The Classic SAS MP5 + Maglite

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    On May 5th, 1980, black-clad members of the 22nd Regiment of the Special Air Service descended upon the besieged Iranian Embassy to eliminate six terrorists holding the embassy civilians hostage.
    The choice of weapon was the MP5, but some members had large torches (flashlights) rigged on top of the iconic SMG... modern CQB techniques with some of the first techniques of employing the weapon mounted light were born from this combination.
    How effective is this? What lights were used? How did they attach the light? We do a live demonstration of the infamous SAS ‪@magliteflashlights‬ equipped ‪@HecklerKochTV‬SP5.
    Special thanks to Steven for trading me for the skinny handguard!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 468

  • @AdministrativeResults
    @AdministrativeResults 3 роки тому +495

    Desire for MP5 had *escalated*

  • @wynnanderson2630
    @wynnanderson2630 3 роки тому +100

    Back in '88 I was one of 22 BP Agents that received MP5 training from Phil Singleton, former SAS and a veteran of the Iranian Embassy incident. He taught us to use the sling by adjusting it to our arms length and pointing it straight out keeping it just below chin level. Shoulders square to the target. Not using sights. Whether the target was on our level or above or below, as long as we kept the MP5 extended just below our chin we would not miss. He also taught us how to shoot while moving. (Proper foot technique). He taught us to move into our target and not stop to shoot. With a little practice we were able to engage hostage taker targets on full auto in low light scenarios while moving aggressively forward.
    He was the first former operator I had encountered that was a superb instructor.
    I pray he is alive and well.

    • @tsoliot5913
      @tsoliot5913 Рік тому +1

      Excellent info, thank you.

    • @kevinmorrice
      @kevinmorrice 11 місяців тому +3

      That's how you do it, instinct over logic

    • @HuxMan909
      @HuxMan909 6 місяців тому +1

      Badass

  • @dongblak7048
    @dongblak7048 3 роки тому +218

    "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men with guns attached to their flashlights stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."

    • @ayranbrotherhood668
      @ayranbrotherhood668 3 роки тому +4

      This made me laugh way to hard, deserves more likes 👍

    • @gfarrell80
      @gfarrell80 3 роки тому +11

      "We sleep soundly in our beds because volunteer poor people with guns are propagandized into and rewarded for going to far places and killing people who would dare resist our colonial hegemony."

    • @LDR1100RS
      @LDR1100RS 3 роки тому +10

      @@gfarrell80 There is some truth to this. I had few options coming out of high school. The army gave me my start. I am no longer a poor person. Thanks, Military!

    • @conrad152
      @conrad152 3 роки тому

      Well said !!!

    • @walterjordan7844
      @walterjordan7844 3 роки тому

      you probably dont give a shit but if you're stoned like me atm you can stream pretty much all the latest movies and series on Instaflixxer. Have been streaming with my brother for the last couple of months =)

  • @12vscience
    @12vscience 3 роки тому +89

    On an interesting note, the deadly weapon known as a Maglite can have it's lethality increased by attaching an MP5 to it.

  • @byron3604
    @byron3604 3 роки тому +228

    "what the hell kind of name is sOaP anyways?"

    • @demtricolor
      @demtricolor 3 роки тому +23

      How'd a muppet like you passed selection?

    • @amirammar1269
      @amirammar1269 3 роки тому +7

      Soap trusted you

    • @wakyblarg
      @wakyblarg 3 роки тому +3

      @@amirammar1269 WE. ARE. LEAVING!

    • @AlexTM44
      @AlexTM44 3 роки тому +5

      "Your fruit killing skills are remarkable"

    • @turogamer-oi4nq
      @turogamer-oi4nq 3 роки тому +1

      "soap"
      "I think this belongs to you"
      "Who's soap"

  • @Glurgi
    @Glurgi 3 роки тому +65

    CORRECTION: 02:03, Margaret Thatcher is posing with the SAS, not the other way around.

    • @TheFirstVonGunther
      @TheFirstVonGunther 3 роки тому +7

      A scapel doesn't pose with its surgeon . I'll give her her due. She had the balls to use them.

    • @donaldist7321
      @donaldist7321 3 роки тому

      and did anyone notice how Henry suddenly had this minor public school accent? Or am I hallucinating because I am looking at an MP5?

  • @john88benson
    @john88benson 3 роки тому +203

    I think this is the kinda throw back build were Garand Thumb offers to pay your tuition if you bring it to an accredited CQB Course.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  3 роки тому +58

      He's got an S10 respi too I think. (I know it's technically S6 for this era)

    • @maxcady645
      @maxcady645 3 роки тому +24

      @@9HoleReviews make Garand thumb do a SAS short film with you

    • @Excalibur01
      @Excalibur01 3 роки тому +31

      @@9HoleReviews We all want a crossover where Henry is a member of Garand Thumb's Taskforce 69

    • @ASlipknotFreak
      @ASlipknotFreak 3 роки тому +3

      @@Excalibur01 Yessss

    • @renatosureal
      @renatosureal 3 роки тому

      I am sorry but **mounted LIGHTS are the biggest BS ever** as they reveal your position to the enemy.

  • @jameslight4936
    @jameslight4936 3 роки тому +151

    I like your interest in explaining and demonstrating historically accurate firearms, and setups...got me hooked.

  • @PaletoB
    @PaletoB 3 роки тому +230

    I guess I'm not the only one who read the SAS books in the late 1990s and stormed my neighbors house with a flashlight taped to a wood MP5? 😅

  • @chrisenloe3972
    @chrisenloe3972 3 роки тому +40

    I would tape a maglite inside the tube of my m203 when we did MOUT training back in the early 90s

    • @BrianKern2121
      @BrianKern2121 3 роки тому +10

      We used to tape mini-mag lights to our M-16A2 handguards in 03. We weren't cool enough to have surefires as Boot Marines.

  • @sumeshkuriakose
    @sumeshkuriakose 3 роки тому +18

    Wow ,
    Learned something new ! Each time I watched these Iranian embassy siege footage from 80s I was under the impression they were carrying MP5 with a scope .... lol.... now I knew what it was..

  • @dieEiserneHand
    @dieEiserneHand 3 роки тому +53

    You could talk to Rusty Firmin SAS TV about this topic. He was one of the SAS guys on Op Nimrod and now has a youtube channel.

    • @maxcady645
      @maxcady645 3 роки тому +1

      Good old Rusty, I like him and his channel too.

    • @dieEiserneHand
      @dieEiserneHand 3 роки тому +2

      @@maxcady645 Yes, he is a likable chap.

    • @eboy146
      @eboy146 3 роки тому

      He also has a book called the regiment 15 years in the was, he doesn't fully go into detail about the embassy assault unfortunately.

    • @maxcady645
      @maxcady645 3 роки тому +2

      @@eboy146 his other book “GO! GO! GO!” Does

    • @Excalibur01
      @Excalibur01 3 роки тому

      RIP John Mac

  • @stone9302
    @stone9302 3 роки тому +14

    6:55 I could almost feel that handguard pinching my hand when he snapped it into place.

  • @alihilly1
    @alihilly1 3 роки тому +101

    Apparently the SAS used to paint on crosshairs to their maglite’s. Doing so gave them rudimentary sights with the light. Super forward thinking chaps.

    • @brannuthin1469
      @brannuthin1469 3 роки тому +16

      I was wondering if anyone ever tried anything like that. 🤔
      Or tried modifying the rear of the lights to be like those Vietnam era red dot sights that you can't actually see though. I forget what they called them...

    • @johnbeauvais3159
      @johnbeauvais3159 3 роки тому +23

      @@brannuthin1469 Occulded eye sights

    • @johnbeauvais3159
      @johnbeauvais3159 3 роки тому +11

      I don’t doubt that they tried it but it wouldn’t work. You’d have to paint the lines so thick it would obscure too much of the lens, plus the heat from that bulb would cook the paint off.

    • @jpenna1976
      @jpenna1976 3 роки тому +9

      Those old Maglites have enough hotspot for inside room distance aiming. Some of them used early Streamlight lights, which had different shaped front part than on maglite. You can make the difference from pictures.

    • @cletustheslackjawedyokel6083
      @cletustheslackjawedyokel6083 3 роки тому +5

      There were special lights that were factory produced for just this purpose.
      hkparts.net/product/illuminating-light-and-aiming-projector-hk-g3-mp5.htm

  • @Chris_Garman
    @Chris_Garman 3 роки тому +62

    When your weapon light out weighs the weapon it's mounted to. Is this like having a car stereo worth more than the car it's in?

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  3 роки тому +42

      80's baby. Don't forget your massive Motorola handheld radio like how major players also had car phones in their cars back then.

    • @zoopercoolguy
      @zoopercoolguy 3 роки тому +8

      Bonus though, if the weapon fails, you can dismount the light and use it as a very effective club.

    • @Chris_Garman
      @Chris_Garman 3 роки тому +6

      @@9HoleReviews I only remember bag phones, then bricks, then the miniature wars began. Now they are bricks again, well more like tiles I guess.

    • @immikeurnot
      @immikeurnot 3 роки тому +9

      @@zoopercoolguy It's why cops back then all carried 6-D Maglites. Could use it to see, and could use it to beat ass.

    • @zoopercoolguy
      @zoopercoolguy 3 роки тому +7

      @@immikeurnot An EMT in the 90s told me he filled a broken 6D cell Maglite with cement for breaking down barriers.

  • @Excalibur01
    @Excalibur01 3 роки тому +11

    I remember seeing old photos of Desert Storm of Marines hose clamping similar Maglites to their M16s

  • @sworntoavenge
    @sworntoavenge 3 роки тому +3

    The development of different tactics and impromptu solutions is probably one of the coolest parts of weapons history in my opinion. To see the development of what we now term special forces, and their equipment, from the late 40s up through the 80s and 90s is fascinating.

  • @genericpersonx333
    @genericpersonx333 3 роки тому +3

    Had an associate who served with "special forces" starting back in the late 1960s, and he always joked that the difference between the bottom and the top tiers of operators was how much time they spent tinkering with the gear using whatever they could find from the hardware store. Dedicated operators didn't wait for the government to give them a solution, they made their own, literally, and of course adjusted to personal preference. His personal favorite was adjusting a certain clip so that when he flicked his wrist a certain way, it came undone without fuss. A small thing, but he really hated using two hands to disengage the clip normally, so he just made it work with not even one hand.

  • @Gerwulf97
    @Gerwulf97 3 роки тому +11

    Solutions like this are things the internet would roast people for. It's only cause the anointed SAS did it that people think it's cool, which it is.

  • @asphaltmemories4597
    @asphaltmemories4597 3 роки тому +10

    I swear that picture of margaret thatcher flanked by the SAS is one of the most chilling photos ever. It reminds me of something out of the movie 'Brazil'.

    • @ianmacfarlane1241
      @ianmacfarlane1241 3 роки тому +7

      Most photos of Thatcher are pretty chilling to be fair.

    • @mrmicro22
      @mrmicro22 3 роки тому +7

      A leader acknowledging the accomplishments of her nation's military? Having such respect for the military she hopes it runs off on her? You and I have very different definitions of chilling.

    • @ianmacfarlane1241
      @ianmacfarlane1241 3 роки тому +1

      @@mrmicro22 She could easily have acknowledged their accomplishments in the usual way - a press conference or statement.
      Posing with members of, (at that point) a relatively unknown regiment (to the British public) was great for her ego.
      It was little more than a self serving photo opportunity for Thatcher.
      Much like her careering around West Germany in a Challenger tank.

    • @asphaltmemories4597
      @asphaltmemories4597 3 роки тому +2

      @@mrmicro22 A woman who dresses and acts as part of the upper cream of polite society flanked by some of the best special forces operatives in the world that she can call upon at any given notice to perform wet work doesn't elicit some fear in you?

    • @gfarrell80
      @gfarrell80 3 роки тому +1

      Glad I wasn't the only one chilled a little bit... heeby jeebies. That photo certainly wasn't the beginning, but certainly helped out the rise of SWAT/paramilitary police forces.

  • @hateferlife
    @hateferlife 3 роки тому +1

    I was born in ‘80. It’s hard to believe how far the tech has gone in my lifetime. When I left the Army there was a real push to get a thermal to every Rifleman on the line. My last position was Instructor/Writer with 2-29 IN, the Small Arms proponent for the Infantry. I can tell you from experience the best growth for weapon accessories is the free (civilian) market, that big ol’ Army ship don’t move too fast on her own.
    So, to my peeps out there in the shooting community I say KEEP IT UP! Market forces bring great change and make a more lethal Soldier!
    And a heartfelt Thank You is also in order!

  • @ejomatic7480
    @ejomatic7480 3 роки тому +13

    I'll admit, my love for the MP5 is because of Stargate SG-1, but this was a good video and I gasped in delight when I realized you were going to bring out the handguard with the integrated light. :D
    Love this channel, keep following your hearts because y'all make great content doing exactly that it seems.

  • @jonathanferguson1211
    @jonathanferguson1211 3 роки тому +3

    It's worth noting that the 1996 footage may have had a SAS bloke advising, but he got bits of kit wrong; the suede assault waistcoat is the Mk. 2, which wasn't issued until after the siege. Probably a bit of "I don't know what it's called, I only know the sound it makes when it takes a man's life" going on i.e. he went with the available kit. The confirmed siege photos all either show Streamlights in metal sleeves or are indistinct. That said, I think both torches were probably in use during that mission.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  3 роки тому

      Big fan of your videos! Agreed on this, and perhaps we should have emphasized this more... the main point of this video was to draw to the techniques that were developed during that era and how it's really affected our understanding and deployment of WML's.
      Perhaps we could emphasize your point here that as typical operators, nobody that day paid attention to the brands of kit used, but rather only the method of how it was used, which often leaves us (who are geeks about the kit used) confused and bickering amongst each other.
      While I do think there is a potential that both brands were used, realistically Maglite had only established in 1979, and it would be a very short timeframe to sell across the pond... but not impossible. We are certain with the images that the kel-lite/streamlite versions were used on May 1980 from images. Maglites do make appearances in later SAS images, but this is once again a prime example of the operator's mindset where they care less about the brand and more about whether it works... which graciously allows us the joys of debating amongst each other about the brand of kit.
      See you around :) -Henry

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 3 роки тому

      @@9HoleReviews Thank you! No criticism intended by the way - just an observation. Rivet-counting kit-bothering doesn't affect the content of the video one bit :)

  • @tuck234
    @tuck234 3 роки тому +26

    I need this.... I need an MP5 now more than ever... dammit!
    All seriousness tho. Super happy to see this being brought to light, no pun intended, about the MP5 and the utilizing of lights in regards to the SAS.

    • @Excalibur01
      @Excalibur01 3 роки тому +1

      I may just sell my custom Scorpion to get started on an MP5 regardless of the cost.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 роки тому +1

      @@Excalibur01 get the PTR. It's half the price and more reliable. Plus, if you win the lottery you can drop a registered trigger pack in, all HK parts are interchangeable.

    • @Excalibur01
      @Excalibur01 3 роки тому

      @@ScottKenny1978 If I win the lottery, I'd get an actual MP5 made by the Germans

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 роки тому +1

      @@Excalibur01 fair enough.
      In the meantime, you can get the PTR.

  • @CrazyIvan2X
    @CrazyIvan2X 3 роки тому +12

    Nice die hard 2 reference with the colored tape on the mags.

  • @knowtheplan472
    @knowtheplan472 3 роки тому +1

    The top mounted flashlight seems really impractical but so cool. Everything about that MP5 setup just does it for me man

    • @adamcichon6957
      @adamcichon6957 2 роки тому +1

      I don't know man. It seems that contraption, at it's time, was pretty well though out. I'd pause the video, and it looks like Henry could've flash straight to the targets head (alive target would be blinded) and still hit below the neck line into upper thorax. Also, from what i remember, SAS operators trained to shoot the head, so they could've flash the forhead to blind and recognize the target at the same time, than shoot the targeted person into cerebellum through the mouth... quite nasty ideas...

  • @gnarshread
    @gnarshread 3 роки тому +67

    Never underestimate a Brit with something they made in a shed.

    • @peterbenson2185
      @peterbenson2185 3 роки тому +15

      Accuracy International. 'Nuff said.

    • @TRIIGGAVELLI
      @TRIIGGAVELLI 3 роки тому +1

      Sometimes they just need a little help from the Germans or Americans. Thats all, but they try.

    • @jakeweston8616
      @jakeweston8616 3 роки тому +1

      @@TRIIGGAVELLI Exactly

    • @darrensamy6625
      @darrensamy6625 3 роки тому +2

      p.a luty

    • @turnip5359
      @turnip5359 2 роки тому +2

      Noble, the car company

  • @Doublezzranch
    @Doublezzranch 3 роки тому +4

    I made a mount for my UZI to hold a Mag Light by using a fence post mount. Removed the front grip and used the grip screw holes to hold it.
    That was almost 30 years ago lol.

  • @josephbell7994
    @josephbell7994 3 роки тому +1

    Nice back story, I had a class not long ago ask when and who used the first weapons mounted lights. Now I have a start point, I told them "it had to be a SF unit". I was not not far off. Love the channel guys, keep it up...

  • @TooManyChoices1
    @TooManyChoices1 3 роки тому +4

    Ahh, yes!! The “tactical hose clamp and maglite” special !! The original picatinny lol.

  • @sebastianstieuroteam3087
    @sebastianstieuroteam3087 3 роки тому +3

    Great vid bro! Very interesting for sure. And since we’re talking about SAS, R.I.P John McAleese

  • @johnhudson1545
    @johnhudson1545 Рік тому

    I remember when I was a kid watching this television on the news in May of 1980. When I saw that it was the coolest thing I've ever seen. Made up my mind that one day I would do something similar.

  • @traildogisla
    @traildogisla 3 роки тому +4

    It's easy to forget how much of a step forward the maglite was

    • @12vscience
      @12vscience 3 роки тому +1

      I was taught to use the maglite as a striking weapon.

  • @Toggers99
    @Toggers99 3 роки тому +16

    This kind of improvised solution to a problem that plagued police and military is what leads to true innovation in tactics and technology that we take for granted today, and I love to see the history of it.
    I wonder if you could be convinced to do a video/s on the history of US SWAT development and the tools and tactics that they have adopted and/or developed.

    • @peterbenson2185
      @peterbenson2185 3 роки тому +2

      The "Halligan / Hooligan bar" is one... just a builders crowbar with a hook welded on, But then the idea got used around the world and refined into a very technical device.

  • @kylefarris8866
    @kylefarris8866 3 роки тому +22

    Every time I see an MP5, I think of the movie Die Hard (1988).

    • @ClericalConsequences
      @ClericalConsequences 3 роки тому +5

      As you should

    • @kylefarris8866
      @kylefarris8866 3 роки тому +5

      @@ClericalConsequences "Now I have a machine gun. Ho-Ho-Ho."

    • @sethrich5998
      @sethrich5998 3 роки тому +3

      I’m seriously considering buying an SP5 entirely because of that movie. lol
      Most my guns are specifically for competition shooting, but I might talk myself into that just cause. Ha

    • @kylefarris8866
      @kylefarris8866 3 роки тому

      @@sethrich5998 yeah, $2,800 is quite a bit.

    • @12vscience
      @12vscience 3 роки тому

      A great Christmas movie for the entire family.

  • @THEMARTIALARTSCHANNEL-bb4fx
    @THEMARTIALARTSCHANNEL-bb4fx 3 місяці тому

    John Wiseman was one of the main guys who put togheter the counter terrorist operation. He came up with many of these ideas. Really smart guy. Most people only know him from his first survival book. But he did A LOT more than that. This included.

  • @ftdefiance1
    @ftdefiance1 3 роки тому +21

    Mag lights were still the bomb in the 80's. It would be interesting to see an article on pre weapon light tactics and solutions

    • @DevilbyMoonlight
      @DevilbyMoonlight 3 роки тому +2

      quite a lot of squaddies carried them in the 80's - they made a pretty good 'implement of retribution' a non lethal one too as long as you didn't whack the scrote too hard with it....

    • @ftdefiance1
      @ftdefiance1 3 роки тому

      @@DevilbyMoonlight I trusted a mag light a hell of a lot more then a straight handle baton. If I needed to stop a fight a mag light to a wrist or knee worked.

    • @somersethuscarl2938
      @somersethuscarl2938 3 роки тому +1

      Still got mine, 10 foot away from me next to the fuse box and the door.

    • @tenchraven
      @tenchraven 3 роки тому +2

      In the 80s? Well into the 90s. High speed, tax payer funded guys had 60 and 90 lumen Surefires that took two or three batteries that cost five bucks, lasted less than an hour and were unobtanium starting around 1990 and it stayed that way until around 97 or 98. And I still have several Mags- with the LED conversion, your 6D cell Mag lasts a long time. I tried to kill a set of batteries, got bored after four days. 100+ hours and I can perform field expedient brain surgery with it all the day is long is a good combo.

    • @ftdefiance1
      @ftdefiance1 3 роки тому

      @@tenchraven that is likely true. I have first hand experience in the 80's.

  • @2Aknight762
    @2Aknight762 3 роки тому +1

    Similar to LARRY VICKERS hose clamping and taping flashlights to CAR-15s during his time in Delta Force.

  • @axelgs11
    @axelgs11 Рік тому

    Being the only business that imported Maglites back in the 70's 80's I and my partner invented and introduced this system to 22 SAS not only for the MP5 but also the 870 Remington 12 gauge shotgun.

  • @FuryTomic
    @FuryTomic 3 роки тому +16

    My MP5 can’t be this cool! Damn, now I want to try one..

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  3 роки тому +3

      oh dude i mean to comment on your video!

    • @jonathansmith7306
      @jonathansmith7306 3 роки тому

      Did you intentionally time your MP5 videos to come out at the same time

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  3 роки тому +2

      @@jonathansmith7306 Pure coincidence, but I learned about the THICCCCCCCC GFL MP5.

    • @FuryTomic
      @FuryTomic 3 роки тому +2

      @@9HoleReviews

    • @FuryTomic
      @FuryTomic 3 роки тому

      @@jonathansmith7306 No this actually pure coincidence

  • @Stoney_AKA_James
    @Stoney_AKA_James 3 роки тому +1

    Back in the mid 1970s we (Rangers) were shown how to mount a Maglite to the handguard by the SF Blue Light Task Force. Crude by today's standards, but it worked.

    • @Excalibur01
      @Excalibur01 3 роки тому

      I have old photos of Marines in Deseet Storm with maglites hose clamped to their M16s

  • @kawasakifreak77
    @kawasakifreak77 Рік тому

    This makes me so thankful for modern lights.

  • @tenchraven
    @tenchraven 3 роки тому

    And this is why I preach the miracle of the centerline mounted light. I prefer mine over barrel and in front of my buis if there is enough rail- if you can just see the bezel of the light at the bottom of the red dot, this is a very solid backup plan for a dying red dot at close range.
    I remember back in the 90s, several companies made barrel clamping mounts for both full size and even Mini-Mags. That was about the time LED conversions were starting to come on the market, and they were competing with very early Surefire mounts. There was a company that even made replacement lens that had an etched and blackened crosshair pattern. I always felt THAT was a bit excessive since those mounts weren't that adjustable, but I think there was a UK based, or maybe German, company that could be adjusted for elevation and windage and did just that. Super expensive, very finicky, kinda fragile, but I think they put some kind of aiming point on the lens as well.
    And I would be lying to if I tried to claim that more than 25 years ago I didn't inlet a spare M-1 Carbine stock to take a D-cell maglight held on with hose clams. Might have also been some wood working on the handgaurd so they didn't interfere with the iron sights.

  • @ditzydoo4378
    @ditzydoo4378 3 роки тому +1

    The old adage rings true... "Necessity is the Mother of Invention"...

  • @jamesbridges7750
    @jamesbridges7750 3 роки тому

    The "aiming light" has a long history. I remember seeing ads from the 1920/30's. The US issued one in Tunnel Rat kits(top strap of S&W, belt mounted battery). Even up into the early 90's you could get a zeroable crosshair lense for the mini maglight. Laser diodes becoming cheap ended a lot of it, but still see the shooting positions to some extent.

  • @283blood
    @283blood 3 роки тому +1

    Man I can remember using an SD with a dive light, hose clamp, and green tape, and feeling high speed, low drag in the day (yes I'm old and retired). Originals.🙂

    • @therideneverends1697
      @therideneverends1697 3 роки тому

      Yeah its interesting how the ideas came 20 years before the tech did

    • @283blood
      @283blood 3 роки тому

      @@therideneverends1697 Still nothing out there you can't kludge together with green tape.🙂

  • @OReely444
    @OReely444 3 роки тому +3

    9mm is one thing, but getting popped with a Maglite is something you just don’t come back from.

  • @ing2373
    @ing2373 3 роки тому +2

    I love your guys' videos. Always brings a smile on my face when I see a new vid!

  • @coreygolder6503
    @coreygolder6503 3 роки тому

    One thing people forget about the incandescent bulb verse the LED. Is the ability to penetrate dust/smoke/debris particle in the air. I find a simple halogen doesn’t reflect so much as a brighter, whiter LED does. That to me would be a big advantage too. Of course you’re trading off a lot of things too though.

  • @StrangerOman
    @StrangerOman 3 роки тому

    Oh yeah, this is a nice appetizer before comprehensive episode on mounted lights. Hype.

  • @CheshireTomcat68
    @CheshireTomcat68 3 роки тому +5

    I have a Cree LED bulb in my 4 D cell Maglight. It's a beast and the duracells last forever. (TTS-3WCREE)

    • @michaelporzio7384
      @michaelporzio7384 3 роки тому

      Thanks for the info! Got an early 1990s 3 D cell Maglite/impact weapon 😊 to bring into the modern age

    • @CheshireTomcat68
      @CheshireTomcat68 3 роки тому +1

      @@michaelporzio7384 the info came from a Techmoan youtube video, all credit to him!

    • @michaelporzio7384
      @michaelporzio7384 3 роки тому +1

      @@CheshireTomcat68 I will check out the video. Just installed the bulb (took a day to arrive from Amazon) My Maglight lives! Thanks again.

  • @Excalibur01
    @Excalibur01 3 роки тому +1

    The MP5 with the surefire handguard light is the definitive MP5 variant.

  • @niceguy91320
    @niceguy91320 3 роки тому

    The Princess Gate action was the best HK commercial ever!

  • @rafschar
    @rafschar 3 роки тому +2

    Check out the BBC documentary "SAS Survival Secrets" and the episode "Guardians Against Terror." SAS veterans ran through their CQB kit/techniques and explain the use of MP5s and lights in great detail

  • @madaxe606
    @madaxe606 3 роки тому

    Pretty amazing that when Larry Vickers went into Modelo Prison nine years later was likewise using a big, chonking D-cell flashlight hose-clamped to his weapon. You'd think that after the SAS raid industry would have been on-the-spot with a better mousetrap.
    Awesome video! I like Henry's historical breakdowns even more than the shooting exhibitions.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 роки тому

      Not a lot you could do in the 1980s to get a brighter light but put more D-cells behind it.
      CREE LEDs weren't invented till the 2000s.

    • @madaxe606
      @madaxe606 3 роки тому

      @@ScottKenny1978 I get that, I was thinking more along the lines of an OEM mount for affixing whatever lights they had, as opposed to ad-hoc solutions like hose clamps and ranger bands.

  • @tengu190
    @tengu190 3 роки тому

    Updated variant has the Steiner forend with lowered flashlight for suppressor use and their cocking handle laser. This is followed by adding the 4x scope, Occluder, and then the red dot.

  • @chrisjones2312
    @chrisjones2312 3 роки тому

    I got given one of these Maglites from the armoury when i left back in 08. Doesn't work anymore which is a shame but its nice to have the history.

  • @cherrypoptart2001
    @cherrypoptart2001 3 роки тому +1

    Delta force made me fall in love with this and the CAR15

  • @davidoftheforest
    @davidoftheforest 3 роки тому

    in McNabs book he says they shot cans off eachothers shoulders during CQB training using live ammunition in room clearance drills with the weapon light technique

  • @WardenWolf
    @WardenWolf 3 роки тому

    I always preferred the 3-C Maglite for walking through the woods when I was younger. I found it to be better balanced and it dropped perfectly into a the front hip pocket of a pair of cargo pants or BDUs. It's more powerful than a 2-D but lighter than a 3-D, and the longer handle gives you just about the perfect leverage should you need to use it as a club.

  • @Cdodders27
    @Cdodders27 3 роки тому +1

    Ooooh! I had hoped you would do this one, after the MP5 SAS video!

  • @jkellyid
    @jkellyid 3 роки тому

    Great stuff. You guys never let it get boring

  • @TheGrenadier97
    @TheGrenadier97 3 роки тому

    PURE. GOLD.

  • @shanek6582
    @shanek6582 3 роки тому

    My first night vision device was a huge heavy AN/PVS-2 and I had it on a Colt AR15 A2 HBAR, I had one of those long heavy maglites with an IR filter that balanced on the protective wings of the front sight and the back of the maglite set on the ELCAN base that the PVS-2 was mounted on. I also used those hose clamps to hold the light on. It was ridiculous but for a 20 year old in the early 90s I thought it was awesome lol. I bet it weighed more that 20 pounds.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  3 роки тому +2

      Yeah I mean when nobody else has night vision or a weapon mounted light, it's a huge advantage, despite the weight.

  • @grunthostheflatulent9649
    @grunthostheflatulent9649 3 роки тому +2

    Necessity is the mother of invention.

  • @markfergerson2145
    @markfergerson2145 3 роки тому

    Nice to be reminded that as "mature" as firearms technology is, there's still room for effective evolution and we're watching it happen.

  • @gohst101pubg8
    @gohst101pubg8 Рік тому

    I like old school flashlight attachment it looks badass more than tactical grip flashlight 👍

  • @DGShackleford
    @DGShackleford 3 роки тому

    Regarding the Kel-Lite/Streamlight vs Maglite argument- I’ve got a decent collection of old cop lights and can say from the pictures of the actual operation, most of not all of the lights have a Streamlight shaped head. Also, Maglite had only been around for less than a year when Nimrod happened, and really didn’t get their notoriety until well into the 1980s when Don Keller of Kel-Lite fame joined the firm and brought his technical and marketing skills. Streamlight had already been a well-established company, having bought Kel-Lite a few years prior and immediately pioneering rechargeable duty lights, something Kel-Lite wanted to do but didn’t have the resources to fully implement.
    Even by today’s standards, an incandescent Streamlight SL-20 is relatively good- probably a bit more than 100 lumens on a fresh charge. The beam has good throw, with a concentrated hot spot and sufficient spill. Definitely can be used as an aiming device.
    In addition, a common mod amongst LEOs even back then was to swap the bulb/reflector module from the SL-35 (5D sized beating stick flashlight) into an SL-20 for significantly increased output but lower run time. If local LEOs were doing this, the SAS must have experimented too.
    Finally, there is at least one surviving example of a dedicated SL-20 claw mount for the MP5. It interfaces with the recharging port of the SL-20 to allow the use of a handguard-mounted pressure switch for easier activation. No idea when that came out, or if it was around in time for Nimrod. It was made by none other than Laser Products, aka today’s Surefire.

  • @TacticalBunnyCA
    @TacticalBunnyCA 3 роки тому

    When I first looked at the thumbnail I thought this was the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen but then noticed the historical reference to the SAS guys with the same exact set up...
    You just kind of have to love that era of massive devices attached to weapons that completely negates the sights like Arnold’s 45 with a laser mounted to it in The Terminator, like he really needed the laser for the t foot range he used it at... Clearly the SAS maglite makes much more sense considering the time and technology available in the time.

  • @CHenry1951
    @CHenry1951 3 роки тому

    Thanks, pretty cool .... I've owned mag flashlights for years, never attached one to
    a weapon....LOL, Just a little ingenuity at work !!

  • @juanmangasmochas1533
    @juanmangasmochas1533 3 роки тому +1

    “The Final Option,” is another good movie covering the weapons of the era, used by the SAS.

  • @alecklassen2737
    @alecklassen2737 3 роки тому +1

    Don’t think we missed your Die Hard 2 tape.

  • @rodiculous9464
    @rodiculous9464 3 роки тому

    I love these retro operator kits

  • @phosistkar6425
    @phosistkar6425 3 роки тому

    it's crazy how much better flashlights have gotten since then. A modern weapon light is so much brighter, more compact and lighter than those chunky D cell lights.

  • @rbrant65
    @rbrant65 10 місяців тому

    Excellent, as usual.

  • @clivethomas4920
    @clivethomas4920 3 роки тому

    Excellent video, (as always). Torches....sorry, flashlights, on firearms? in 1980?. Who'd 'thunk' of that! Watched the assault, live on TV, as a fifteen Year old. the BBC interrupted a John Wayne movie,..... if I remember correctly. I was very angry, until ' Men in Black' started crawling over balconies and things started blowing up.
    Keep up the great work.

  • @elsasso
    @elsasso 3 роки тому

    you can use the light also as a blinding factor to the target...

  • @pledgegamer
    @pledgegamer 3 роки тому

    I love the tape on the mags.

  • @VicFromFallout
    @VicFromFallout 3 роки тому +9

    hmm Die hard 2 red and blue duct tap on magazines is coincidence? :D

    • @kylefarris8866
      @kylefarris8866 3 роки тому

      Red means dead, blue means blanks.

    • @VicFromFallout
      @VicFromFallout 3 роки тому +2

      @@kylefarris8866 thanks Captain Obvious

    • @kylefarris8866
      @kylefarris8866 3 роки тому +1

      @@VicFromFallout stay in the Fallout bunker Vic.

    • @kylefarris8866
      @kylefarris8866 3 роки тому

      @Enwurd Dindunuffin you may call me a scrub, but that is because I am not too familiar with the Fallout franchise. I enjoy games like: GTA IV, Red Dead Redemption, Red Dead Redemption 2, Max Payne 3, Metro 2033, Metro: Last Light, Metro: Exodus, Cyberpunk 2077, This is the Police, This is the Police 2, Skyrim, LA Noire, The Last of Us, Bully, Manhunt, GTA: San Andreas, Fallout 4, Papers Please, Uncharted 4: A Thief's End, Hell Let Loose, Rising Storm 2: Vietnam, Squad, Escape From Tarkov, Ready Or Not, Post Scriptum, and Insurgency: Sandstorm.

  • @brig.badger2896
    @brig.badger2896 3 роки тому

    Great stuff, at first I thought it was a strange setup but it’s not stupid if it works.

  • @armorer94
    @armorer94 3 роки тому

    I wish they had modern light technology when I started in law enforcement over 30 years ago. Those things got heavy on 8+ hour shifts.

  • @floivanus
    @floivanus 7 місяців тому

    I’m used to seeing D-cell flashlights used as muzzle devices not weapon lights

  • @meansartin
    @meansartin 3 роки тому

    Love the Die Hard 2 reference with the red and blue mags

  • @afinoxi
    @afinoxi 3 роки тому +4

    Man I wish I could get an MP5

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 роки тому

      If it's a dollars problem, look up PTR, they cost about half as much as the HK.
      If it's a not-legal-here problem, you're welcome to move to the US!

  • @jacobel2684
    @jacobel2684 3 роки тому +1

    Peq 15 concept grandfather. Seems legit.

  • @TylerLL2112
    @TylerLL2112 3 роки тому +1

    That’s a lit piece of kit.

  • @testname4464
    @testname4464 3 роки тому

    1:50 I like how even in the firearms world duct taping a flashlight to a gun is still considered a "proof of concept" lmao

  • @KarltheKrazyone
    @KarltheKrazyone 3 роки тому

    If you only really know LED lights, you owe it to yourself to get a good incandescent light (like a mag) and compare it in haze/smoke to a comparable output LED. Sure LED's have come a long way with reflectors and lenses, but there are fundamentals that cannot really be overcome. The only LED I know that moderately cuts haze is Pelican Recoil design lights. The latest and greatest are getting better, but again, its worth understanding if just for knowing what sort of force multiplier this was, which is hard to really grasp if you are used to single AAA lights having the same output as a 2D mag. It was more than just light, it was every advantage for target ID, and not taking any risks that they didn't need to.

  • @mikethomas5412
    @mikethomas5412 3 роки тому

    Informative video. Thanks.

  • @rodiculous9464
    @rodiculous9464 3 роки тому

    Makes me think a rotating bezel should come standard on all weapon lights! That is a neat trick. It works in tarkov too but I figured that was just video game shenanigans

  • @SolidMikeP
    @SolidMikeP 3 роки тому +3

    CRAZY how long it took to get lights on firearms.

    • @tommyc5740
      @tommyc5740 3 роки тому +1

      Not really. Have you looked at any of the old flashlights? Most where as big or bigger then a Maglite and below 100 lumens.

    • @immikeurnot
      @immikeurnot 3 роки тому

      @@tommyc5740 And not as well focused.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 роки тому

      @@tommyc5740 even the surefire 6p I bought in 2001 or early 02 was only 60 lumens. Took a long time to break 100 lumens, and now we're up to 1000 lumens in a light the size of that 6p (Fenex PD35)

  • @TeamGreenBurrito
    @TeamGreenBurrito 3 роки тому +1

    By today’s standards, this would count as a cursed image and get you roasted for several days on /k/. We’ve come a long way from this to the 60,000 candela REIN.

  • @biffskeet762
    @biffskeet762 3 роки тому

    Awesome video guys. Keep up the great content!

  • @1.forestrunner
    @1.forestrunner 3 роки тому +1

    We come a long way...

  • @maskedhobo
    @maskedhobo 3 роки тому

    Excellent work my dudes.

  • @Pavia1525
    @Pavia1525 Місяць тому

    Maglite damage increases when you attach LAPD to it.

  • @paulm3931
    @paulm3931 3 роки тому

    Had the opportunity to play with an MP5 when I was in the Army overseas. It was definitely fun, but as they state in these videos, this weapon system requires a LOT of training and we just never had the time. I'd own one as a curiosity but currently couldn't afford to shoot it enough to become adept at the platform. It's very different from nearly anything the average joe has fired.

  • @DeezCheez69
    @DeezCheez69 3 роки тому

    Try to take a rimfire caliber out to 300 yards. I feel like that would be one of the hardest videos you could do and one of the most interesting.

  • @ClodiusP
    @ClodiusP 3 роки тому

    I was on the cusp of turning 16 when this happened. I'd never heard of the SAS prior to this event.

  • @urijbondar8790
    @urijbondar8790 3 роки тому +1

    So, it's just bigger and better "laser scope"? Brits, as always, best in CQB. Thanks for your researchs