5 Disturbing Myths People Believe in Genshin Impact
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Myth #6: The weapon banner is not a scam, it's actually a gift.
....from Satan.
I just am thankful it’s not like what it used to be before the staff of homeless incident…
legends said the weapon banner is pulled out straight from the deepest and hottest hell
Only true fans know the voice over missing during the Furina myth version 😂
And that Cyno's theme was playing over the whole thing.
myth version? sorry I am dumb
@@storagecrafter5701 nah. Jello first uploaded a version of this video where the part with the Furina myth had its audio covered by Cyno's theme.
2:25 : "one element that doesn't react" :
it was supposed to be physical.
C0 Furina has helped me clear a lot of things I couldn't before lol. I hadn't heard that statement before, that she's not the best, but that sounds like someone is sour lol
Oh believe me I heard that before , some even insisted that she's not as good as nahida or kazuha lol , but with time more and more poeple started recognizing how broken she actually is
Someone on reddit was trying to convince me that Bennet > furina 💀💀💀
@@maxwu4145zhongli>furina was the one i saw.
I've only got consistent 36 stars after I got Furina lol
Furina changed teams. That's what they could not digest.
Also "Zhongli is DPS loss" is only on paper because if you dodge you are losing your DPS ans if you die your DPS is zero
I think it depends on what you are facing. Copellia and tulpa are very aggressive and can easily one shot you while a lot of the other bosses can.
its a dps gain when running archaic petra. just look at neuvillites BIS team
Thank you for saying that. Just my personal experience. I have really good Zhongli(little weird hybrid-2piece-2piece) 53 000 life but with insane helmet and still good crit ratio. He is deals dmg with meteor in Navia team(Navia,Xiangling,Bennet, Zhongli) like 50-140k with insane 140 er. (talent lvl9) So he may spam that often(15% best in Akasha because of that little bit different artifacts-mostly hp focused). So even he is support he still did damage really high. So I checked many times is he even dps loss in rotation? Is Chiori better for my team(in dps yes but no comfort)? So you must really consider that comfort which Zhongli gives. Same story about 1000 times Xingu vs Yelan. Even that petrification is something for mobs. If you are skilled in doging and have strategy I gonna go yes. But honestly how many times do you have really easy boss. And if you have insanely cracked main dps.....It doesn't metter. In paper looks weird but in practice my zhongli is absolutely great somehow. Even better than classic hp-bot. If in the future we get harder bosses that may change that.
I'm a Ganyu main and I don't dare play her unshielded
@@maxwu4145 in theory. in practice its not that good as he has to pick up the hydro shard, and running around mid rotation can be a pretty big dps loss just because you lose field time for other characters
Jello, please avoid the term "autoattack" when referring to Normal Attack, it will confuse beginners, I know I did back then. There's nothing automatic about normal attacks except the targeting.
(And yes I know it's a borrowed term from MOBA, still doesn't make it right to apply on this context)
I've never heard anyone in Genshin say "auto attack" before and I'm really confused why Jello's using it here. Auto attack is what you have in a game like EverQuest or WoW where you turn on an attack button and the game swings your sword for you. Nothing of the sort occurs here.
I didn’t even notice this distinction since I see it used interchangeably a lot
Agreed. Most of the time I do say normal though, auto is just something people say that gets rubbed off
@@azuarc I see it a lot lol. The origin is indeed from those kinds of games, and it's just kind of synonymous with basic attack in a lot of people's minds that played anything similar. It's not like people actually think it's an auto attack when they say it.
Thanks for the clarification, I was wondering why I kept hearing CCs say this since the only thing in the game similar to autoattack is like Furina's minons or other similar skills - or Yoimia's auto targeting but you still have to press the button yourself lol
I feel like geo's main issue in abyss isn't damage, but elemental checks. The moment we get stuff like heralds, lectors, or most type of elemental shields that require a counter elemental pick, geo as the main source of dmg becomes non-optimal. You have to bring a specific counter elemental support or sub dps which may or may not mess up a geo comp
geo is actually pretty good at taking out most shields that arent exactly geo shields
@@sharktenko267 it's actually the opposite. Geo is great for taking out geo shields, but they suck against every other kind of shield
Most Geo DPS are claymore so all shields gets demolished faster than normal weapon types
Geo teams will always have a flex slot for elemental checks, they're also not too bad against shields either, not the best, but it's not the worst either. Granted you do need constant Geo application.
@@salceds in reality that flex slot is either Bennet or furina. Once you get a elemental shield that needs electro, dendro or cryo, your team setup becomes unoptimal
I think the thing with Xingqui for me, is that I'm a newer player (since December,) yet I already have a C6 Xingqui almost without even really trying, this is before Yelan has been on a single banner for me. On top of that, I'll 100% be pulling for Furina, who seems likely to get a banner before Yelan, too. So it kinda feels like having C6 Xingqui and Furina, then saving the primogems, is more efficient than wishing for an extra 5 star to only be a slight improvement on Xingqui.
You got really lucky if you got c6 4 star within 4 months. You can watch Jello's Raiden summons and how he pulled c6 chev for God knows how many wishes. Yelan is guaranteed within 170-ish wishes, and for some people this can be a plus.
@@Gentraf Yeah, that is a fair point, you can still kinda "passively" get Xingqui cons over a year via the shop and Lantern Rite, that being said, I definitely did get lucky, I got almost exclusively Xingqui cons while pulling for Neuvillette and I haven't really experienced that kind of awful 4 star luck yet.
@@FattyThinPhoton you're simply tooo lucky. I did like 500 pulls on gorou banners and I still have only c2 gorou. In that time I can guarantee c2 yelan. So I would generally suggest going for the 5 stars if they are better than the c1 or c2 4 star equivalents.
It is not just a slight improvement in terms of DMG, and for most teams xingqiu hydro application is not necessary
I love Geo tbh and I can't wait for future geo characters. My geo team made this abyss so easy and I didn't even have a main dps it was just Chiori, Albedo, Gorou nad Zhongli.
chiori is so slept on but she is such a huge buff for geo
I passed on Chiori because I already have Albedo and I’m missing other really solid characters like Kazuha, Furina, Yelan etc. makes me sad.
I hope I had zhongli,I can’t even count the number of times someone in my itto team died it the abyss.(IMO you need itto and gorou to actually dish out damage with that team,even if one of them died,the whole teams start to become bad.
But,good thing I am running navia as my sub DPS in my team (because,she can front load all the damage in less than 2 seconds and generate a ton of particles for itto)even if itto dies,she can manage somewhat as I am using an elemental applicator in the last slot most of the times.
I use gorou’s skill then navia’s 2 skills then click itto’s burst immediately (so that itto can take the particles from navia for the next burst)
I have no ER on itto and he is still getting his burst back easily(but,gorou’s uptime gets decreased,ig the geo damage bonus he gives for navia’s E more than makes up for it)
@@sharktenko267 Yes for real! My Chiori does some crazy dmg and combined with Albedo it's like there's explosions everywhere it's fun to watch lol.
I did Noelle Chiori Gorou and Zhongli and it felt really really slow. I kept having to refresh shield for Chiori so I could have two dolls. Anytime shield broke and Zhongli’s skill wasn’t up I suffered.
Did you have C1 Chiori? I think that would have made things much smoother. I feel like she almost has to have C1
Fun fact
Idk if you have noticed it or not, but for the entirity of 4.x , cryo has been actively worse than geo due to repeated inclusion of freeze resisting mobs , high cryo res , increased wave count in non boss chambers and how can we not name, the guy who has been in 5 out of 7 4.x abysses.... copelius.
yes it was so painful for me because I invested so highly in ayaka freeze team and wanderer . i didn't build any dendro teams and i was not able to 36 star for so long time ,finally now i have navia and nahida to carry me in this anti freeze meta
Yes cryo is struggling because mihoyo designed too many of the cryo characters with freeze in mind, then pretty much made freeze unusable in floor 12.
Cryo is still better than geo as an element because they have melt. Problem is, for now, there aren't really any cryo characters that are good at melt outside of Ganyu, who needs to much handholding to be truly good at melt. Melt also suffers from lack of off field pyro, outside of burning and Xiangling. But with more characters coming, surely melt will get better. Surely.
Cryo lastly suffers because superconduct is a dogshite reaction that does no damage and doesn't do anything for cryo itself. So not only does cryo not work well with dendro, it also doesn't work well with electro.
Cryo is in a weird spot right now because it is a better element than geo, though barely, but geo has the better characters. Aka, Zhongli and Navia.
@@jy1178 units make the elements
Without units , the element is just an idea /concept.
Cryo lacks units who can thrive in situations mhy is throwinh in abyss , with the exception of Wrio who is still seeing a fair bit of use in melt , and hence by extension, in confines of abyss has been a worse element than geo for ....better part of a year honestly.
Cryo will have its renaissance. Right now we’re in the Hydro phase of the meta and so there’s less susceptibility to freeze bc Hydro needs to be the strongest. Next we’re probably going to have a rise in the Pyro side of the meta as we introduce Natlan (hopefully we’ll get sidegrades to Xiangling and Benny) and then Cryo when we get to Shneznaya.
@@jy1178Wriothesley with Nahida and Thoma/Dehya.
I always like it when you mention the Furina - Chiori - Navia - Xianyun team. So smooth and so much damage and is hands down my current favorite team. It is a ton of fun to see a 250k+ skill and then 4x 70k+ plunge attacks if you can get them off quick enough before geo infusion wears off on Navia. Then the substantial off-field Furina and Chiroi damage AND the hydro swirl from Xianyun. Not to mention it is also one of the best exploration teams in the game with Furina water walking, Xianyun's hops, and Chiroi movement speed buff and the ability to "Keqing". And then the front-loaded Navia damage to blast anything in the way. It is such a fantastic team for any situation that isn't geo-immune.
Honestly my favorite go-to team and even if you run into geo immunities, Furina’s summons are strong enough to tear them down after Navia/Chiori disables their shield!
Yeah but this is C1 Chiori as there are no shields.
My Chiori is cracked but I feel so limited as I have to play Zhongli with her until she reruns. It’s off-putting tbh
@@tyalangan I just have her at c0. C1 is just an additional damage boost. Even at c0 Chiori is still great here. C1 is better than c0, but it doesn't change the utility and the cool down lengths. Such as how C2 furina is quite a bit better than c0 with how fast you can build fanfare and pump out more damage faster. But it doesn't change her usefulness and utility. Abilities do the same thing and cool downs are the same lengths. Chiori herself can be slightly clunky and not feel as good at c0, but she works great with the rotation of this team even at c0.
@@nohackershere6592 Maybe it was Noelle throwing off timings since I stayed on-field with her. I’ll see if I can add anyone to the team that would make it feel better since I don’t have Albedo.
You are so based for taking the stance that Yelan is better than Xingqiu. I think people don’t notice how bad the self-hydro can be because they cleanse it with Benny so often.
People will say Zhongli is overrated because he is a damage loss due to his kit mainly just being defensive utility but will then say Xinqiu is better than Yelan for the same reasons
Not to mention you lose mitigation as well as interruption resistance this really make xingqiu better with cyno/ wrio rather than yelan
i seem them as fairly equal honestly
with yelan being better in support cause of ehr damage increasing
while xingqiu is better due to being far more accessible thanks to lantern rite
Have played the game since lauch and his hydro app never bothered me tbh
Xingqiu C6 is better than Yelan C0
Xyanyun is niche because she need furina almost always... And that is so sad, if only she buffed like Kaz instead of healing...
Xianyun woudn't be such niche if she had some grouping in her elemental skill (it was the case in beta but was removed for stupid reason in favor of miniscule crit chance bonus for plunge). So we could put her in teams that require rather grouping+healing than grouping+buffing.
Geo Crystallize isn't even bad. You pair Geo Resonance + Archaic Petra and it gives you a total of 50% DMG, 15% Shield Strength, and 20% Geo RES shred. People think Crystallize sucks because they don't give Geo supports EM or levels. 1000 EM/Lv90 (very achievable) Crystallize net you about 23%/58% of a HP/HP/HP (48k) Zhongli's LV10 shield (including his A1 and 150% effectiveness) depending on element effectiveness. But they get generated basically every second. And you only need to pick it once every 10s with your Petra guy. Crystallize also doesn't remove much aura. Perfect for double Resonance or Thundersoother/Lavawalker/Blizzard Strayer teams.
And don't complain about "clunkiness" as if y'all weren't Kazuha double swirling every 10 secs.
We already got 2 characters that can pull shards in. One of those gives even gives DEF bonus (makes it 27%-69% ZL's shield). The other one is a good Quickswap.
Since on-field DPS is a crowded role, I'm working on building Navia Full EM as Geo battery/shielder/buffer with Petra.
About the Xianyun one, I agree! Now you don’t have to use venti’s held skill for budget Xiao lol😂
Jello is becoming bold... :0
This comment was def made after seeing myth 3 😂
Yes i do agree he is becoming bald
@@zukodude487987 bad hahaha
in defense of hyperfridge, or the fridge interaction in general
1. saying hyperfridge is useless just because Nahida exists is stupid because, well, quick reminder that people who don't own Nahida exist? free to play players who maybe lost their 50/50s or prioritize saving for their favorite characters, or just people who don't like Nahida in general, for example like you don't like using male dps characters, I've seen people not want to use child characters. sure, the fridge interaction might be more "useless" if you have Nahida, but there's loads of people out there having to rely on dmc or collei for their dendro application.
2. plus, I know that it's unlikely, but let's say you do have a nahida, and hypothetically your account is free to play and focused mostly on dendro reactions. well, you still need two teams for the abyss, and you can only have one nahida. what then? if you're using Nahida for something like nillou in the first side, and you only have dmc and collei left... hyperfridge would still be something to look into if you only had one of the two built and a decent cryo character with no shenhe
3. even if you're using Nahida, I'd say the fridge interaction can still be useful. after all, although you don't need the interaction anymore thanks to Nahida's dendro application, you're still getting freeze, which can be quite useful to not take damage in teams if no defensive utility, or just not deal with enemies annoying attacks in general. you could maybe make a case that since hyperbloom is single target you wouldn't be using it against freezable mobs. that'd be correct, for hyperbloom. but if we are talking about fridge in general, what about oven (burgeon fridge)? it's aoe, so you'd be using against such enemies, plus the cryo can cleanse the accidental burning if you don't have great hydro application, which is one of the downsides of burgeon in the first place. if the cryo character in built for damage, you'd be getting some nice melts too.
overall, I say that fridge is still worth looking into, even after Nahida's release. It might not be the most useful, but it still has it's upsides and can help a lot of non Nahida owners
but I do agree with salad (anemo hyperbloom). if someone doesn't own kuki nor raiden, sure, but if you do it's just not worth it. I'm not a big fan of it, but it's not absolutely useless either, it can be at least fun for some people
10:06 Ain't no way bro called HuTao as "Furina".
In what way is Yelan better than Xingqiu in Bloom variations? If we talk about solo hydro performance, in Hyperbloom you simply generate less seeds and the damage bonus doesn’t benefit the hyperbloom damage, the only variation where she CAN be better involve Alhaitham and that assumes higher investment where his damage actually matters, F2P Alhaitham investment with average artefacts tend to prefer Xingqiu unless you have Elegy on Yelan. In Burgeon shes way worse and doesn’t even work solo since burning aura is hard to remove if your hydro app isn’t high enough. In Nilou bloom you also lose out on cores and here (and in Burgeon) the damage reduction from Xingqiu matters a lot.
Everything you said is nonsense. Hyperbloom is all about how much cores hit overtime rather than how much you generate. If you generate 5 cores and have two enemies then 1 of them is wasted. There is a limit to how much will hit an enemy within a time window and generally Yelan's increased dmg together with your onfield unit (Alhaitham) guarantees higher dmg. Yelan's E tech with her Q (and hitting multiple enemies) and breakthrough barb also ups the hydro application for more skilled players.
Nilou bloom teams dont generally use Xingqiu/Yelan for competitive speedruns and when Yelan is used it is in a C6 context due to C2 Nilou and Yelan giving everyone higher HP% (increases bloom dmg & survivability).
Burgeon doesn't have meta teams, but a hot mess of variations you can play. Xingqiu vs Yelan discussions often center around more competitive teams like monohydro and hu tao/furina variants.
@@KokomiClan Hyperbloom ICD doesn’t matter in this discussion. Xingqiu by himself doesn’t get to that level where his better hydro application is a waste. So again, assuming the player doesn’t have a hyperinvested Alhaitham Xingqiu starts being better the worse Alhaitham is built because with Xingqiu more damage contribution comes from your transformative reaction. I also didn’t say that one is better than the other meta wise, I only argued for Yelan not being better in the bloom variations and Burgeon is a part of that discussion. To make it more clear: in any Hyperbloom team that doesn’t include Alhaitham Xingqiu is generally better with Yelan being a good alternative. In Alhaitham (and to some extent double hydro that doesn’t include Xingqiu) variations Yelan starts getting more competitive and situationally better but not per se.
I am kicking myself every day that I wasn’t playing Genshin during the time that Furina released
It's ok, she's coming in 4.7. Enjoy the game; it's not a race to obtain power.
She will get her rerun sooner so save up
Theres one myth that everyone wants to believe "Are we getting an alternative xiangling"
Hopefully the pyro archon is both an alternative Xiangling and an alternative Bennet at the same time.
Hopefully.
If Geo is bad means Geo characters are bad, no Geo isn't bad.
But one of the reasons Navia and Chiori are underrated is that the Geo element itself does have a lot of issues.
Yes, Geo resonence is quite good comparing with other resonence.
But did that make Geo units strong enough to be worth using despit of elemental shield abysses or the existence of other better elemental opsions? Idk.
The Geo structure problem is being neglected for years and even the latest new 5*character Chiori requires Geo structure. (unless you have C1)
In my opinion, Geo’s identity is strong damage even without any elemental reaction, and Geo structure these two things. The only character that fits to these are Navia(for the first one) and Chiori(for the second one).
Albedo can’t function well in abysses thesedays. However, Chiori doesn’t care if Geo constructs Break or not.
Some of current Geo characters are good and future characters as well could be great. But the Geo element itself has too critical problems that I can’t say that Geo is even ok.
I can see geo getting more traction once we get natlan though. If anything i see us getting ones that combos with both navia and chiori of them in 5.x
@@lolidemon3163 stfu...just stop....you dont even understand why they REFUSE to make geo reaxtions
Hi Jello! You said you wanted to make a Eula guide but the train had passed and you are not sure. I wanted to say that a lot of the Eula guides (on YT or on the internet) are really oudated, and people have the misconception that her supossed best team (hyperfridge) doesn't care about her and that makes me sad. I have paired her with Furina and its a great team, but I'm unsure of what healer to bring (definitely C6 Mika but at what cons are Jean, Charlotte and Xianyun comparable?) and also, I think the realease of Clorinde, which the leaks say she will be an ER buffer like Raiden, will be a great time to make the guide me and a lot of people desperately need. Love the grind, keep it up!
either mika or charlotte (pref mika) for cryo particles to help eula's ER.
I remember arguing with someone that said Kazuha is a better support than Furina because of his flexibility and all I can say against that is Furina can buff Dendro, Geo, Anemo, and even physical dps, basically every single hypercarry benefits from Furina, unlike Kazuha who can only buff elements he can swirl.. so for flexibility, Furina is better..
Kazuha may not be better support than Furina, but flexibility argument is questionable. Furina pretty much means "you need dedicated healer". So team flexibility suffers. Also, Kazuha is extremely useful in the open world and everywhere where you need grouping. But that's different story.
@@madzaisaI would say Furina makes my Inazuma exploration a lot more enjoyable as she allows me to walk on water, but otherwise I like them both.
Hydro traveller should've been a good Neuvillette only support like Sara to Raiden (kind of), if he had supportive utilities like giving hp buffs or dmg buffs. He would've easily synergiesed with neuvi bcz of those balls. But they made him walmart Neuvillette.
Dude, not even that. We are at sketchy back alley surgeon levels of bad when it comes to Hydro Traveler.
Honestly, Noelle is my MVP; team hopping, healing, shielding, mining, protecting my DPS after she stopped being my DPS all that time ago and shielding my lower-tier characters. After I got Navia, Chiori and Gorou, the foursome Geo team is one of my most fun and damage-dealing combos. Geo is definitely not bad and requires so much less investment than Anemo for example (not counting Kazuha), especially earlier in the game.
Well getting 1k em on kazuha can be somewat annoying if the game doesn't drop em pieces xD. Granted u can also say sucrose as well
I think Jello wants another madge reaction from Zajeff 😂😂
I will use elements without the characters to rank the elements, but I will use the elements, and corresponding characters and artifact sets (to a lesser degree) to rank strength of usage in the game. I think Geo as an element, although necessary as you say, is the worst element in the game by itself. However, I don't label Geo characters as the worst just because they relate to Geo, they bring and utilise different mechanics which are subjective to be fun or not. So, I do think it's fair to separate the elements from the characters and talk about pros and cons.
Thank you for your service, soldier
4:07 zajef77 on his way to rip off your balls 💀
You're wrong about hyperfridge. It's awesome.
You forgot Furina is BiS for Tighnari and she enables his hyperbloom teams which are insanely good.
I also agree that geo is not bad, just different. Is good to have some variety in terms of elements and I can't help but think that they will do something really good with Geo in the future as it's the element that "represents" China, which is their country (and also it's archon is one of the strongest, if not the strongest in terms of lore).
I’m feeling like w the inclusion of Navia and Chiori, that Hoyo is revisiting the element a bit more to try and revitalize it. At least that’s my hope as a geo enjoyer! 😭
I’m also hoping Albedo and Klee will be the stars of the Dornman Port area when that releases bc they aren’t often in the main story and they have interesting lore.
Great video Jello. Keep up the great work!!!👍👍👍
Not getting xianyun was a huge regret ngl, as a newer player and low budget f2p I had to save for kazuha but I see xianyun was able to provide similar value
Xianyun has quickly become one of my favourite characters, didn’t expect to like her so much
I think the best way to see xian yun is she is a character that buffs motion value (the same way upgrading talent levels do), bennet buffs atk by giving a lot of flat atk, yelan buffs dmg% through her burst passive, and xian yun buffs motion value by change the NA multiplier for the better plunge attack multiplier (that also has no ICD).
Number 4 is something I can absolutely subscribe to. At first, I believed that as well, but pulled her anyway simply because I loved the character. But I soon learned that she just slays in whatever team I give her to. Her and Furina sure brew up a storm!
They really did Hydro Traveler dirty. I appreciate that they’re trying to tie in that Traveler’s resonance with the different elements is based on the different elemental dragons’ abilities as we see in Azdaha’s and Apep’s weekly boss fights, but they could have done it in a way that was actually… useful. My traveler is just gonna always be Dendro or Geo just bc they have better utility.
Geo mainly bc I find myself backtracking in Liyue and realizing I need the constructs that last long enough on the geo activation plates to do a puzzle I missed.
I love the new transitions in this video. Sick stuff 👌
The video you chose to illustrate your thoughts of yelan being better than xq missed the mark.
Xq fulfills yelan and zhongli role on that team allowing you to replace zhongli with a stronger character. What ever damage you lose from the yelan vs xq, you more then gain from not playing zhongli
3:20 "Hydro is the most broken element but hydro traveler is terrible" Does that mean hydro as an element is worse because hydro traveler exists? I don't think so, it just means hydro traveler is a bad character. It sounds like you just disproved your own point. I would argue that just about every geo character would be better if they were literally any other element. What I mean by that is Zhongli isn't good because he is geo. Zhongli is good because he is Zhongli, and Zhongli would be even better if he was any other element that wasn't geo.
Remember that you have even said yourself that this is a game where the primary point, the “endgame,” is to collect more characters. And this is literally why Geo is bad/the worst element. It has the least units, and works with the least number of units/teams in the game. It’s not a matter of power, because you know you can clear the game with everyone. It’s simply a matter of not enough units.
Honestly Yelan just feels better to play but I'd argue that XQ is better cause getting interrupted plumits your dps and running a shield character is more of dps loss than just a slightly less offensive Yelan
I think she just "feels" better cuz her skill is more smooth and faster to use, but XQ is so good, they are very on par imo
XQ has the boon of being a liyue 4 star so hes hyper accessible
its not slightly lol. the off field attacks do significantly more damage and have better scaling, as well as buffing your on field characters dmg%. She is clearly the superior option for dps
I find I lose more damage making a mistake with Xingqiu than with Yelan.
Xingqiu’s skill is easy to miss against fast moving enemies and his cooldowns are much worse than Yelan’s.
Slight less offensive yelan Is a myth
Between Chevreuse + Lisa and XQ + Bennett in Yoimiya team, The chevreuse one made me able to clear 36 stars. So.... These are overrated to be honest.
Myth#6 you have to pull a character only if they strong. I've beaten ALL content in a game without a single pull. Pull who you like and enjoy the game
"Best character" is always going to matter on context. If you're looking for who will add the most damage to the team, then Furina easily has that honor. But if you are in a situation where survivability is difficult, Furina actively hurts you in that scenario. This is why I still think Xingqiu is the best character in the game (and by extension, also better than Yelan). Regardless of whether you need offense or defense, Xingqiu will always contribute to that goal. Furina and Yelan may do a better job on offense, but a dead character gives 0 dps and you would need other characters on the team to cover the defensive aspect for them.
so, do you have to use healing bonus sets for your bennet to fully function with furina? or is it unnecessary?
Sure, Yelan is better than Xingqiu in terms of damage for the team, but I also think that many people underestimate Xingqiu's defensive utility. Before you learn to dodge and build your healers and shielders, Xingqiu is better than Yelan because stagger + dying = less damage. Then you get to the point where you have defensive utility from other units and you're pretty good at dodging, and then you don't need Xingqiu's defensive utility anymore, so Yelan 's better. But at some point you get to the situation where you don't want to use Zhongli or certain healers on your team (except Furina teams) because they are a damage loss, and you start playing shielderless and healerless teams, but it's too hard to survive, so you use Xingqiu over Yelan because it's better in terms of damage than using Yelan + healer/shielder. For example, you can replace Zhongli with Xianling on a Hu Tao team, and it's gonna be better in terms of damage, but it's extremely hard to survive on this team without Xingqiu. In other words, Xingqiu vs Yelan is a matter of skill level. Beginner (the more def the better) and hardcore player (only Xingqiu as defensive utility) would prefer Xingqiu, but good player (other defensive utility + dodging) and God of the Game (no defensive utility) would prefer Yelan. And Furina matters too - Yelan's better on Furina teams.
Well I cleared comfortably with some goofy Geo team called Navia Chiori GMC Layla, I said this because my GMC was not invested and basically there for the crit and f2p construct. I couldn't clear in one rotation before. So that's quite a feat...
Well, "Geo is bad" actually still true tho...
The amount of Geo characters are fewer than all others, most 4* work only in Geo team and same for 5*. The only exception is Navia and she is new with just 1 banner
Xianyun lets me main onfield Candace and I will forever be thankful for that.
I *almost* skipped her, and very quickly she became my favourite character I've ever pulled.
Though can she actually DPS well at c0?
On Xianyun's "is niche" myth, I'd add that players have come to automatically think "Oh, this character is limited in where they can go" when they hear the word "niche" in any context. Using "niche" in Xianyun's context would be "Xianyun enables a niche playstyle/mechanic (plunge)", which is a completely different statement to saying that she is niche.
Edit: Reclarifying some of my message. The point was to explain the "lost" meaning of the word niche. I will also add to myself that I still see Xianyun as niche because I see everything as niche, even Nahida and Furina. It's just that they have a larger niche when compared to someone else like Jean or Barbara for example.
Yeah i've always seen it as niche playstyle
I understand why you look at it like that. But what makes a playstyle niche? Is hu tao niche because she charge attacks? Is Nahida niche because she turns every team in a dendro reaction team? Is Yelan niche because her burst triggers with normal attacks? How many team options does a character need to stop being called niche?
It's also not like the playstyle feels the same just because you add plunges in a rotation. Xianyun with Hu tao, Navia or Barbara all feel very different teams. Just like Neuvillette and Hu tao feel different despite both being charge attackers. Or like Ayato and Yoimiya both do normal attacks.
@@NLwino I take the word "niche" by its ecological meaning, which roughly means "how does the species match to its specific environment". This is asking about the species' role, competitors, and other interactions. So in a sense, everything is niche. Nahida is niche in the sense she creates dendro reaction teams. Yelan is niche in the sense that she empowers NAs. It's just that some niches are larger or smaller than others due to power, strengths, interactions (this is the biggest factor for Genshin), etc.
I do suppose that my second sentence does get a bit messy, to which I probably got the ecological niche meaning mixed with the "gamer" niche meaning (I'll edit it slightly).
But yes, you are right in that characters with similar playstyles feel very different, and there are cases such as Hu Tao and Neuvillette where the former can use the likes of Xingqiu and Yelan, but the latter cannot. It's just that in this case, these are niches that occupy different spaces, but have some overlap.
@@NLwino to all those questions, yes. Niche simply means 'specialisation'. A niche can be big or small too.
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Jello: "And finally, #5..."
(not being mean i genuinely find this sort of thing funny lol)
Also you should try the Hydro traveler hypercarry (Hydro MC+Furina+Kazuha+Baizu or Yaoyao), I recommend using Emblem set with ER sands and attack goblet.
Use Kazuha E to group the dendro cores on the enemy and shoot MC burst at it from medium distance, which can produce 6x number of hits that makes the burst potent enough (over 3500% damage) to play in the abyss.
Hey! I like your videos. They are great!
It could be great if you can make guides for every abyss. I am one of those persons who skiping abyss. Maybe it is because i fail few times and decide i am here to have fun and not suffer xD
I like to build characters and try teams as much as you but i am not so smart to build good teams to beat abyss.
Thanks for your work! I got much from your videos.
10:30 It is Mona apparently. Her burst the omen gets popped by Furina’s Ousia summons too fast for it to do big pp damage.
Ayato best team is either soup or nilou team. Not with furina.
Also got to have enough ER for ayato to burst every rotation and/or fav on kazuha.
yeah, true. that's the reason why i run fav or amenoma on ayato. I don't care about his personal damage that much since it's not just him dishing out damage. I know the same goes for Childe but uhh.. Childe has a nuke and he has an easier time double swirling than Ayato
When Yelan released so many were like nah you can't use her with HuTao she can't vape every CA.. meanwhile I was there vaping every CA every single time.
The only difference is you need to have hydro on the enemy before you use HuTao skill with Yelan, while with XQ you don't.
That's a downside for AoE and multiwaves, but single target / bosses is no problem.
I slightly disagree on Furina though, but not really with your argument.
She might be BiS for many teams, but I also feel like there are few teams which aren't already fully functional without Furina, just because of XQ Yelan existing.
The only one on my account is Navia, she just feels bad without Furina since there aren't other great Geo buffers. And even then, Yelan does give a smaller buff too.
Furina mostly just takes that already functional team from 9 to 10 and I'm not sure I would call that the "best". Unlike say Nahida who enables like 10 or more teams by herself.
Choori is so fun to play. Double swords and a killer design. She is not the strongest but she is still my fav geo.
Keep growing the beard man!
Great lists of myths and explanation, and I’d like to add the good ol’ myth that is still getting spread
“C6 Bennett is bad”
Yes, if you’re Eula main
If you are not, then C6 Bennett just elevates practically 90% of your account’s dps and sub dps, so activate that C6!
I was holding off for so long but when I got xianyun I finally c6 him and I’m very much happy
I need this carry xianyun video! Xianyun is so nice for healing and exploration now you tell me she can be a carry too?!
“Geo is bad” the thing is, in a game where the elements are compared to each other, there will always be a “worst” choice. And in this case, it happened to be geo. But if you look at any other game with a similar elemental typing-related system like Pokémon, there will *always* be people ranking things as the “best element” or the “worst type”. It isn’t even a “this needs to exist” kind of thing, this is a “if it didn’t exist, then having different elements would be completely meaningless”.
Really good video!
I am glad somebody is talking about Yelan being better than Xingqui (for DPS). The comparison was always made between the two characters. However, Zajef is the main reason why this narrative persists.
Both characters are top tier, but people like to downplay Yelan because she is a limited 5 star character.
Great myth busting - I've learned the past year of playing to ignore most ppl's opinion on characters unless I know for sure they have actually BUILT the character properly. The amt of times ppl have said a character is not great, only to discover they didn't actually build or play them, or that they kinda built them but not with the same investment as their favorites (this includes CCs).
Another thing I'd like to add about xingqiu is that he can heal! Even if just by reading how it works you think it's not very practical or not worth it that xingqiu heal has actually come in clutch for me on several occasions lol
As the geo simpest simp, and to be brutally honest
Geo is bad regardless of any point you've mentioned (with all due respect)
The "onga bonga" style that you said is my fav style actually cuz it's a chilling style for most of the content
HOWEVER
the idea of 1 element not interacting with other elements is basically useless
Physical units in genshin exist for a reason
It's a playstyle that needs nothing (basically the 8th element with eula being it's archon)
Geo whole idea was Physical like hits but can create construct and sheilds (constructs that barely do anything and was dumped while ago with the stupid 3 constructs restrictions and itto being the last geo unit that was able to create geo construct+ sheilds that's as fragile as baizhu sheilds)
Imagine if navia was Physical unit with a stacking system like eula, she will not be affected by that change (Physical hits instead of geo) + chiori is not as good as navia by any mean, ik they're not playing the same role in a team but she provides NOTHING but dmg and tbh you need cons to make it GOOD
In conclusion, hoyo doesn't know how to handle geo or fix it (the earthy defensive type, or tanks) very well, and they clearly failed big time
But but i luv the golden animation of geo, and their designs are sickk tbh with funny or majestic personalities
That's why I'm a simp
But yah, had to say the truth ig 😅
Thank you for the video❤❤
Yes so you just stupid...😂
Bro c2 raiden or c2 furina already got c1 neuvillite and still cannot beat abyss with my other half team comp
Who do u think i should pull for?
My neuvi easlily beats first half of abyss but i still lack 2nd half should i go for dps or furina for supp ?I prefer constellations over pulling characters as im f2p and dont have enough resources for all characters to level up and also dont feel pulling for weapons as it is very much a waste of resources so whom should i prefer to pull for raiden or furina who can help me clear other half of abyss
C2 Furina is much much stronger then Raiden's c2, Raiden becomes more of a dps at C2 which is strong sure. But Furina's C2 is a huge team wide buff and she gets that buff within 2 seconds after her burst with the right team mates, like it's insane and much better then C2 Raiden
Run C2 Furina with dps Xiangling Xingqiu and healer Bennett
Thanks gyz
Geo require a lot of Geo characters and specific investment. Also a lot of 4* Geo only works as support of other Geo and can't be really used outside of it much.
Recommendation for intro wording. Welcome to Jell-O impact where I have built and tested every single character in the game to help you decide, etc. etc..
about hyperfridge, I do agree that nahida changed many things but the cryo variant on the other hand remains excellent, beacause if you happen to triger burning ie losing some burgeon, you will melt your hit.
Genshin is only “easy” if you have time every night to farm. I have a demanding job that regularly goes at least 11 hours a day and sometimes even goes more hours. Hard physical labor and I’m pretty wiped out by the time I get home.
I like casually logging into the game after work - but I don’t last long before I’m simply too sleepy to play longer.
Weekends I have more time - but even that is mostly dominated by the wife and kids. So progress is really slow.
Talents, weapon leveling, character leveling, are all creeping along.
And artifacts? Most of my mains are still forced to use Wanderers and Gladiators pieces with appropriate main stats.
I don’t even have my main characters, weapons and talents leveled up. Why would I be blowing resin to farm Viri, Noblesse, Emblem, and Deepwood artifacts?
Anyway - even the main story bosses are plenty challenging for an account like that.
Your characters progress is locked behind resin anyway. So you need just 30 mins to do dailies and few dungeon/boss runs. Quests and exploration can be done on weekend and holidays. I have full time job and still have at least 2 hours for games since it's my hobby. Genshin is already too casual. If you have no time or will to play then you're not really interested in it, just find some other game that you can play with your family.
@@user-rm3itr40rnd who said I want the game to be easier?
I just said it’s not exactly super easy if you don’t farm all the time.
I’m not asking for change
Interesting thanks for the vid 🙏
Geo is not bad because it can't get dmg reactions necessarily. It's bad because it doesn't work with the other elements because of it. Its really iffy to build non mono geo teams with geo units even with navia. The problem is not that geo doesn't get an upside from reacting it is that it actively steals other reactions dmg because of it. Chiori fe is really good but unlike any other really good iff field dps you can't just slap her on any team and be fine. There is just so many characters where that does work. Yea they don't fit on every single team but they can fit in alot of teams and still benefit them alot. Wuth chiori you either run her on mono geo or duo geo with zhongli and basically kiss ALL your reaction dmg goodbye. Its very disruptive unless you build specific teams who can deal with it or don't care about reactions which isn't allot
sorry to ask but what was the into song. It sounds sick.
Myth number 7, HSR is better than Genshin because more free stuff. It is not. The relic system causes much more pain than artifacts, and the free wishes and character cannot help with that. Not being able to equip an off-piece is just horrible.
True. Also, you can't unga bunga your way in moc like you can in spiral abyss, so you NEED more characters.
even if i somewhat prefer HSR because at least it allows me to play previous events and because turn based games are probably my type of game, i definitely agree that the relic system is just bad and not being able to hold off pieces stinks. not to say the genshin artfact system is good though but it's slightly better.
i think another issue, is that it almost feels like the later bosses felt like you need a said character to beat them, you can try without them but man it feels ridiculously hard, maybe i have a skill issue but whatever i guess. Argenti took me so long to beat since he deals too much.
edit:oh right i forgot you can full auto. though that depends on your investment level.
@@usmanya5110 exactly! i'm suuuper far behind on relic farming, it's soul crushing, genshin's artifact system is at least tolerable with the off pieces.
@@joaomiranda2252 that's usually the nature of turn based games as whole, so no unga bunga
@@joaomiranda2252 agreed. i remember how painful it is for goblets.
I like your explanation for Xianyun. She's amazing because she unlocks plunge teams. She make older characters better and more relevant. Diluc, Hu Tao, Xiao... these year 1 DPSs are now up there with the top damage-dealing teams. I was skeptical of her at first, but after I tried her, I realized her potential. Now I can actually clear the Abyss with Diluc (sue me, I'm a scrub), who is one of my favorite characters. Now Xiao's health-loss isn't that bad. I could go on, but I do think Xianyun is one of those game-changing characters.
And to your point about Furina: yes, she is that good. She is showing up in more and more of my Abyss Teams because she's going to make everyone better.
What i don't like about Geo is that it's just Physical but yellow number.
Sure it does create crystalize shield but my girl Noelle can tank Tulpa's attack even if she's got pyro appli on her so it's not that useful.
Wouldn't it be cool if crystalize shield can debuff enemy who broke it and give different debuff depending on the elements, and EM amplify/prolong the debuff?
Example:
(Edit) Hydro - reduce enemy's Max HP
Pyro - reduce enemy's attack
Cryo - (can enemy CRIT?, if not maybe debuff their move and/or atk speed or smth)
Electro - (I don't think they have burst so... periodic stun?)
Something like that...idk
I just want to see EM Zhongli
More reactions isn't the answer IMO. Geo doesn't need those things to be good, and adding all those things would just make things way more complicated than they need to be (like seriously that's basically adding a second elemental system into the game). There is already an artifact set that does basically exactly what you are wishing: Archaic Petra. It gives a pretty sizable damage bonus for the element who's shard you pick up.
@@kanoaikawhat I'm trying to say is...
Geo is Physical 2.0, in a way that it is somewhat simpler than physical if you want big number
- If more reaction isn't the answer, then what is yours then? If your answer is "Geo is good as is" then I have to disagree because... Physical 2.0, so I hope your answer isn't that
- Why not add the third elemental system when they've already added the second one that is dendro? And what I suggest is a lot simpler than the whole dendro reaction such as burning, burgeon, bloom, hyper bloom, quicken, spread, and aggravate.
- all Archaic Petra does is buffing and it's the opposite of what I'm asking
- what I'm suggesting is y'know... a debuff... An effect that while it persists hampers the target in some way, and make Geo have the Shaman Role in Genshin
So... Yeah, maybe I'm asking for a lot but I don't think I'm asking for too much
@@loki_shu
- My answer is not that the state of geo is "good as is." I am simply saying that it doesn't need new reactions to be fixed. Artifact sets and better designed/more characters would be able to fix everything that I can say is objectively bad (i.e. mono-geo teams don't have enough to be really good and geo characters can often have limited positive impact in non-mono teams).
- You could add another elemental system and if it had been in from the beginning it could feel in place, but at this point adding a complex set of interactions to a preexisting element just sounds unlikely, overly invasive of a solution, and like it could mess up preexisting teams. It is basically like going and retroactively changing the element of all the characters we have already. I would prefer any changes to the state of geo to be through new content rather than new reactions.
- In your specific set of proposed interactions, they just don't make sense as a default game mechanic. Dendro reactions were internally consistent and only based on 2 new mechanics and a very obvious one that already existed. All of them were reactions you would trigger (in contrast to yours which requires an enemy breaks the sheild which sounds inconsistent and annoying as a trigger mechanism), and you just need to know that quicken provides increased electro and dendro damage and dendro cores can be created with hydro and detonated with either of the other reactive elements. The reason why it worked was because it was a new element (so didn't mess anything old up) and the reactions, while new, were (although multi stage) internally consistent and based on a few core principles (hydro makes it grow something, electro activates/triggers things, and pyro burns/destroys them).
- Yes I'm well aware that Archaic Petra is a buff not a debuff on the enemy, but for the purposes of 'making geo good' a buff to you and a debuff to the enemy is equivalent. They both make your characters relatively stronger. I understand your solution revolves around debuffs but I don't see a reason why it needs to be that way other than because that's what you thought of first.
- AP being a debuff does not make it bad. AP is the reason why Zhongli is actually good in high investment mono teams like Neuvilette, Furina, Kazuha, Zhongli.
- AP being a debuff does not preclude making another artifact set like VV/Deepwood that applies debuff based on crystalize. Again if its debuffs you want, then a new artifact set could provide that without completely changing how an original element works.
- About making geo "have the shamen role". Againi think it would be fine through specific characters or artifacts, but changing the element as a whole seems excessive, invasive, and irrelevant to the established identity of geo.
As an alternate solution that you might enjoy, why not have an artifact set that provides universal defense decrease to enemies based on some crystalize reaction (preferably on forming or picking up the shard, or the shield is active). Something like that could instantly elevate geo's applicability up to where anemo is because of VV while keeping in line with something that has traditionally been tied with geo--defense. HP is hydro, defense is geo, attack is pyro, energy is electro, crit and cryo, movement is anemo, dendro is dendro (mainly focused on EM and reactions).
An artifact set like that could make geo even more relevant in general teams, without messing up old teams, without adding an excessive number of mechanics, providing something completely new (universal, reaction-based, artifact-enabled defense debuff), and still tied to the core identity of the element (geo is most stongly tied with defense out of all the elements so it would be fitting for geo to be the one to provide it).
Wait is furina really best in slot for yoimiya? whats the full team look like?
But Furina will not be the best in slot of Arlecchino 😂😂😂😂 tremendous plot twist.
Furina C2. 🗿👍
it still works, but it's not the best option
@@manday2267 c2r1 furina with arle will smoke all content regardless fr
@@cocomuffin5007Yeah, but I find out that Arle will always 50%; because of Furina. So it might be risky, unless you’re playing her plunge…
I keep seeing Dukaja like every 5 hours
Prolly because he got them AFK Journeys spon
Xianyun is niche isn't really a myth. It was an assumption many made before she came out. Before we knew how good she is and that she can just enable any benched unit
You're right that it's no longer a myth, but it shouldn't have been even during beta. Her strengths were obvious even then but a lot of people just refused to see it.
Mono geo is one of my favorite teams, be it got lucky getting chiori, redhorn, itto and c6 gorou in the same banner f2p. (I had a little pity on weapon banner and character banner, grinded and won a bunch of 50 50s)
If I want to optimize my hu Tao team ( with furina yelan Jean) should I get xianyun or c1 hu Tao? ( I know that furina cons would be better)
In the specific team you are talking about, Xianyun is kind of Jean + Hu Tao C1. I see what you're asking as kind of a wash--really depends more on whether you want Hu Tao comfier in other teams as well, or whether you like the plunge playstyle.
Xianyun. She make your Hu Tao hitting AoE, and pretty great for exploring. 👍
its not about bad its about fun :D
Liking right away for the geo appreciation. Will watch later. ❤
Geo would be better if there was a dedicated shatter oriented unit
Man... The shatter oriented unit is freminet and he's cryo
@@mauronoacontaldomurgia2088 well, it would be something different from Freminet that doesn't revolve around alternating between blunt and cryo dmg on his own but on the geo interaction instead
if only petrification was a more developed mechanic instead of being exclusive to Zhongli, that could also be shattered. Maybe make Zhongli's petrification exclusively unshatterable sure, but it could be a really cool mechanic
"Geo bad because no reactions" meanwhile Neuv is out there being one of the best characters in the game and he kinda only uses reactions to activate his passive, very much like Navia who is also great
Geo is fine, the units are built around not reacting, Gorou kinda sucks as far as dedicated buffers and Chiori was a very boring one dimensional Albedo power creep tho
i honestly think gorou would be fine if he actually just buffed one thing or no stupid restrictions, the other buffers felt better since they can stack with other units, and have no stupid restrictions. and Sara and Faru can also somewhat dishout some damage even if their damage contribution is low.
A bit of my opinion for not liking Geo:
There is reaction for Geo with other elements - crystallize, which has became utterly pointless because of shielding characters.
Most Geo characters produce geo constrct, which is most boss fight it gets destroyed so easily it makes you feel like "what's the point of putting it on the ground". Or if the character rely on the construct to do damage, well the damage source is gone.
Now from the 2 geo characters released recently we can see that mihoyo has clearly see the issue mentioned so the new characters both avoided the mentioned.
Though the old characters are still stuck with them.
one of the reasons why people think "geo is bad" is cause geo's damage only really scales through vertical investment i.e. if you didn't have really good artifacts or level their main damage talents to 9 or 10, they will feel worse to play than playing a traditional hyperbloom team which you just need to slap EM pc's and the electro trigger talents can just stay at lvl 1 and it would basically almost deal the same damage. I agree that the game needs to have an element which doesn't react to other elements, geo is the most straightforward element in the game and it fits with the word "geo" that it is "unmoving" or "rock solid", though that's also why people perceive it to be the "weakest" element gameplay wise. (Jello even said it in a past video, that noelle needed to have high level talents, really good artifacts, and 5-star weapon level of investment to feel good)
Though this perception somewhat has been slightly fixed with 4.0+ character releases. With Furina, You don't need cracked artifacts and 5-star weapon on Noelle for her to 36* abyss (even with fav gsword noelle, she can comfortably 36* abyss from my testing) i.e. you can actually horizontally invest now instead of just focusing all your resources to make your geo character have godly amounts of CV/RV. Xianyun also despite anemo having no innate reaction to geo, her ability to buff plunge attacks (also with 4pc SoDP artifact) actually has a synergy with geo characters. Unlike kazuha which only really buffs the PECH (pyro,electro,cryo,hydro) characters.
Also anemo hyperbloom only feels good if you use a dendro character that apply less dendro than nahida. e.g. DMC, Baizhu, Yaoyao (this is actually a "salad" team - if you watch zajeff you know what this team is and its inner workings). This is actually why some people are not too happy with nahida release, not cause she's not good, but becuase she's too good how is hoyo going to release a good dendro off-field character that doesn't clash with what nahida does 🤣🤣
I think that's also why Ningguang gets such a bad rap. Those of us who got her early on, and got all her constellations (because with so few 4-stars, they were on every other banner), got to see how hard she could hit with some investment into talents and artifacts, compared to even the 5-stars of the first two continents. It wasn't until Raiden and Ayaka that she started to fall off. But there was the need to farm very character specific, geo specific artifacts, from a domain that was _particularly_ unpleasant for new players, while Inazuma gave us the near universal Emblem set.
But, you can tag-team back and forth between Noelle and Ninguang as their bursts come up (damn-near constantly, with how well Ningguang batteries Noelle), taking very little damage and needing very little healing, letting you use the other two slots for purely damage focused off-field supports, or the elements you need to deal with shields. Furina and Xianyun make _really_ good supports for that tag-team.
U forgot to mention xianyun works well in hyperbloom if u run yae
is it skill isue or my acount sucks that I cant even clear floor 12's 1st chamber?
Depends . Are your characters build well? Do they have the right artifact sets and if ur teams have synergy.
While I do think Furina is pretty much the current "best" character I don't know about her being the one singular definitive "best in slot" for EVERY character.
Particularly with Wriothesley, depending on the situation AoE vs single target, freezeable vs non-freezable, etc his teams can vary like a melt team with Shenhe as a key character for boss/single targets or AoE mobs with Kazuha grouping as a key character. Then there's also teams that need more hydro application (some hyperbloom/vape/burgeon teams) which Furina's rate is slower than characters like Childe, Xingqiu, or Yelan. And then there's also Lyney, Chevreuse, or Itto who are highly incentivized to play without Furina. Even teams that want Bennett but don't have room for partywide healers can feel awkward with Bennett as the only healer to help build fanfare.
Not to say that Furina isn't a great support for a lot of characters but I think that's one of the biggest misconceptions about Genshin that there are definitive absolutes when it comes to who is the "best character" when honestly it just depends on the situation and what you're up against.
Gotta love a good Kazuha/Navia team
I agree with all of these. In my humble opinion, I honestly think Xianyun is one of the best characters in the game. Pull wise most certainly but I’d rank her as high S tier while characters like kazuha, Furina, etc are S+ for overall utility. The fact that you can turn characters like Diluc into monster hitters by just having her in your team is a huge deal in regards to new players or f2p players.
If by "geo is bad" a person means that it is expensive to build geo teams and make them competitive with meta, then yes geo is bad. There is an exception in Navia but Navia has so little in common with other geo characters that she could barely be considered a geo character.
Man I have C6 Xingqiu but don’t really have a team to put him on. I also have C6 Barbra. My two teams are Tighnari and Neuvi. Neither one of them want Xingqiu. Such a bummer
I disagree on your Xingqiu and Furina takes.
The extra utility Xingqiu provides (dmg reduction+small healing+more hydro application) makes him a valuable character. Dmg is not the everything important in the game. I don't think Yelan is "better" than Xingqiu. They are equal in terms of character value. You can also get Xingqiu from the shop and lantern rite event so his cons are not that uncommon.
Nahida is still the best character in the game imo. Dendro reactions are really busted and most Dendro teams needs her to work optimally. Nahida is really going to help new players to clear abyss easiliy.
However, Furina requires good healers to work optimally restricting your team building options, and the HP drain mechanic makes your characters really squishy. I can see a lot of low AR players struggling to clear chambers because of her HP drain mechanic.
I think there are differences you can make on the value thing for Xq vs. Yelan
If Yelan is on banner or on one of the next banners her value is really high and overall outshines Xingqiu if he isn't close to C6 or already C6.
But as long as she isn't on banner and not in the near future Xignqiu just has so much more value as he instantly impacts a whole account. Even with C0. And there are multiple ways of obtaining him.
And if you already have Xignqiu Yelans value really depends on the roster of an account. If Yelan doesn't add anything new compared to Xingqiu her value goes down a lot if the account is building teams. If Xq is stuck on C0 Yelan might be a great upgrade. But if in the next banner you can get a Furina and make a Furians, Xq, Hu Tao Xianyun/Jean team this might be better than pulling Yelan and missing Furina. And this is the true strength of Xignqiu. Allowing accounts to pick their Hydro 5* much more freely.
It's not clear how you disagree on Furina. "The best team for character X includes Furina, and if not the best, the team with Furina still performs close to it." He claims that is true for most characters. Given this standard, do you think this statement is more true for Nahida instead, i.e. do more characters have her as best in slot? Or is your argument that this is a bad standard?
@@givemeaworkingname Yes, Nahida is a bigger improvement for dendro teams than Furina which make her a better character imo.
Most players do not have BIS teams for their characters and the next best hydro option is generally pretty close to Furina teams in terms dps.
This is not the case for Nahida. Some teams like Nilou bloom feels terrible to play without Nahida, and we don't have characters that can apply dendro as well as her.
The only thing I agree with you on re. Nahida is that dendro reactions are busted for new players. Dendro reactions are strong but have a lower damage ceiling than other element comps that are highly invested. Nahida is amazing, but I don't get why people still argue that she is as strong as Furina. Her personal damage is much weaker, her team/main dps damage buffing is weaker, she's more replaceable by other dendro than Furina is by other...anyone, and she has a much more limited selection of team comps.
pov: there is no good or broken character in this game that you must have and in the next region half of these characters will be useless. and characters from the next region will be useless in the region succeeding it.
maybe not useless but they wont be as meta or necessary, like i bet even hyperbloom wont be a good option in the next region. and mihoyo will find a way to make furina somehow not work in natlan and they’ll release a better version of her and we will live in that loop forever.
You should really stop playing with your food, Kafka.
Geo reaction is just insanely boring. It would be cool if you could generate a shield with every element for one, but it would be great if each elemental shield gave you a small respective stat bonus aswell as having its own shape and a secondary effect, like a spikey shield that makes enemies take dmg when they hit you.
Anything would be nice.
Myth n°2: Geo is bad, because they lack characters, still (as a geo main).
Let me get my point, they lack a healer to pass Rifthounds and an active dedicated buffer for ATK scaler and constructs.
I agree the element is in a really better state than before Fontaine, though.
Another issue of Geo, is that they don't have a set (like Anemo has VV) to abuse. Petra is very underwhelming, because its working made it bad, and doesn't buff the Cristallise in itself, like VV buffs Swirl
we seriously need another geo buffer that isn't super niche that's gorou.