BIG ISK Gas Huffing In A 10m VENTURE!! || EVE Online
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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I've covered Gas Huffing before on this channel, but today I wanted to show an easier entry point for ANYONE to get involved!
Here's Ninja Huffing in a super cheap Venture!
[Venture, Ninja Huffing]
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If you find a vast, bountiful, vital, or instrumental that is previously untouched you can warp to the cloud and move 260-270km from the warp in point and create a book mark called "gas spot" warp out to any other location and warp back to gas spot saving a gas perch on your way back in. (This all done in a cloaky scan ship btw) warp to the perch and cloak up to remain hidden while you wait for rats to spawn.
Bring back the huffer once the rats are on grid. Sit at zero on the gas spot and huff in peace. As long as you warp off as soon as you see combats you can never be blown up. If anyone scans the site and tries to warp in they will warp into the rats and have to leave. They have to use combats to get a direct warp in and if you are like me, they wont complete the scan before youve warped off thanks to dcan. I huff with two prospect that have syndicate gas scoops and have had a bunch of people try to get the drop on me with no luck.
With this technique you can have a porpoise join in with boosts and compression when you are full.
Dont stay in siege mode though. Always watch for combat probes and be ready to leave.
Happy huffing!
o7
Nice!!!
So sitting in the bookmark spot causes the rats to spawn there instead of the actual cloud?
I dont get what perch is or why would you huff from a point 250 km away from the cloud?! Is there a video that explains fhis?
The rats spawn at the warp in spot. It's the spot that has the red square denoting the anomaly and is also where your bookmark goes when you book mark the anomaly from your probe window.
The clouds are so big that you can be 270km or more from the warp in spot and still be at 0 on the cloud.
@@Amathylar should of tagged you
A corp mate and I were huffing in a c2 yesterday when we got rolled up on my an anathema. naturally if we can see a covert ops ship on grid something is fishy. so we fleet warped away to our safe. well 15 seconds later a hecate and a loki rolled up on grid at our safe. luckily we managed to get back to our highsec hole without any losses. netted me almost 40mil.
Nice! Well done!
Yeah sorry about! I’ll get you next time hehe
@@1982Clarkey idk my dude, im a squirmy little pilot.
@@annabaelfire2173 that you were! Fly safe o7
If you see a covert ops ship on grid, that means somebody has fucked up terribly. Usually, when you see covert ops at all, you're seeing them from your pod. Dscan is your friend,!
Only thing I would add is use a cheap exploration frigate to do the initial scanning, will greatly speed up the tedium of scanning. Also your profits go way up when you're also uncovering data and relic sites, since you're scanning most things down anyway.
Yup! This video is based on my wormhole series where I've suggested exactly that. I only suggest the Probe Launcher here in case you need to scan a new hole ☺️
Watched your jedi huffing video with a prospect yesterday and decided to try it out. The first few minutes was a bit nerve wracking but soon enough the two gas nodes i found netted me about 70m by the time I had to log off.
Good times, but I need to find the good stuff now.
Good luck and well done!
I named my venture "Tonka truck" cause these what it reminds me of but I like little yellow bug
Haha Tonka Truck works too!
Whoa, I never made that correlation, but that's spot on!
Great vid but what is missing is the price of the Gas Cloud harvesting skill book. At the mo it is a whopping 39 million isk. No idea how may skill points I need as I'm still grinding mining, but the initial cost of that book alone is 50 x the price of the Venture ship itself. Unless you know if a way to get the skill book cheaper?
Buy it on the market at Jita, not out of the skill book, for starters, but yes, it's not the cheapest. Initial cost of entry.
lmao not me putting relic and data anylisers in the fit so if I find those sights they don't go to waste
Hey, if it works for you!!
Any way to deal with jumping into a camped wormhole without a cloak or is it just gg? I feel like just trying to burn out of the bubble uncloaked wouldn't work lol
Best bet is to burn back to the hole. Hopefully you have some tank and a prop mod. But this is why I personally scout my holes ahead in a Cheetah, and/or use my Prospect
how do u actually make moey though do you just sell it in the market?? Am fairly new to eve so i don't know much about selling things
Yup! Or if you're part of a corp that has a buyback program, you sell to the corp instead!
i usually pack a WCS in the lows .. but thats not really for the inside but for the outside when back in lowsec where the griefers waiting ;)
Smart!
Just the part about speed of zero meaning that I am facing everywhere and giving me the minimum time to face and reach warping speed towards wherever I want to escape was worth the price of admission.
Glad to help!!
As a new player, I need to practice this now. Save me some pain and isk.
It's also worth mentioning that gas harvesters in a barge will suck up gas twice as fast and hold twice as much as a venture/prospect and while the Coveter gets the best bonus, it also has the smallest hold and so you need a porpoise to compress and store gas for them. This is great if you're in a group, but if you want to go solo, a Retriever is the way to go. One load of gas will pay for a barge, roughly 60 mil in 30 mins depending on gas type, so if you get jumped once every four or five times out, you're still making more than a prospect and providing content to wormholers who like to hunt. If you put a mobile depot in a Ret with a probe scanner and cloak or scout in advance with heron, you can be in and out with twice the gas in the same amount of time. There are a lot of empty wormholes 2-3 jumps from High Sec in the game where you can tuck yourself away and make pretty good isk and be reasonably safe.
Great tips! For barges, I personally like the Hulk as I got mine to sub 5s warp time
@@captainbenzie The Hulk is a great ship, but it costs 4 times as much as a Ret and you can build Rets with only basic minerals you mine anyways, so it's easier to replace them IMO. I'm not sure how fast mine is, but I have low friction nozzles on and its probs under 7 secs. Great channel, have a good day.
Sorry do you have a video on the barebone basics of gas huffing? Like how we'd identify systems with Gas sites, how to find those gas sites?
I'm struggling to find a gas site, whichever the fit that I'm using. I've tried scanning 6 systems with zero gas sites, and I don't feel prepared to head into wormholes just yet
There isn't an easy way. Lowsec and Wormholes, those are your two options, and scan away!! 😊 Good luck!
any chance this is still valid present day? :D
Nothing has changed since I made this so, absolutely!!
Thank you so much for all these videos! I'm getting back into Eve Online after trying Eve Echoes and being dissapointed at the state of the game. These tutorials are exactly what I needed to get back into the game after so many years. Keep up the great content!
Glad I could help!
Early? No way. Thanks now I wanna huff gas.
You can start huffing in your first day or so of EVE Online. Run the Career Agent Missions, get your free ventures and some ISK. Run some mining ops in said Venture, earn 40m (doable in a couple of days) and use the Million Free SP (from my referral code) to get enough skills to do that, and have enough left to train the Gas Harvesting skill to at least 2. Did it on the alt that you see in this video without the 1m free SP in three days.
Hey thanks for the guide! I'm struggling to work out why all the gas sites I enter have enemies right away when your video shows them spawning after 15 mins.
THX for the 1.000.000 skill points, super good video from you
Happy to help!
Ive been playing on and off since 2003 and have been making sure my stationary ship is facing my warp point all that time lol. Nice to know.
It's a common misconception - facing only matters if you're moving 🙂
Blasted the rats. No return after 20 minutes. Is that your expected as well?
You can get someone to shoot the rats. They won't respawn.
Where is the best place to find gas signatures?
Wormholes
@@captainbenzieand low sec?
Great presentation, Cap'n, and fab tips...especially the warp alignment mechanics.
Thank you!
can you gas harvest with a standard frigate?
With gas scoops yes, but a Venture is better than a basic ship
@@captainbenzie i was thinking like an apocalypses or something that can hold a bit more and take a few more hits before warping
I often do low sec gas huffing as well and it really is nice that you can make enough in a few hours to replace the ship a dozen times over. I have since upgraded to a prospect which is a bit more painful to lose but I am also more comfortable and a lot less likely to lose due to the safety a cov-ops cloak provides.
Glad to hear you're enjoying!!
Crikey 40m for the gas huff skill. Few more weeks yet ty
Check the markets too. The Skillbook can sometimes be purchased there cheaper
lol after losing a few prospects to pirates I've resorted to running this (almost exact) cheapest venture fit, except I am using scoops 2. What I do is find a remote low pop system where I set up my camp. I send in a venture, find a wh there and find gas site, mine it until npcs spawn, then jump in my cruiser, kill npcs, then back with venture and afk mine until full or gas site is empty. Being a such a cheap fit (around 14 mil with scoops 2) it pays for itself many times over before something kills it. Also I can't be bothered with D-Scanning all the time and staring at asteroids for hours, so I just run game in background.
Also maybe it's just luck but I've noticed pirates rarely care to waste time hunting my venture, but they are much more enticed to hunt down my expensive prospects.
The other last suggestion I have is to still keep orbiting the gas cloud (reduce speed to make sure its under 1500m), that way when NPCs spawn they will be 90+km away instead of right on top of you like in this video and you have lots of time to react.
Great tips!
Which cruiser do you use?
@@alanwatts8239 honestly haven't played Eve in a year, don't remember anything anymore 😁
problem is , when you fill your cargo where do you drop your gas ? there is no stations in the same system in null sec ? do you travel a lot just to deliver it then transport them to jita via a cargo ship ? do you have any better way ?
Personally I'm in a wormhole corp so I head back to our station, drop it off then use a DST or Blockade Runner to move it to market (if I'm not selling direct to corp)
When I was nomadic, I'd jump into a wormhole from K-Space, fill up, then jump back out. I'd always be based fairly close. Either collect at a "home" station and haul from there, or just use the Prospect to take it straight to market, depending.
If you warp into a gas cloud and you wait the 15 minutes and you warp away before the rats spawn and then warp back does the 15 minutes restart?
Nope. So when you warp in, you have to be aware that someone else may have started the timer.
Soon-ish i can do the same. And mine ore in an endurance with 3 mining drones, and 2 miner IIs
Its drone capacity and bandwidth helps a lot
Endurance is a great ship! Just not for gas huffing 😉
@@captainbenzie for that i will get the isk with an endurance, to have a prospect to go huffing gas
I'm new to your channel, and fairly new to the game... Never huffed gas as yet so may give it a go... Just an off topic.... Has anybody mentioned that you sound a lot like stampylongnose who does Minecraft videos?
Haha nobody has mentioned that 😂
what I usually do is to harvest gas in the FW area of Amarr and Minmatar. No one disturb me, so I can harvest a whole vermillion cloud IN 2 hrs that I can sell those for 67mil in amarr XD
Haha nice!
Nobody ever mentions the time to buy and fit the ship, get it to where you need it to be, find WH or combat site etc. Then get there too. Followed by selling your loot after. 10m was great for the cost into the ship for sure, but it sure wasnt no fifteen minutes
Because you only need to do that ONCE, so it would be pointless to talk about
If my friend asks how long it takes me to drive to the airport, I'm not going to include getting ready, stopping for a coffee, or buying the car 😂
lol i also mine gas with just 2 scoops and 2 small shield extenders (in case u end up in a sleeper hideout u can survive with half armor) XD the scanner is on my corvette and I flee once npcs spawn so no real need for afterburner. love mining arkanor in wormholes too
Nice
Sorry bub, but this one gets a thumbs down without even watching. Gas huffing? Let's see.... I tried that miserable get-ISK-Fast trick. -39mil for the skill injector (keep in mind, that brought me down to about 9 mil balance), the damned basic scoops were another 5.197mil - each, to refit the Venture to make Big ISK! Hours and Hours invested simply trying to _find_ a gas cloud. Two lost ships due to Null space mishaps travelling to/from where I finally found a gas site, including my Salvager turned gas gatherer. This was before I bit the bullet to put two scoops on the Venture; Jump Cat, the Salvager only had one, -5.1 mil, down the drain. By the time I finally got past the Gate sitters and back to the system with the wormhole... it was gone. More fruitless scanning.
Total investment:
16-20 hours of scanning down time. To be fair, there was a +7 mil gain for one Relic site along the way, and a mil or two more from having met daily goals for scanning goals.
~ 38 mil ISK in lost ships
~ 18 mil ISK in ship upgrades, collecting dust, but no gas, and no ISK
~ 39 mil ISK Skill injector for Gas harvesting
So, 95 million ISK for no return? After days of scanning and playing? That's not making "100 ISK/hr!"
I'm sorry that was your experience and that you've taken this as a kind of "Day One" guide. This was aimed at players who are keen to try gas huffing. Sure, everything has an initial investment (look into how much getting set up for C5 ratting will cost you) and takes time to earn back.
20 hours of scanning seems extreme. Admittedly, I live in a wormhole and have a wormhole corp around me, but pretty much every connection we have has at least one gas site in, often many. At that point, yeah, I'm making 100m an hour easily.
I'm sorry, but I really rally against the concept of "pricing up" the cost of lost ships (fly safe and smart, you're fast, if you're D-Scanning properly you should ever get caught) or the cost of Skill Injectors 😅
@@captainbenzie I guess that's the key; you're in a good place for it. I'm in and around Delve and Period Basis. I do apologize for taking my frustration out on you. My Huffer was blown up by some _extremely_ patient WH campers that waited for me to come out, literally minutes before server shutdown. 🙄
I'll just chalk it up as a failed experiment. o7
Are there any easy ways to get the 35m isk to buy the gas skill injector?
All kinds. Mining, Abyssals, depends what content you can do
Lots of good tips in this vid. And I did the million SP through your link. That's pretty cool, thanks, Captain.
Thank you!
New to the game and have been following your channel for the great wisdom you impart. One thing not mentioned here that is of import to new players like myself is the cost of the skill. 39 million isk is way beyond what a new player can hope to spend. Is there some other way of acquiring the skill?
Don't buy from the skill screen. Fly to Jita and search the market for the book, or join a corp that will help 😊
You may have already figured this out, but wormhole exploration in data/relic sites is super easy as a new player and can net you 10k -> 100k per site (higher end if you're lucky). It's also relatively cheap at about a 1mil investment, you can make the cost of the ship back in no time. It's what I started doing before getting into abyssals.
You can use that to purchase the skill books or any other necessity.
Does anyone know how long the enemies stick around or when you can go back?
Until killed or when the site despawns
Where is the term "huffing" coming from? I am not seeing that in game? Is this a certain technique or something? The only term I am seeing is "scooping".
It's a colloquial term for scooping gas 😅
@@captainbenzie oh boy, I'm dense. Huffing, like a hobo with paint. Now I get it
Hey there, I want to thank you for both this guide as well as the SP. I got back into eve after not playing for about 5-ish years? lol I have a second toon built for mining now, in which I'm still trying to get used to the controls. But when it comes to making isks, we just go to any random stations to sell the items? what mats should we farm for? I'm just trying to figure things out as I'm getting used to the controls again. And again, Thank you!
Welcome back! If you're looking for a corp, Catskull is recruiting! Check my discord!
Regarding your question, you can sell at any station, but orders may take longer to sell, and may not sell for much. I'd recommend Right Clicking on your loot and going to "View Market Details"
Otherwise, the main trade hubs are found in Jita, Hek, Dodixie, and Amarr.
@@captainbenzie Thank you! I tried to use the discord link, but its not working. It stated that it was invalid. Also, wasn't Jita like a danger zone before? lol What have I missed??? lol
@@dreadfulknight449 Jita can be risky for the unwary, but so can the entirety of New Eden!
Try this link (note that it's case sensitive) discord.gg/CPeZnuGX
@@captainbenzie You have a valid point lol. I miss my svipul. I was trying my best to get to at least Minmatar cruiser 3 or dreadnaught on my main toon lol. Also, I just tried that link and it failed too.
@@dreadfulknight449 hmm, can you find me on Discord (Captain Benzie#3738) and I'll send a direct invite
your video is useful. can you make video on setting the interface.
Working on it 😉
6:33 I've already scanned down this class 4... that's the part I actually wanted to learn. How did you find it? What was the scan approach. E.g., do you first scan for wormholes in a given system? Then, once in the WH, do you start scanning random X's until you find one? What does it say when you find it?
I've covered this in other videos, but yeah. Scan down wormholes, find a safe space inside, scan the signals. If no gas, move through to a new connection and continue. If you're using Pathfinder or Tripwire, document as you go 😊
@@captainbenzie Great, thanks for the response! Any tips on finding a safe space within the WH? Is it safe right by the WH? So I could exit right away if needed?
@@svalbard01 if you have a cloak, yes. I often double click a direction, MWD for a cycle, drop probes and then cloak back up right there on grid. By time I'm done scanning, I'm usually 150km or more from the hole so can warp straight back to it if I need to!
@@captainbenzie I was able to use this strategy on two wormholes today. Worked like a charm! One thing I wasn't expecting: the second WH, half of the cosmic signatures turned out to be more wormholes! LOL. You can just keep getting lost I guess - down a rabbit hole of wormholes.
Now you have to explain who will buy that gas because it's not that easy to sell. You are not mining dense veld here.
I have never had an issue selling gas at any of the major hubs. It's always in high demand.
@@captainbenzie That's great then. For me I make 5 to 6 mil per lvl4 Security mission. It can take 30 to 45 min to finish the mission and salvage.
On the other hand it take 10 to 20 min to finish and salvage a lvl 3 mission making 2 to 3 million. I can do those with an Alpha and all T1 mods.
These are 100% safe and I am not counting the LP, rating increase and storyline missions.
Again as an Alpha.
But that's my play style
@@LastoutriderI mine kernite in WH space, making over 1.5 million every mining laser cycle, (three minutes).
@@Sladeraptor17 You can find Kernite in 0.4 systems. That is not a big deal. I made 12mil every 10 min doing incursions in high sec.
One minor detail that I didn't get is why you jumped to the star and from there to the exit wormhole instead of straight to the wormhole. Was this for convenience, or was it a strategic choice? If the latter, could you explain why it's a good idea to do this? Also, is it a good idea to go back or will the sleepers still be there? For how long? Should I go to a new site altogether? This kind of information helps me close the full "loop" of the process. Thanks =)
I warped to the sun simply because it was the fastest thing to warp to
If you spot players in the system, warp to a SAFE, not a hole or sun, as it may already be bubbled.
Rats will remain until cleared. If you're Ninja Huffing, it's time to find a new site or go sell, depending. If you have a way to clear the rats, awesome! 🙂
@@captainbenzie Thanks for the thorough reply!
Do you need to go to null sec or are these stores available elsewhere?
This is in J-Space (wormholes) but there are gas sites everywhere.
Wanted to come back to this and say thanks. I've huffed 1B isk with my Prospect, never ganked (YET!) Maybe one of these days I'll get tired of hearing you talk about them and take the plunge in to a wormhole. :D
Haha good luck and really glad that you're enjoying!!
I thought you had to go into a wormhole to find a gas site. How did you find a gas site without going into a wormhole? @rgsmith1966
@@TheFlightsimNerd there are some in k space with different types of gas
Quick question, how do I sell the gas on the market? just as is? Or is there some process I have to go through like with ore to sell it better? Thank you!
You CAN reprocess it, but honestly I just haul it raw.
@@captainbenzie thanks Cap. Love your content
@@TheFlightsimNerd glad you're enjoying!
Huh i thought that if you align u warp faster even from being still pre starting warp
Nope. It's all to do with "velocity vectors". Imagine arrows that grow outwards from the centre of your ship. If you're going in a direction at 100% speed, you have a 100% speed arrow going in that direction. When you go to warp, that arrow needs to slow down, turn to within 5° of the destination and speed back up to at least 75%.
If you're not going in a direction, the arrow is at zero and not pointing in any direction. When you hit "Warp To" from stationary, the arrow just starts to grow in the direction already. The actual ship graphics don't matter.
@@captainbenzie hmm nice to know! Thanks
This is pretty useless in a venture, isk-wise.
Not in Wormholes, especially if you have a corp or someone you can jet can your gas to.
I just lost my entire ship because I got trapped in someones warp....
This was great! Thanks man. I appreciate it.
Glad you enjoyed!
Can you use t2 scoops on alpha?
I believe so.
any usb advice on how to multibox with one mouse at the same time??? pls understand the question, im not asking for a ''SWITCH'' usb coz i dont wanna switch between pcs, im asking for a usb port that can control multiple pcs from 1 mouse
That's basically scripting. There are apps you can use but I don't think the single mouse is possible.
Nice vid Cap. Good work
Thank you!
Good Video m8
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey @captainbenzie thank you for the great video. Can you tell me, how long does it take for the rats to despawn?
They don't. You have to kill them or find ways to ignore them (like Jedi Huffing)
Venture and expedition frigates best ships in eve. Thee shall sniff fumes in the morning. Also nothing is a bigger finger to gankers than a speedy getaway.
Agreed!
I didn't catch you mentioning Ordinary gas sites, they have the sentry towers already spawned that can easily alpha a venture. You focus very much on solo play which Eve is not suitable for, if there are more than one of you, you fleet up, the person in squad command at 15 minutes start to sit ready to do a fleet warp out, the others continue to spam their d-scans for hostile players.
I play solo almost all of the time tbh, been doing okay 😊.
@@Silvervulff69 yup, it's okay. But to compare, I've taken 5-6 corp mates huffing with me and they all gave me 10% of their gas haul as a finders fee, or you're one of the 5-6 who gets the benefit of someone else finding the gas sites, making bookmarks etc.
I'm showcasing what's possible as solo, simply to showcase how it's done, whilst also driving folks to move with corporations. It's not always possible to have friends online.
That said, again, the video is mainly just showing "How to do the thing", I'm not suggesting people do it solo, just showcasing how it works 😉
Personally I prefer to bring friends to shoot the rats. They get blue loot, I get gas. Failing that, I Jedi Huff in a Prospect mostly.
This just in, group play is more efficient than playing solo.
Tune in at 11 for a new breaking discovery; is water wet?
You don't have to be at speed if your aligned your aligned insta warp go ahead make a vid prove us wrong do a timer
This is wrong. Utterly wrong.
To warp, two things must happen:
1) You must be aligned with 5° of the target.
2) You must be moving at 75% of your maximum velocity, or faster.
Ship facing doesn't matter, it's just graphics, what DOES matter is your ships velocity and velocity has a direction. If you are moving directly away from the destination, you must slow down, realign, and reaccelerate to 75% in the correct direction. If you are motionless, your velocity is zero and you accelerate at the exact same rate in ANY direction.
The "Time to Warp" in the fitting screen is based on you being stationary.
You will only instawarp if you are moving at 75% max velocity in the correct direction (facing within 5° of the target)