The Tennis Prodigy with TWO FOREHANDS! (Next World #1 ? | Most Unorthodox Player EVER)
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One of the Unorthodox Players I have ever seen! The Guy with no backhand!
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An incredible tennis level of these both kids.
they will likely meet again many times in the future tournaments
Assuming 2 forehands with equal capabilities will mean superior reach for groundstrokes and volleys, superior overhead smash, more tricky serves using either hand, harder for opponents to figure a game plan, forehand cross court ball striking with heavy top spin on either wing will open up the court more against opponents, reduced wear and tear on shoulders and arms with option to alternate use of playing arm.
the question will be if he can switch hands fast enough when he gets older and ball speeds goes up. I assume he has a back hand for either hand as well surely.
@bosmith6992 I have 2 forehand, but also 2 backhands. There are some shots where it is difficult to react to changing hands, like fast serves, and the backhand is useful in a lot of situations.
It's a disadvantage when you have to switch hands instead of just switching your grip. Especially at the net or midcourt.
He needs to learn how to hit a good consistent one handed backhand, too. Shots like a slice are more efficient with a backhand. Same thing with a drop shot.
Best and cleanest 2 forehand-player I have ever seen. He will be a high level player, the rest is speculation at that age. It is sensational enough that one cannot spot any disadvantage.
Waaayyy too early to tell.
Pro sports is 99% size... Skill doesn't seem to matter much these days with technology.
Not sure people care. They really just want to watch tall attractive morons on TV anyway... 😊
so with the footwork to go with it.
He's weight training running a lot (outside)
OMG, and can serve with either hand!
The bouble kick serve will be brutal on clay
The serve indeed will be quite something!
The ambidextrous forehand is not a new concept. However I have never seen ambidextrous serve. That is quite the trick. What an interesting player
Definitely the most impressive part.
I hope both of them make it big in the pros. That kid in the hat has a one handed backhand ❤
Rafa is right handed taught to play leftie by Uncle Tony. So with training this is achievable. But l have seen a player use both hands before whenever he was running after a ball. The American hard hitter, James Blake. Great post Wivo. Always finding out something new. Most of all you have no idea how much l miss your intro music.
Thank you so much dear! The intro is never gone, but I can't use it in most of the recent videos due to copyrights unfortunately :(
Rafa is plays tennis left handed. He had a two handed forehand and backhand. Later on, his uncle told him to play his forehand one handed (left handed). Though he writes, use a knife, hammer with his right hand, kicks soccer ball with his right leg.
He said he felt natural using his left hand in tennis than his right hand.
Clearly no one here has read his biography...
@@sergiosimbula
You must be his uncle.
But yes, I read, saw videos of his uncle’s interview, etc.
Interviewed the Indonesian tennis player Lita Liem Sugiarto in 2006; she played on the circuit and was ambidextrous. She had been left-handed at birth, instructed to play with her right hand, but then when she was a teen a coach realized she was gifted to be able to play both sides. And at Wimbledon in the early 1970s, she played the Dutch player Marijke Schaar who was also ambidextrous!
Wow! The evolution of tennis at last. It was bound to happen and technically he has 2 forehands and 2 backhands. Davidov! stay the course, you incredible young man. Well done!
I think later it will be quite easy for him to develop a two handed BH/FH ( like Santoro ) when he doesn't have time to change grip. Crazy potential !
Excellent, high quality match between these two juniors.
Can't wait to see the future progression
Modern tennis being mostly baseline tennis, there is an interesting potential in this. That being said, most of the pictures of this video are borrowed from ``les petits as de Tarbes'', a competition that takes place every year for the less than 14 years old and he got quickly overplayed there and could only reach the 1/16th of final. The problem was not his ambidextruous tennis - many people were curious about it - but rather his size deficit with respect to other players of the same age : he got entirely overpowered... Time will tell but there is very little hope for anyone less than 6 feet in modern tennis.
So fun to watch! What a great match!
He can be first in forcing his opponent to run everywhere. forehand is less predictable because of shoulders position (which are more oriented with bachhand), so it will be harder to follow the ball
I like the French kid .. he’s a more of a future champ material ..
His playing style is mature . He has consistency . I like his one-handed backhand which is becoming rare to see it in the new generation players unfortunately ..
I’ll remind you after 5 years that he’ll be in the top 10 players , and I wish him a good luck ..
At this point it is like a fairy tale too hard to predict those 2 kids future. It could be either of them or both or even non :) I do like French tennis player style more too.
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I can't decide which forehand side is better...they are both super deadly! Amazing stuff! Can't wait to fail @ this playstyle this weekend 🤩He needs a special racket with 2 grips or 1 wide grip with a hole in it so he can always have it ready.
from an exhaustion standpoint on his arms he can at least spread out the load. crazy he’s serving with both hands as well
Twitching hands could be a disadvantage…but holding two rackets…that is next level!😊
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Hahaha...that's the missing piece. He needs a second racquet.
The kid hasn’t even hit puberty yet & his level is already insane. Interested to see how much this kid grows & how that serve grows w both forehands. Kid will develop a slice, it’s not needed when your young, once he faces big serves he will need it, not that hard to learn. The offence he gains from having 2 forehands is much better than the downside of not having the traditional backhand.
This just reminded me of my dad 50 years ago playing against him he used to do this not often but he was ambidextrous and a heck of an athlete
The problem is not the grip change but getting the hand in position down the handle. This requires more time than tilting the racket a bevel or two. But he does it very well here - though I saw a few shanks with his non-dominant rightie. It's a very interesting experiment. I see the biggest advantage in the ability to serve wide from both ad and deuce side. Probably some extra cognitive gains as well.
Either only 2xforehand or forehand-backhand ... these two youngster play some pretty good tennis.
Regarding angles the 2xforehand sure does have some advantages, Medical-wise the strain on body and especially back is more balanced and not to mention serving with various different spin. An interesting concept that should work very well especially on slower surfaces. Funny that a boy comes up with the idea. For girls or women the advantage should be even higher.
This boy is magic. 👍
Amazing tennis. I had no idea how good these young guys are. I have been watching a lot of Roger Federer videos lately and these young guys are approaching this level of skill. The Frenchman is displaying a whole lot of talent.
Will watch out for this two boys - one with a unique playing style, the other with a one handed back hand. Hope the latter won’t change. I guess the former will probably change his style later.
I love the variety of Rossillol's game. His backhand is beautiful. His game plan is good. With hard work and consistency, he could be Top 100 in 5 years.
Interesting. I applaud the wholistic approach. Would be fruitful to develop a backhand as another weapon for slicing, more drops, minimize overuse injury potential to the forearm
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I started playing with two forehands from the beginning and I figured out a very, very quick and reliable way to switch the racquet while running, so it is not a problem to do that at moderate level. However I don't know when you play at highest possible level whether you can do that. I believe NO, I still think you 100% need to have a good backhand so you can use it in situations where you are at extreme pressure and don't have a chance (and balance) to switch hands. Still, I'm also 100% sure this could work and I expect more and more to start doing this while someone truly crack the top 3 one day with two forehands.
Can't wait to see him play if he makes it to the pro circuit
It's a disadvantage especially at the net and midcourt if you need to change hands instead of simply changing a grip. In old school tennis you were taught not to change your grip at the net. You use a Continental grip so you could volley on both sides without changing your grip.
Maybe a revolution in the tennis
Nope 😂😅😊❤
The problems I'd see are:
1)Whether it affects initial balance and acceleration when changing direction or pushing off as having two hands on the racket to change grip take a split second more time
2) Might cause a lack of variation in game so might be easier for an opponent to deal with less change in the spin and angle compared to mixing forehand and backhand through the rally...though the positive is it makes it easier to get wide high balls back into play.
3) Will the change of grip lead to a few misplaced hand positions and lack of consistentcy? I'm sure though that that can all be trained out.
All depends on how the kid applies himself. We've seen players add new styles into the games with success and failure and we've seen good juniors that have gone nowhere and less talented juniors that have become top ten players.
Application and determination.
I am an ambidextrous player and here are my responses:
1. I handle the grip right at the split step. I have no problem at all when I am back. When I am up closer, I usually only do a left handed volley and a right handed overhead. That works for me... but if I need tom a can still switch hands by choking up on my grip with the right hand and putting my left hand at the end of the racket.
2. I feel like I can spin much better both ways by having a forehand only.
3. My grip with both hands is always there. See #2.
Hope that helps!
When will we see the return of the legendary “no handed backhand swing” first shown to us by the great Glenn Quagmire. The original bad boy of tennis
No backhand or slice = no pro even most slice spammers like David evans, Lopez aren't that common at the pro level but not having a slice at all is a huge disadvantage because slicing slows down the pace, and allows you to be to balls on the stretch overhand slices are also important
Have you ever heard of forehand slices?
The thing is... he would have good running forehand on both side... He wont need to reach with slice. If he can be more consistent than anyone at baseline rally, then its an advantage. Dont need slice if you dont miss often. Imagine federer having 2 forehand similar on both side all his balls would be so heavy and accurate.
He has a forehand slice on both sides.
I understand that he can still get balls on the stretch with 2 overhand slices but 2 forehands is a joke no player has been pro with 2 forehands besides 1 person ranked near 600 (still a respectable ranking when compared to every player in the world) but come on if slice spammers can't consistently be in the top 30 how can he? No backhand= no pro
Monica Seles seemed to have two forehands as she hit both sides hard and pretty flat with two hands. This kid is straight up one handed on both wings! Curious to see how he develops. Winning in juniors doesn't necessarily translate to pros. Pete Sampras was laughed at when he went to a one handed backhand as a junior, then did amazing as he aged.
I am more impressed with the other kid... speed, serve, slice, variations.
More impressed with the bigger, older kid who lost?
@@downwinder3 How do you know he's older?
@@downwinder3 They were both born in 2010, so he's not older. Davidov is just very small for his age
@@downwinder3 Great logic! If bigger = older, then John Isner must be 100 years old! LMAO
After playing tennis the traditional way for thirty years, with a two-handed backhand, I switched to two forehands like this kid a couple years ago. Not sure why people are so against it. You can see my videos of me playing on big boy tennis.
Two handed backhand traditional? Only if you think tennis was invented in the 80s.
The exchange between hand, time avail. & power level of play will be an issue. Backhand strongly suggested.
at one of his two forehand sides he has to place his hand on the grip closer to the middle of the racket otherwise switching wouldnt work, so he will have less reach, spin and leverage on one forehand side. not to mention that switching between two forehands takes longer and is more errorprone than switching from forehand to backhand grip
I think in the long run it will prove to be unsustainable after he crosses a certain level in the sense that the best players in the world will use this technique of his to his own detriment by creating confusion because footwork is also an extremely significant factor in tennis and this player will easily be wrong footed creating a logistical nightmare for him after his opponents realise his achilles heel or his kryptonite for a lack of a better metaphor. It’s best, in my humble opinion, he corrects his method of approach early during his tennis career, if he wants to pursue the sport professionally that is, because I do believe that he has the potential to develop a lethal backhand and generally feel he has a tremendous amount of promise in this sport. I feel the best way to achieve the aforementioned would be to play other sports especially racquet sports and explore what feels more comfortable to him in terms of choosing an arm and wrist as the preferred option for a backhand. It may be a steep learning curve in the beginning, especially if he doesn’t already play other racquet sports but I believe with hard work and dedication; great feats are possible for him. I thank you- Dr. Ray (MBChB)
I would think that the next step for him is to make sure he can play a backhand on each side as well. With my limited knowledge of tennis I feel that it is an important stroke as when the play gets quicker you need to be able to play a backhand since you won't always be able to get out of the way of a ball coming straight at you to play the forehand. This is where he will come undone at higher levels if he doesn't learn to play a backhand.
I have always wondered if this would work or if it would add a split second of time switching the racket to the other hand.
There was a kid in Denver who won a high school state championship with two forehands. He could go far -- maybe to a D1 or D2 scholarship. Pro tennis rare air for anyone.
I'm left-handed, but I am a right-handed tennis player. If I feel stressed, somehow I 'naturally' switch hands and do the same as this kid with my left hand. Never considered it a possibility, so I just learned the regular backhand. I can see how this happened to him, though.
Both are fantastic. the French kid has a beautiful backhand.
He’s got some destructive left forehands, no doubt about it.
His lefty shot looks flatter, and the right shot more loopy.
That coach is creating a European Ryoma Echizen ....
Hope that other kid keeps at it too. Thay one handed back hand action looks so good.
I've been using two forehands for a couple of years now. I play at a low level so I haven't really had issues with sufficient time to switch. At my level though, opponents hit to my "backhand" and assume they will have an instant advantage and they are wrong about that. started doing it due to back issues because it means less bending in the back. I'm pretty comfortable with it at this point.
I feel that at higher levels, when a 2FH doesn't have enough time to switch hands, he just hits it with a backhand (which he would or should at least have trained to a devent level) instead. 2H backhand players also hit backhands with 1H if they're really stressed for time or need to reach further than normal.
@@Funkytrip73 yeah that's about how it goes--if for whatever reason i can't get the racket switched i just go for a one-handed backhand. Can be a nice break since it's a different set of muscles.
He serves with both hands too. Very interesting.
That switch of grip could be a huge nightmare for him on the professional tour.
Yeah and he is too small to play behind the base line you see alex demin ripping the crap out of the ball and moves insanly fast
he got a few years to worry about it
And you know that from??
@@FastToysClub the fact no one ever succeeded with it
@@rebirth_mishap Do you know of other players with 2 forehands?
Pleased to see someone like me. Hope one of our kind would play grand slam some day.
2:56 back hand
The kid is ambidextrous and most probably has hypermobility (double jointed). I think Sinner has similar hypermobility too. These kind of players pull off superior shots almost out of nowhere.
what’s the bat looking thing he’s hitting with?
He was number 2 in the world in the itf rankings for his age in March, clearly kid can play
Imagine showing up for your first tournament...and you start off by drawing the guy with two forehands. That would suck.
wow haha the real life prince of tennis even dressed up like ryoma from the anime. Crazy the influence anime has on people
The opponent will just serve to his BH every time. Also they guy has to keep attacking to prevent the opponent from hitting deep to his BH. He needs to have something special to prevent the opponent from attacking his weakness.
This kid does no have backhand.
Can someone please let me know why did they played the ball on a let at 9:52 ? Are they playing under different rules? Don't think I've ever saw that before in a competition.
True test will be how fast can he change grips to 130 mph and higher return of serves. What If he plays a guy like Isner on the tour in the future. Is he going to be able to switch grips fast enough? No doubt the groundstroke game will be solid, but if you can't return high speed serves well enough, you can't turn pro.
Isner won no majors so what the hell your commenting about 130 mph out second serve 89😅😂😊❤
@davidgivins4203 David you should probably think more before you post..... My point exactly. Isner was just an example of someone with no majors and a big serve. Do you know how many players serve 130mph plus? Lol....if you can't return "High speed" serves you aren't going to come anywhere close to even top 1000. Not saying this kid can't, but that will be a huge challenge for this play style
@@Zach78z I guess we both need to thinking before we post! His style of play is not different as he hit from both sides and he’ll be with all others who play against someone who is a big server dealing with it! School time for you! 130 is nothing yet 110 placement of serve is everything hence Sampras and Roger! Roddick won one major! he’ll grow into his tennis physicality and see where it takes him as very few tennis players win majors! He’ll be wealth from his style of play as gale mofi talent with no major yet rich! Free lesson! Mann pay me🤣😂😆🤔🫢
@@davidgivins4203 Omg David. You really have no idea what you are talking about. You will not be able to switch hand positions fast enough on really fast serves. Definitely not on 130 and higher. he will have to have either a 1 or 2 handed backhand to handle the return on either right or left side. Not saying he can't have 2 forehands at baseline. Keep in mind you are talking to someone who played college tennis, knows tennis, has played a few professional level players on tour. You can claim you can teach me all you want, but it's all talk. You have no real world high level experience. If you are my level or claim to be my level or higher, then you are like the Mary Joe Fernandez of tennis. She was a decent player on tour, but her commentary is mind bogglingly dumb... It's a good thing she listened to her coaches! If you were good, it's a good thing you listened to your coaches.... LOL!!!
BTW he is a Bulgarian kid living in the US or born there I am not sure. I have seen some bits on Bulgarian TV. Rarely proud to be Bulgarian born naturalized American this days. Go get them kid!
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we played a guy in high school who had a two handed backhand and forehand
The two forehands will probably be a disadvantage with how hard people will be hitting the ball
What? How is it a disadvantage? You switch your grip for a backhand aswell anyways so I’d say this is an advantage because the time to switch grip is around the same and it would be a lot stornger
You don’t always have to switch the grip
And you can hit the ball harder with a two handed backhand vs a lefty forehand
@@abedintheshed8696probably cause there’s no neutral forehand grip
You hit to one side come on in then volley to the other side and the two forehand thing is toast. If you wrong foot him the two handed game is toast. If you rush the kid, the two forehands fall apart the quicker the game gets.
Why not just teach the kid to hit a backhand?
Terrible coaching.
Only if his left hand drive is stronger and more controlled than his right arm backhand. He is a right hand server in any case. He is ambidextruos, but he serves with his right arm. There is always a better arm. Switching grips can as well be a competitiveness issue.
He serves with both.
I may have missed something. I saw him serve with his right arm from both sides...that I did. But it may be that he swtiches by serving with either arm from either side. Quite a challenge for him, or definitely for the opponent if he does it well!
The only way hitting forehands from either side works, is if he has two racquets. No switching required.😂
As a lefty tennis player I can tell you my backhand is the better stroke. I never, ever lose on my backhand
Its awesome to have two forehands, but structurally you can't create as much back spin with a chop fore hand as you can with a chop backhand. If he doesn't have a backhand, he doesn't have a major tool in tennis.
I played against a kid...Jerry Gonzalez in the 10's and12's with 2 forehands.....by the 14's we all had to much power for him.....Pick a backhand my man...see ya at Wimby!
What are these rules where they play “let” serves?
Huge advantage if he can make each forehand of equivalent strength
Fascinating! Davidov may or may not be the one to take this to the top of the rankings, but I wouldn't be surprised to see two forehands go mainstream at some point in the near future.
He is the ultimate lefty neutralizer.
Switching hands will be a disadvantage, thus Battistone 2-handed racket.
This reminds me of anime prince of tennis. 😂
Imagine he will just stay in the middle of the court and forehand the ball to two sides of his opponents 😂
Can a tennis player hold two racquets? Cos he wouldn't need to switch grip.
Ball toss by holding with both racquets? lol
@HankHell41 Great point! And he just need to hang the racquet on his back like a swordsman when tossing? 😄
@@jackjhmc820 honestly sounds badass
Think about what the off hand is doing during a forehand shot, would never work
@@jordanfehr2757 Great point ! U are right! Forget about 2 racquets, I wonder if switching hand randomly would disrupt the opponent? Whether that s in serves or volleys, or strokes ?
Like surprising the opponent when he suddenly switches to the other hand for service game such that both serves could go for wide angles?
Why there is not let rule in the service?
No idea really. Maybe they're trying something different
I knew a kid who pitched in baseball from both sides.
two forehands could be an advantage, but without a bh slice I wonder if his game will be too predictable. What he does for balls coming to the body is another question. I would love to see him grow up and test this new style against conventional tennis though.
for being #1 I believe it takes a lot more than technique alone. If he has the mental discipline of a #1, and a good team why not.
He will at least need a backhand slice. There are certain things you can do with a backhand that are not replicable with forehand. THat plus the time to change hands means trouble.
Until he develops a backhand on both hands and is able to volley on the backhand side on both hands he is going to have a disadvantage with movement despite having the two forehands.
well, i'll be...i will be scared playing someone with two forehands..five more years..
I play tennis about 10 times a year, I have no backhand, I swap hands and have 2 forehands. I get into problems when the ball comes straight at me.
ITS natural to play like this to me. the correct develoment of this tecnicque give to you a great adventage. i can train this kid to have a more natural movment
Sure you can.
I play the same way. A good player will exploit this strategy at the higher levels with shots aimed right at the player forcing a slight loss of time during the transition phase. It's cool and all but not a long term formula for success
OMG what a monster!
It depends on what his WHY is. There are lots of prodigies.
Best of luck, but having to switch hands to stay on your forehand seems tricky to execute against elite ground strokes or against a 125mph first serve
I could never understand why no one developed the ability to switch hands at the pro level.
I can also play 2 forehands and serve but sadly Im lost too addiction 😢
Monica Seles played with 2 hands on both sides.
Finally someone with a modern/futurist brain in the game.
Wrong an anomaly! What's an anomaly anyway 😂😅😊❤
@@davidgivins4203 Dictionary. Oh wait you can't even google it?
He’ll wake up one day and decide he is bored.
I wonder which grip he uses when he volleys at the net
I've only seen two backhands!
I couldn´t see any advantage from having two forehands that would´ve played a role in him winning the match. Two issues: 1) Changing the racket from one hand to the other is slow and might cause problems with coordination. 2) A backhand offers the variability between top spin and slice, two forehands don´t.
Yup , two forehands and one low forehead !!
Both kids will reach a high level but i think he will struggle switching hands when the speed gets higher.