I’m making a Pt2 follow up on this lovely gamepad. I figured out the adaptive triggers, I forgot the kontrol freek section, and there’s some other thangs I wanna discuss 🙂🐎
I have one question since I'm on Xbox .. If I'm using the brook adapter would this controller be faster than the turtle beach ultra ? Also I would be nice if you could include the other stick options you have to by separately..like just a view on the webpage or something
Another thing you might want to add: It seems like they updated the way the D-pad swivels compared to the Vader 3 Pro (not sure how it is on the older Apex) so that you can't press all directions at once which is something that annoyed me with the Vader 3 Pro. Did it ever happen while playing? Likely not, but you know.
This is by far best controller ever! I owned the Vader 3 Pro and this Apex 4 just has a lot more quality/features to it. I've owned the Apex 4 for about a month now and never ran into any issues yet. The Triggers are so fun to mess around with the supported games. I've only played Monster Hunter Rise and Elden Ring with them. Great experience. The Thumb Sticks are phenomenal, very smooth with those anti-friction rings. The best part is having a very fast wireless polling rate. MY NUMBER 1 CONTROLLER!!!
This controller is essential to me because I play Rocket League and I definitely need a fast and accurate controller for the game. And this controller delivers.
Damn I might pick up one of these flydigi controllers especially since I do play a lot of FPS games and open worlds games on my downtime. Tho the only thing that concerns me is the QC of Flydigi.
Is it razer wolverine ultimate good? I've had my ultimate for a year and 4 months, no issues what so ever. I also have a Fusion Pro controller as backpack because I kept dropping my specta v1 and I broke the thumbstick.
Wish list for the Vader 4. Give me those tension adjustments, make the back buttons flatter, and do away with the snap off sticks or make them less wobbly and I have my endgame.
Been loving my Vader 3, but this does look really nice. It is odd how they leave out some features from the Vader 3 on the Apex despite charging about twice as much. Seems like an oversight, and it seems like this controller would be more competitive with those extra buttons and swappable clicky triggers.
I disagree with the placement of the home and capture button I think they are fine where they are and I like the adaptive triggers you can just simulate trigger stops if you want and the vibration mode is decent enough to work even with games not supported by flydigi you just have to adjust the settings a bit. Also you don't really need to press the home button to turn on the controller every time unless the controller is in sleep mode that's the only time I ever used it to wake it up. You don't have to flick the switch at the back and press the home button constantly. Other than that though great review as always been waiting for you to get your hands on this controller for a more in depth look. You and VK are the only controller reviewer I've seen go into detail with these stuff great work as always
Some info for those looking to use this on Series X wirelessly: Just got the controller and its awesome. Dpad really impressed me, as its the first modern controller to have a Dpad to compete with specialised 2D controllers I use like the M30. Extremely impressed with the feel and quality in all areas. The rubber grip feels somewhere between the Elite controllers and Scuff, as far as sticky feeling. Its not to far off from the Scuf rubber and definately feels better than the Elite. In order to use the controller on Series X wirelessly I used the Brook 2 adapter (wingman adapter) on the console, but it only worked if I had the wireless dongle plugged into the adapter. Some controllers work wirelessly on that adapter without any additional dongles, but in this case you need the dongle to be plugged into the Brook 2 adapter for it to work wirelessly. For wired just plug it in with a USB C cable to the Brook 2 adapter. Once you have the dongle plugged in just make sure you set the controller to PC and dongle mode. Theres also an Xinput setting in the "more" section, but that may already be set properly by default. This video also explains how to get the menu in English, so do that first. If it doesnt sync right away then try unplugging the Brook 2 adapter with the wireless dongle plugged into it, then replugging it. That fixed the issue for me. Sometimes it syncs right away. Also, the controller DOES support mapping keyboard keys on the back paddles. It seems only 1 keyboard key per back paddle, no combinations. I believe this was the review that said it didnt work. I can confirm it works as I was using hotkeys on an emulator to load and save states during gameplay with the back paddles. Worked awesome. Stay tuned !!
Awesome, just the comment I was looking for. Just bought this controller for my Xbox series x, I also bought wingman xb2 but I got the ban message. So I returned it and ordered the mayflash magic x but it should work the same
Im glad you found that information useful. I know how hard it is when trying to compare features and see what works and how to do shit. I buy alot of controllers myself. Interesting about the ban message. I havent seen any messages yet while using the adapter, and most of my controllers still work it seems. Glad you found a solution. Ive been using it as my main on Series X since I got it. @@TheFabulousTwixy
Great review, those are some insne numbers for input delay! Im happy with my g7 se especially after adding overclock in the update. What im waiting for if it'll ever happen is a new xbox 360 style design pro controller, imo best feeling controller in the hands ever
Great vid, there is a tab next to pc config to mod games for the adaptive triggers. It is just like the apex 3 though not alot of game support and it is not in english so it can be very confusing. The triggers though work just like the xbox elite 2 with full trigger pull on adjust stop though love it. Like you said about the sticks i got mine on aliexpress they share he same design as the vader and others so it can be used on any of their controllers just like their dpad. Also u can put any gif in the middle but takes only 35 frames so manly for animation. Those pads that you thought were adhesive where like those arts and craft scratch things back in school. Where you can scratch to let a design shrine through and replace the apex logo on the left side when you remove the faceplate. Sorry for the ramble xD
I’m pretty sure flydigi mentioned that and have now fixed it. Thanks for pointing it out tho! Edit: the thumb stick part that is, still pretty sure there is no replacement. That said, Amazon probably has warranty of some sort.
I currently own the 8bitdo ultimate and the SN30 pro +, is this a huge upgrade to that? Also, how does this compare to the dualsense (as a PC controller)?
Thank you for this great review man. I just saw this controller on an online shopping page and got interested because I am looking for a new controller to be able to play 2 player games. I searched for reviews and then I saw yours and I instantly clicked. I won’t forget last year that it is because of your review of the Vader 3 Pro that made me buy it and thank you so much for that because the product didn’t disappoint. 😁
My Apex 4 left analog broke in the inside while on COD that’s my only gripe with this controller is the plastic inside the stick is defective only had it for three weeks. Been seeing many people having the same issues with the joysticks breaking and becoming unusable 😢 Other than that I have no other complaints about it
I just gotta say: you're GOATED for the random Hot Rod clip! Nobody ever knows wtf I'm talking about when I mention that movie and it has so many quotable funny ass moments 🤣
After watching this I'd come to the same conclusion too. The apex 4 pro is a hard sell when the vader 3 pro has full reWASD support, more face buttons, better triggers and is cheaper.
I literally watch your videos before buying any controller and I have to admit, this is by far the best controller iv had! I was happy with the gamesir brand but this.. well it’s blows the competition away🔥 keep up the great work!
How does this controller stack up against the gamesir controllers? I have the g7 se and that is the best controller I’ve ever had. But I’m considering trying this controller. Would you say it’s better or worse?
The tension adjustments are really tempting, but I'd rather have trigger stops instead. Hopefully, the next iteration of the vader has tension adjustments, so we stallions and stallionets can blow our wad on that controller
I have a question, I see in all the reviews the input latency being praised of this controller, but on the gamepadle website, the cable latency for the flydigi apex4 appears to be twice as high as the dual sense. Is this correct? What are your thoughts on that? Because when I see youtubers testing with xinput, the flydigi apex4 scores better every time?
Damn i love these insanely high detail videos. You've always been my go to with controllers. I just wanted to share some of the difference i had with that controller being sold on my region in the PH 1). The apex 4 does have a complete edition with carry case, replacable thumb grips and charging dock (similar to what you'd get to the apex 2 bundle, perhaps that's something that only on my region was being sold? Not sure tho ) 2). There is actual game support for the adaptive triggers, a dude by the name of VK's channel talked about this in depth in his videos how he managed to make ps5 ported games on pc work with the adaptive trigger mappings with the controller through the flydigi software (i would love to have a follow up video ragarding your take on that software side of the controller) Anyway awesome video! You're really my fave controller dude on youtube! Cheers!
Mine is currently out for delivery. Once I saw you can remap the buttons on the controller itself, I bought it. Had to return the Vader 3 because I do not own a PC and couldn't change anything on the controller.
Did you manage to figure out what's the 'Adaptive Trigger' top menu tab in the software about? It's there for Apex 3 as well and has some games listed, like it could actually read from them and react dynamically? It's all in Chinese tho on Apex 3, and my Apex 4 is still in transit.
I love this controller. However I did by the brook xb2 converter which doesn't work. FYI for anyone hoping to use this on Xbox, the converter gets recognized as an unauthorized peripheral and will be blocked.
I just bought this looking forward to it, The back button position is what almost prevented me from trying this. I have no possible idea why you would not position them as you said so you can rest fingers on them.
Bro my left module is all messed up. I was using PS5 Lotus Teal it was a little tough to get them on. I got the Vader 4 pro havent opened it. Got the Apex 4 because it’s 330g and i love the triggers. But thus module problem doesn’t exist with the Vader 4 pro? If the Vader 4 pro was 300-330 I wouldn’t have gotten the Apex4. How do I fix it ? And also what do I use since kontrolfreeks won’t work.
Like simultaneously, or just period. As an Xbox and controller guy you should absolutely own the Brook XB2 if you don't already. I have gotten my money out of that converter for sure.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial it’s on the list of things to buy. Along with an AIM PS5 controller since their Hall effect thumbsticks aren’t available to Xbox yet.
After seeing this about 2 weeks ago I decided to buy one. Just received it a few days ago overall very good but I have sweaty hands so the rubber back has a few smudges, is there a way to clean it to keep it clean?
Was loving this controller. Hoping the replacement only after 3 days of play does not fail like this one did. Left stick is broken after only a few hours of play. Suddenly no tension in the left stick it just flip-flops around if you tilt the controller in any direction. I really like the back buttons over my Elite series 2. It's kind of a pain having to connect it to the Xbox X every time I wanted to use it but it only takes about 20 seconds to do that....could be user error who knows...it would be nice to just turn on the controller and go.
Can you please include a link in the description for the full software deep dive if you dont go over it in the video? I love your videos but its really frustrating not knowing what all the software can do. Not knowing if you can natively map keyboard keys is the only think thats holding me back from getting a new controller.
Yes sir. I wasn’t experiencing that effect though. Maybe I am just dumb, there are some people that say they have felt such effects and who am I to say they are wrong.
He failed to mention that the triggers adapt to only supported games and these supported games are updated periodically. Else, yes, you have to program the triggers manually for each non supported game. These triggers carried over from Apex 3 and I believe that in order for them to continue to support more games, the new controller had to have these adaptive triggers to justify the team to continue working on support. To be fair, the Dualsense does not support all games too and has no way to program for non supported games so the Apex 3/4 adaptive has more value.
Maybe I'm just too tired to have noticed it but I don't think you went if/what control freeks fit. Does sound like a great controller tho wish there was a full Analog to Clicky Digital Trigger switch rather than their solution that doesn't so as much but raising the overal cost but super excited to have adjustable stick tension. Maybe I can finally switch away from my elite series 2. Definitely the Controller that has me most excited in a while.
Hey bro, thanks for your review. One question, for you, witch controler is the best for competitive games like COD? Betwen The Apex 4 and the Gulikit KK3? Thanks
Question. In the software under the trigger lock can you essentially lock the triggers to make them feel like mouse clicks like controllers that have that option for their buttons and triggers? I currently have a battle beaver and play a lot of warzone and would love to upgrade but I’m too used to my mouse clicks. 😂
Great review, pays to look a little further for prices though. I bought it for 102 euro including case and phone holder thing (110USD). Bare bones it should be cheaper still.
How do u compare this with Victrix Pro BFG ? i got victrix atm and it has one of the best back buttons ever made for me personally.But i am missing 1ms input lag. So i am wondering to buy this one,but back buttons feels strange ? can u cover all 4 of them ?
The triggers is as advertised if you spend some time to dig up the software where there have a adaptive triggers column and can have like ps5 controller real time triggers effect.
I’ve been looking for a controller that allows you lower the stick tension, similar to the Xbox elite 2 controller. I’ve been hearing nothing but good things about this controller, so I’ll give it a try. Great review
Feels a bit like I throw out a comment & ask about this control & how it is for Xbox? Can you access all the settings on it & use it together with the Xbox & get all the functions? Feels like a worthy replacement before Xbox gets its Elite 3 controller out, if there even comes one this year.
Just got this controller and works great so far, however the only game it doesn't work with is call of duty. the back buttons wont work when I play cod and the controller itself doesn't work unless its in Dinput on cod which doesn't let you use the back buttons. Any solution to fix this? I won't be using this controller for COD because i have the vader 3 pro for my shooter games but I did wanna see how the controller felt while using the trigger resistance in a fast FPS
This is a good controller, but I am going to wait and see given the price. Maybe a better back button config. I still want a 4 button rear panel that is like the dualsense edge half domes.. except 4 half domes.
Can this controller connect natively via a wired/adapter connection to MacOS for the 1000hz or at least 500hz polling rate? I'm tired of MacOS being limited to subpar bluetooth connections. Thanks!
I was thinking of buying a vader for 50 bucks but ive seen this controller for 80 so i got this one instead, very very good controller. Mine 99% of the time always lands perfect 0.2 in the rest state on the sticks, it can go to like weird 0.32 but u have to nudge it a certain way to force it to be like that
hey kev have you gotten ur hands on the aim controllers with he sticks yet?? what u think abt it i was originally thinking abt hypr but all i’ve heard is issues from them. would love to see how the he sticks on aim are
My sister got me a Vapor 2 for my birthday a few years ago and the the triggers and the sticks were unresponsive so I have been too scared to get another one it felt good to use but it was almost useless so I’m just looking for other options now
Ok mine arrived today. Probably will never use it. I’m finding it really difficult to activate the lower rear buttons and impossible to reach the upper ones without moving my grip. Also on my elite two all four rear buttons are covered by 4 different fingers so even if I could reach them having to move a finger from bottom to top back buttons is very annoying. If I hold the controller where it feels natural my thumbs are nowhere near the sticks they are about 1/2 inch over. Very dissapointing big shame
What is the name of the thumstick cap on your vader 3 pro? I would appreciate a link or name so I can buy it. The stock thumstick is too small for my thumb.
If it had mouse click trigger stops and mouse click face buttons like the Vader 3 pro, this would blow out every other controller by far. For me mouse click trigger stops are a must and at $160 it’s disappointing to not see. Once they release the Vader 4 pro I think it will outshine the Apex 4 if it carries its best aspects over with some of the newer features from the apex 4
hey yo one question, is the apex 3 the exact same shape as the vader 3 pro/apex3 ? orderd a few days ago a t4 kaleid, and with the grip i have middle finger on trigger and idex finger on bumper, my pinkie finger cramps, have this problem with many controllers ds4 feels just great ^^, but to my question the apex 4 i can only order on aliexpress(I'm from germany/no amazon available) etc so with sh'tty return etc i only want to order it there when I'm 100% sure i will keep it ^^
Just to confirm before purchasing. I play competitive fps games, so I'm wondering can the triggers be set to instant activation in the app like an elite controller, correct?
How do these custom curves and sensitivity effect actual in-game settings like there curve deadzoen or games AA will they figut each other if you run a dynamic in game curve but on lad youve set up a good liner ect
hell yea, im waiting for my eva version to show up. small thing, in their software there is dualsense emulation for SIE games (not all of them, its a whitelist as they implement it). vk touched on this in his video. also the recentering 'spring' is more of a lever thats outside of the main housing of the stick.
I've had it for a week and it has replaced my Scuf envision pro. I put a .gif of Nerv and the controller looks great. The only drawback I have is that although the trigger lock system works very well, I prefer the mechanical trigger lock.
@@Politobm awesome. I too plan on using a nerv alert gif for the screen (they show this in a few marketing shots, is it built in or did you have to make/source it?). I havent had a controller with the option but I think I would also prefer a mechanical trigger lock but I really wanted something that could emulate the dualsense triggers so I figured it was worth the tradeoff for simulated short-throw triggers. I also felt it was worth the tradeoff for the new sticks since they, based on everything I have seen online, present the ultimate solution to drift with external tension springs and their new lever system.. time will tell, I plan to use this on the switch where that will be pretty important so fingers crossed that its good enough.
Would you still recommend the Elite Series 2 in 2024, despite all the known (potential) issues? I wanted to get a PS5 Controller like the Edge, Scuf or Aim, but they don't seem viable for me. I'm on PC. I don't own a PS5. Also, I don't want to go through a long waiting time and customs.
I’m making a Pt2 follow up on this lovely gamepad. I figured out the adaptive triggers, I forgot the kontrol freek section, and there’s some other thangs I wanna discuss 🙂🐎
I have one question since I'm on Xbox ..
If I'm using the brook adapter would this controller be faster than the turtle beach ultra ?
Also I would be nice if you could include the other stick options you have to by separately..like just a view on the webpage or something
Nice haircut handsome.
Another thing you might want to add:
It seems like they updated the way the D-pad swivels compared to the Vader 3 Pro (not sure how it is on the older Apex) so that you can't press all directions at once which is something that annoyed me with the Vader 3 Pro. Did it ever happen while playing? Likely not, but you know.
Can I use Xbox?
noice looking forward to part 2!
This is by far best controller ever! I owned the Vader 3 Pro and this Apex 4 just has a lot more quality/features to it. I've owned the Apex 4 for about a month now and never ran into any issues yet. The Triggers are so fun to mess around with the supported games. I've only played Monster Hunter Rise and Elden Ring with them. Great experience. The Thumb Sticks are phenomenal, very smooth with those anti-friction rings. The best part is having a very fast wireless polling rate. MY NUMBER 1 CONTROLLER!!!
This controller is essential to me because I play Rocket League and I definitely need a fast and accurate controller for the game. And this controller delivers.
Damn I might pick up one of these flydigi controllers especially since I do play a lot of FPS games and open worlds games on my downtime. Tho the only thing that concerns me is the QC of Flydigi.
Custom screen is a nice feature too, upload any gif or pic on it and it'll be there! Like it gives my controller character!
Is it razer wolverine ultimate good? I've had my ultimate for a year and 4 months, no issues what so ever. I also have a Fusion Pro controller as backpack because I kept dropping my specta v1 and I broke the thumbstick.
@@brucieplays3720 Yes, it's better by a lot!!!
was just reading about this and you upload a review. Perfect timing as always chief. Only one place to go for rollers now this guy does it all
I try
About the software, you can check which game support addaptive trigger if you click "Addaptive Trigger" button on the top left beside the PC Config.
Wish list for the Vader 4. Give me those tension adjustments, make the back buttons flatter, and do away with the snap off sticks or make them less wobbly and I have my endgame.
Great review, Apex 4 looking sick! Bought Vader 3 for my little brother while ago, can't wait for Vader 4 for myself
Good choice!
Ty for a very honest and Gobally review.
My pleasure. Lol gobally
lmao I see what you did there
Been loving my Vader 3, but this does look really nice. It is odd how they leave out some features from the Vader 3 on the Apex despite charging about twice as much. Seems like an oversight, and it seems like this controller would be more competitive with those extra buttons and swappable clicky triggers.
They are probably leaving that out on purpose for the vader 4. Which is what I’m waiting for
А когда выпустят в продажу Vader 4 Pro?@@John-wu4rc
what extra buttons
The vader 3 pro was great buy. Thanks for that Kevin. Hopefully we get more features if they make a Vader 4 pro.
I disagree with the placement of the home and capture button I think they are fine where they are and I like the adaptive triggers you can just simulate trigger stops if you want and the vibration mode is decent enough to work even with games not supported by flydigi you just have to adjust the settings a bit. Also you don't really need to press the home button to turn on the controller every time unless the controller is in sleep mode that's the only time I ever used it to wake it up. You don't have to flick the switch at the back and press the home button constantly. Other than that though great review as always been waiting for you to get your hands on this controller for a more in depth look.
You and VK are the only controller reviewer I've seen go into detail with these stuff great work as always
we need a top 5 controller from you asap
Some info for those looking to use this on Series X wirelessly:
Just got the controller and its awesome. Dpad really impressed me, as its the first modern controller to have a Dpad to compete with specialised 2D controllers I use like the M30. Extremely impressed with the feel and quality in all areas. The rubber grip feels somewhere between the Elite controllers and Scuff, as far as sticky feeling. Its not to far off from the Scuf rubber and definately feels better than the Elite.
In order to use the controller on Series X wirelessly I used the Brook 2 adapter (wingman adapter) on the console, but it only worked if I had the wireless dongle plugged into the adapter. Some controllers work wirelessly on that adapter without any additional dongles, but in this case you need the dongle to be plugged into the Brook 2 adapter for it to work wirelessly. For wired just plug it in with a USB C cable to the Brook 2 adapter. Once you have the dongle plugged in just make sure you set the controller to PC and dongle mode. Theres also an Xinput setting in the "more" section, but that may already be set properly by default. This video also explains how to get the menu in English, so do that first. If it doesnt sync right away then try unplugging the Brook 2 adapter with the wireless dongle plugged into it, then replugging it. That fixed the issue for me. Sometimes it syncs right away.
Also, the controller DOES support mapping keyboard keys on the back paddles. It seems only 1 keyboard key per back paddle, no combinations. I believe this was the review that said it didnt work. I can confirm it works as I was using hotkeys on an emulator to load and save states during gameplay with the back paddles. Worked awesome.
Stay tuned !!
Awesome, just the comment I was looking for. Just bought this controller for my Xbox series x, I also bought wingman xb2 but I got the ban message. So I returned it and ordered the mayflash magic x but it should work the same
Im glad you found that information useful. I know how hard it is when trying to compare features and see what works and how to do shit. I buy alot of controllers myself.
Interesting about the ban message. I havent seen any messages yet while using the adapter, and most of my controllers still work it seems. Glad you found a solution. Ive been using it as my main on Series X since I got it. @@TheFabulousTwixy
@@TheFabulousTwixy update?
@@MitchellVH works really good!
@@TheFabulousTwixy wired into the mayflash? Any input lag?
Great review, those are some insne numbers for input delay! Im happy with my g7 se especially after adding overclock in the update. What im waiting for if it'll ever happen is a new xbox 360 style design pro controller, imo best feeling controller in the hands ever
Indeed
Great vid, there is a tab next to pc config to mod games for the adaptive triggers. It is just like the apex 3 though not alot of game support and it is not in english so it can be very confusing. The triggers though work just like the xbox elite 2 with full trigger pull on adjust stop though love it. Like you said about the sticks i got mine on aliexpress they share he same design as the vader and others so it can be used on any of their controllers just like their dpad. Also u can put any gif in the middle but takes only 35 frames so manly for animation. Those pads that you thought were adhesive where like those arts and craft scratch things back in school. Where you can scratch to let a design shrine through and replace the apex logo on the left side when you remove the faceplate. Sorry for the ramble xD
I seriously appreciate the time and effort you take to make these. Awesome
Warning: Thumbsticks break easily! No warranty, no replacement parts available if that happens!
I’m pretty sure flydigi mentioned that and have now fixed it. Thanks for pointing it out tho!
Edit: the thumb stick part that is, still pretty sure there is no replacement. That said, Amazon probably has warranty of some sort.
@@loganasaurusrex82461 year warranty if purchased through Amazon
Was waiting for this video, thanks!
Hope you enjoyed it!
I currently own the 8bitdo ultimate and the SN30 pro +, is this a huge upgrade to that? Also, how does this compare to the dualsense (as a PC controller)?
Thank you for this great review man. I just saw this controller on an online shopping page and got interested because I am looking for a new controller to be able to play 2 player games. I searched for reviews and then I saw yours and I instantly clicked. I won’t forget last year that it is because of your review of the Vader 3 Pro that made me buy it and thank you so much for that because the product didn’t disappoint. 😁
Just saw videos about this, glad your review came out.
Hope you enjoy it!
My Apex 4 left analog broke in the inside while on COD that’s my only gripe with this controller is the plastic inside the stick is defective only had it for three weeks. Been seeing many people having the same issues with the joysticks breaking and becoming unusable 😢
Other than that I have no other complaints about it
Loved the makeup mirror, always felt they were needed in other controllers
The Triggers work as they say, but you need to open the game through their software and choose the DS option, not any game has it btw.
I just gotta say: you're GOATED for the random Hot Rod clip! Nobody ever knows wtf I'm talking about when I mention that movie and it has so many quotable funny ass moments 🤣
Thanks. It’s such a funny movie
Who's big inch
I bought this a month ago and I love it. Out of the box, amazing.
Great to hear!
I wish the back button design were better and they need to return the extra bumper buttons like Apex 2 had
After watching this I'd come to the same conclusion too. The apex 4 pro is a hard sell when the vader 3 pro has full reWASD support, more face buttons, better triggers and is cheaper.
I literally watch your videos before buying any controller and I have to admit, this is by far the best controller iv had! I was happy with the gamesir brand but this.. well it’s blows the competition away🔥 keep up the great work!
Great to hear!
How does this controller stack up against the gamesir controllers? I have the g7 se and that is the best controller I’ve ever had. But I’m considering trying this controller. Would you say it’s better or worse?
The tension adjustments are really tempting, but I'd rather have trigger stops instead. Hopefully, the next iteration of the vader has tension adjustments, so we stallions and stallionets can blow our wad on that controller
That makes perfect sense Minty
Drill a 1mm hole and put a 2mm screw inside the trigger
Good video as always, seems like a good controller, the design is cool.
I have a question, I see in all the reviews the input latency being praised of this controller, but on the gamepadle website, the cable latency for the flydigi apex4 appears to be twice as high as the dual sense. Is this correct? What are your thoughts on that? Because when I see youtubers testing with xinput, the flydigi apex4 scores better every time?
Damn i love these insanely high detail videos. You've always been my go to with controllers.
I just wanted to share some of the difference i had with that controller being sold on my region in the PH
1). The apex 4 does have a complete edition with carry case, replacable thumb grips and charging dock (similar to what you'd get to the apex 2 bundle, perhaps that's something that only on my region was being sold? Not sure tho )
2). There is actual game support for the adaptive triggers, a dude by the name of VK's channel talked about this in depth in his videos how he managed to make ps5 ported games on pc work with the adaptive trigger mappings with the controller through the flydigi software (i would love to have a follow up video ragarding your take on that software side of the controller)
Anyway awesome video! You're really my fave controller dude on youtube!
Cheers!
Mine is currently out for delivery. Once I saw you can remap the buttons on the controller itself, I bought it. Had to return the Vader 3 because I do not own a PC and couldn't change anything on the controller.
That also can be done on a smartphone
So tf you using a pc controller for if you’re not on pc
Did you manage to figure out what's the 'Adaptive Trigger' top menu tab in the software about? It's there for Apex 3 as well and has some games listed, like it could actually read from them and react dynamically? It's all in Chinese tho on Apex 3, and my Apex 4 is still in transit.
Yes I figured it out. Pretty impressive I’ll make a follow up
great, thanks, I'll be sure to watch that :)
Those look amazing. I hope they are still available in a couple of months. Truly game changing mod!
Not understand the placement of the 2 inner back buttons... like the kk3 but the tumbstick look great on this controller... 😢
What controller did he mention at 11:36? Found it AimBack Pro PS5
I love this controller. However I did by the brook xb2 converter which doesn't work. FYI for anyone hoping to use this on Xbox, the converter gets recognized as an unauthorized peripheral and will be blocked.
I just bought this looking forward to it, The back button position is what almost prevented me from trying this. I have no possible idea why you would not position them as you said so you can rest fingers on them.
Bro my left module is all messed up. I was using PS5 Lotus Teal it was a little tough to get them on. I got the Vader 4 pro havent opened it. Got the Apex 4 because it’s 330g and i love the triggers. But thus module problem doesn’t exist with the Vader 4 pro? If the Vader 4 pro was 300-330 I wouldn’t have gotten the Apex4. How do I fix it ? And also what do I use since kontrolfreeks won’t work.
I wish that connecting to a pc also allowed connectivity to Xbox.
Like simultaneously, or just period. As an Xbox and controller guy you should absolutely own the Brook XB2 if you don't already. I have gotten my money out of that converter for sure.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial it’s on the list of things to buy. Along with an AIM PS5 controller since their Hall effect thumbsticks aren’t available to Xbox yet.
Hey can you link the video you made about 8000hz ???@GamerHeavenOfficial
@@GamerHeavenOfficial can you link the video you made over 8000hz???
After seeing this about 2 weeks ago I decided to buy one. Just received it a few days ago overall very good but I have sweaty hands so the rubber back has a few smudges, is there a way to clean it to keep it clean?
Thx for the video but do you have a ps5 alternative?❤
Was loving this controller. Hoping the replacement only after 3 days of play does not fail like this one did. Left stick is broken after only a few hours of play. Suddenly no tension in the left stick it just flip-flops around if you tilt the controller in any direction. I really like the back buttons over my Elite series 2. It's kind of a pain having to connect it to the Xbox X every time I wanted to use it but it only takes about 20 seconds to do that....could be user error who knows...it would be nice to just turn on the controller and go.
Bro please review the EasySMX X10 controller because it has good features and joysticks as others say and I want your opinion on it
Can you please include a link in the description for the full software deep dive if you dont go over it in the video? I love your videos but its really frustrating not knowing what all the software can do. Not knowing if you can natively map keyboard keys is the only think thats holding me back from getting a new controller.
24:22 Doesnt "Adaptive Trigger" in the top row give you the option to use game based haptic feedback?
Yes sir. I wasn’t experiencing that effect though. Maybe I am just dumb, there are some people that say they have felt such effects and who am I to say they are wrong.
THE SCREEN IS DUCKING RGB, USING FLYDIGI SPACE CENTRE YOU CAN PUT A CUSTOM GIF
Thanks for the review. I've been wishing one of these would emulate Dualsense but looks like I got to keep waiting.
You and me both!
@@GamerHeavenOfficial Has there been any update on that leaked Xbox Controller? That still seems like our best hope.
Why don't they put the vader 3 triggers on this? So Confusing.
He failed to mention that the triggers adapt to only supported games and these supported games are updated periodically. Else, yes, you have to program the triggers manually for each non supported game. These triggers carried over from Apex 3 and I believe that in order for them to continue to support more games, the new controller had to have these adaptive triggers to justify the team to continue working on support. To be fair, the Dualsense does not support all games too and has no way to program for non supported games so the Apex 3/4 adaptive has more value.
Maybe I'm just too tired to have noticed it but I don't think you went if/what control freeks fit.
Does sound like a great controller tho wish there was a full Analog to Clicky Digital Trigger switch rather than their solution that doesn't so as much but raising the overal cost but super excited to have adjustable stick tension. Maybe I can finally switch away from my elite series 2.
Definitely the Controller that has me most excited in a while.
I missed the KF compatibility section but I’m doing a part 2 follow up vid in a couple days cause I have some more to say about this lovely controller
Is there a option to customize the Pumpers? 🤔
Hey bro, thanks for your review. One question, for you, witch controler is the best for competitive games like COD? Betwen The Apex 4 and the Gulikit KK3? Thanks
Wheres the extra face buttons they started adding on older models and shoulder m buttons
Question. In the software under the trigger lock can you essentially lock the triggers to make them feel like mouse clicks like controllers that have that option for their buttons and triggers? I currently have a battle beaver and play a lot of warzone and would love to upgrade but I’m too used to my mouse clicks. 😂
4:46 Huh? What analog module grants you access to the recentering spring without desoldering and disassembling the module itself?
he meant the plastic shell
It’s weird because mine just broke today well damaged in shipping
At 32:24 it states you can use the brook xb2 to connect to Xbox. Does anyone know the difference between the xb2 and the xb3?
I’m an it now lol
@@GamerHeavenOfficialI’m sorry, I’m not sure what that means
Did you do an over clock with the lord of mice on this controller?
I thought the brook adapter was disabled for Xbox now? Is there another adapter thats compatible with Xbox series x now?
It’s not disabled
@@GamerHeavenOfficial ok cool! All the videos I've watched said since the third party update it didn't work anymore. Thanks for the quick reply!
@GamerHeavenOfficial so you can use the adapter, just got it today and updated it to the latest firmware, I still get the ban screen
Is there any other adapters that are compatible?
Because I was just about to buy the Brook Adapter but I'm now hearing about the ban
Great review, pays to look a little further for prices though. I bought it for 102 euro including case and phone holder thing (110USD). Bare bones it should be cheaper still.
I’m new to this. How can this be used with the Xbox series x wirelessly?
Stupid question - can it be used with ps3 like dualshock 3 or sixaxis? Wanna play MGS4 with this masterpiece
which one do you recommend to use in forza and similar games. vader 3 pro? apex 4?
How do u compare this with Victrix Pro BFG ? i got victrix atm and it has one of the best back buttons ever made for me personally.But i am missing 1ms input lag. So i am wondering to buy this one,but back buttons feels strange ? can u cover all 4 of them ?
The triggers is as advertised if you spend some time to dig up the software where there have a adaptive triggers column and can have like ps5 controller real time triggers effect.
I’ve been looking for a controller that allows you lower the stick tension, similar to the Xbox elite 2 controller. I’ve been hearing nothing but good things about this controller, so I’ll give it a try. Great review
I can't find replacement thumbsticks anywhere for this controller
Love the show so much perspective and fun chats great job guys and more videos 😀👍🧃🍒🍓🍅🌶🍞🥐🥓🍔🍟🍕🥞🍢🍨🍩🍪🍾🍷🍸🍹🍾🍾🍾🍾
That’s so many emojis lol
How much emojis do you want? YES
Can you swap the face buttons around? I need my right A
Feels a bit like I throw out a comment & ask about this control & how it is for Xbox? Can you access all the settings on it & use it together with the Xbox & get all the functions? Feels like a worthy replacement before Xbox gets its Elite 3 controller out, if there even comes one this year.
Just got this controller and works great so far, however the only game it doesn't work with is call of duty. the back buttons wont work when I play cod and the controller itself doesn't work unless its in Dinput on cod which doesn't let you use the back buttons. Any solution to fix this? I won't be using this controller for COD because i have the vader 3 pro for my shooter games but I did wanna see how the controller felt while using the trigger resistance in a fast FPS
can you program keyboard QWERTY keys in the software? Also, does gyro have ratcheting capabilities? I.e. always on but press button for reset.
Apex 4 Have you tried Forza 5 yet? for me vibration not working and adaptive trigget too
This is a good controller, but I am going to wait and see given the price. Maybe a better back button config. I still want a 4 button rear panel that is like the dualsense edge half domes.. except 4 half domes.
Can this controller connect natively via a wired/adapter connection to MacOS for the 1000hz or at least 500hz polling rate? I'm tired of MacOS being limited to subpar bluetooth connections. Thanks!
I was thinking of buying a vader for 50 bucks but ive seen this controller for 80 so i got this one instead, very very good controller. Mine 99% of the time always lands perfect 0.2 in the rest state on the sticks, it can go to like weird 0.32 but u have to nudge it a certain way to force it to be like that
Where did you find it for 80 bucks?
Is the 2.4ghz dongle any better than the Vader 3 Pro? My V3P disconnects constantly, and I won't show as anything other than a mouse over BT.
hey kev have you gotten ur hands on the aim controllers with he sticks yet?? what u think abt it i was originally thinking abt hypr but all i’ve heard is issues from them. would love to see how the he sticks on aim are
Razer wolverine v2 pro vs fydigi apex 4 What's better ?
How's the d pad compared to the envision pro? Great vid!
My sister got me a Vapor 2 for my birthday a few years ago and the the triggers and the sticks were unresponsive so I have been too scared to get another one it felt good to use but it was almost useless so I’m just looking for other options now
Ok mine arrived today. Probably will never use it. I’m finding it really difficult to activate the lower rear buttons and impossible to reach the upper ones without moving my grip. Also on my elite two all four rear buttons are covered by 4 different fingers so even if I could reach them having to move a finger from bottom to top back buttons is very annoying. If I hold the controller where it feels natural my thumbs are nowhere near the sticks they are about 1/2 inch over. Very dissapointing big shame
What is the name of the thumstick cap on your vader 3 pro? I would appreciate a link or name so I can buy it. The stock thumstick is too small for my thumb.
If it had mouse click trigger stops and mouse click face buttons like the Vader 3 pro, this would blow out every other controller by far. For me mouse click trigger stops are a must and at $160 it’s disappointing to not see. Once they release the Vader 4 pro I think it will outshine the Apex 4 if it carries its best aspects over with some of the newer features from the apex 4
i just wish it had physical trigger stops bro 😭😭😭😭
hey yo one question, is the apex 3 the exact same shape as the vader 3 pro/apex3 ? orderd a few days ago a t4 kaleid, and with the grip i have middle finger on trigger and idex finger on bumper, my pinkie finger cramps, have this problem with many controllers ds4 feels just great ^^, but to my question the apex 4 i can only order on aliexpress(I'm from germany/no amazon available) etc so with sh'tty return etc i only want to order it there when I'm 100% sure i will keep it ^^
Is this strictly PS5 or does it work on Xbox too? What’s their version of this controller for Xbox? Great video! Keep it up.
Any plans to review EasySMX X15?
Yes I do
How soon will it be if you can tell it?@@GamerHeavenOfficial
Great review of the product! And if you were living in Asia, this controller actually cost around $70. :) - So I bought it right away :)
Just to confirm before purchasing. I play competitive fps games, so I'm wondering can the triggers be set to instant activation in the app like an elite controller, correct?
How do these custom curves and sensitivity effect actual in-game settings like there curve deadzoen or games AA will they figut each other if you run a dynamic in game curve but on lad youve set up a good liner ect
hell yea, im waiting for my eva version to show up. small thing, in their software there is dualsense emulation for SIE games (not all of them, its a whitelist as they implement it). vk touched on this in his video. also the recentering 'spring' is more of a lever thats outside of the main housing of the stick.
I've had it for a week and it has replaced my Scuf envision pro. I put a .gif of Nerv and the controller looks great. The only drawback I have is that although the trigger lock system works very well, I prefer the mechanical trigger lock.
@@Politobm awesome. I too plan on using a nerv alert gif for the screen (they show this in a few marketing shots, is it built in or did you have to make/source it?). I havent had a controller with the option but I think I would also prefer a mechanical trigger lock but I really wanted something that could emulate the dualsense triggers so I figured it was worth the tradeoff for simulated short-throw triggers. I also felt it was worth the tradeoff for the new sticks since they, based on everything I have seen online, present the ultimate solution to drift with external tension springs and their new lever system.. time will tell, I plan to use this on the switch where that will be pretty important so fingers crossed that its good enough.
Can i use this with xbox series x with gulikit goku adapter?
Would you still recommend the Elite Series 2 in 2024, despite all the known (potential) issues? I wanted to get a PS5 Controller like the Edge, Scuf or Aim, but they don't seem viable for me. I'm on PC. I don't own a PS5. Also, I don't want to go through a long waiting time and customs.
Scuff envision pro... Just don't use icue. That's the source of all the problems. Perfect pad otherwise
@@allansm66 Scuff envision pro is awful lol
@@supernice_auto the the best.
@@allansm66 HAHAHAHH it's awful
@@supernice_auto the GOAT. proven fact.
the triggers work like ps5, you need to load the game from the software and set to ds mode
How do I use this controller on Xbox series x? What adapter is preferred?
Any knowing when a vader 4 pro will come out?
The triggers kind of killed my interest in this controller. Sticking with the vader 3 pro
Can you add a higher right thumb sticks?
Curious what the polling rate using the blutooth adapter on xbox would be