Very clear and I do understand. I have been searching the internet trying to find an answer to a related question... How do publishing splits work for a new arrangement of a public domain song between the arranger and performer?
@@SteveWallaceMusic the performer receives publishing royalties only if they are a songwriter (they will get their digital performance royalties). Unless, of course, you agree to give them some of those. You can copyright your arrangement of the song (crediting the original writers) stating what you added. You get those for that arrangement. musicbusinessmadeeasy.com/coaching
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy thanks for the reply! For sure! I am totally aware about writers only splitting publishing for a newly written song. But I wasn’t sure about public domain works and who gets the publishing split in that case. Often the singer is “arranging” the vocal line, so I would think in that case they might be owed a split, so that’s what I mentioned the performer receiving a portion of the publishing on a PD work as a co-arranger as it were. I think I have a clearer picture of how it should be done. Thanks again! 👍🏾
Thanks for the great video but I think we need a part 2. A couple of questions. 1. How to search for songs before 1964 that were not renewed ? 2. What does it mean that songs before 1978, copyright renewals were required and how does that overlap with 1964 and 1923 ? 3. How to search for songs where artist released all of their rights to the public ? 4. How to search for songs where artist didn't have a copyright notice before 1989 and how does that overlap with 1964 and 1923 ? 5. How to search for songs without a composer ? 6. What defines a folk song ? Thank you for your unwavering support and I love the Jethro Tull image !
Good morning John. Thanks for watching! 1. copyright.gov in the search put in the year 2. When you look at the songs from 1964, then you go to pdinfo website and type in the title to see if the song is in the PD. You have to do work to find some information. It's not always a simple answer. 2. If you wrote a song BEFORE 1978, for example, in your liner notes on a CD, you had to have the copyright information such as, (c) 1977 John Bercik. 3. Those songs would already be listed in the public domain. You would have to play detective on this one. Google no copyright songs and there are resources. All of the resources in the videos are places to start. You have to search for what you're looking for. It's not simple, nor cut and dry. Here's a source: www.artlist.io 4. Not having a copyright notice is completely different from whether or not a songwriter renewed their copyright at the end of it's life. If one of my songs rights were ending at the end of 1978 and I didn't renew it, is fell into the PD. It did have a copyright. It doesn't overlap, it just means that those are other criteria where songs could wind up in the PD. Songs written before 1923 are in the PD, songs that were written before 1978 and at the end of those songs rights period, if they were not renewed when the time for renewal fell into the PD. Renewals after 1978 are no longer required. Songs now last for the life of the last surviving author plus 70 years. The song will long outlast the writer! 4. Again, copyright.gov in the search field type in the year you're looking for. Look through the list, find the title, songwriter etc. Take that info and go to the public domain information and search to see if the information is there. You can also go to google and type in songs in the public domain and add the specific year to search. Or you can pay to have research done if you're looking for something specific. 6. What is considered a folk song? Folk music is the music that is sung by the people, not music recorded in a studio or performed on a stage. People learn these songs by singing them with others. The songs are passed down from generation to generation, and are often changed as they are passed down (such changing is known as the "folk process"). Concerning the Jethro Tull image, that image, I searched for "free for noncommercial use" to find it. Thank you! Please tell your music creative friends about my channel. I would love to grow it! Thanks for your support.
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy Thanks! I posted your links to 4 different forums today to get people here. Keep on with the great info. This seems to be a very messy rabbit hole to find all of the public domain songs that meet the legal criteria. It's never dull.
@@bluesky2145 laughing! True! May I ask your fascination in wanting to learn every possible PD song? I'm just curious. What are you planning on doing? What is your goal with this? Thank you so much for sharing. I'm sincerely grateful! God bless you.
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy we are looking to do jazz, Christmas and gospel albums of PD material so of course I naively though there would be a simple list of them by category, not some quagmire of database search queries required combined with wiki page lookups combined with date overlap criteria to get it. I still want it but have no idea how to get it. Would you consider a video going through some search examples for each of the criteria you listed to help solve this puzzle for us mere mortals? Thanks! I have another video idea too....if the goal is sales of music on iTunes and cdbaby , does it make sense to put our music on streaming platforms too? It would seem to that on one hand you get exposure through listens but on the other hand, they dont have to buy it to hear it.
@@bluesky2145Bercik let's start with the download and streaming question first: Yes, it does make sense, however, you can do a release first of the music being available only as downloads. Your true fans will purchase the downloads, and hopefully, new supporters will too when your marketing leads them to what's available. After you've done all you can to inspire, and encourage buyers, then make the music available on all streaming platforms. You don't have to do it all at once. Most times music lovers will choose streaming over downloads if that's what's available to them on release day. I mean why pay, when it's free! Your fans mostly will still purchase, but I would offer the downloads first! Then later, streaming. I hope that helps. With your PD searching, unfortunately, that's the way it is. I've included some other resources above in the description. www.pdinfo.com/pd-music-genres/pd-christmas-songs.php www.pdinfo.com/pd-song-list/search-pd-songs.php
You're welcome! Yes, if those songs are for sure in the PD. Here's a link to help. Thanks for watching! www.pdinfo.com/pd-music-genres/pd-christmas-songs.php
Never thought about using PD song lyrics as a tool/resource to help you in your own lyric writing. What a great suggestion! As always, great and helpful content here on your channel. Thank you.
Speaking very specifically about Christian music, primarily old hymns, this is my preferred genre. I write Christian folk/gospel type songs, and do covers of old public domain hymns in my own style, sometimes tweaking the lyrics, adding a verse or chorus as needed. I always credit the original source and the Christian who wrote the song or hymn. You can take a public domain poem, as I have done often, and use it, creating and composing a song. There are thousands of public domain poems and hymns that can be reintroduced with a novel melody, with an updated tune. Why do this? Well, the answer is easy. It is simply to share the word of God, the love of God, the message of the Gospel of salvation in a new way, to bring souls to Christ, to point to Him, remembering it is not about us, or our performance, or our ego, or for monetary profit or recognition.....it is about using any talent you have as an instrument of God. Remember John 3:30 "He must increase, but I must decrease." Any Christian songwriters out there? Don't try to make a name for yourself. It is not about you, or vain pride. Just use your musical skills for the Lord. Walk humbly before your God. Post your songs on UA-cam and share them without worrying about making money or getting famous. Make your living from plain old hard work. Let your music be consecrated to God. That is my advice. You don't need a studio or much equipment. All I do is play my guitar and sing into a mic attached to an IPad and record at my desk in my den. I never video my own face, because that takes attention away from the message, and besides, music was made to hear. Who wants to see another old white guy on a guitar? So I use still photos with my songs, and press record. I love doing this, researching songs, looking for ideas, and taking walks...and on a walk, I have received more ideas for songs than elsewhere. In conclusion, put your effort into serving your Lord and Savior. He has blessed you, and someday you will meet Him face to face in glory. Go ahead, get started. Don't waste time anymore. Warmest regards. Soli Deo Gloria. JJF
Wow... I am a former Pastor and have been serving the Lord fully for 46 years... my platform that He gave me here specifically is to teach the music business. In that I work really hard still to shine my light. I still sing and minister on my music page. Thanks for watching!
If it's in the public domain, all should be well; however, it's possible that someone may still own the copyright. You may receive a copyright claim, but that's alright if you do. Please watch this video. It explains it. ua-cam.com/video/HxmTXkFx44w/v-deo.html
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy Thanks for the reply. Are you saying though that Mozart's music could still have a copyright even though his music was all written before 1923? How is that possible? Or did I misunderstand you?
@@jeffreysmith7542 it’s possible if the music went to an estate or family/heirs kept up with re-registrations... not saying that’s the case. Just saying, check to see if it’s actually in the public domain. Never assume that it is.
@@jeffreysmith7542 here are two sites that you can use in searching: 1. www.pdinfo.com/public-domain-music-list.php 2.www.readwritethink.org/sites/default/files/resources/lesson_images/lesson1085/PDSources.html
Awwww, sometimes God's timing eludes all of our understanding. I pray that I will be able to reach every single person who needs to hear what I'm teaching while I'm yet able to do so. Thank you so much for your kind and encouraging words. it means a lot!
You can use any material in the public domain to make wonderful new creations? Will you be one? Let me know below!
Very clear and I do understand. I have been searching the internet trying to find an answer to a related question... How do publishing splits work for a new arrangement of a public domain song between the arranger and performer?
@@SteveWallaceMusic the performer receives publishing royalties only if they are a songwriter (they will get their digital performance royalties). Unless, of course, you agree to give them some of those. You can copyright your arrangement of the song (crediting the original writers) stating what you added. You get those for that arrangement.
musicbusinessmadeeasy.com/coaching
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy thanks for the reply! For sure! I am totally aware about writers only splitting publishing for a newly written song. But I wasn’t sure about public domain works and who gets the publishing split in that case. Often the singer is “arranging” the vocal line, so I would think in that case they might be owed a split, so that’s what I mentioned the performer receiving a portion of the publishing on a PD work as a co-arranger as it were. I think I have a clearer picture of how it should be done. Thanks again! 👍🏾
@@SteveWallaceMusic however you negotiate your agreement.
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy thank you.
More great information to add to my knowledge bank. As always, thank you for sharing such great information.
GQ Smoove I appreciate your kind support! Thank you🤗
This Video is Helpful.... THANKS
You’re welcome! 🤗
Thanks for the great video but I think we need a part 2.
A couple of questions.
1. How to search for songs before 1964 that were not renewed ?
2. What does it mean that songs before 1978, copyright renewals were required and how does that overlap with 1964 and 1923 ?
3. How to search for songs where artist released all of their rights to the public ?
4. How to search for songs where artist didn't have a copyright notice before 1989 and how does that overlap with 1964 and 1923 ?
5. How to search for songs without a composer ?
6. What defines a folk song ?
Thank you for your unwavering support and I love the Jethro Tull image !
Good morning John. Thanks for watching! 1. copyright.gov in the search put in the year 2. When you look at the songs from 1964, then you go to pdinfo website and type in the title to see if the song is in the PD. You have to do work to find some information. It's not always a simple answer. 2. If you wrote a song BEFORE 1978, for example, in your liner notes on a CD, you had to have the copyright information such as, (c) 1977 John Bercik. 3. Those songs would already be listed in the public domain. You would have to play detective on this one. Google no copyright songs and there are resources. All of the resources in the videos are places to start. You have to search for what you're looking for. It's not simple, nor cut and dry. Here's a source: www.artlist.io 4. Not having a copyright notice is completely different from whether or not a songwriter renewed their copyright at the end of it's life. If one of my songs rights were ending at the end of 1978 and I didn't renew it, is fell into the PD. It did have a copyright. It doesn't overlap, it just means that those are other criteria where songs could wind up in the PD. Songs written before 1923 are in the PD, songs that were written before 1978 and at the end of those songs rights period, if they were not renewed when the time for renewal fell into the PD. Renewals after 1978 are no longer required. Songs now last for the life of the last surviving author plus 70 years. The song will long outlast the writer! 4. Again, copyright.gov in the search field type in the year you're looking for. Look through the list, find the title, songwriter etc. Take that info and go to the public domain information and search to see if the information is there. You can also go to google and type in songs in the public domain and add the specific year to search. Or you can pay to have research done if you're looking for something specific. 6. What is considered a folk song?
Folk music is the music that is sung by the people, not music recorded in a studio or performed on a stage. People learn these songs by singing them with others. The songs are passed down from generation to generation, and are often changed as they are passed down (such changing is known as the "folk process"). Concerning the Jethro Tull image, that image, I searched for "free for noncommercial use" to find it. Thank you!
Please tell your music creative friends about my channel. I would love to grow it! Thanks for your support.
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy Thanks! I posted your links to 4 different forums today to get people here. Keep on with the great info. This seems to be a very messy rabbit hole to find all of the public domain songs that meet the legal criteria. It's never dull.
@@bluesky2145 laughing! True! May I ask your fascination in wanting to learn every possible PD song? I'm just curious. What are you planning on doing? What is your goal with this? Thank you so much for sharing. I'm sincerely grateful! God bless you.
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy we are looking to do jazz, Christmas and gospel albums of PD material so of course I naively though there would be a simple list of them by category, not some quagmire of database search queries required combined with wiki page lookups combined with date overlap criteria to get it. I still want it but have no idea how to get it. Would you consider a video going through some search examples for each of the criteria you listed to help solve this puzzle for us mere mortals? Thanks! I have another video idea too....if the goal is sales of music on iTunes and cdbaby , does it make sense to put our music on streaming platforms too? It would seem to that on one hand you get exposure through listens but on the other hand, they dont have to buy it to hear it.
@@bluesky2145Bercik let's start with the download and streaming question first: Yes, it does make sense, however, you can do a release first of the music being available only as downloads. Your true fans will purchase the downloads, and hopefully, new supporters will too when your marketing leads them to what's available. After you've done all you can to inspire, and encourage buyers, then make the music available on all streaming platforms. You don't have to do it all at once. Most times music lovers will choose streaming over downloads if that's what's available to them on release day. I mean why pay, when it's free! Your fans mostly will still purchase, but I would offer the downloads first! Then later, streaming. I hope that helps. With your PD searching, unfortunately, that's the way it is. I've included some other resources above in the description.
www.pdinfo.com/pd-music-genres/pd-christmas-songs.php
www.pdinfo.com/pd-song-list/search-pd-songs.php
Thank you!! Working on a Christmas album for next year!!! So I can use lyrics and similar melody with my own composition and then put it on my album?
You're welcome! Yes, if those songs are for sure in the PD. Here's a link to help. Thanks for watching! www.pdinfo.com/pd-music-genres/pd-christmas-songs.php
The Music Business Made Easy Thank you!!!!
@@anthonymusic_official you're welcome!
Never thought about using PD song lyrics as a tool/resource to help you in your own lyric writing. What a great suggestion! As always, great and helpful content here on your channel. Thank you.
So happy I could be of service to you! Thanks for watching!
Very informative!
Thank you!
Speaking very specifically about Christian music, primarily old hymns, this is my preferred genre. I write Christian folk/gospel type songs, and do covers of old public domain hymns in my own style, sometimes tweaking the lyrics, adding a verse or chorus as needed. I always credit the original source and the Christian who wrote the song or hymn. You can take a public domain poem, as I have done often, and use it, creating and composing a song. There are thousands of public domain poems and hymns that can be reintroduced with a novel melody, with an updated tune. Why do this? Well, the answer is easy. It is simply to share the word of God, the love of God, the message of the Gospel of salvation in a new way, to bring souls to Christ, to point to Him, remembering it is not about us, or our performance, or our ego, or for monetary profit or recognition.....it is about using any talent you have as an instrument of God. Remember John 3:30 "He must increase, but I must decrease." Any Christian songwriters out there? Don't try to make a name for yourself. It is not about you, or vain pride. Just use your musical skills for the Lord. Walk humbly before your God. Post your songs on UA-cam and share them without worrying about making money or getting famous. Make your living from plain old hard work. Let your music be consecrated to God. That is my advice. You don't need a studio or much equipment. All I do is play my guitar and sing into a mic attached to an IPad and record at my desk in my den. I never video my own face, because that takes attention away from the message, and besides, music was made to hear. Who wants to see another old white guy on a guitar? So I use still photos with my songs, and press record. I love doing this, researching songs, looking for ideas, and taking walks...and on a walk, I have received more ideas for songs than elsewhere. In conclusion, put your effort into serving your Lord and Savior. He has blessed you, and someday you will meet Him face to face in glory. Go ahead, get started. Don't waste time anymore. Warmest regards. Soli Deo Gloria. JJF
Wow... I am a former Pastor and have been serving the Lord fully for 46 years... my platform that He gave me here specifically is to teach the music business. In that I work really hard still to shine my light. I still sing and minister on my music page. Thanks for watching!
thank u so much for this!!!
You’re welcome!
Thank you. Very helpful information.
You're welcome!
Hello Ms. Watkins. How are you?
@@dreamzzzooentertainment I’m doing fine! Happy Thanksgiving
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy Good to know. Thank you! Happy Thanksgiving to you also.
@@dreamzzzooentertainment I pray that all is well with you!
@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy Thank you; I appreciate that.
You have a very helpful youtube channel.
StirUpTheGifts Program thank you!
This video is helpful, & I understand that you're referring to U.S. law, not the laws of other countries.
Yes sometimes there are different laws for different circumstances in other countries. Thank you.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND DO YOU HAVE A IG?
You’re welcome! Yes...
Although we can use the music in the public domain without permission, can we still have to credit the music and pay for it?
Yes, you should always credit the source if available and no, don’t need to pay for a license to use it if it’s indeed in the public domain.
So if I wanted to play a classical song by Mozart on the piano and put it on UA-cam am I safe?
If it's in the public domain, all should be well; however, it's possible that someone may still own the copyright. You may receive a copyright claim, but that's alright if you do. Please watch this video. It explains it. ua-cam.com/video/HxmTXkFx44w/v-deo.html
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy Thanks for the reply. Are you saying though that Mozart's music could still have a copyright even though his music was all written before 1923? How is that possible? Or did I misunderstand you?
@@jeffreysmith7542 it’s possible if the music went to an estate or family/heirs kept up with re-registrations... not saying that’s the case. Just saying, check to see if it’s actually in the public domain. Never assume that it is.
@@TheMusicBusinessMadeEasy What is the best way to check if it is in public domain?
@@jeffreysmith7542 here are two sites that you can use in searching:
1. www.pdinfo.com/public-domain-music-list.php
2.www.readwritethink.org/sites/default/files/resources/lesson_images/lesson1085/PDSources.html
I still can't believe your sill so unknown. I love it... but hate it...lol
Awwww, sometimes God's timing eludes all of our understanding. I pray that I will be able to reach every single person who needs to hear what I'm teaching while I'm yet able to do so. Thank you so much for your kind and encouraging words. it means a lot!