For viewers thinking about this in terms of isk per hour, you will still need significant time to scan for a wormhole, scan all the signatures. This is why Eve is not a solo game, if you have active explorers in a corp sharing this information, you huff as a group, tip the finder so they make a bit more for the scanning effort.
In my alliance I run wormhole operations we just had a single mining op with only 3 players showing up and made a billion isk in 5 hours it was the best gas site in the game and we ninja mined it no combat at all the sleepers don’t even Afro on you
If you scanned wh in the system you live in, get in and check whatvs there. If gas, take a huffer and sniff it in, if relic/data - hack it in an explorer ship. If non - do something else. If you are not dedicating yourself to finding a gas sig, but only use opportunity, it will not take that much time at all.
There's an even safer way to do the sites for some of them, in the vast, bountiful, instrumental and vital reservoirs, the main gas cloud is large enough that you can set a bookmark 300km from where the rats spawn (in the middle of the site, where you warp in) and still be in range of the gas cloud, you'll be able to huff in peace without the rats even aggroing on you.
Love these beginner videos! I’m actually a new player who has tried to play the game for years now. But every time I get demotivated, since I’ve seen your series on Eve Online I haven’t stopped since 3 weeks! Keep te content coming, cause there’s still a lot to learn for me!
Hey I have the exact same thing, tried eve multiple times for over 5 years but never got to understand what I was doing and gave up, now I am 4th day in a row and starting to get the hang of it mostly because these videos as well
i just want to say thank you for the fit and video. i just had a vedmak warp in on me and lock me down with web, warp scram and neut. i had to manage my cap but he never got me out of half shields and i was able to warp to my safe spot just as his buddy in an astero warped in, so thank you very much. i love your videos and look forward to more. keep up the good work and fly safe sir.
As beginner noob instead level 1/2 combat missions did wh gas huffing with Venture. Got ganked once but still managed to pay for cruiser, BS etc.. Nowedays i take a prospect for a fun ride because it has bigger cargo space and ofcourse covert ops. Still Venture would be still a good choise for the job. Do not forget to bookmark the wh where you come from and carry extra set of probes.
Just a comment on the fit - Cap Flux Coils are for passive shield tanking. If you want better cap recharge you want Cap Power Relays instead. I opted to fit one CPR II and one PDS II instead. I like using the PDS as it gives quite a few little bonusses, and with the slight lift in the amount of extra cap you get and the cap recharge it works out surprisingly well. With these two items in the low slots I am cap stable (I do have good engineering skills though).
I just now realized that both Warp Core Optimizers and Inertial Stabilizers negatively impact signature radius. Well, damn... there go my old fittings (only really used them in high sec previously). As such, I made a new fit that compares favorably with the one featured here in a few ways: - sub 3s align time from stationary; - is a lot harder to scan down by probes (22,74 sensor strength for me); - has a warp stabilizer that can mitigate one basic scram; - is faster by 26,4m/s before activating the AB (2785,8 m/s max speed with AB for me). Downsides: - no shield resistance bonuses; - 42% worse targeting range and scan resolution (it still has 543 mm of resolution, so I don't see this as an actual problem); - only 58s of cap (without the warp stab) - this is probably the main downside but, with nearly 2,79km/s (i.e. over 10k km/h), it should be able to speed tank just fine with the booster only being used occasionally (without the booster/stab it's cap stable at 42% for me, so it should recharge quickly if some care is taken). Mind you, I do have most of the relevant skills maxed out, so this fit may not be useful to you if you don't, as it's very tight (0.7 power grid to spare). Here's the fit: [Prospect, WH Gas Huffing] Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II 'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I Sensor Booster II Small Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster 10MN Afterburner II Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Gas Cloud Scoop II Gas Cloud Scoop II Small Auxiliary Thrusters II Small Polycarbon Engine Housing II ECCM Script x1 If you don't use a separate ship for scanning, feel free to replace the Small Auxiliary Thrusters II with a Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I (sadly the T2 version doesn't quite fit). Likewise, if you absolutely want to be cap stable, you could always replace the shield booster with a Small Azeotropic Restrained Shield that doesn't impact your sig radius while giving you a passive shield regen of 8 hp/s and 5110 ehp. Truth be told, in terms of damage mitigation, Benzie's fit is far superior, but I feel that making it harder for gankers to scan you down, having
Nice to see you play with the fit! I should say that most gankers, especially in J-Space, won't scan you down. They'll scan the sites (if they're not already bookmarked) and will D-Scan to see which one you're in. You'll find that most gankers warping in will struggle because they don't want to fight the Sleepers, and can't move to you cloaked due to the gas. As such, align time is kinda all that actually matters for survival! 😅
@@captainbenzie That's quite interesting information, cap'n! If that's the case, said ganker won't drop on top of the ship - hence giving us plenty of time to gtfo. If only Inertial Stabilizers wouldn't bloom the sig. >.>
started eve 2months back, im in null corp and i easily gain 500mil a day semi-afk huffing myko gas for few hours, sometimes around 800mil if i get a Lime Myko gas site, two ventures with syndicate gas scoops, I tried WH gas huffing but realized WH gas ain't giving much isk + it can't be played semi-afk.. I just keep eye on local and do my office work while huffing in null.. I'm happy I found gas huffing so early in the game, I was just trying it out with a corp mate and i loved it since.. suits well to my semi-afk playstyle..
If I wanted to play EVE and live the most boring life possible, I would live in Null. Then I wouldn't even play, how is it fun for you just sitting there doing nothing? If you're making 500/mill afk it's either because you have a shit ton of alts or you're literally sitting there for hours and hours every single day. Either way you're response has nothing to do with this video since you WILL make more in wh then null.
@@captainbenzie Second attempt was a major success! Warped in at range and huffed 78 million isk worth. More than made up for my prior mistake. Thanks!
@@captainbenzie some can roll wh close! :) and if it is big enough AU you won't even see it coming even when use D-scan. Scan is a thing, esp. when Venture cargo holds expensive gas :D
If you r really good at it project discovery gives you ~200k every minute 200k*60=12 million and u can do this while mining or warping so it's basically free money Edit: Unfortunately, devs saw this and you can only submit some every day. But still a lot of money
Ninja huffing always felt like the cowards way out, running away as soon as the rats spawn. So Jedi Huffing seemed much cooler, sticking the middle finger up to a fleet up sleepers whilst you casually orbit and suck up all the gas 😂
Just so you know the aggro range of the sleepers is about 250km range. SO since the cloud is so big you can burn to the outer edge of it and huff outta aggro range. You legit don't even have to move.
if youre not in danger of being killed by anyone. you really should use the T1 gas scoops. T2 gives you residue. the T1's do not. this means while yes the T2 are faster. you dont get as much isk from them.
I found a wormhole group to run with after watching this video and it’s been such great isk I run 2 accounts and the other members have a porpoise to benefit everyone
Is there still a market for gas? I'm a bit confused. Before investing time I had a quick look at the marketplace. No orders to sell most types and small buy orders. Am I missing something? \o/
You only need to initiate warp to a gas site for the timer to start for the sleepers. You don't need to actually warp to it. Might throw some people off and make them wonder why npc's are there if they did that and only thought you had to actually warp to the site.
This is false, as if you manage to warp and stay cloaked the rats will never spawn. It's only once you are decloaked on grid, if rats spawned it means someone else has warped there, rats also very random with times up to 30 mins and as little as 14 minutes.
@@umadbroimatroll7918 I've never tried it with cloak enabled. But we do it all the time without so we can have the site runners kill them before our other guys go harvest. Good to know.
@@javajoecupofcoffee6816 yeah I warped to 100 at a site to wait for the rats in my proteus, 40 mins later and I'm thinking man this is a new record for rat spawn, but then 1 hour goes by and I decide to just start harvesting, thinking someone else killed the rats, like 16 mins later they spawned
I'm having an issue with my setup, fitting is exactly the same as this one in the video except i put 2x small poly engine housing II instead of small poly engine housing I. My problem is when i orbit a gas cloud (or ore or anything else) my ship does not stay within the 1500m range if my afterburner is on, seems it cannot turn fast enough to stay that close unless i turn off the afterburner (which leases me slow and vulnerable) Maybe my evasive maneuvering skill is too low? its only lvl 2 atm. also my base speed is 539.4 not 554.4 like in the vid
i lived in a C3 for about 4 days mined for about 12hours each day.. i think as a newbie alpha with minmal skills i was doing 20-30mil depending on if it was C3 or C5 gas
this is amazing hahaha, i dont know how you got to 2.3 k m/s with only an afterburner, i had to go with a mwd, but currently there are 5 sleepers chasing me 20 mins ago just going round and round they cant even fire XD
Good video, but I'm a little confused! If you're not going to get caught by the sleepers, surely you'd have to be orbiting the cloud at 100+ km from it's centre? How do you do that with gas scoops with 1500 m range and 22 km targeting? What am I missing? Has something changed in the last 3 to 6 months?
A venture is not fast enough to Jedi Huff, but can be used for gas huffing if you ninja huff, basically warp in, watch for the rat spawn then flee THE SECOND they spawn.
@@captainbenzie Thank you for that. I am a new player to EVE online and just did my first gas huff run today, learned from your tutorials about J space and Ninja huffing.
Huffing gas in k-space is also extremely profitable. Just today i was lucky and huffed about half a bil of mykoserocin It's especially profitable if you know what regions to huff in too.
CB so do you just travel through the gas cloud until you find something to click on? I have the ship/scoops/ and scanning skill but I’m having trouble finding something to click on. I don’t know how to add gas to my overview
Open your overview settings, then scroll to harvestable materials, and make sure gas is selected, or download an existing overview. I use the Signal Cartel one.
Hello! Maybe I missed something, but where is the fit listed? And where I was very curious, how did you got ~2200m/s speed with 1MN afterburners? If a 10Mn was fitted, what did you changed in the fit?
I was so curious of this myself. I have really good skills and was sitting at 1300+ on my speed and 32 sig. Sleepers warped in and were blasting me. Webbed and Nueted me almost perished. 😂
Tried this fitting with all the correct skills and my speed tops out at 1222 m/s. Was curious how you managed to get yours to 2153 m/s? Are there any other skills that help with it?
4:10 oh and 'Jedi huffing' ... my main is from 2008... never heard this to this day. Lets check other gas tutorials. I am confident they use the term all the time. Cause Jedi's are known to be *stealthy* ... with those BRIGHT GLOWING swords and all that... super sneaky. A credible name would be *Ninja Huffing* i suppose ... but how else you get the Disney growd lel! Remember calling your ship 'Huffing Falcon' ;) He found so many clouds in only 20 parsec! He just chew-i-ed them up. Selling you must, in Jita, best price you will find! (ok i am done :p
Jedi and Ninja Huffing are two different things. Ninja Huffing (I've gone a video on it too) is warping to a site and warping off as soon as the rats spawn. Jedi Huffing is when you build to speed tank the rats, like a Jedi deflecting all the shots with a lightsaber. I'm not a Star Wars fan, I didn't invent the term 😅
With the recent gas market crash and changes are you going to revamp this video? June saw a big permanent drop in the gas prices due to ship construction. Personally I don't know why the booster gases dropped too? I assume it is a panicked market, hoping the boosters rebound this fall. I am still causally scooping the boosters in 0.4 LS as my alpha. I am making about 1 billion per month doing this very casually. Still a solid mining video but people will have to put in more hours, if they plan to keep huffing gas in WHs. Back when I was WH huffing, I was living in the wormhole owned by Wormlife, and used my destroyer to clear out those nasty NPC rats. Yes I even nailed the 5 sentry turrets at the Ordinary Perimeter Reservoir with my destroyer, it takes practice and makes it fun.
Newbies TO GAS HARVESTING. This isn't a "Day One" video, it's something to aim towards. "Here's how to do the thing" not "Here's something you can do on day one", at no point did I even insinuate that it was day one 😂
Yes they do MWD are only meant for short bursts of speed, not for prolonged use. Remember that they also make your signature radius bigger so you don't become harder to hit with an MWD on, you actually become EASIER.
So with this fit I had a couple scouts and an "Awakened" something warp in on me. Got me down to about half shields and then after the first web got on me I nopped out. Maybe that was just an unfortunate spawn?
how do you manage to orbit at 800 with 2k speed? my character exceeds the 1500m range for scoop as soon as i turn on my afterburners while trying to orbit at 500m. how come?
How do you sell for anything other than small change? I have, according to my ship inventory, 6 million isk after my first ever wormhole dip. Got out, went to sell at trader and was only offered 35k!! How do I get even near that amount?
if I train a huffing alt up - is it worth bringing it in as a hole scout while running combat sites in my Tengu then shifting to letting the tengu act as a cloaked defense and huffing the gase?
@@dudewheresmycar6318 because you’re in a system and can keep an eye on dscan for ships coming into the hole, and if you see something interesting, you can have your PvP acct jump in very easily
@Captain Benzie: How long does it take to find a WH that has a gas site in it? I've been scanning for hours and haven't found one yet, only data or relic sites so far. Am I just unlucky?
The game loves doing this to me 😅 if I log in on my main character, I'll find only gas. If I log in on my gas huffer I'll find combat and relic/data... It is just bad luck. You'll find sites eventually!
@@captainbenzie damn my luck then! It also means that gas huffing may not always be the right activity if you only have 2 hours or so to spare to play EVE, does it?
@@YanickGirouard Gas huffing is best if you already live in a wormhole, cause the connections to K-space usually have people that already huffed t he gas.
And by the time you actually locate the gas the ISK per hour drops significantly due to just finding the gas. Better off making 40M ISK/hr hi sec mining with an Orca and a Hulk.
Great Vid... seems I have stumbled onto most of your suggestions by accident. I am saving your build, but I am seriously paranoid about wormholes.... In my early *early* eve life I got ganked each and every time I went in a WH. If you get around to it... I would enjoy your thoughts on a Mining Barge (specifically a Mackinaw) I am 2 hours away from completing *Mining Barge 5*
Thank you! Check out my Wormhole 101 video too, just D-Scan like mad and be ready to run. As for mining barges, may be a ways away as I don't have skills for it on any characters yet, but it's something I'd love to cover.
I don't understand the mil/hour calculation. You are huffing C320 at rate of 16 units per 30 seconds => 1920 units per hour. Price per unit at the time of filming is apparently around 40k, which means total hourly profit below 80m. What am i missing? Also you said that this video was filmerd in C3 WH, but by the code of the wh in the video, it is C5.
Hi Captain. I copied the ship and it is working in general, but i reach a speed of 1.200 only while you get 2.100, that's weird. Do you use implants or other things influencing the speed?
@@captainbenzie oh that must be it, I am still in venture. One more question, where do you search for wormholes? Hi/low/null sec? I've been trying highsec but keep getting ganked.
Today was the first time I went gas huffing. Didn't quite get a full cargo hold but what I got was worth 60m. Not bad at all. I found two gas sites and both had or 6 enemy ships guarding them. I cleared them out with a Hawk and then went and got my prospect. My question is, is there always enemies guarding the gas sites? I didn't know, and being new at this, I warped my astero within 100m of the first gas site I found and lost my ship. Lesson learned.
Yes, as I say in this video, there are always enemies and they'll spawn 15-20 minutes after the first person warps to grid uncloaked. The only exception is the Ordinary Perimeter Reservoire, which has Sentry Guns already spawned that do an insane amount of alpha. For those you warp in cloaked, bookmark the cloud at range, warp back out, then warp in to the bookmark.
@Captain Benzie See that's what's weird. I expected a few ships to spawn in 15 but none did because their were already 6 ships there, not sentry guns. . This was the second gas site. The first one where I lost my ship was sentry guns. Also, I only see options to warp to a location from 0 to 100m. Can you warp to something say 200 or 500m out or is 100m the most you can do? Thanks captain. Love your content!!
@@eod5762 for warping i think 100km is max range, you can't warp any further. For gas sites: if you scan down gas sites and warp in, there should normaly be no enemies. Enemies/Npc spawn after 15 minutes if someone warped to the Gas site. What you found were gas sites where another player already huffed and left as soon as the NPC's got there. Thats why you saw NPC instantly beeing there, and thats why you always warp within 100km range in Gas Sites, you don't want to fly directly in their arms :)
Warped in at zero on a site that had rats. Never warp to zero if you don't know the site. May also have been an Ordinary Perimeter Reservoir, which requires special tactics (did a separate video)
I dont even get close to the speed you show with a afterburner in that fit. Is the numbers in the simulation wrong because my skills are almost maxed out. You get like 385% on your afterburner?? Probably its the wh speed bonus in that system or smth so yea..
Yeah, this exact top speed is from being in a Black Hole wormhole which does increase ship velocity. The exact speed doesn't matter though. In this case it's so fast that nothing hits me. Going slower, you still rarely have to cycle your shield because the damage is still so low. You can see my overall velocity in the fitting section.
@@captainbenzie Thankyou, I use to log in and spin my ship as I was bored but now I have set myself up so I can log in and do whatever content is available in my WH and connecting WHs
Why do you never put the fit in the comments in the video description? It is only copy and paste so that we can do the same and not have to search piece by piece
@@captainbenzie Thats cool, but I meant it as it would be nice for min/maxxers to have a video like this that also mentioned the implants and boosters you can use to max things out. I might be wrong I'm very new to the game. Just a though.
100 mil/h is kinda pitiful for a endgame nullsec player. I recommend this only for solo beginner players whos only alternative is to try and earn even more pitiful isk in hisec.
Excellent advice considering this isn't available in Hisec 😅 not everyone wants to be a Nullbear Krab. I try to show people different ways to have fun - ISK isn't everything
yeah you not making 100m isk per hour even with tier 2 scoops. its just not happening. the amount of time it takes to scan down a wormhole, then a gas cloud, + 15m timer on gas... you not making 100m per hour. never. ever ever. MAX 80m if absolutely everything goes your way.
You massively misunderstand the ISK/hr calculation. I'm assuming you're in a corp where scouts have found it, or you've found enough sites to run for a full hour. I'm not saying "log in for one hour and you'll get this" - simply "if one site takes 30 minutes and earns you 50m, then if you have two sites, that's 100m in an hour" Don't needlessly complicate basic maths 😉
-Suuuuuuper misleading. This method only works for 3 specific types of gas sites and even then there are caveats.- *Edit:* I must admit... I was wrong. Speed-tanking does work on all except the Ordinary Perimeter Reservoir. It was a bit tricky, had to be vigilant at all times to make sure I didn't get in the way of the rats, but it worked.
@@captainbenzie I don't understand how. Majority of the sites have frigate rats, which you can't outrun, and one of them has Sentry Towers, which will decimate you if you don't warp in cloaked (even if you warp in at 100 km). And you also conveniently showed gas huffing for the ONLY site that this method is perfect for. Convenient. Most people watching this video will be noobs like me and they will have only a month or two of skills while you possess years of it. Super misleading.
@@Scytale56 as I said, the Outpost is the one big exception, hence I've covered that elsewhere - that's the one with the turrets. The frigate sites are fine too. You're fast enough and small enough to only take minor damage, and the shield booster can keep up with that.
@@captainbenzie Grrrr... You're gonna make me lose my prospect, aren't you? Sigh, fine. I'll give the other sites a try with the same Speed Tanking method. I'll get back to you after some testing :P
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For viewers thinking about this in terms of isk per hour, you will still need significant time to scan for a wormhole, scan all the signatures. This is why Eve is not a solo game, if you have active explorers in a corp sharing this information, you huff as a group, tip the finder so they make a bit more for the scanning effort.
Agreed. I do discuss the ISK/hr including scanning at the end, but certainly, having a corp with scouts and tripwire makes it MUCH easier.
In my alliance I run wormhole operations we just had a single mining op with only 3 players showing up and made a billion isk in 5 hours it was the best gas site in the game and we ninja mined it no combat at all the sleepers don’t even Afro on you
It’s not terribly hard as you put it, I live in a c5 wormhole, I scan chains down all the time by myself and find many gas sites by myself
If you scanned wh in the system you live in, get in and check whatvs there. If gas, take a huffer and sniff it in, if relic/data - hack it in an explorer ship. If non - do something else.
If you are not dedicating yourself to finding a gas sig, but only use opportunity, it will not take that much time at all.
yeah but interacting with people? ew.
There's an even safer way to do the sites for some of them, in the vast, bountiful, instrumental and vital reservoirs, the main gas cloud is large enough that you can set a bookmark 300km from where the rats spawn (in the middle of the site, where you warp in) and still be in range of the gas cloud, you'll be able to huff in peace without the rats even aggroing on you.
Chameleon Huffing ☺️
You gotta be careful though cause if you huff and then downtime happens it will shrink your cloud so you're in range of the rats.
Nice tip
Love these beginner videos! I’m actually a new player who has tried to play the game for years now. But every time I get demotivated, since I’ve seen your series on Eve Online I haven’t stopped since 3 weeks! Keep te content coming, cause there’s still a lot to learn for me!
That's awesome, I'm glad I've been able to help and inspire!
Im watching this now because I'm in the same situation as you lmao keep wanting to try but then way too overwhelming
Hey I have the exact same thing, tried eve multiple times for over 5 years but never got to understand what I was doing and gave up, now I am 4th day in a row and starting to get the hang of it mostly because these videos as well
i just want to say thank you for the fit and video. i just had a vedmak warp in on me and lock me down with web, warp scram and neut. i had to manage my cap but he never got me out of half shields and i was able to warp to my safe spot just as his buddy in an astero warped in, so thank you very much. i love your videos and look forward to more. keep up the good work and fly safe sir.
Excellent!! What a rush!!
As beginner noob instead level 1/2 combat missions did wh gas huffing with Venture.
Got ganked once but still managed to pay for cruiser, BS etc..
Nowedays i take a prospect for a fun ride because it has bigger cargo space and ofcourse covert ops.
Still Venture would be still a good choise for the job.
Do not forget to bookmark the wh where you come from and carry extra set of probes.
Yup!
And remember, if you see someone doing this, it's bait. There's 3 cloaked Proteus following every Prospect.
😂
Except they can't cloak in a gas cloud
Just a comment on the fit - Cap Flux Coils are for passive shield tanking. If you want better cap recharge you want Cap Power Relays instead. I opted to fit one CPR II and one PDS II instead. I like using the PDS as it gives quite a few little bonusses, and with the slight lift in the amount of extra cap you get and the cap recharge it works out surprisingly well. With these two items in the low slots I am cap stable (I do have good engineering skills though).
Good tips!
Im from Zim also , been playing Eve since 2006 , never come across anyone else in zim playing till now :)
Oh fantastic! Whereabouts? I'm not in Zim anymore, now back in the UK, but was in Vic Falls for three years, and Bulawayo for four.
I just now realized that both Warp Core Optimizers and Inertial Stabilizers negatively impact signature radius. Well, damn... there go my old fittings (only really used them in high sec previously).
As such, I made a new fit that compares favorably with the one featured here in a few ways:
- sub 3s align time from stationary;
- is a lot harder to scan down by probes (22,74 sensor strength for me);
- has a warp stabilizer that can mitigate one basic scram;
- is faster by 26,4m/s before activating the AB (2785,8 m/s max speed with AB for me).
Downsides:
- no shield resistance bonuses;
- 42% worse targeting range and scan resolution (it still has 543 mm of resolution, so I don't see this as an actual problem);
- only 58s of cap (without the warp stab) - this is probably the main downside but, with nearly 2,79km/s (i.e. over 10k km/h), it should be able to speed tank just fine with the booster only being used occasionally (without the booster/stab it's cap stable at 42% for me, so it should recharge quickly if some care is taken).
Mind you, I do have most of the relevant skills maxed out, so this fit may not be useful to you if you don't, as it's very tight (0.7 power grid to spare).
Here's the fit:
[Prospect, WH Gas Huffing]
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I
Sensor Booster II
Small Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster
10MN Afterburner II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Gas Cloud Scoop II
Gas Cloud Scoop II
Small Auxiliary Thrusters II
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing II
ECCM Script x1
If you don't use a separate ship for scanning, feel free to replace the Small Auxiliary Thrusters II with a Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I (sadly the T2 version doesn't quite fit). Likewise, if you absolutely want to be cap stable, you could always replace the shield booster with a Small Azeotropic Restrained Shield that doesn't impact your sig radius while giving you a passive shield regen of 8 hp/s and 5110 ehp.
Truth be told, in terms of damage mitigation, Benzie's fit is far superior, but I feel that making it harder for gankers to scan you down, having
Nice to see you play with the fit! I should say that most gankers, especially in J-Space, won't scan you down. They'll scan the sites (if they're not already bookmarked) and will D-Scan to see which one you're in. You'll find that most gankers warping in will struggle because they don't want to fight the Sleepers, and can't move to you cloaked due to the gas.
As such, align time is kinda all that actually matters for survival! 😅
@@captainbenzie That's quite interesting information, cap'n! If that's the case, said ganker won't drop on top of the ship - hence giving us plenty of time to gtfo. If only Inertial Stabilizers wouldn't bloom the sig. >.>
started eve 2months back, im in null corp and i easily gain 500mil a day semi-afk huffing myko gas for few hours, sometimes around 800mil if i get a Lime Myko gas site, two ventures with syndicate gas scoops, I tried WH gas huffing but realized WH gas ain't giving much isk + it can't be played semi-afk.. I just keep eye on local and do my office work while huffing in null.. I'm happy I found gas huffing so early in the game, I was just trying it out with a corp mate and i loved it since.. suits well to my semi-afk playstyle..
Glad you've found something you enjoy! For me, that thrill of being hunted is what makes it all so much fun, though!
If I wanted to play EVE and live the most boring life possible, I would live in Null. Then I wouldn't even play, how is it fun for you just sitting there doing nothing? If you're making 500/mill afk it's either because you have a shit ton of alts or you're literally sitting there for hours and hours every single day. Either way you're response has nothing to do with this video since you WILL make more in wh then null.
nice I found that even doing 250 m/s around the cloud some of those sleepers are not doing much damage - this fit works for low risk loss
Warped to the gas cloud and was immediately destroyed by sleeping sentinels...nice!
Always warp at range, or be prepared to warp out quickly if you don't know if the rats have spawned.
@@captainbenzie Second attempt was a major success! Warped in at range and huffed 78 million isk worth. More than made up for my prior mistake. Thanks!
I think having a probe scanner on, if it fits is really useful if the wormhole collapses on you.
Erit: on a Venture
You should never enter a wormhole that has less than four hours on it anyway.
@@captainbenzie some can roll wh close! :) and if it is big enough AU you won't even see it coming even when use D-scan. Scan is a thing, esp. when Venture cargo holds expensive gas :D
I could only imagine the horror of going into a wormhole doing your thing and then when you return it’s gone
If you r really good at it project discovery gives you ~200k every minute
200k*60=12 million
and u can do this while mining or warping so it's basically free money
Edit: Unfortunately, devs saw this and you can only submit some every day. But still a lot of money
Yup, Project Discovery video is also on the way!
I love huffing gas. I love exploring and the ninja aspect of gas huffing. Mining bores the crap out of me. I just got into a prospector 🖤🖤🖤
Ninja huffing always felt like the cowards way out, running away as soon as the rats spawn. So Jedi Huffing seemed much cooler, sticking the middle finger up to a fleet up sleepers whilst you casually orbit and suck up all the gas 😂
Thanks Captain for another great vid. Looks like something i'll have to train into!
Hope you enjoy!!
Just so you know the aggro range of the sleepers is about 250km range. SO since the cloud is so big you can burn to the outer edge of it and huff outta aggro range. You legit don't even have to move.
Chameleon Huffing ❤️
if youre not in danger of being killed by anyone. you really should use the T1 gas scoops. T2 gives you residue. the T1's do not. this means while yes the T2 are faster. you dont get as much isk from them.
True, depending on how much time you have also
Buddy please stop giving bad advice, you never want to use t1's over t2's unless you're the brokest of broke boys.
I love the Prospect’s design!
Me too! Such a cool ship!
I found a wormhole group to run with after watching this video and it’s been such great isk I run 2 accounts and the other members have a porpoise to benefit everyone
Glad you're enjoying!!
Is there still a market for gas? I'm a bit confused. Before investing time I had a quick look at the marketplace. No orders to sell most types and small buy orders. Am I missing something? \o/
@@chaosparticles might be your local market. I make bank off gas
@captainbenzie ...ahhh, cool. So, I'm looking too close to my newbie home. Thank you!
@@chaosparticles You need to go to the trade hubs...not just anywhere in hisec.
GAS HUFFING BENZIE IS THE CONTENT IM HERE FOR !!!!!!
Haha thank you 😂
You only need to initiate warp to a gas site for the timer to start for the sleepers. You don't need to actually warp to it. Might throw some people off and make them wonder why npc's are there if they did that and only thought you had to actually warp to the site.
This is false, as if you manage to warp and stay cloaked the rats will never spawn. It's only once you are decloaked on grid, if rats spawned it means someone else has warped there, rats also very random with times up to 30 mins and as little as 14 minutes.
@@umadbroimatroll7918 I've never tried it with cloak enabled. But we do it all the time without so we can have the site runners kill them before our other guys go harvest. Good to know.
@@javajoecupofcoffee6816 yeah I warped to 100 at a site to wait for the rats in my proteus, 40 mins later and I'm thinking man this is a new record for rat spawn, but then 1 hour goes by and I decide to just start harvesting, thinking someone else killed the rats, like 16 mins later they spawned
UMADBRO is correct here. You need to land on grid to initiate.
And if they are there NINJA. Just never go to an ordinary gas site you get BLAPPED
I'm having an issue with my setup, fitting is exactly the same as this one in the video except i put 2x small poly engine housing II instead of small poly engine housing I. My problem is when i orbit a gas cloud (or ore or anything else) my ship does not stay within the 1500m range if my afterburner is on, seems it cannot turn fast enough to stay that close unless i turn off the afterburner (which leases me slow and vulnerable) Maybe my evasive maneuvering skill is too low? its only lvl 2 atm. also my base speed is 539.4 not 554.4 like in the vid
Yes, you need higher agility to maintain the orbit at that speed
Gas huffing in a venture is some of the best money you can earn in eve if you are an alpha clone
Absolutely and it's not too risky either if you know what you're doing!
i lived in a C3 for about 4 days mined for about 12hours each day.. i think as a newbie alpha with minmal skills i was doing 20-30mil depending on if it was C3 or C5 gas
Excellent!!
is that 20-30 mil per 1 hour or 12 hours?
@@2000roentgens that'll be per hour
@@2000roentgens thats per load the 20-30mil. in a venture took like an hour to fill up. dont think i was boosted or yeah. was alota alpha solo mining
I wish ee could just take a slight look at these things so our beginners finally get something to do...
Yeah, I know, right!!
this is amazing hahaha, i dont know how you got to 2.3 k m/s with only an afterburner, i had to go with a mwd, but currently there are 5 sleepers chasing me 20 mins ago just going round and round they cant even fire XD
It's a Black Hole system so big boosts to velocity, but you don't need that. About 1100m/s is enough
Good video, but I'm a little confused! If you're not going to get caught by the sleepers, surely you'd have to be orbiting the cloud at 100+ km from it's centre? How do you do that with gas scoops with 1500 m range and 22 km targeting? What am I missing? Has something changed in the last 3 to 6 months?
When you orbit a gas cloud, you orbit the centre point, but that's not where you have to be in range of for harvesting
@@captainbenzie That's cool,
but to target/lock the cloud... do you have to be (in my case)
@@chaosparticles yes, you essentially will orbit the perimeter at the range. So set the range within 1500m and you'll be fine.
@@captainbenzie Thank you!
Do I need a prospect for it or can I use a Venture?
A venture is not fast enough to Jedi Huff, but can be used for gas huffing if you ninja huff, basically warp in, watch for the rat spawn then flee THE SECOND they spawn.
@@captainbenzie Thank you for that. I am a new player to EVE online and just did my first gas huff run today, learned from your tutorials about J space and Ninja huffing.
I make about 2.5 billion huffing every 30 days, on top of my regular mining for building ships.
Nice!
Huffing gas in k-space is also extremely profitable. Just today i was lucky and huffed about half a bil of mykoserocin
It's especially profitable if you know what regions to huff in too.
True
CB so do you just travel through the gas cloud until you find something to click on?
I have the ship/scoops/ and scanning skill but I’m having trouble finding something to click on. I don’t know how to add gas to my overview
Open your overview settings, then scroll to harvestable materials, and make sure gas is selected, or download an existing overview. I use the Signal Cartel one.
MWD also increases your sig radius.
Hello! Maybe I missed something, but where is the fit listed? And where I was very curious, how did you got ~2200m/s speed with 1MN afterburners? If a 10Mn was fitted, what did you changed in the fit?
The 2200m/s is because I'm in a Black Hole system. It normally hits 1200m/s which is enough
I was so curious of this myself. I have really good skills and was sitting at 1300+ on my speed and 32 sig. Sleepers warped in and were blasting me. Webbed and Nueted me almost perished. 😂
@@Mcappo well 1100 is fast enough so you just did somethign else wrong.
@@dudewheresmycar6318 something wrong? I was webbed and neuted so not much you can do but warp off. Thanks.
Tried this fitting with all the correct skills and my speed tops out at 1222 m/s. Was curious how you managed to get yours to 2153 m/s? Are there any other skills that help with it?
I'm in a Black Hole J-Space system. Don't worry too much about the speed I'm getting - 1222 is really good!
Did not know you live in Rhodesia. Nice!
I don't live in Zimbabwe anymore sadly, moved back to the UK last July
You have in the Vid BS chasing you wont the frigs just catch you or are you only staying in if BS spawn >?
The frigs don't break my tank if you're far enough away. Frigate heavy sites can't be jedi huffed though
4:10 oh and 'Jedi huffing' ... my main is from 2008... never heard this to this day. Lets check other gas tutorials. I am confident they use the term all the time.
Cause Jedi's are known to be *stealthy* ... with those BRIGHT GLOWING swords and all that... super sneaky.
A credible name would be *Ninja Huffing* i suppose ... but how else you get the Disney growd lel! Remember calling your ship 'Huffing Falcon' ;)
He found so many clouds in only 20 parsec! He just chew-i-ed them up. Selling you must, in Jita, best price you will find! (ok i am done :p
Jedi and Ninja Huffing are two different things.
Ninja Huffing (I've gone a video on it too) is warping to a site and warping off as soon as the rats spawn.
Jedi Huffing is when you build to speed tank the rats, like a Jedi deflecting all the shots with a lightsaber. I'm not a Star Wars fan, I didn't invent the term 😅
I have a feeling you didn't even watch the video before you typed this out, cause it makes no sense.
With the fitting of the modules I seem to only have one module free in the low slot and not like you 4. Is there a way to get more slots?
Are you using the Prospect? The slots on any ship are fixed.
Brilliant vid I’ve found it really helpful
Glad to hear! Good luck out there! o7
With the recent gas market crash and changes are you going to revamp this video? June saw a big permanent drop in the gas prices due to ship construction. Personally I don't know why the booster gases dropped too? I assume it is a panicked market, hoping the boosters rebound this fall. I am still causally scooping the boosters in 0.4 LS as my alpha. I am making about 1 billion per month doing this very casually. Still a solid mining video but people will have to put in more hours, if they plan to keep huffing gas in WHs. Back when I was WH huffing, I was living in the wormhole owned by Wormlife, and used my destroyer to clear out those nasty NPC rats. Yes I even nailed the 5 sentry turrets at the Ordinary Perimeter Reservoir with my destroyer, it takes practice and makes it fun.
Not sure it needs updating as I'm only talking methodology here ☺️
how to collect gas for newbies - easy! Just get a couple of skills to 5 level, which takes a month and more than 100 millions
Newbies TO GAS HARVESTING. This isn't a "Day One" video, it's something to aim towards. "Here's how to do the thing" not "Here's something you can do on day one", at no point did I even insinuate that it was day one 😂
Hi, ty for guide. One question. Does some npc have warp scramblers? I like to use micro warp drive, and that would ruin me.
Yes they do
MWD are only meant for short bursts of speed, not for prolonged use. Remember that they also make your signature radius bigger so you don't become harder to hit with an MWD on, you actually become EASIER.
@@captainbenzie Ok, thank you!
So with this fit I had a couple scouts and an "Awakened" something warp in on me. Got me down to about half shields and then after the first web got on me I nopped out. Maybe that was just an unfortunate spawn?
That's the rats spawning 😊
@@captainbenzie Yah, I just was not seeing the damage mitigation so I was not sure if it was just a rarer strong spawn or something.
Are the frigate or cruiser rats a problem?
No, you have the tank to handle them.
huffing and puffing :)
😂
how do you manage to orbit at 800 with 2k speed? my character exceeds the 1500m range for scoop as soon as i turn on my afterburners while trying to orbit at 500m. how come?
Agility. I've trained into big agility skills that help me keep the orbit.
Funny enough you sometimes can you the sleeper BS to protect yourself against someone trying to kill you
Yup!
what WH size did U use it in C3 - C6 ??
This video is a C3.
moving that to sell is the hard part
Yup!!
How do you sell for anything other than small change? I have, according to my ship inventory, 6 million isk after my first ever wormhole dip. Got out, went to sell at trader and was only offered 35k!! How do I get even near that amount?
if I train a huffing alt up - is it worth bringing it in as a hole scout while running combat sites in my Tengu then shifting to letting the tengu act as a cloaked defense and huffing the gase?
That can be a good option!
How would he be a scout if he's huffing gas? That makes no sense.
@@dudewheresmycar6318 because you’re in a system and can keep an eye on dscan for ships coming into the hole, and if you see something interesting, you can have your PvP acct jump in very easily
How in the world can you orbit at 1500m at 2100m/s?
Good skills and I'm in a black hole system
@Captain Benzie: How long does it take to find a WH that has a gas site in it? I've been scanning for hours and haven't found one yet, only data or relic sites so far. Am I just unlucky?
The game loves doing this to me 😅 if I log in on my main character, I'll find only gas. If I log in on my gas huffer I'll find combat and relic/data... It is just bad luck. You'll find sites eventually!
@@captainbenzie damn my luck then! It also means that gas huffing may not always be the right activity if you only have 2 hours or so to spare to play EVE, does it?
@@YanickGirouard Gas huffing is best if you already live in a wormhole, cause the connections to K-space usually have people that already huffed t he gas.
Huffing gas is addicting lol
Ain't that the truth!!
Was trying to make that fit to 2000m/s - it doesnt, only in certain wh, with speed bonuses I think. It goes 1300, isnt that too slow for this ship?
No. 1200m/s is enough. I'm going this fast because I'm in a Black Hole.
Just for extra information on the lowest end its 10million but you should get 20million/hour on average as a alpha
Can i still kiting the Sleeper BS in 2024 as a Prospect?
Yes
Did the exact fitting and my ship's speed tops at 1150 m/s - Am I doing something wrong?
This is in a Black Hole system so additional speed comes from that. 1150m/s will still be plenty ☺️
And by the time you actually locate the gas the ISK per hour drops significantly due to just finding the gas. Better off making 40M ISK/hr hi sec mining with an Orca and a Hulk.
This is why you join a wormhole corp and stop trying to solo an MMO 😉
Got the same fit but only going 1200 m/s with the 1MNAfterburnerII. Whats the catch ? thanks
The 1200m/s is enough. I'm doing the speeds I am because I'm in a Black Hole system
ohh got it thanks @@captainbenzie
Great Vid... seems I have stumbled onto most of your suggestions by accident.
I am saving your build, but I am seriously paranoid about wormholes.... In my early *early* eve life I got ganked each and every time I went in a WH.
If you get around to it... I would enjoy your thoughts on a Mining Barge (specifically a Mackinaw) I am 2 hours away from completing *Mining Barge 5*
Thank you! Check out my Wormhole 101 video too, just D-Scan like mad and be ready to run.
As for mining barges, may be a ways away as I don't have skills for it on any characters yet, but it's something I'd love to cover.
I don't understand the mil/hour calculation. You are huffing C320 at rate of 16 units per 30 seconds => 1920 units per hour. Price per unit at the time of filming is apparently around 40k, which means total hourly profit below 80m. What am i missing? Also you said that this video was filmerd in C3 WH, but by the code of the wh in the video, it is C5.
Looks like the price has changed then
Hi Captain. I copied the ship and it is working in general, but i reach a speed of 1.200 only while you get 2.100, that's weird. Do you use implants or other things influencing the speed?
No, I'm in a Black Hole system so the speed is massively increased. You don't need to be 2100 m/s fast though 😉
@@captainbenzie got it. Ty
when I orbit gas cloud it keeps going out of range for the scoops, what am I doing wrong?
You may not have the required inertia to keep the range required when orbiting. Manually lower your speed.
@@captainbenzie oh that must be it, I am still in venture. One more question, where do you search for wormholes? Hi/low/null sec? I've been trying highsec but keep getting ganked.
@@drawmaster77 in a Venture you can't Jedi Huff. Best thing to do is just sit still 😊
to what speed would you recommend? having the same issue in a prospect @@captainbenzie
at 4:36 it shows max speed with ab 1233.88m/s so how do you go over 2000m/s ?
Black Hole system. The 1200 is enough normally though
@@captainbenzie oh awesome, thanks! i was afraid i was doing something wrong haha xD
@@morrari690 haha no, I really should have pointed it out in the video
Thanks I just started the game and I want to be an explorer :) listen to my music watch some channels whilst i Huff Gas and ore 👍👍
Awesome! Good luck, and I hope that I can help! Exploration is a big feature on my channel!!
Wormhole video says its private when I click the link just a heads up
Weird... Should be working?
ua-cam.com/video/KXchl0usz5M/v-deo.html
@@captainbenzie Appears to be working now! thanks for the link!
Do you have to be omega to do this ?
Gas, no, you can use a Venture. But the Venture can't Jedi Huff like the Prospect can.
Would you say that Gas huffing even in a venture is more valuable than standard mining as a general rule?
For direct personal "sell on the market" ISK? Absolutely.
Today was the first time I went gas huffing. Didn't quite get a full cargo hold but what I got was worth 60m. Not bad at all. I found two gas sites and both had or 6 enemy ships guarding them. I cleared them out with a Hawk and then went and got my prospect. My question is, is there always enemies guarding the gas sites? I didn't know, and being new at this, I warped my astero within 100m of the first gas site I found and lost my ship. Lesson learned.
Yes, as I say in this video, there are always enemies and they'll spawn 15-20 minutes after the first person warps to grid uncloaked. The only exception is the Ordinary Perimeter Reservoire, which has Sentry Guns already spawned that do an insane amount of alpha. For those you warp in cloaked, bookmark the cloud at range, warp back out, then warp in to the bookmark.
@Captain Benzie See that's what's weird. I expected a few ships to spawn in 15 but none did because their were already 6 ships there, not sentry guns. . This was the second gas site. The first one where I lost my ship was sentry guns. Also, I only see options to warp to a location from 0 to 100m. Can you warp to something say 200 or 500m out or is 100m the most you can do? Thanks captain. Love your content!!
@@eod5762 for warping i think 100km is max range, you can't warp any further.
For gas sites: if you scan down gas sites and warp in, there should normaly be no enemies.
Enemies/Npc spawn after 15 minutes if someone warped to the Gas site.
What you found were gas sites where another player already huffed and left as soon as the NPC's got there. Thats why you saw NPC instantly beeing there, and thats why you always warp within 100km range in Gas Sites, you don't want to fly directly in their arms :)
first attempt at this, I warp in and immediately get tackled and blown up by npcs. what did I do wrong??
Warped in at zero on a site that had rats. Never warp to zero if you don't know the site. May also have been an Ordinary Perimeter Reservoir, which requires special tactics (did a separate video)
my 100mill sp character cant do this, what am i doing wrong?
Need more details as to what you can't do
Where do you empty your cargo when it is full?
Personally, my home station where I then pack it into a DST for transit.
You didn't like mining? Glad to know you arnt artistic
I'm definitely not artistic, but if you meant "autistic", I absolutely am 😊
@@captainbenzie lmao. You are now because you like mining. Welcome to the club
I dont even get close to the speed you show with a afterburner in that fit. Is the numbers in the simulation wrong because my skills are almost maxed out. You get like 385% on your afterburner?? Probably its the wh speed bonus in that system or smth so yea..
Yeah, this exact top speed is from being in a Black Hole wormhole which does increase ship velocity. The exact speed doesn't matter though. In this case it's so fast that nothing hits me. Going slower, you still rarely have to cycle your shield because the damage is still so low.
You can see my overall velocity in the fitting section.
What sites can you do this on?
Most of them, just some - like the Ordinary Perimeter Reservoire - require a bit of setup.
@@captainbenzie Thankyou, I use to log in and spin my ship as I was bored but now I have set myself up so I can log in and do whatever content is available in my WH and connecting WHs
How are you going 2k+ when I tried this I noticed I'm going like 1.2k speed?
In this case, because I'm in a Black Hole J-Space system.
@@captainbenzie okay, thanks for the response.
Hi Benzie, the wormhole 101 vid is set to private, cap'n sir
I've checked and it should now be working. Weird, as the video was definitely public.
ua-cam.com/video/KXchl0usz5M/v-deo.html
Why do you never put the fit in the comments in the video description? It is only copy and paste so that we can do the same and not have to search piece by piece
I have done in almost all of my videos. Just missed it on this one
@@captainbenzie Nope, never. I read it on the internet!
So.. like .10 usd per hour sounds fun
It is if you consider EVE as a game, not a second job. Sometimes it's about the joy, not the ISK 😉
Lo lgas huffer.
😉
Thanks for the great video. Can you also share the fit?
would love to see implants too.
None on this character. Almost all of my fits are shown with zero implants.
@@captainbenzie Thats cool, but I meant it as it would be nice for min/maxxers to have a video like this that also mentioned the implants and boosters you can use to max things out. I might be wrong I'm very new to the game. Just a though.
100 mil/h is kinda pitiful for a endgame nullsec player. I recommend this only for solo beginner players whos only alternative is to try and earn even more pitiful isk in hisec.
Excellent advice considering this isn't available in Hisec 😅 not everyone wants to be a Nullbear Krab. I try to show people different ways to have fun - ISK isn't everything
yeah you not making 100m isk per hour even with tier 2 scoops. its just not happening. the amount of time it takes to scan down a wormhole, then a gas cloud, + 15m timer on gas... you not making 100m per hour. never. ever ever. MAX 80m if absolutely everything goes your way.
You massively misunderstand the ISK/hr calculation.
I'm assuming you're in a corp where scouts have found it, or you've found enough sites to run for a full hour.
I'm not saying "log in for one hour and you'll get this" - simply "if one site takes 30 minutes and earns you 50m, then if you have two sites, that's 100m in an hour"
Don't needlessly complicate basic maths 😉
-Suuuuuuper misleading. This method only works for 3 specific types of gas sites and even then there are caveats.-
*Edit:* I must admit... I was wrong. Speed-tanking does work on all except the Ordinary Perimeter Reservoir. It was a bit tricky, had to be vigilant at all times to make sure I didn't get in the way of the rats, but it worked.
It's worked on every single gas site I've ever run except the Ordinary, which I've detailed elsewhere.
@@captainbenzie I don't understand how. Majority of the sites have frigate rats, which you can't outrun, and one of them has Sentry Towers, which will decimate you if you don't warp in cloaked (even if you warp in at 100 km). And you also conveniently showed gas huffing for the ONLY site that this method is perfect for. Convenient.
Most people watching this video will be noobs like me and they will have only a month or two of skills while you possess years of it.
Super misleading.
@@Scytale56 as I said, the Outpost is the one big exception, hence I've covered that elsewhere - that's the one with the turrets.
The frigate sites are fine too. You're fast enough and small enough to only take minor damage, and the shield booster can keep up with that.
@@captainbenzie Grrrr... You're gonna make me lose my prospect, aren't you? Sigh, fine.
I'll give the other sites a try with the same Speed Tanking method. I'll get back to you after some testing :P
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