DRS BERRY AND CYWES DISCUSS BRAND NEW INSIGHTS INTO YOUR KETO JOURNEY: KETO VS PROPER HUMAN DIET
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- Drs Berry and Carbaddictiondoc discuss BRAND NEW INSIGHTS into your KETO JOURNEY: UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE AND WHAT TO CHANGE
Are you a keto/carnivore veteran? Have you done great but are unsure of where you stand now? This AMAZINGLY INSIGHTFUL VIDEO reveals new insIghts into keto evolution. WE ANALYZE BLOODWORK TO DETERMINE HOW TO ADVANCE TO A PROPER HUMAN DIET FOR LIFE INCLUDING TYPE 1 DIABETES
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I was wondering when you two would get together, glad to see. It's insane to me how people will let a so called doctor butcher their bodies. About ten years ago I went to the emergency room because I had a racing heart rate. I was admitted ASAP and the doctor came in and told me the left ventricle on my heart wasn't pumping blood and I needed emergency surgery. When I asked why and what would cause that he told me he didn't know. He left and another doctor came in and tried to sell me a bunch of medical BS and I told him you're NOT cutting on me. A few minutes later a nurse came in and started telling me about her heart attack surgery and how well her surgery went and how I had nothing to be afraid of. She was doing a bunch of things in my room that I don't remember now. When I asked her what she was doing she told me she was preparing me for surgery. My jaw dropped. I told her I NEVER consented to surgery. She looked shocked and went and got another doctor. He told me my heart was fine. When I asked why did the other two doctors tell me I needed "emergency heart surgery" he told me no one told me that. When I insisted they did he had the nerve to ask me if I was ever treated for mental illness. Then he insisted it would be a good idea if I stayed overnight for observation just to be safe, after telling me nothing was wrong and maybe I was crazy. Because I had minor kids at the time I stayed overnight against my better judgement. Turns out my insurance pays 100% for any surgery or hospital stay. To this day I know their motivation was money. I know if I hadn't been fully insured they wouldn't have insisted I stay overnight to the tune of over $10,000 for less than a 24 hour stay. Btw I had ZERO symptoms of a heart attack except age which was 51 at the time. Two years ago just before covid I joined a high impact Zumba call filled with 20 and 30 something year old ladies who couldn't keep up with me. After class the instructor thanked me for joining the class and bringing such high energy to her dragging class. Because I've always been fit, never over weight I smelled a rat. I'm not saying I couldn't have had a heart attack but it was going to take a LOT more proof than their words. Turns out I was having a reaction from too much thyroid medication. Now when a doctor tell me something I take it with 20 buckets of salt and research the heck out of it before I consider their recommendation.🤔
Oh my for the sweet Love of God thank you for your story this is why I keep saying to myself it’s better not to have great insurance to your name because it seems to me that every time you have great insurance and you go to the doctor they want to do all kinds of tests they want to do all kinds of surgeries A similar thing happened to me they kept me overnight and by the time I got out of there it was over $10,000 shame on them there was nothing wrong with me except I was having a reaction because I had a thyroid problem that was never detected before by my regular doctor some of those doctors are so ignorant they don’t do nothing for you except to charge the insurance if you have a good insurance if you don’t they just don’t care wow the insurance companies need to be more strict with these doctors.
Holy f*** thanks for sharing your very scary story, you must be in the US I'm thinking.....$10,000 for an overnight stay! That is absolutely insane. I have just had a self-funded Inguinal hernia operation here in Australia. I don't have private insurance because the government run Medicare here always seemed to work OK (even though it is definitely underfunded) but I would have to have waited longer and needed to go overseas so I bit the bullet and paid for it myself. Total cost was around AUD7000 and that included an overnight stay in the hospital just to be sure (I could have survived without it) and the cost of that overnight in the hospital included in the $7000 was $1300
@@vidviewer100 that’s mad I just had the same operation in Japan but decided to walk home. It cost ¥24,000 that’s about $240 AUSD
frightening. thank you for helping others thru your experience!
my son’s back surgery was pushed .. similar circumstances.. so far no surgery consent.. drs and hospitals earn $ regardless of patient results
Thanks for this great information. You have taught all of us not to rush into anything regarding medical care.
I wish Dr. Berry had given Dr. Cywes a chance to speak 😀
Ive never seen anyone keep Dr Berry so quiet for so long LOL.
I wish dr berry had been allowed more of an opportunity to talk
Lol
I started keto a yr and a half ago and have lost 40 lb. I’m a 68 yr old female. Without meaning to, while watching this video it occurred to me, I slowly transitioned into more carnivore. My taste and desire for veg and fruit is almost non existent. I find I eat more meat, fish, than anything without even realizing it until some one asked me what I eat in a day as they wanted to know how I lost the weight! I do still eat Swiss cheese as it’s a favorite of mine. Triglycerides dropped almost 200 pts to 76, A1C perfect, HDL 59, LDL 180 or so. Thanks for all you share.
I'm a practicing anesthesiologist from the Philippines for 23 trs and you guys are the best stoic doctors I've come to met by watching. Keep up the good work brothers
Following the proper human diet for a while and feeling so good. I think Carbohydrates and sugar are substrates for cancer cells formation. No more for me . I also agree that for long term nutrition . No need to exaggerate on fattening the food portions. Just stay away from sugar and carbs. My own life experience .
Amen!
@@nancyk7874 and hallelujah! :)
@@vidviewer100 yes!!!
What about veggies? Fruits? Do you eat them?
@@shar7508 Yes but not every day and not much . Keto friendly vegetables and berries only . Raspberry and strawberry with heavy cream are so good. Cherries are out now so I eat some without going nuts. Good luck..
I adore listening to these two discuss the details. I feel like I've just attended a master's study class in the proper human diet 💜
so true was just thinking the same :)
3 1/2 minutes in and I have only heard one so far. CW is not a rude person but he's unloading at random at the opening - the convo needs a facilitator at this point
2 of my favorite people!
As an authoritarian/carnivore, I've learned that my compulsion to be so strict is my addiction! Great info!
I have come to realize this about myself also. I have eating disorders and now I see I've become obsessive about keto and weight loss as well now. I just want to stop having the damn OCD about food, period!
@@groovy-momma418 It's not your fault!!. we've been programmed to believe certain foods are "bad" and others will "cure you". That we need to be thin to be healthy. That we need to never eat sugar (aka carbs) because we are addicts, ,that we need to fast, and on, and on... Think of food as a way to nourish your body. Try a more balanced approach. You may be surprised how well you feel.
@@lindabell6954 Yes I already have but those things don't go away. They will always be a part of me. I lost all the weight 160 pounds and I've been eating this way for 3 years now. It's easy to replace one habit with another.
This was a great talk. I'm so happy, you're actually practicing medicine. We're not a "knee-jerk" crowd and appreciate you.
Thanks guys for being so honest about possible shortcomings in long term LCHF diets and suggesting it’s not wise to put the Pancreas out of service to the extent of no longer processing sugar. Guess this makes sense when you have to understand the Pancreas is there for a reason. The more you know about something, the less you realize you know about it.
First time I’ve ever heard Ken Berry not get a word in edgewise lol. Fascinating nonetheless …
Love both of your content. I Think Dr Cywes answered my question of why I am gaining weight 2 months into carnivore. I was 7 months of Keto IF and some prolonged fasting just b4 that. I'm eating over 3 pounds of steak daily for the last 2 months. You can get too much of a good thing. If I eat til I'm stuffed I will over eat every time. I think my full signals are broken after decades of carb abuse and insulin resistance. I'm going to cut my portions down and add fasting back into the mix. I'm 50 hours into a fast right now
I love you so much, Dr. Cywes! In fact, I credit you and Dr. Berry with the great strides in my physical and also mental health! However, this didn’t sound like a “discussion” but more like a one-sided lecture.
Very obvious. Made it hard to listen to.
Thank you both so much for all that you do. Especially with your honesty about what may or may not work for everyone. You are both truly incredible doctors. Your patients come before all else. I wish all doctors would follow your lead.
Great video !!!! I’m a or was 100% a ketovore. I was eating only fatty meat. For 2 years. I felt great! However, I noticed my Hba1c creeping up. Also, my fasting blood sugars. From around 80 to 100 in the morning… I added blue, black , rass, and strawberries to my diet for dinner. It’s made a huge difference. In fast for 16 hours. For lunch I eat a pure fatty carnivore meal for lunch. Go to the gym with a ketone level at around 1.0-1.5. That’s when I’m at my best for a workout. For dinner I’ve been eating leaner meat plus the addition of Low glycemic index fruits. That has been the ticket for me!!!! Fasting blood sugars trending down. My last hemoglobin A-1 C was 4.9. The thing Is right around lunch I’m back in ketosis. knock myself out before bedtime with the fruit. But it’s so easy to get back into ketosis for me. Metabolic flexibility is the key. The natural carbs helps me sleep as well. I believe you were discussing this guy‘s blood sugar the first patient. that’s also physiologic insulin resistance. I don’t know if that’s bad or not. I don’t think we know that yet. However, being metabolically flexible just makes more sense.
Quick question when you went ketovore was your sleep effected until you added berries?
@@angelawilliamson6765Sleep has many variables.
Very thoughtful comments. You have just now helped many to be given the freedom to have some berries or nuts.
Stop being a slave to your food and enjoy your life.
I am so glad you addressed this issue.
I am insulin resistant and have followed a low carb, keto diet off on one for some time.
A year ago, I stuck to Keto 100% and fixes my metabolic rate.
I then went to carnivore and a nutritionist suggested I add fat to everything to lower protein.
My health went backward
Weight gain, Cholesterol up
Fatty Liver, and high cortisol levels.
I have lowered my fat intake, added some veg to diet, fast in the morning, walk and BINGO
WEIGHT is down.
Firstly, I'm enjoying these collaboration videos between you two.
Now, I wonder how much pressure the first Dr you spoke about is under to cover his @ss for legal reasons?
I started keto in September of 2020 and went mostly carnivore around the beginning of 2021. Some time later I added intermittent fasting, but my energy level was so high that I wound up breaking a couple ribs while pressure washing the metal roof on my house. While at my Dr's clinin(kaiser) I mentioned I was doing keto and was concerned about cholesterol. His first response was, no problem, we'll check your numbers. His second response was " carbs are terrible " and then when I told him about the fasting, I couldn't shut him up! It was like I had a whole new relationship with my Dr. This year I'm cutting out cheese and no longer adding fat to my food. I'll still fry eggs in butter, but for the most part I'm just eating the meat and eggs and fish.
I’m so excited for my appointment with Dr Cywes. Someone who actually knows bloodwork!!
So how was it (10 months later) lol
Dr. Cywes, you are wonderfully brilliant and very dedicated to the well-being of human kind. So excited to meet with you in the upcoming months as a patient. You are the only doctor that really digs into the pt's protocol individually from all others. You are one of a kind. Thank you very much!!!!!
The high A1C keto patient is like me. Bet he has a lot of morning gluconeogenesis. Dr Ali (my doc) is thinking an insulin resistant person can have trouble with too much dietary fat. It winds up in the liver because chylomicrons dont empty. He has a great video on this. Sounds like Dr C and Dr B are thinking the same thing. They should all get together. I tried reducing fat with PSMF with great results.
I need to find this video. Thanks.
Sooo grateful for the both of you!!!!
Long story short. 46y/o F, peri menopausal, DX gestational dm 10 years ago, type 2, thereafter despite BMI being in normal range all my life. 5 years since start of keto. Healed type 2 within months! Developed iron deficiency replaced low carb veg with red meat (90% carnivore), healed both type 2 and iorn deficiency, regulated abnormal bleeding with diet. However, it has been 13 months (since carnivore) and now my blood work is looking just like Dr. C said! Thanks for giving a good explaination! No one else has even dared give a hypothesis! Maybe I've healed enough it's time for PSMF and small amounts of cyclic whole food carbs!
Yeah! Another N=1experiment to try.
Exactly, a PHD should be based on the goal for an individuals metabolic health and adjusted as needed. The "GOLD" standard most physicians follow is NOT a one size fits all. Thank you both for all the information/education you provide for people to improve their health and longevity!
Processed and packaged “keto foods. Followed by too much fat are the most common problem I have seen in the keto & carnivore community over the past 9 years of doing it. Started off that way myself.
I am glad you are starting to question the high fat therapeutic ketogenic diet because that’s exactly the issue that i see.
It’s an amazing place to start to break addiction but then stops giving us much benefit quickly after that.
Scaling back on fat we eat to take off excess bodyfat both adipose and fat in our organs.
Have helped quite a few people reverse t2d this way.
Wow. I sure wish I lived close enough to be one of your patients. You make so much sense and care so much....thank you. You are restoring my faith in doctors.
Love the open-minded discussion here. That is so missing in much of today's world. Thank you both.
Maybe one of the best videos i've watched. I feel it comes at the right time for me because i've been carnivore for a year now, and i've been thinking of adding a few low carb veg/fruit back into my way of eating - if only every so often (as in 1x a day or every other day) I like Carnivore very very much. My T2 Diabetes is gone, high blood pressure gone and the list goes on of all of the maladies that are now gone. However, I am not close minded and enjoy learning about ways to keep tweaking things for my way of eating. Thank you both so very much for this information.
SUPER EXCELLENT CONVERSATION. although, the add vs southern slow talk was hard to work through🤣
I want more of this!!!! I've experienced so much goodness (100lbs) and educating (hopefully, and against confrontation that carbs are necessary) I'm sharing this with so many I absolutely need more of this.
This video is incredibly interesting. In the wild, Caucasian hunter gatherers in the northern hemisphere would have likely eaten wild berries in the fall and used insulin to fatten up for winter. Perhaps this seasonal insulin response is healthier.
Dr.s what a great video! I have said this to the women I serve that "keto is a therapy". Keto is a therapy that I educate and support pregnant women through even postpartum. Some women can handle the whole food approach and still be lower carb without any issues. Some people can handle a ketogenic lifestyle too. It's fascinating what differences there are and trying to discover that one key difference or multiple key difference is interesting to say the least. All in all the problem isn't going to be in will 1 cup of blueberries everyday be detrimental to my health but going in and out of a keto cycle a few times a year to clean for microphage. If you are obese getting on keto for a food addiction therapy is necessary and effective. Atkins knew it. Thanks for the great content been watching for years.
Blows my mind with every time i hear a podcast with these incredible humans!!! Thanks for always questioning the science!!!
Great chat between to two doctors that I respect!
Thank you so much for your shout out to Dr. Richard K. Bernstein. He is the one who first instigated my switch to Low carb eating going on 6 years ago, back when I was first diagnosed with LADA. He was a "voice crying in the wilderness" basically alone in his advocacy 40 odd years ago. He doesn't quite get the acknowledgement he deserves IMHO.
What a wonderful video this is, intriguing and exciting. I follow both Dr. Cywes and Dr. Berry, I thank you so much and am so grateful to both of you doctors for your candid research and advocacy as you observe, compile evidence for, and share what you learn about the Proper Human Diet.
I’ve been waiting for this video. Thank you Dr. Cywes and Dr. Berry 🙏
This video is what I’ve been waiting for. It’s answering Keto questions I’ve had for a long time
Check out Dr. Eric Westman too, if you don't already. I no longer add fat I just don't avoid it. We don't need all the extra fats, it can actually stall weightloss and made a difference for me.
I had a fabulous Dr in Fl and she had me get blood work and it turned out to be39 vials! All she said was “go on gluten free”… your bloodwork is fine! I was 79 then and 82 now. Still no meds! I’m truly blessed! 🙏
Yes, exactly!! There is a NEED for "some" carbs. Yes all things have limits. Been saying this for years. No one size fits all. Dr. Ted follows as do I many bodybuilders and athletes who eat carbs but are very healthy. Same with Dr. Saladino. Same with Dr. Robert Lustig.... Many many of us mix in some whole food carbs with many patients. The key, repeat the KEY is periodization of eating and the matching of the eating phases to the patients present health status / phases and activity levels, sleep, stress, age, race,... I have performed a lot of studies on prisoners held in third world countries, meaning there was not cheating, perfect controlled test, locked in a cell. One example, We know if the person is prediabetic (not type 1 of course) and obese at 30+ % body fat a cupcake diet will improve their health markers but as soon as the person hits about 18% body fat or less and low to no activity, the cupcake diet will destroy health. Same holds true as there are math model and examples for when carnivore, keto, vegan, vegetarian, balance.. can have deleterious effects to health...diet has to be matched to the person and matched to health status, activity levels....and lastly we have to treat the person. We all have those patients who refuse to eat meat / eggs.... Awesome conversation!!! Best conversation on opening up the parameters and taking in the human condition.
Thank you. You have answered very important questions between 15 to 18 minutes in your talking about the insulin activities
You two are great! I am so tired of doctors with closed minds in looking at bloodwork. Interesting that maybe start with high fat, moderate protein, low carb, but maybe later on needing to lower fat somewhat.
Two great doctors in conversation on a matter that is so important to us all. Thank you both.
This is an excellent discussion on why Proper Human Diet is the correct term. Metabolic health at the individual level should be determined through curiosity rather than dogma. The elimination process is so important to discover your metabolic “sweet point” (pun intended) for the individual. We see the spectrum publicly with Lion diet (M.P. And her autoimmune symptoms) and ketogenic/ketovore (N.B.) as a young mother. As a retired physician, I really appreciate this debate. Day 54 on keto and day 40 on Carnivore for me. Still a lot to learn on my personal journey. I really appreciate the years of experience available through these veterans.
Like my Mom always said, the best solution is usually somewhere in the middle.
I was always taught that when something happens, look at the last thing that changed. That will usually point you in the right direction.
My two favorite helpers in my ketovore journey thank you so much.
MY TWO FAVORITE DOCS - I love listening to these two discuss the details! - This is why we trust them implicitly!
I’ve cut back on fat. As a friend told me years ago, “if you’re overweight, you should be burning body fat.” I’m still overweight. I don’t always eat all the fat on my fatty beef, I no longer put cream in my coffee or butter on my steak, and I now rarely drink hot chocolate the way I used to, which meant an ounce of bitter chocolate and some heavy cream and sucralose…
I’m glad that this is back up. Originally it was part of a much longer conversation that’s been removed but has now been reposted in chunks.
This was very interesting and informative. By far my two favorite doctors. Thank you !
Eliminate all carbs and sugar is the ultimate CURE for disease and longevity. I keep the carbs to only vege and fill up on fatty meats. Nutrition is designed to fuel our bodies not to make us sugar addicts 😁😃☺️💞
I wish you would move to the uk and became my doctor. Because I really believe you care deeply ❤
This is sooooo interesting !
I follow so long those beautiful enthusiastic doctors who look much much further than what they learnt in high school/Universaty.
I am doing keto and fasting for a while, I am buying grassfed beef, taking Magnesium Citrate, K2 D3, Omega3.
To make it as short as possible... my question :
I went to my doctor for my bloodwork because I want to know if I am doing good and not waisting my time and life, and as dr. Cywes states, I believe she does not read it correctly and totally.
She said : everything is good, no diabetes, no high sugar (my mother is diabetes), the good cholesterol (HDL ?) is good, I only have to keep an eye on my bad cholesterol which is a bit to high. I was so flabbergasted. Because I thought this was really bad.
And she did not mention anything at all about insuline sensitive or resistance, minerals, vitamins, electrolites. I wanted a complete info, even when I asked especially for it, she does not provide, she even reacts strange about all my questions. I am very disappointed, in health care for sure. F.e. my mother keeps injecting insuline, it is only getting worse. But she does not want to hear about fasting or eating healthy etc... but that's another story.
But to come back to me, now I learn from dr. Cywes that high LDL is a good/normal thing when you are insuline sensitive, which I "assume" I am.
I which I knew a good honest doctor here in Belgium who takes care of the bloodwork seriously and completely...😢
Thank you all for your extremely good work and enthusiasm, it is so appreciated !!!
I wish all doctors put this much investigative thought into their patients. 👍
I have a suggestion. Chris Masterjohn says that fatty liver is actually a choline deficiency, and that the more fat you eat the more choline you need. Choline is plentiful in egg yolks and liver. Could the guy with the good bloodwork be eating more liver & egg yolk?
Patient One. Pleased to hear this commentary. Since finding out I was on the 1st rung of pre-diabetes I went from being careful with carbs to pretty much eliminating them, making occasional exceptions for blueberries and a bun on Saturdays at my mothers just to keep her quiet. In the 1st six months my A1C score climbed to the next level - disappointing & disempowering. I have practiced time restricted feeding for some years and other indications suggest that I am insulin sensitive. Unfortunately the UK public health system will not test insulin and I can't find a private practice to check this either, so stuffmbling in the dark
At 32:08, you said, "If you don't look, you're not going to see." You do a lot of lab testing. Thank you! My GP's response to high Cholesterol is multiple prescriptions.
I like Dr Westmans approach; 20 or less carbs a day, eat meat/protein (that includes whatever fat comes with it) until full and add no more than 6 tablespoons of oil/fat per day. He says this will work for everyone. I wonder where this fits into high/low fat category? I know this is less fat than I was eating on my past standard American diet!
33 weeks into my new lifestyle, and I am now at 12% body fat. To finish off the last 2 and get to 10% body fat, I am now increasing protein while reducing fat, which not only helps to mobilize that 2% body fat, but also delivers the results from my workouts, 99% of which are weight lifting. I initially began it as PSMF, but have now settled more on ketovore, where the carnivore side is slowly becoming more dominant.
Great discussion, with the world's best two, as always!
What is psmf
@@Akmal_Al-Bhatti Protein Sparing Modified Fast.
Thank you......hard for us to make positive changes in our lifestyle while faced with sceptical drs and health providers from frowning on our progress.
Don't go to those doctors.
The whole time Dr. Berry was allowed to say 2 words!
Thank you for this conversation!! Excellent information.
Thank you for sharing these thoughts, I'm learning and figuring out where i belong in the spectrum and like that there is spectrum. I tried higher fat and did gain but did not lose, now i have added small amount of carb pulling away from carnivore, and now i actually dropped a 1 lb after 12 mos of trying 😊 Dr. Berry I'm ketovore now eggs salsa cheese--breakfast, yogurt (sugar free greek0 and fish, meat or chicken all before 6pm
I appreciate getting real life examples, so this is a good video. But doctor Cywes really needs to get some kind of chart or comparison table to present all the test results, because rattling off so many numbers verbally is impossible for me to follow the thread. I am just learning. Is it possible to maybe use the same interview but cut in some tables or charts while Dr Cywes is talking? It would make this video hugely more understandable.
Absolutely fscinating discussion. Thank you, Doctors!!
I appreciate you both truly following the science and not trying to gloss over things to make the data always point in your favor...there definitely are still mysteries to figure out and I've never seen anything in life where every piece fits neatly into all one box. Thank you for your hard work and remaining open minded.
Wow, this is interesting. I've had full success in reversing metabolic syndrome with a Low Carb High Fat lifestyle with intermittent fasting. I'm near carnivore but when I eat out at my local Turkish restaurant I "treat" myself to Olives and order a selection of meat dishes from the starter menu which come with a salad garnish. However I have two weaknesses. Being a gregarious Brit I'm found in the pub at weekends drinking beer by the pint. This leads on to my second weakness - Crisps (potato chips). I wonder if these two perceived "weaknesses" are in fact an accidental "strength". A pint of the British lager Carling contains 8g of carbs per pint. A 25g packet of Crisps contains about 13g of carbs. So I might consume an unnecessary 150g of carbs over the course of a weekend. This obviously causes an insulin spike and keeps the pancreas awake. I then do a 36 hour fast between Sunday evening and Tuesday morning. Seems to work for me as I've lost 25% of my body weight, wiped out my triglycerides and reversed type 2 diabetes. Cheers everybody 🍻🍻🤣🤣
I would be inclined to guess that after our body regulates from eating keto or carnivore and we learn to better obey the things our body tells us that we should eat what we think we need. Our ancestors did not have access to all these tests and yet they knew how to eat. I am doubtful I can ever have a carb again without going off into addiction, but I'm glad for you people who may be able at some point to add some carbs back into your life. Interesting discussion. Thank you both.
Thank you gentlemen, for continuing to question what you know, and sharing what you find with us. I have so much respect for people who look to correct themselves and improve
Great discussion, thank you for the information, especially the “bell curve” concept that so many choose to ignore.
Good point on fat in foods..in uk we get good full fat milk and proper double cream that has no thicker in. Our meat is pretty much all grass fed.
2 years on keto. 65 pounds lost. I'd like to lose another 15. Went to OMAD.
So many of us are dealing with doctors who want to put us on intravenous statins and low fat diets. I used to not be able to twist off a cap from a water bottle, or climb stairs. I'm off of ALL MY MEDS AND FEEL GREAT. The only thing I'm not off of is eylea shots for macular degeneration although my sight is better. My eye doc says it's because of the shots. I'm not sure. I wish you would find an eye doctor to talk to about keto.
My vision gets noticeably crisper when I fast, I've reproduced the experiment over and over
@@mattsautorepair484 Thanks. I think that too. I have my shot tomorrow, and I've been fasting --will be 48 hours by 9:00 AM Let's see what that does for my eye chart. I'll let you know.
Usually 4-6 months of keto the microbiome has changed. I think its fair to say that about 4 months it's good to cycle back to a bit of carb (whole food) then cycle back to ketosis so that element of going insulin resistant from low carb doesn't happen. 4 months back on and 4 months off. With my pregnant women I suggest they have at least a couple weeks off (not full blown eat junk) That's a timing hypothesis like Dr. Cywes was suggesting.
You both are amazing Dr's 👏. I love learning from both of you.
distribution and bell curve are good starting points for defining/exploring spectrum of 'proper' human diet...we are thus still intuitive with regards to ratio & proportion or 'balance'. Salute to Drs Berry/Cywes
I eat low carb and fast 18 hours most days. But I don't chase ketones or obsess about getting some carbohydrates occasionally. The proper human diet stuff sounds very interesting. But I would definitely think carefully about distinct dietary adaptations in different human populations, inuits, maasai and (pick a historically agrarian grain based culture) have very distinct genetic adaptations..
I love that these guys are considering this and updating their stance. Good work guys! :)
I'm a bit late to this party, it's been well over a year. This was a fascinating conversation which follows up my viewing of Dr. Cwyes' video on too much protein done about the same time as this one. Anyway, I hear some gears turning in this video but it's interesting to me that I haven't seen much movement from either from then to now. What's new on this front, doctors?
Yes, I’d love to hear more about this too! I think this discussion describes my current situation. While my recent blood work markers are still in the optimal range, fasting blood glucose & A1C are starting to inch upwards towards the line to pre-diabetic. This video explains what’s going on is my pancreas is likely going on hiatus. I’ll start including some of the carbs he mentions into my ultra-low carb diet. Hopefully, I can find more info from them somewhere else on this subject.
@@tarantulady8565 Keep those carbs below 35, which should give your Pancreas something to work on, and maintain an 18 to 23+ hour fasting window. Don't worry about those labs, they'll vary...look for a trend and your doctor's frown. I don't think you're going to have a problem. Search UA-cam for 'carnivore diet insulin resistance' videos.
This section from your long discussion is the most important one I think. Lots of people only focus on their BG and cholesterol but what's happening to the liver and kidneys on some of these low carb diets? Thank you Dr. Cywes for bringing this information forward. Cheers!
We just bought a portion of a whole 100% grass fed cow. It is quite lean. We are eating other meats that are more fatty, but it will be interesting to see if the decrease in over all fat helps with our weight loss and improvement in A1c. I’m also going to try not putting butter in my coffee, and adding other fats. As a former scientist, I’m into experimentation . Love you guys!
Careful. You could easily eat too much protein and insufficient fat. Fat equals energy so watch your energy levels. But you know that...😎
How did you come to the conclussion that you are a carnivore? Just curious!
Love both of you docs, you are CHANGING LIVES!! God bless you both
Some people are starting to talk about carb cycling because of this.
Fascinating discussion between two of my favorite low carb docs. I suspect this topic is becoming the forefront of where the low carb community will be evolving as more information and data become available.
13 minutes into this and it’s a one man show.
I really enjoy when practitioners like you 2 get together to further understanding and making new discoveries. My take on this is that Normally in mid latitudes High carb foods are locally available late summer to early winter. (approx 4 months) & low carbs availability for around 8 months. Those High carbs makes us put on fat just before winter sets in and gives us a warm blanket and a clean and efficient burning fuel to get us through winter and "clean out the kitchen". So following a cyclic pattern of 2:1 low carb:High carb will allow us to be flexible to switch between Fat Burning and carb burning without the body loosing touch with either metabolic state. This for me will keep our fat burning metabolism and our carb burning metabolism active and healthy as long as we only eat REAL FOOD.
Low carb high protein, cal restriction has been magic for me.
Love this talk and topic. It really gets us thinking. Hope to hear more from Dr. Berry.
I'm almost 60 pounds down-(October) ketovore- (now leaning carni) started new years day- I'm more confused than ever😂. I so wish I had a doctor nearby to look at my numbers and help me- but these videos are sooooo valuable!!
Thank you for addressing this Issue, I am a LMHR . I just had blood work done and my doctor wants to put me on a low dose statin, which I refused. I plan on experimenting and adding whole food carbs back into my diet starting approximately eight to ten weeks before my next blood work.
Change doctors or just don't go back. Own your own labs will do testing for you at a reasonable price.
That was such a great discussion and insight into the outcome of a Ketovore diet being measured over a good solid period of time (10 years) using the lab tests for reporting. So for me it just reinforces the pros for LCHF/ PHD which basically rectifies obesity and diabetes and the cons are that without adjusting the macros when these conditions have been rectified may/will not trigger an insulin spike when required. 👍
Love this... however, Dr. Cywes, you can't use the ring light with your spectacles . . . just saying. Take a look/see. :). Love you both and thank you!
Where is the full video? I just can't find it. Thanks
What would we do without you guys. God bless you both.xx
Thank you, Doctors 😊. I am grateful for you both.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO! GOD BLESS
A bevy of GREAT...information..Thanks guys.
Just thinking this through a bit and tending to pick up the points I think. One of the issues of the post 50’s diet is that we do this almost autumnal diet every day. This of course is bad news for all the obvious carb related reasons, but has an advantage to ‘fatten up’ pre winter traditionally pre agricultural times. Then we try a unnaturally supplemented high fat diet, and as we do, get carried away! . Maybe not enough time yet to see the bad effects but probably will be long term but good to wean off the carb based diet. If we just eat the meat as it comes, so in Autumn animals will be fatter, in other times leaner, then eating carnivore as it comes with its seasonal variation is i guess how we are designed to eat
I guess good quality head to toe seasonal animal nutrition with a smattering of accompanying natural tasty leaves, nuts and maybe some roots are the way forward for our nutrition. Thanks and this is what I am picking up here from the excellant discussion. I love the PHDiet. Have noticed too many gin and tonics drive up the trigs so i am on resolving that little personal issue now!!!
When you’re pioneering a new nutritional model, modifications will have to be made. If you don’t, you become like the current orthodoxy. I appreciate your honesty and your willingness to dive deep into your theories and allow the evidence in front of you guide your current evaluations. Keep doing what you’re doing. I do believe that women may need more fat than men. But that’s just feels. No evidence.
This is great the 2 excellent Doctors podcast together. All you need is to get Dr William Davis on this too.
My two favorite docs! Thank you -great information.
I love listening to you guys and follow your advice. I've never felt better. Please do something about the circle light reflecting in your glasses, though. It's very distracting. Thanks for all the help you give others. You're making a difference!
Fantastic interview, full of helpful information. Thank you very much
One must remember that the context is people desperate for a therapeutic intervention, even if that includes most of the USA. I remember a doctor advising me once that bananas covert to sugar rather rapidly... while I was living off of beer, cake, cookies, and ice cream. Got it doc. I hope that if I relearn food, and achieve portion control, that I will be able to add back a portion of yams; at least if the numbers suggest it.
Truthful docs for truth seekers! Love it.
Ir happened to me. I introduced carbs and gained a lot of weight but had better blood work 🤣. I started carnivore moderate fat and reached even better blood work but the weight is very difficult to melt away. Bow I am doing Cole Robinsons snake oil diet ant this helps. My plan is to melt the fat on this protocol and go back to carnivore+ some fruits.