How to check and fix your caster angle! Stop death wobble before it starts!
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- On this episode of Man Ginger Customs we address the light and sometimes scary steering of lifted Jeeps. We want Jess to be comfortable driving the CJ and to that we need to settle the steering down. We show you how to determine your caster, how to fix it, and how to tighten your steering box if needed! Jess is going to love driving this 1985 Jeep CJ7 now!
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Dave-I love that you are sharing your experience with the world! I personally have been blessed with your patience and your willingness to teach others about vehicles and how they are put together! 😊 Keep up the great work! Feel better soon Jess!!!!!
Awww thanks Sue! ❤
You're the best Sue!! Thanks so much!
Jess is an absolute BABE and her personality is wonderful I love how she likes to help on the working on all the different stuff you post.. she mounted that tire like a champ I tried to talk my wife into helping me manually mount tires the only participation was airing the tires to correct pressure after I got the beads to pop on the wheel
She is an absolute babe..... And she tolerates me!
@@madgingercustoms Hech yeah keep up the great job on videos you do a awesome job... and hope Jess gets to feeling better and walking soon instead of wobbly and swaying around
Thanks!!
@@Bobbymiller69-vo2zrme too! I am getting a little bit better every day ..
I have to say, it takes real skill to navigate from caster angles and geometry to chili rings. Well done. That's why this is an up and comer right here.
Thanks! Let's hope others feel the same!
My 82 CJ is dangerous to drive . Stock height , new springs , ball joints , shackles, the works. It’s all over the road with tight steering. You just saved the day, my caster measured at 2 deg . The pinion is pointed towards the sky! I literally parked this Jeep in storage 7 years ago . This Jeep is very nice , very original and it’s an automatic. I can’t figure out how it got like that . I know that it had worn ball joints and we replaced literally everything with stock parts (even springs ) It was at that point I noticed it drove like crap even after an alignment. Now I know what direction to go. Thanks
If it's stock height you may want to see if the leaf springs are in backwards. I've heard that has the same effect.
@@madgingercustoms thanks I’ll check that
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@madgingercustoms excellent! I am from about 40 north on the other side of the notch from there!
Love the channel. Liked and shared. A big hello from Upper east Tennessee. All my best.
We may be moving to Tennesse! Thanks for sharing!
Thank You Sir !! best info i have seen yet & seems affordable as well , my 79 cj5 is awful to drive , i need to check the steering box , but all the rest is fairly tight !! Thanks again!! new toYour channel , glad i came across it !! It is Hot here in East Texas right now !! Take Care
Awesome! Glad it was helpful.
Wow Sir, I finally found a video addressing exactly the issue in my jeep including the fact that I have an 83 jeep with 77 frame. I have spent crazy money putting band aids on m jeep and getting a bit closer but NEVER fixing the core issue. I pray/hope that my issue is the same as yours and can't wait to install and try it out. The wandering in the steering has perplexed professionals around me and myself but from what you described, I hope i have found the issue. I will comment again but SINCERELY, thank you for this video!!!!!!
I'm sure it will be better with some added caster. The majority of all wandering and light steering is geometry issues. I've actually helped several guys address this over email and FB Messenger after we put this video out. Please check back and let me know if it helped!! Good luck.
Again, Thank you sir and I hope your daughter is doing well. I have a 20 year old daughter (1 child) and very cool to see such a patient Dad working with his chiltens...especially a girl! Smart Mechanic/Patient Father...you're doing great sir!@@madgingercustoms
My 83 Dodge Ram is at 1.2 degree caster. I'm gonna go with a 2 degree shim and set it at the high side of the factory tolerance (3.5 degree) Hopefully that'll do it. If not, I'll do a 4 degree. You described the symptoms I was having perfectly and explained how to correct it. Thank you! (My ride 83 Dodge Ram W150 with Skyjacker 4" spring lift / 33x12.5x15 MT's)
Hope it helps out! Let me know!
Really good tips fam!!! Thank you for sharing!! Yeah the heat can be brutal, I can def relate!
Never owned a CJ/Wrangler so I can't talk about that condition. I of course have owned other Jeep SUVs that didn't have any steering problems. You are a pretty good and informative auto authority and great learner so keep this channel going, with Jess, as we all are listening to you. I really enjoyed the shoebox also.
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Looking at my 3” spring lifted CJ which I think drives pretty well has some front shims installed. They look aluminum and probably about 2 degrees, but we installed them 20 years ago backwards, to make the driveshaft angle better, not thinking about caster. I had the Jeep aligned recently and caster is +1 on both sides. I haven’t tried measuring using your technique I’m at least going to rotate those shims around for fun, might try some 4 degree wedges later.
Great info. I don’t know if I’ll ever use it but I can tell you know what your talking about.
Some of the issues you went over, I had back in high school with my Jeep. I’m lucky I never died!
The shims would have fixed my problem.
Shimming it and getting the ball joints back to the right angle will probably help them last longer too.
I learned most of this later in life as well!
I'm glad I got to watch this one I was going to do a lift on mine after watching this video I decided not to do it because I don't know how to do it awesome video
You can do it Bill!!! Give it a shot. I'm sure you'll get it done.
Facts or opinion or just general info. Whatever you throw out there is much appreciated bud.
Thanks for watching me ramble on!
Incredible! This old man just learned something new! You have explained this better than anyone else I have watched or asked. I sent you an email with a couple of questions. Just subscribed and will be following for more tips & tricks, Thanks!
I replied to your email. Good luck with it and thanks for watching our video!
I JUST read it & that sounds about right too. I would rather cut & re-weld perches but I am not a welder & I don't think anyone in my area can do it. Thanks BUNCHES for the advice!@@madgingercustoms
thanks for the tips. I have a 1991 YJ basically stock. Keeps on running! Hope Yes ankle gets better. Onward!
She's much better already! Thanks!
Good video, I just did this on my old jeep after changing axles to wagoneer axles , drives great now
Thanks man! Glad yours is driving mint.
Connecticut is SO sweaty this year! LOL
13:34 HAHAHAHAAA!
Hell yeah! Drives ok for a beater Jeep!
Thanx for the vid buddy!
It's legit sticky. Terrible to work in. I welded most of the day Saturday on the bead roller project we have coming up and it was rough!
@@madgingercustoms Oh dang!🥵😴
Nice one!!! Your subs have really exploded!!! Caster is a really overlooked angle. I learned most of what I know abought doing wheel alignments from older mechanics and using old alignment machines. These kids now a days are like if it's in the green it's good. A note: ideally you want +0.5 degrees more in the right to account for road crown. Not really possible on Solid Front axle unless you cut the inner C and turn it, and in my mind not worth it if it is driving good. On my Ranger I uses 79 Bronco axles and extended radius arms. Then It becomes a quest to find an operating angle that gives a good camber angle and a good driveline angle. (I have no idea how much lift it has it clears 37s on a Ranger 5.5 EB coils). Fortunately, there are camber inserts for the Dana 44 and I think we ended up with around 5 degrees. Wow It's probably been 15 years LOL. So after all the long windedness Front wheel drive and non power steering cars have less caster, like almost none and power steering cars and trucks have more now that you have power steering to overcome the larger amounts of caster. And as you stated more caster makes the car more stable on the road at faster speeds. Sorry about the randomness of all of that. LOL I've been busy and need to get caught up on a lot of peoples content. Keep cranking them out!!
It was the tire changer video that got us all the subs. I wasn't even going to do a video on that and now it has over 250k views. Guess that was lucky!
Thoroughly enjoy your content. Good info on procedures and products. Also the comedy. Subscribed
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I still laugh about the beast comment. No obese.
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Sorry about your boo boo Jess. Great info on the suspension, thanks for maybe saving a life. 👍👍🇨🇦
Thanks for sticking with us!! We appreciate it!
Aw thanks! It's getting a little bit better every day
Hey, my guy I hope u had a bless day and a great week🙏I apologize for anything that happen🙏keep making great content. I’ll be waiting for a turbo video😂🙏I appreciate everything you told me I learn a lot in my time and I want to thank you. stay bless much love to you guys🙏
Thanks for checking out the video Kyle!!!!
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How much did the shim affect your pinion angle?
It moved down the same degree right. It was up too far as it was. I probably should have included that.
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My 05 Rubicon is a nightmare to steer. Wish I had never put a 4.5 short arm lift on.
You may just be able to get an adjustable lower arm and correct it.
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I have 5.5 about on gladiator 2020 4.5 lift on 35 tires and it drives like a charm at any speed. Of course when other little car havr a hard time to deal with strong side wind so do I with this sea container aerodinamic shape of it 😂 other than that i old it with a light one hand 🤷♂️. Geometry will differ to so many factors. I found mine. No desd wobble but all is perfectly maintained. There is zero mouvement on no parts under my jeep
Good and informative video....Thanks
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Great video just subscribed. I’ve been also busy changing angles. Question is. Does your jeep return to center coming out of a turn ? Mine doesn’t. Thanks. Bob from Bucks PA
It does return well.
Great video love the jeep
Thanks for watching!!
Hi, I love the video. Quick question. after adding the shims will the axle naturally rotate back once you tighten everything & load up the spring? Or is there some special way to rotate the axle back so shims sit on the spring perch correctly? Thanks in advance!
Once you start to tighten it will roll into place on its own.
Thanks!
I love how you talk about Shims ... hahaha over here thats what we call fellas who dress up as Sheela's!! ;-)
That is hilarious!!!!!!
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That's funny my question is what do you call what we call shims?
@@Allen-hq7vy any response will get me suspended.
@@Allen-hq7vy To me it looks like a spacer of some kind im not exactly sure what that is.But yeah i dunno of an Aussie who uses the word shim or shims when building cars.
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So you are going for positive caster angle?
Correct.
Good.job👍👍👏👏👏cool jeep ❤
Thanks!
Does that change your front drive shaft pinion angle enough to make a negative difference?
It puts the pinion angle closer to stock, but if you went too far I suppose it would have negative effect. You'd have to get crazy with it though I suppose.
That makes sense. The pinion angle probably isn’t as big of a deal on the front axle anyway since you wouldn’t really be running highway speeds in four wheel drive. Thank for another entertaining video. Keep it up!
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Aldean concert. Wait. What?
Yeah Jason Aldean played in CT Saturday night. He got heat stroke or just heat exhaustion and walked off stage. They rescheduled for July 30th.
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