Who are the Bruderhof? A Rapidly Growing Anabaptist Church you need to be aware of | Est. 1920
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- In 1920, Eberhard Arnold established a new Christian community named, the Bruderhof. This new church would attempt to emulate the earliest church and be based on the teachings of Jesus.
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Hi! I am a Bruderhof member and find the comments hilarious, esp from people who haven't visited us..... A few corrections on your vid: all the adults have access to the internet anytime through our mobile phones, which I'm using at the moment 😂
I do not cover my head, as this is a choice that members make based on their interpretation of the Bible. So some do and others don't. Most of the pics you used are quite old.....
Outreach is important to us, we do NOT want to be isolated from the world. We welcome visitors! I volunteer at a café serving the homeless in Dover (and any tourist that happens to walk in) every Saturday, otherwise I'm a full-time teacher. I love teaching innocent children whose parents believe in the same God that I do, so I can freely talk about Jesus without being fired.... Which will most likely be happening soon to Christian teachers all over the world in these last days. And to all the naysayers on this channel....come visit us first! Personally, I'd love to talk face to face. We are, after all, just....people!
Thank you for your comment @HannahJH-gd2vt! I have pinned your comment so everyone can see your corrections. Some of the comments on this video are very inappropriate and illustrate that they either did not watch the full video or are interpreting everything in a way that conforms to their preconceived notions. However, the angry commenters are in the absolute minority. Since posting this video, I have received numerous emails from Christians who are now interested in joining or visiting the Bruderhof and asking how. I have been directing them to the Bruderhof’s “Contact Us” website page. Also, the positive comments do outnumber the negative ones heavily, although unfortunately, they are not being promoted as much by the UA-cam algorithm as much as the negative comments are.
Thanks Daine,
I do appreciate the care you took with this vid, I'm not in any way criticizing it! I'm mainly responding to some of the comments. The other thing I most likely should have said is that we, like any group of Christians, have much to work on to be truer to the Gospel message. We pray for a fresh outpouring of the Holy Spirit as happened in Acts, with accompanying signs and wonders. We can't possibly live in community without that!! 🔥May it happen in 2024 🙏🙏
Very well said Hannah. I really appreciate your honesty. May it happen in 2024 indeed! Also, you are able to edit your original comment to include other points you would like to mention as well.
Yeah, I just didn't want my original comment so long that nobody would read it 😂
All the best, Daine! And keep doing what you're doing 👍
Most people love their sin and when people try to do anything contrary to the worlds values, its very confronting to them. God bless you. Its not for me, but I can understand the value of living in community. Life in the western world is so isolating, consumer driven. Its easy to see why there is so much mental illness.
I spent 3 days with the Bruderhof community in the UK with my husband and 3 young sons in the late 90's. They let us live with them, my husband worked in the workshop, I worked in the kitchen, and my sons went to school. My favorite memory is the singing before the communal meal, and my sons really enjoyed milking cows. A wonderful experience!
Thank you for your comment @user-gz2hf3iy3u! That is awesome. Glad you enjoyed your experience with them. I can't wait to visit a Bruderhof community myself.
In the 1970's when I was in college, I was part of a "community" who were trying to be like these Anabaptists. We lived in financial community, too. Each donating their income to the common purse and receiving, in turn, room and board, healthcare, transportation, etc. As I recall, we did receive an occasional allowance and were encouraged to use it for gifts for others. We also gave as a community to needs we became aware of. We ate together each evening and worshipped both in church and at home. It was a rich experience for which I am grateful. Thanks for this reminder of those formative years.
So, what happened?
I have visited the Bruderhof twice and am going back for a third visit in April. They are SO not "isolated" from the world. They actually encourage their children to spend time outside of the community (at least a year) to ensure that this way of life is the right one for them. About 70% of children return to the community - 30% don't...and the Bruderhof thinks this is actually good. As one member said, "If 100% wanted to join, we're doing something wrong." Families are not separated if the children go a different way. In fact, one of my hosts is going to Cancun soon with her non-member son and his family. These are very good, accepting people of strong faith. Associating with them has been an amazing learning experience.
Welcome to our community! May God richly bless you! 💖
Jake, this comment of yours "Families are not separated if the children go a different way." is a very welcome recent development. I left the hof 40 years ago and there was a season of almost a decade when my family would not even take any calls from me. I was not allowed to attend my dad's funeral in the late 90's. It's only in the past decade or so that they've totally reversed those positions. Much pain was caused to hundreds of leavers over the previous many decades by this separation of families. The Bruderhof hasn't made any collective apology to all of the leavers for this painful approach they had. As people approach them now seeking some sort of acknowledgement that there were systemic problems, not just within individual families, the apologies as a whole have not been forthcoming. I'm blessed to have renewed contact with my family on the hof, but not all of my siblings have admitted that their approach to me in the 90's was wrong. I'm not sharing this out of bitterness, but just to clarify your impression of things there.
As a German I must correct your mistake: „Bruderhof“ does not mean “place of brothers” but rather _farm_ , _court_ , _yard of brothers_
Can you kindly tell me what einfahrt and ausfahrt means at McDonalds (forgive my misspelling). Does that have something to do with the food?
@@ImaRockStarPR an infant is indoors the assfart in public.
@@ImaRockStarPR "Einfahrt" is where You supposed to drive in. "Ausfahrt" where You supposed to drive out.
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The pronunciation of Hof should be with a long O, not a short O. (Rhymes with go).
I spent a day with a Bruderof community and seriously considered joining. Amazing people!
Glad to hear @user-fd9qj8es1d! I want to do that someday.
But you didn't---tell us why...
DON'T BE DECEIVED!! SATAN is pulling you towards this "GODLESS CULT"!! Focus on GODS WORD, TRUTHS AND PROMISES!!
@@jlotoo850 I wouldn’t have been able to take my dogs with me. Also, there is not enough privacy-people simply walk into each others’ apartments/homes. And one woman hinted that there was favoritism in terms of who got bigger homes. And you have to do what the elders decide. I guess I’m too independent and introverted. I would never call it a cult, however. I did not get that vibe at all. Just a rather insular, structured faith community.
@@user-fd9qj8es1d My first question to them was about my two dogs and two cats. In fact, they come with me on my visits - and on our last walk of the day - we have a parade since the two cats come along! So - they definitely accept pets now...and many families and older people have pets as well. The apartments do have entry doors that can be closed - I thought it was lovely to see them open, and see grandchildren running in and out to see grandma and grandma without a long trip and an invitation.
Even though I'm not Mennonite. I graduated from Eastern Mennonite College in 1990 and believe I received a great educational experience there.
That is great to hear @denisehart5875! Thank you for your comment.
Cool!
Our son visited them in the Hunter Valley in 🇦🇺. He stayed over a couple of nights in a barn with some of the young brothers. Enjoyed it immensely.
That is awesome! I just looked it up....Hunter Valley looks absolutely stunning.
They sound like a beautiful family of believers.
I very much enjoyed the video and learning about the Anabaptist church and origins. As a follower of Jesus I can appreciate the fellowship this Christian community has.
WOW !!! What a wonderful group of people.
What are your thoughts on the Bruderhof? What would you like to see next? Let me know!
In Germany they are closely monitored. We currently have the problem here in Germany that everything that is Christian and family-oriented is viewed as subversive. They are considered a threat because they could be a cult. We don’t have the homeschooling option like the US does. Here our children are confronted with bad topics. just an example: for primary school students there are sex education topics that explain what fetishes there are and how to use anal toys... they are also working on replacing the word parents for carers...etc... I really like how detailed you explain everything. ..thanks....can you please make a video about the strictest Amish Swartzentruber? ... the way you explained the Hutter, I'm now a big fan, thanks again .... greetings
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Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary?
What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below.
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
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Thw Bruderhof and the hutterites actually divided in the 1950s, and reunited in the 1970s, only to separate in 1995. Its been a rocky road. They are a very controlling group
No, it is too much of a cult. They have no infant baptism too that's silly.
@@br.m The Bible stresses that baptism is to be done after repentance.
Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Not sure if infants have the slightest clue about sin and repentance (from a Biblical context). How then, can an infant be baptized?
I would just like to say these people are spot on this is exactly how Jesus would wish us to live I wish I could join them don't know how God bless you all.
With a society in moral decay, communities like this seem appealing more and more.
Until you literally have to vow to give up absolutely everything you own or will ever get--including your Social Security checks. Then, if you get kicked out or want to leave, you can't ever get your Social Security money etc......
Ya until you are in there. No. Cults are never a good thing.
Religious groups have their own record of abuse of women and children. Mennonites in Bolivia, or in the news today, albeit a very different community, the late T.B. Joshua of the Synagogue Church of All Nations.
What’s the point of being salt to society if you’re leaving due to the moral decay that you’re inherently slowing down by being in the world? That would make you unsalty. Likewise, the world seeks comfort and ease and hates suffering. The world would LOVE if you avoided conflict with it and simply packed up Jesus and left your post-all the places you had an impact or could have one-to make your own earthly life easier and less distressing. I mean, isn’t that what IT values and how IT would handle the situation? You hate worldliness but would leave the world by following its own worldly values to justify your actions. So not being in a “righteous enough” community isn’t the problem then, is it?
Wow this was very informative and I can't help but notice you have an excellent voice!
I followed a thought that came into my mind "Did they evangelize in the Old Testament?" Actually they did. They posted on their homes who they served and welcomed strangers. So that would be the same as these "set apart" sects. I believe they are living and conducting their lives according to the scriptures. Their dress is NOT frozen in time. The world drifts further and furher from God so their dress becomes more and more ungodly.
That’s not what “set apart “ means.
This is spiritual not physical thing
Like “ do not conform to the world”
What a wonderful find! I remember Bedstamor who settled in Luck Wisconsin after coming through Ellis Island about Ana Baptist ancestors. Apparently they baptized in the canals at night since Luthernism was the State Religion in Denmark 🇩🇰 at that time. She was a Sorensen, known in the family as a peacemaker and woman of prayer 🙏
Very interesting. Thanks for making this video
Thanks for your comment @lauracwiklinski9083! Glad you enjoyed the video.
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These Bruderhofs do sound attractive, except for one thing... we are not supposed to separate ourselves from the world! We are supposed to be IN the world but not OF the world. We're supposed to be salt and light to the world. We are supposed to serve and heal the world just as Christ modeled for us. None of this can be done if we isolate away from the world and dress as if we're frozen in a random point in time. This smacks of the way the Deceivor works... present mostly Truth but twist a few subtle details. Basically, he has won with these people, as he's kept their light under a barrel and removed the saltiness from them 😢
The Bruderhof do interact with the world though. One example is through their businesses, e.g., "Community Playthings". They also have a UA-cam channel with frequent uploads, so it's hard to argue that they aren't making any outside contact or that they fail to evangelize. I would also caution against using "dress as if we're frozen in a random point in time" as an argument, as culture continues to shift away from modest dress in favor of overly sexualized styles. Dressing to meet the expectations of modern society is not a requirement of Matthew 28:19-20.
Yes if you isolate and focus only on your own that’s selfish, Jesus Christ never isolated himself from sinners and people of need.
You saw it
No you're wrong, most pentecostal holiness type churches throughout history have taught that believers must dress holy as scripture commands. This means women must wear dresses . Even some orthodox jews do this.
I agree with you, but the video did say some money goes to outreaches. Never the less, it would be nice to have that concept in any community without that one big restriction. Isolation. Grounds for twist or treat.
I was raised on a farm and eveyone down and up the road helped out each other one way or the other. Some would not even consider themself Christian.
Have a pleasant weekend.
The Waldensians were pretty much precursors of the Anabaptists and were persecuted heavily by the church in Rome. They joined the reformation of Luther and got absorbed into the protestant movement. You should make a video on them too, especially since these groups (termed heretics of Valdois by the papal church) existed even before the Reformation.
RE: THE WALDENSIANS --Actually, yohanan5947, you are not entirely correct.
Although some of the Waldensians did join up with Luther and other reformers during the 1500’s, some did not, and survived into recent times. They were not simply absorbed into other groups. How do I know this?
In the 1970’s, I visited and worshiped with Waldensians in two of their communities in Uruguay. I also knew Uruguayan Mennonites who knew the Waldensians well, and were quite comfortable with closely associating with them.
So while they may not be very numerous compared with other groups, and do not have a very strong or very visible organizational structure, they DID NOT disappear. Hmmmmm..... Just like the early church in many ways………..
Thank you for your comment @yohanan5947! You make some very valid and interesting points. I've added them to my research list!
I'm guessing that you are acquainted with the Waldensians through one or another of the Baptist histories, such as "The Trail of Blood" by J.M. Carroll. I was excited to discover, nearly forty years ago, that the Waldenses still exist. In fact, a large Waldense community has been in North Carolina since the 19th Century, as I recall. I wrote to that community and exchanged several letters with them. They sent me several booklets on their group. I had hoped to visit them for their centennial celebration, but my finances did not allow it. I regret to say that in modern times, the Waldenses have formal fellowship with the Roman Catholic Church *and* endorse LGBT+ (homosexuality, same-sex marriage).
@@PoouaThe Trail of Blood 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that's as reliable as tits on a boar.
I think I have watched all of your videos now. I find Hutterites and Mennonites fascinating - all that who descended from the anabaptist movement.
Thank you @greatexpectations6577! The anabaptists are very fascinating indeed and are an impressive people. Appreciate your support.
I got to know some conservative mennonites and I found it to be mostly a superficial deception. Many people idealize them. But the truth seems to be that they all have control issues and see no problem with being a doormat or even abused. That's called being godly. Authority is paramount, above respect, above everything. And that's how high control religions end up with sweeping abuse under the rug and enabling it. Victim blaming. They're not that fascinating in a good way. They just obey and wear certain clothes and have to cook a lot because they have to. The truth is that they are trapped. Everyone they've ever known is that group, their entire family. And if you don't get out before you get married then you're really stuck. So many ways to trap a person and control them. It's all about power and control. Different than healthy ways of living yes, but should not be romanticized. I find cults fascinating as well, but they are still a cult.
Anabaptists and Baptists actually more or less predate Catholicism, although not necessarily under those names.
@@annep.1905 Cape dresses were around before 1054? I don't know the history. I know cape dresses are extremely important to mennonites. Gotta have them! If you're a woman at least.
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr Not the dresses, just the faith. Dress changes some over time.
The original church did not separate from society. It remained in society to spread the good news of Christ's gospel and to serve others. By serving the poor around them, the church had to be intimately involved with its community. In fact, the primitive church was one of the first social welfare organizations.
Yes! And the early church baptised entire households, not just the adult members of the household
@@meyaomeyao No evidence that the households so baptised consisted of non-adults. In fact, all baptism in the Bible is of people who could make the decision on their own, as opposed to being hand-carried while helpless and non-verbal.
@@meyaomeyao Acts 8:37 says "If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest." So I guess that means that everyone in those entire households you are talking about must have believed with all their hearts.
@@andrewgeissinger5242 I have no reason to believe otherwise
@@Pooua the scriptures referring to baptism never exclude children.. Surely when John leapt in Elizabeth's womb it was for joy, having faith in his savior.. It's a mistake to assume God withholds saving faith from babies simply because they do not possess the ability to articulate it.
It is growing. Since last year I suddenly came across few families ranging from SE Asia to North America.
"Isolated communities"? I understand Bruderhofs to be very open to visitors and interacting with local communities. How does that signify 'isolated communities'?
People say isolating when you separate yourself from the world. Meaning you do not take part in what you believe is worldly things and lifestyle. Most people like Hutterites, Amish, Mennonites, and even some who are more mainline Christians are not closed off to the world. But they get labeled this way by some. It's not true. They welcome people and are out and about in the community for business etc. But when they separate in ways like not sending their kids to government schools, don't fellowship or have close friendships with people who do not hold to their beliefs. These groups have certain beliefs which set them apart from others in their mind. So they seem to to me to be following what Paul says according to their belief. Paul said this. "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty." They don't shun other people to my knowledge. I know people from all these groups, and we talk often. But I hold some beliefs to them that are very worldly, and I understand their view on it. I respect them and they respect me. It's always crazy to me when people paint them as these isolated people.
I just thought it meant that they are friendly and welcoming. But remain living separate from the world. If they didn't interact with world then they couldn't be salt and light in anyway.
Tammik.. Your right, I don't see how they're isolated.
This group is interesting. At least people are trying to get back to early Christianity. Communal living is still practiced in eastern orthodox monasticism.
Yeah, it's just more of those "Chridtians" who do not understand that Israel and the Body of Christ Church are two different churches with two different Gospels, and end up mixing doctrines of the two into one doctrine.
@@bugsocsollie1694there is one gospel.
And the gentiles are grafted in.
@chris2790 what is this "one Gospel?" Paul said that the Gospel is the power of God unto salvation for anyone that believes it. Romans 1:16. What is that message of good tidings that can save a person just for believing it? It is that Christ died for our sins, was buried, and He rose again the 3rd day for our justification. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Jesus' Gospel was that Israel's promised kingdom is finally at hand. Mark 1:15. This Gospel of the Kingdom is what Jesus sent out the 12 (and the 70) to preach to Israel only. It was this Gospel of the Kingdom that Jesus said would be preached in all the world before the end comes. Matthew 24:14
The Disciples had no idea that Jesus would be dying for our sins when they went out preaching their Gospel.
It absolutely can not be Paul's Gospel of Grace that saves us today. Israel was about to face their 70th week, and that is what all their NT Scriptures were in perfect context of. Only Paul said that day is not at hand. Israel's 70th week never came because a Dispensation of Grace for the Gentiles came instead, and this Dispensation came because Israel fell in unbelief. Romans 11:11-12
Eastern orthodoxy is not Christian though. So how is it relevant to the topic of Christianity?
@@bugsocsollie1694 What the heck are you talking about sir? How come I didn't understand any of that?
Is what you wrote important? Can you help me understand? Would you rephrase your important message? So Jesus did not die for my sins? John the Baptist was lying when he said Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world?
There's a Bruderhof UA-cam channel. If they haven't heard of your video, they might soon. The Anabaptists are a very diverse group, and whenever I see an Amish-looking person it is hard to tell exactly what sect they align with. Anyone interested in going to an Anabaptist community, I recommend Adams County, Indiana.
NOt to mention Lancaster County, PA
I love them here in our community. Wonderful ppl and very community minded. Very intelligent skillful and kind God fearing people are the first things that come to mind.
Talk about a tradition of men… most of these sects are literally named after the men that started them
Ugh right! Cults are never a good idea.
"Bruderhof" means "house of brothers".
@@fadedglory1045There is no bigger cult than societies controlled by centralized governments.
@@rebelfrog3 agree. The two cults that are destroying our country are perfect examples.
Awesome video. One thing missing in this movement, that was NOT true of the Moravians, was that the Morivains had a passion for missions among the ungodly in this degenerate world. While they (the Moravians) separated as a community, they were very much involved in pursuing salvation for the lost ungodly dead heathens of the world. The original Anabaptists were of a similar persuasion and mission. Many don't know this, but John Bunyan, author of Pilgrim's Progress, was an Anabaptist.
This is a honest and good report. My Church family didn't encourage watching television nor listening to worldly music. To this day I cannot find very much Godliness in either.
It seems like a Church that looks after one another's well-being.
Because for the last time (even Paul says this), asceticism does not lead to righteousness. You can avoid whether you want. But you forgot that Jesus says what goes OUT of a man makes him unclean. Sin is from YOUR HEART not a TV show or living in the wrong church community. Only the gospel can fix that. Keep chasing the ideal life and you’ll have wasted years looking for the perfect place when the problem is what’s IN you not around you and the solution was always in your hands: The Word. You want godliness in your own community? You go and show love to them without expecting anything. That’s godly regardless of how you feel.
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The Hutterite communities in Montana are so interesting. The ones around great falls also wear polka dot bonnets. I wonder what the origin of that is.
You should make a video presentation of the Reich Church, Brown Synod and Ludwig Müller - Reichsbischof. Martin Luther and his interesting writings on the Jewish people would also make a great video!
Thank you for your comment @tomaseire. Sounds interesting, I will check it out!
@@DainetheHistorian He's being a jackass. I can't tell if he actually is anti-Semite (pro-neo Nazi) or is trying to besmirch Christianity, but he's a jackass either way.
Praise God!
Christ is King!
As a born again, fundamental, bible believing Christian, I have no objection to the AnaBaptist belief system and way of life. In fact I was a member of a group in the late 1960's early 1970's that lived just like this. It was an off shoot of Calvary Chapel called Shiloh Youth Revival. We lived on 70 acres in Oregon and ministered the gospel targeting the Hippie movement. We sent missionaries all around America and it was a thriving ministry. So God bless them as they share their faith.
One thing I can't grasp about these groups that try to emulate the early church is why they don't study the early church. To be sure I admire much about groups like these. But to try to understand the intricacies of 1st century Christian life by just studying the New Testament is wild. Orthodox Christianity is a testament to the life of the early Christians. We are practicing the same way now that we did 2000 years ago. I wish they could read some of the writings of the early Church Fathers or visit some of our Churches in Antioch Greece or Egypt which have been there in the same place, same building, worshipping the same way for well over a millennia, some almost close to two!
an inspiring group and an antidote to our atomized modern world.
Although this group has 99 out of 100 things correct---the one thing that is the clincher is---THEY decide where you work, what you do, when you can see your parents--if you will even live on the same continent as them, etc., etc. You give up your individual right to make your own decisions--leaving everything for the community to discern for you. So, in essence, the Community becomes your God--telling you what to do, where to go, who to minister to, and how, etc. So in effect--THAT makes it a cult. I have been there many times over decades, and agree with so much. However THAT is what has kept me from joining them. I will give up my individual rights to self-determination to no one but GOD alone! THAT is the point where they go too far. They are lovely and loving people---but underneath it all, there is a controlling aspect that is not Biblical. In Acts people were controlled by the Holy Spirit. At the Bruderhof, you are controlled by the Community.
@@jlotoo850amen, amish have that kind of control as well, their community becomes theri God. Weather you have money or not when someone preaches no private ownership it's alarm time
An inspiring group? We need to work on people's ability to see cults and how to be critical thinkers.
@@fadedglory1045 many of their values are inspiring doe
@@oreocarlton3343 these are values of good decent people. If a person reads the Bible the depravity of the world is part of the end times. The "good" will stand out and be lights in a dark world. Their values are just extreme living conditions. I know atheists that have extremely good values and morals. It's not a corner market that the Christian's own. 🌺 keep your eyes open and think critically. Cult life is no life at all.
Im uh just sticking with the southern baptists, they have great food
Hey, we also have great food 😂
What am I missing? Rapidly growing but only 3000 members?
A strict non violence and non politicality is vital, but so is evangelism.
What type of evangelism
How does that work in Australia where voting is mandatory?
@@tomlehr861 Door to door, placards and sandwich boards, handing out pamphlets, letters, informal conversations with unbelieving colleagues, whatever works, but you gotta be doing it.
@@Ggdivhjkjl Its a negligible fine to not vote, plenty of unbelievers don't bother to vote anyway.
@@tomlehr861Sharing the gospel. There is no “type of evangelism”. Just tell people about Jesus with gentleness and respect. You know that.
How about doing one on how their article's of faith came into existence? Like the schleitheim confession and the dortrecht confession?
Thank you for your comment @ronsmith7236. I made a video about the Schleitheim Confession early last year. A video on the Dortrecht confession is a very good idea. I've put it on my list!
Thanks as I grew up amish and was baptized upon the dortrecht confession
That's wonderful!
It’s sad to see people following the ideas of their leaders. Just one look at the thumbnail shows older females in head scarfs but younger ones, without. You’ve really got to have something missing if you feel the need to follow strict rules made by others.
I tried to follow you once, but your brain was missing.
Women don scarves when they get married, or when they join the church. It has nothing to do with mindlessly imitating someone else. Each community, whether Hutterite or Bruderhof is self-autonomous in many areas, dress included.
@@mariekatherine5238 It's not about imitating anyone. We all imitate someone in some regard or another.
It's about mindlessly following another persons rules that they personally establish. Many religions are like this, the leaders love the power to control their followers and the followers mindlessly abide by their rules, no matter how ridiculous they are.
@@derrickcox7761I understood OP just fine.
🎉 THIS
I lived in the same village as the UK site. Nice people, the way of life is not for me but it is a simple way of life.
Chokely oppressive and tyrannical. Obeying is a form of totalaterism. No god or king can save you. You've got to free yourself from want . So bad . Learn to think for yourself. G'day from Australia 🇦🇺
People are strange creatures, and religion makes them stranger still! Interesting video. Appreciated the warning, whether you meant it as that or not. I was born in a Mennonite hospital (long since renamed) so it was interesting to learn the name of that sect's founder.
Early church also was blessed as they celebrated the Bible Sabbath.
I love them!
There is also another tradition apart from Reformers and Catholics. The East churches did not get involved in the Reformation controversies.
Neither did the Anabaptists. They did not come out of Roman Catholicism, but were one of many groups of true New Testament churches who were persecuted by the RC system throughout the Dark Ages.
LOVE THIS RELIGIOUS PERSPECTIVE
Glad to hear @petespencer8813! Thank you for your comment.
Why did they split in the 90s?
The first church held to holding property in common, but not as a rule, with the belief that the Lord was returning soon. It was something they chose to do, not God ordained.
If that systems was feasible in the long term, God would have orchestrated it with Israel, through Moses.
If believers chose to live that way, thats fine. But as a rule, not so!
You bring up very valid points @Notacessasionist. I appreciate your comment! The Anabaptist's believe that the Book of Acts is "prescriptive" whereas most other christians interpret it as "descriptive".
Thank you.
I love this video very much. Well done.
Thank you for your comment @user-ld3cj9oh6j! Appreciate your support.
I would like viseo on oldhardshell Baptist and German Reformed Baptist.
I get it. I understand the desire to separate from the world, which is brim full of ungodly people, even, regrettably, so is the church.
Personally, I can't see myself being happy in a community which tells me and my wife what to wear, eating meals together like a youth camp and controlling the use of the internet and TV. I enjoy my freedoms. I enjoy social media, TV and the internet.
The Bruderhofs are growing, you say, but with only 3,000 members worldwide. That's small, but pretty good for a Christian community where you have to pool all your finances. Very few people would do that. Their facilities look excellent and so are their business plans for income generation. Their ban on joining the military sounds nice but all it says to me is that they are happy for others to do the fighting for them. I don't think that flies in real life.
This sounds like what one would expect to hear from a boomer. "my freedom" above all. The Church talks about freedom. Freedom is not about being able to do whatever we want when we want. But it's too long to elaborate here. About military, they are right. Pretty much all wars are about seizing natural resources for big Capital. They are not about defending the nation against bad men attacking on their horses. It's 21st century, not 15th.
Like the JW's all to happy to take from society but never give back. Only help their own. And the abuse is never reported . And there is a lot!
You know the reason you need Christ is because you’re ungodly on your own, right? And you know the reason you are where you are is to attest to the grace and mercy of God, right? And that those ungodly people need what you have spiritually just as badly as you do?
I think it's more - they don't want ANYONE fighting - and won't participate in it. They are not pacifists. They are non-resisters. There is a big difference. Even Quakers (pacifists) will fight for what they feel is a just cause - as many did in the Civil War. A non-resister means that they will not take up arms against another person, or take the life of another person - even if they lose theirs in the process. They don't want ANYONE to fight and die for them.
Honestly...sounds likeca good place to retire to, give back to a community, and enjoy fellowship and community in God.
Only if you are wanting to give up your right to self-determination
But if you are raised in this community you will have no retirement saving and if an scandal crash the organization you end homeless. We could live that without all the religious stuff If people could be more neighborly.
@@jlotoo850 They make a choice freely about how to spend their lives.That IS "self-determination". It is no different that monks, nuns, etc. who decide to live in monasteries and convents. There is an acceptance that giving up "self" will be part of the contract, so to speak. It's only no "right to self-determination" if you didn't make the choice freely in the first place.
@@miguelrosado7649 Well, I suppose that is possible. But it not only possible, but actually happening all around us in the world. The Bruderhof choose to live in trust with their brothers and sisters. Living in fear of what "could" happen is never a healthy way to live.
Love the gossip perspective
I'm telling on you!
Why did they separate in 1995?
This is down my road
My dad wanted us to join the one in Shropshire, England, in the 1960 and maybe move on to Paraguay from there. Luckily my mother put her foot down!
People have tried this many times but it only works on a very small scale.
And usually so much unreported abuse. The kids the wives and the isolation.
I have a dear friend who was raised in one of the bruderhof communities. I was even able to visit one time with her, she had left, but was still allowed to write and visit on occasion. However, sadly the leaders of the community eventually made her parents and siblings cut her off and she wasn't allowed to contact them after that.
What a lovely bunch they are. I hope the governments where they are takes good care of them and protects them.
They are well able to and do take care of themselves. They are educated and have doctors, nurses, teachers and profitable businesses among them. They do not rely on government support.
@@patricewassmann212 that makes them all the more beautiful!
Thank you, Valhalla, you are kind. I think all true Christians will be persecuted for their faith, however.... And we are no exception, esp if the govt is run by liberals, so we do a lot of praying about the future!!
I think this can be done without common belongings. We could pool property into a church, but I don't think we have to get rid of every personal item.
I believe that they have personal items in their homes but those remain common property-for example children's toys when outgrown go back to whoever needs them, unused clothing goes back the same way.
@@patricewassmann212 Well that's just basic sharing. I looked into one of these once. And I'm pretty sure they want you to give up everything you own before you move in.
It's an attractive thought to isolate from the sinfulness of this world with my brothers and sisters in Christ. But witnessing to the world is our burden, and in the likeness of Paul and the Apostles, I will do it with joy. But man, to just be with my church family on a beautiful property, making lots of babies and praising the Lord... Sounds beautiful.
Isolate from the sinfulness of this world? What about from yourself? We’ve done this before with monasteries. Believers foolishly thought they’d finally feel more pure and closer to God when they left the world and locked themselves away only to discover “Hey guess what? I’M why I need a Savior!” Part of spreading the gospel message and being a Christian is realizing that on this side of heaven, your poo stinks too. Still will for now. The only difference is that you know Someone that won’t condemn you for it because of his atonement.
Cults practice isolation which is not Biblical.
The Anabatists were prosecuted in the early days because of their believes and water baptism.
@@Window4503 The Bruderhof are not isolated. They have several Bruderhof's that do outreach to university students - as well as doing service work among refugees in various parts of the world They also work in local group outreach in their local communities. They believe in spreading Christianity by how they behave towards each other and their neighbors..not using a lot of words. Just showing what is possible. (I am going back for my third visit in April.)
I know some of those Bruderhof people. They don't have salaries and love God. Love those people.
Glad to hear you love them, they really do seem like great people. I hope to know some Bruderhof members one day!
The head covering is no longer mandatory for the Bruderhod women, at least not in daily life (I don't know if they still use it during worship).
Interesting, I did not know that. Was that a recent change? Thanks for your comment @mailill!
@@DainetheHistorian I thought it was quite recent (2-3 years ago) as I think I remember reading something about it then, but then I watched a video with Laura from the Bruderhof who seems to say it has always been a free choice whether and when to wear a head covering.
Who came up with the infant baptism confusion? 🤦🏽♀️😭 Like how does a baby die to self when they are yet to know what self is?
They are baptized to enter into the kingdom of God like Christ commanded. They are born again in water and the Spirit and healed of the Ancestral Sin and united to the Body of Christ. Christ commanded to let the children to come to Him and not forbid them. This only happens in Orthodoxy though. We've done this for 2000 years.
So glad I converted from Protestantism to Eastern Orthodoxy. I grew up in a home church similar to these Anabaptists
Why?
@@waltershumer4211because Protestantism is heresy.
@@protestanttoorthodox3625 protestantism is pretty gay. But show me a Christian group with birth rates like these bruderhoff people? Everyone else is below replacement levels.
Out of the pot, into the fire?
@protestanttoorthodox3625 listen to any sermon by John MacArthur, Voddie Baucham or Alistair Begg and tell me where the heresy is.
You should do a video on Eastern Orthodoxy.
Extremely interesting -- thank you. One of the all-time classical organ masterpieces is about Anabaptists: Liszt's Fantasia and Fugue on 'Ad Nos, ad Salutarem Undam'.
Glad you enjoyed the video @scronx! That classical music sounds interesting, Ill check it out.
I had some ancestry family members that were Anabaptist, but their view was you could/should be baptized often. At any rate, I do believe in immersion water baptism and feel that once is sufficient, with sincerity to be clean from sin is the ordinance,(order) as Jesus and John set that example, and I believe the covering for women is their hair in 1Corr 11. According to that Chapter, which is a bit unclear; that's, also, only if she's praying or prophesying in the congregation; not all the time. Besides, women have been set free in Jesus Christ, not to sin, but we are free to uphold godliness and to pursue godliness with our only yoke being Jesus, who has made all things new in Him. (2 Corr. 5:17). The pope is not the spokesperson for Christ Jesus, and he is definitely fallible.
There's no male or female in Christ Jesus Gal. 3:26-27-29; and in Jeremiah 31:22, Joel 2; and in Hebrews 8, we all should know God, which we do when we've truly obeyed Acts 2:38; Acts 16:30-33; Acts 9:17-18; Acts 22:16; Acts 4:12; Acts 19;1-7; Romans 6:1-4; Mark 16:15-16; Mark 14:24; Mark 16:9, and entered into His New Testament Will & Covenant. Rev. 19:1-10.
Catholicism vs Relativism 💫
So many heresies under the pretence of offering something « special ». Schismatic cults have been part of Christianity since the beginning, but only one true church has successfully bought forward the message of Christ.
Do the bruderhof believe that you are saved by grace not by works?
Saved by grace, but works are also important according to the Bible
James 2:14-26
Hey! Thanks for that cool video. We also have two communities in Austria now.
Glad you enjoyed it @aidanvombruderhof! Thats amazing, thank you for the info. You just got a new subscriber!
Yes. I live at the Bruderhof am Stein in Austria, and try to show on my channel what it is like as a young college student living at the Bruderhof..
I think, tbh, that hutterites are better because they have separate houses for the member families. Each family has more privacy that way. I will not become either because I do believe in the doctrines of the Catholic Church as taught until 1958 at the death of Pope Pius XII. I will remain a traditional Catholic, but I admire the hutterite way of life.
100% Hutterites own the land as a colony and are self sufficient but families have their own homes, etc.
I am also a Catholic who admires the way these people live. They seem sincere, it's a pity they are deprived of the sacraments and believe so many heresies.
@@christopherfleming7505 - do you also bow before statues?
@@nervotica7991 Yes. Nothing wrong with that, as long as they're not idols. The president of the USA bows to a statue of the Unknown Soldier every Memorial Day, and protestants are fine with that.
@@christopherfleming7505 And you find no heresies in the traditional Roman Catholic teachings? How odd.
I wish to God I had been raised like this. Away from the filth of the world, until I was old enough to be prepared to deal with what would eventually come my way.
…so let’s reframe that. If it weren’t for other boozooes, you’d be perfect and sinless? Don’t you think that maybe God’s best interest for you IS your current life to keep you humble and aware that you need him? You’re the reason you need a Savior. I think that’s important to keep in mind because once you start thinking “I just need the right environment,” it stunts your growth and you spend time trying to find heaven on earth before the promised Return instead of dealing with your sins now and moving forward in the grace allotted to you. Jesus said what goes OUT of a man makes him unclean. Sin comes from your heart. Your environment is a temptation but never the ultimate cause. You have the Word and the Spirit, who is God himself. That’s already more than enough no matter where you’re at.
I get what you are saying. Children and teens are exposed to entirely too much evil too soon by piers, teachers, public and media. The amount of time exposed to the world on developing young minds takes its toll. Young adults reject God after saturation in evil and naively we ask “why”.
Same @Rood67 a community that raises you and gives you a strong foundation is priceless.
Very well put @donriffle1634. You are so right.
@@Window4503 I can appreciate your point from one adult to another. However, I’m not sure you read my comment with understanding or just the need to reply.
Do you know where I went to school? No
Do you know if my parents were divorced and there was little to no supervision or training on how to a responsible adult? No
Do you the amount of drugs, sex, pornography, alcohol, etc was prevalent where I grew up and went to school? No
Yet you want to imply that I think I would be sinless and perfect growing up in and around a group like this. The answer is still no, I wouldn’t.
The point of my comment was, as Solomon wrote in Proverbs, and demonstrated in Jesus’ parable of the prodigal son; train up a child as he should go and when old they will not depart from it.
So, if you’re-read what I said without thinking of what you’re going to reply, I said, so that I would be better prepared to deal with the thing presented later in life.
In today’s world, at least in the U.S. teachers are putting litter boxes in the classroom for students that want to identify as a cat. This starts at home with worldly parents or parents to afraid to say anything to the child. These kids will be voting soon enough for peers that grew up like them, and the world will suffer.
Are these communities perfect, absolutely not! But children here will have a better chance than those left to their own devices and whims.
Is the verse of sharing all you own in Acts descriptive or prescriptive? That's a fundamental question. Pooling all your income...what could go wrong? Hmmm...Lots to admire about their other theological beliefs, though.
Prescriptive...that's why big pharma has all their money now.
Spent half a day with Bruderhof community near Kingston, NY.."they support themselves making and selling playground equipment for children…..their children after their own schooling go to public middle and high school.
Honestly, this seems like a group I would consider joining! The only downside is that I am reformed and believe in the baptism of children. So that's where I wouldn't agree with their theology.
*THIS IS MY OPINION, not an attack.* I’ve read a lot of comments, and yours was one that struck me as sincere. I’m hoping that what I say here may prompt you to look into this further, and find out exactly what they mean, not just what was said in narration of the video.
The question to be considered is what is referred to as children? I accepted Christ close to my seventh birthday, and for all points and purpose was considered a child. Per scripture, I was not baptized prior to this point. An infant that believes their dad stole their nose, cannot comprehend Christ crucified and resurrected for the remission of sin.
What I took from this video of their theology, is what is referred to as believers baptism. Not an age limit of one must be eighteen plus before one can be baptized. A few scriptures that are *my* basis for how I believe, and what I took from this video as being their standard are:
Acts 2:38-41 (KJV)
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added [unto them] about three thousand souls.
Peter was preaching in an open air market, with people from around the known world, no age specified. Only that they were old enough to believe on Christ unto salvation due to the Holy Spirit drawing them to the Truth.
Romans 10:9-13 (KJV)
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
As a fundamental, independent Baptist, we use a term “age of accountability.” The age at which knowing not to take a cookie isn’t just something one was told not to do. But the point the mind and soul understands this is disobedience, and guilt for doing wrong convicts a person. And when explained, that this is sin, and the reason Christ came.
1 Corinthians 1:9-17 (KJV)
9 God [is] faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and [that] there be no divisions among you; but [that] ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them [which are of the house] of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
Although I have not experienced this myself, others have stated when trying to witness to someone, being told; “I was baptized at such and sun church when I was a baby, I don’t need your preachy Jesus, I’m already good.”
A dedication of a child is something we still do for newborns. It is more a commitment of the parents that they are giving the child back to God as Hannah did with Samuel. And promising to raise the child in church where they will hear the Gospel. Because just as Samuel, as a child, did not understand it was God speaking to him until explained so that he knew what was going on; had to be old enough to comprehend. But he was still a child.
So, I would encourage you to look deeper than the passing comment in the video.
Sounds wise and good ❤
How do I join
Go to the Bruderhof website link I put in the video description, and go to their "contact us" page.
Thanks!
Thank you
@michaelrredford! Appreciate your support!
Were the Amish who settled in Lancaster, Pa. originally Anabaptists from a part of Germany
Anabaptists are a big umbrella for many groups who hold similar believes. The Amish followed Jakob Ammon who wanted a stricter interpretation of the Bible and communal living. They actually began in Switzerland.
If they have Christ. And live their lives in obedience to God and Christ.
That is excellent, the goal , the race.
Two things : they are on earth also under the devil's atack.
They made biblical principles a lifestyle.
That and more is asked of every christian.
And if they can do it to the glory of God, we must praise God that gave the wisdom and power and love to man to live in obedience to Christ.
What evidence do you have the devil exists and he is attacking the earth?
@@fibonacimike4110 read Peter.
@@fibonacimike4110 John 10 : 10 , " The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. "
@@hendrikjansevanrensburg8337 and where is the evidence?
@@hendrikjansevanrensburg8337 why should i read peter?
Sounds like the Bruderhof are some of the few people in this world living according to God's principles. We should all embrace this way of life.
You're always welcome to join 😂
8:10 So this is why my Bruderhof adaptation of Us Weekly failed so badly...
The MARANATA people in Sweden practices communal living.
Very interesting!
Is it the group/congregation where Aage Samuelsen was a preacher and singer?
He was a fantastic man.
Visited One of their communities in Pennsylvania. Very kind folks and a quaint life... Almost picture perfect.
Personally I don't think I would be able to obey the church elders to the extent they ask of you.
What you don't want to wake up at 5 am every morning to do all the men's laundry? Lol
Farmington, Pa?
Spring Valley.
Hey Katie,
Some of my fam lives there 😊
Did you meet any of the Hornings? 💖
@@Mountainpeakprophet As a guest going for my third visit, I can tell you that no one is awake at 5 unless they are getting their children up for school and breakfast together as a family because high-school kids have to catch buses early. Work starts around 9 am - tea break at 1030 - lunch with the full community at 12. Rest/free time until 1pm and then everyone stops at 4:30 or so.
Elder members may have half a day off during the week, and if someone is simply too tired or elderly - they simply go for the hours of work they can manage. All work is considered important and valuable- status is not a "thing". One of my first days there I found myself washing down the lunch tables after lunch - and met another women also wiping- who is the community's physician.
No person's job is more important than another's - whether that's a teacher, physician, physical therapist or laundry person. Also - some work is always set aside (not busy work) - for an older person who wants a couple of hours work...no one is set aside into a room by themselves, alone, and made to feel like life is over - they are integrated into the community at all life stages.
I lived in a Christian community very similar to this, for about 11 years in South Carolina, back between 1997-2008....
I wish there was one near me in Illinois.
Leaving all your independence to leadership...idk man😢
Answer: 2nd Timothy 2:15 and 1Corinthians 15:1-4. Religion will leave you in hell. Your salvation is only in in the faith of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Take the offer.
What’s the question?
Are u asking about salvation? How to go to heaven?
What is your denomination?
The Bruderhofs sound like they're more Christian than MOST of the detractors here. That's for sure.
Thank you for that. Not a member, but always find the finger-pointing and pompous pronouncements from other "Christians" so interesting. They scorn the legalism of the Pharisees, but adopt it for their own purposes. Jesus told us not to judge - but they feel very comfortable doing so. I find the arrogance pretty amazing. It also explains why so many people are turning from Christianity...
I believe as them that infant baptism doesn’t help the child…. You get baptized AFTER you get the heart tug of the Holy Spirit and truly repent for your sins and ask Jesus into your heart…. You have to be old enough to understand what you are doing
I agree with you @kathyh4804. I did a video on Menno Simons, the founder of the Mennonites. Menno has a very interesting quote that you will like: "We are not regenerated because we have been baptized but we are baptized because we have been regenerated by faith and the word of God. Regeneration is not the result of baptism but baptism the result of regeneration. This can indeed not be controverted by any man or disproven by the scriptures”.
Sometimes I think infant baptism is a misnomer. I grew up United Methodist (not now!). The infant baptism wasn't being baptised with the holy spirit. It was a dedication of the baby and a commitment from the parents and congregation to raise the baby up in the faith.
The Lord Jesus said let the children come to me and do not hinder them for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Denying infant baptism is a denial of the commandment of Christ. You think people can not experience salvation unless they have a developed brain?
I share the same values as the Bruderhof , except I am serving Christ in the “world” not isolated.
"Come out from the world and be ye separate..."
@@patchadams4meContext. You’d have to ignore Jesus’ prayer for his disciples (“I do not pray that you take them out of the world”) and condemn them as disobedient to come to that conclusion. The point is to not be worldly. We are not commanded to create little separate communities that fail to interact with the world. Besides. You should know that you take your own sins with you anyway. Other people aren’t the cause of your sins. YOU are.
Would like to see a video on primitive baptist in America as that is my sect . We seem to have lost our waysof old anababtist beliefs.
Thank you for your comment @benkimbrough8070! I will check them out.
Watch out for groups which may end up like Jonestown or David Koresh😮
You mean infiltrated and funded by the CIA or having children murdered in cold blood by the FBI?
Sounds crazy! Like they actually follow the bible! WOW! Dangerous. Sounds like people could learn much good from them.
They don't, they are heretics. Even so, there are aspects of their way of life that appeal to me.
@@christopherfleming7505 How are they "heretics"? And who are you to judge them????
@@jakeo2806 They follow in the footsteps of the heretics of the 16th century, particularly Zwingli. Therefore they reject the Church that Our Lord Jesus Christ founded, along with many revealed truths. I do not judge them. I merely submit to the Church, and she has already judged them to be heretics. God bless +++
Your stated origins for the anaBaptist movement is only true for certain named sects. You should note that there have always been "heretical" groups all through the time of the "Christian era" . In the late 1300's in England the work of John Wycliffe exposed the existence of the Lollards , a non infant immersion sect, who though associated with Wycliffe , were already active in Britain. And only gained notoriety by publicizing his English translation . The Lollards claimed no origin other than the Apostle Paul, and claimed an ancient heritage in Britain tracing back before the apostasy of Papal Rome used the civil authorities to take over Britain by the work of St. Augustine in the 6th century . Baptist and AnaBaptist differ mostly in areas of nonresistance. And We do not consider ourselves "Protestants" since we were being slaughtered by Rome centuries prior to Luther.
U are a lollard?
Ur in England?
All heretics claim they can trace their roots back to Christ, because they all know that a man-made church is necessarily a fake church. Sadly, it's all fantasy, a bit like the freemasons who claim they date back to the head builder of Solomon's temple; total nonsense!
The only Church that can truly trace a direct line back to Christ Our Lord, is the Catholic Church. The present Pope Francis is the 266th head of the Universal Church, St. Peter being the first. You can easily search for a list of all the names and dates. There were some saintly popes (the first 30 or so all died for the faith as martyrs), there were plenty of mediocre ones, and there were some really bad ones. The point is that they were all legitimate successors of St. Peter, invested with authority passed down from Jesus Christ.
Neither Luther, nor Calvin, nor King Henry VIII, nor Meno Simons, had the authority to govern God's Church, much less start a new Church and invent new doctrines. Our Lord chose St. Peter to be the head of the Church once He ascended into heaven. If you don't like that, take it up with God. Submission to Peter is submission to Christ. "He who hears you hears me, he who rejects you rejects me." (Luke 10:16) God bless +++
@Ironhoy8913 AMEN!
So I still don’t understand what is an anabaptist? Is it solely about the rejection of Catholicism and infant baptism?
No - it's more than that...One thing was - in the early days of the Reformation, baptizing your child made them not only a member of the Church, but also a full citizen on the city rolls. One of the objecttions of the Anabaptists was the co-mingling of church and state. They felt that church matters should stay in the church, and that the state needed to be kept separate. Anabaptists were the original creators of the idea of the separation of Church and State - fundamental to the U.S. Constitution today.
This is what fundamentalist Baptist called " Open Door" Baptist. They buy out subdivisions and their congregation lives in them. Charles Lawson is the famous pastor of open door bpt knoxville TN
Very interesting @JubbyLandry, I'll have to check them out! Thanks for your comment.