TTS, please set Announce=true. Music can't be played this way.
@@smart_home_australia I have this error: To send TTS, please set Announce=true. Music can't be played this way.
@@smart_home_australia I don't understand where I need to activate 'set Announce' 😒
OK when I filmed the video Music Assistant did not include Alexa speakers (timestamp 00:50). If you check github.com/orgs/music-assistant/discussions/431 there is a thread on this specific topic. Unless things have changed since the video, you might be out of luck. Let me know if you find to the contrary and I might need to put out a new video :)
BON NADAL!!
Bon Nadal a tu també.
need to up your mic volume.
Thanks for the feedback. :)
I call service and no such service "Music Assistanant Beta...."
Hi @davidtjac , did you follow through all steps in the video? Sounds like you have not added the Music Assistant integration that's located in devices and services.