Kill Team Shadowvaults is Great but...
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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Since it's a Space Hulk, it's multiple ships mashed together. I had hoped for some xenos ship interiors for some of the Kill Team Gallowdark stuff. Maybe some Tau or Necron interiors, Ork stuff, or some Chaos influenced ships
I was hoping for a Kroot War Sphere, it would be new and interesting.
I agree with this, feel they've missed a trick!
What they said!
They did it this way, so a non 40K player would have everything they need to play a 500 point 40K boarding action game. A sneaky way to grow their 40K base.
That’s a really good point. Tau interior would be awesome!!
' I don't paint many models with light colours.'
The 5000 points of ORANGE and WHITE necrons
Would love to see a battle report on this when you and Nick get a chance to play!
I would prefer the same theme, but different terrain. The way they announced they will do it.
"I don't usually paint light color" Jay who has a 5k points army of white necrons
Jay: I don't have many light coloured models
5000 points of white necrons: ...
15000 points of black templars: All things are relative I suppose.
My thoughts exactly 😂
I don’t know how they would pull it off, but I was hoping for the four boxes to have different styles to it, but still be able to be connected together so you could have a part Imperial and part, let’s say, Eldar or Necron.
Actually the sprues for the scatter terrain are different between boxes.
Just wanted to say that the Heavy keyword on the Deathmarks is actually worse than what you said it was. Cumbersome is the word you were thinking of, where you can't move more than 6" or 3Circle and shoot. Heavy is you can only take a dash action and shoot, it says "can't take a move, fall back, or charge in the same activation which it shoots this weapon." Also Kroot Hounds actually can pick up objectives with their special action, and it kind of the whole draw to use them. They get a crazy 8" move and can pick up for free during that movement. Perfect for keeping in the back to snatch something up just before the enemy gets it. Great video, Jay!
My brother in law and I tried some kill team for the first time over the weekend. It's so much fun! I think I like it more than 40K
Sadly the Deathmark can't shoot in the same turn it teleported because of the Heavy rule 😞
It's surprising that liz truss lasted longer than something!
You should try an urban white, grey, and black shatter camo scheme.
I'd prefer similar but different terrain. E.g. different parts of the spaceship. Or speciality rooms.
Shadowvaults and into the dark both look great but I'm content to wait for the next gallowdark Kill-Team box if the terrain will be the same
👍👍I wouldn't normally FOMO but I'm kind of tempted to get this set! Welcome to EOB, I'm Kasrkin and also Nec is here! 😃
Might be hard to get a copy there was only one wave of it and pretty much impossible to find a box.
I was expecting some of the sprues to be the same, but I am disappointed that only one sprue was different. I think I would have been happier if 2 or 3 sprues were different.
Maroon would look dope on the kaserkin
Great video Jay! I believe the kommando grot can also take actions and capture objectives as a little guy :)
If the warp is supposed to smash ships together, they could include different walls in each box.
the terrain should be the same flavor ice cream, but the little knick knacks and troops should be the different toppings
The difference between scions and karskin, is that one of them is good in kill team, the other in 40k, and you have to buy both XD
Why the hell are they pushing "Flat Kill team" when everyone agrees those skirmish games are most fun with multi-level terrain and building pieces
The issue for me is that if they sell the figures themselves separately, that they need to make the rules available either in the new box or free online. If you wanted last years kill teams without the boxed set, you had to track down their rules separately.
I clicked like for the Chumbawamba reference
Jay:"Maybe because only having six operatives that can do things would be to low"
Custodes, legionaries, Phobos strike team, and every other elite kill team: bruh
The main difference with the elite teams is that everyone gets 3 apl to start with rather than only the cryptek, like in the hierotek circle
The twin heavy bolter pretty much has the old twin linked rule. It re rolls all hits. Of the top of my head I think the rule is called ruthless
Advice on painting the necrons never done yet
Tempestus Scions are an elite fighting force of infantry, Kasrkin are an elite fighting force of infantry from Cadia.. very very different!
Jay, love your videos, love the channel. I used your silly putty trick to mask off some white pauldrons it worked great. However, I left the putty on too long (like a month) and I stained my white pink. Lesson learned lol
15:25 “despotek” sounds like a Cobra character from GI Joe.
The space dwarf tank looks like a GI Joe toy too come to think of it.
All of the recently teased Imperial Guard stuff has a strong GI Joe vibe to me.
For example "Kill team rules I always forget about" "building an army" etc. :3 btw love your videos and MMW
Can you please make an video now you build and paint your kill team.
Well, you actually can't shoot with dethmark after deploying him for dimensional translocation. Because it says "that operative is treated as having performed a normal move action". And shooting with heavy weapon after the normal move is prohibited. It doesn't matter, how much distance that move actually was.
I don't mind same terrain for this box, but I hope the next 2 are different to keep it fresh
I'm hoping they did the first two boxes matching to make boards for the 500-pt Boarding Action 40K games, and they plan to mix it up with the remaining boxes. If I had my way, we'd get one Necron set, and one Nurgley set for the second half of the year!
This dude could roast you so hard all with a smile and cheery voice 😂
My god he is like a canary in a mineshaft that's just inexplicably tough. If he is ever done Ive no chance.
I would like to see the terrain change every 2 boxes giving enough terrain in 2 boxes for a game of 40k Boarding Action.
I played my wyrmblade against the karskin last night and got completely crushed. The "elite points" ability that let's them modify shooting and attack rolls got me really salty, it seemed incredibly broken.
I don't like any of the guards faces in this kit, but they are beautiful sculpts. I'm so torn! Great video as always man
See like I know it's not unique but I still really want the contents of this, so I'll probably get it for krimba off of Amazon
Just bought and build shadowvaults. $137 in oak ridge
My LGS called me while was holding my phone, thinking about calling them, because i was watching your video knowing that i had asked them to preorder it for me, and they called me and said it was in. 😀So i have it now and it's very cool.
Yes, they are marine guys, they are, if you will, space marines... They are space marines...
would love a video where you play the new Necrons Kill Team and explain how they play :)
Can we get a 2022 kill team video of what to buy and why with the updated rules!! I use the other videos you made as a lot of reference but GW keep updating things!
Shadowvaults didn't even get a japan release, fuck us over here.
Its to compensate for all the cool exclusive releases from other things you guys get ;)
I’m having a heck of a time finding one…. I wonder what happened???
Well the réanimation protocalls are kinda tricky placements and aura to have or CP costing to have, they're not on everyone ;)
Since this video has come out, Shadowvaults has been removed from the GW webstore in Australia. I guess its just quietly going away. This will be the first box I've missed.
I wouldn't know cause I couldn't get mine, I thought they'd be on the store for ages since Into The Dark is STILL there
Kill Team Shadowvaults is Great but it is unjustifiably expensive. It's like saying 'Bently is Great but...' But! But Bently is not plastic dudes.
Yeah, a bentley would need a parking space, costs a lot of fuel and taxes. Plastic dudes cost none of that.
@@mycatistypingthis5450 looking at 5 painted collections and me sleeping on a small door carpet. Yeap.
Looking at back issues of WD, full squads of six Storm troopers used to sell at £5, with the Heavy Weapons teams at the same price and the special weapons guy and Sargent at £2.50.
What a difference going public makes to a company.
I'm glad they repeated the terrain for this box, need 2 sets for new 40k option, also want next sets to match but be different, as in matches but other options / rooms. Also great they're both shooting kill teams otherwise teams would all just be used on gallowdark - limited crossover.
I was hoping for compatible wall terrain but with different racial greebles like Aeldar, Ork, or especially Chaos.
I personally don't agree with the plasma pistol OR power weapon. It makes zero sense that a vet. sgt. couldn't have both. Customisability should be paramount to create "your dudes". Balance should adjust to meet that imo, not enforcing models to be unable to do logical things that basically every guard leader could do for decades in lore and in tabletop.
Love your stuff eons
would love to see jay and friends make a video of a kill team game
Could it be the Into The Dark was 50 days late and Shadow Vault was on time? Hmmm
Are there rules for normal necron warriors?
Gw is not a bad company at all.. they are just justified with their actions and being that of an exclusive company with the patient of an old man
Love kill team stuff
General Kenobi!
Every box should have unique terrain and, if not the core rules, then the potted rules from the started set.
Was able to get the last box at my flgs. They told me that gw doesn't print new ones. So sold out. Looks like a limited release
15:45 that proprietary measurement shit is weird. I miss kill team when it was “yo dawg, just bring 200 points of guys and each model is it’s own unit”
I think this release was rushed due to a perfect storm of bad time management- new Guard codex, Into the Dark was late, AND you need two sets of the space hulk terrain for the upcoming w40k "boarding actions" campaign, so people need to buy and paint it before it comes out. I love the look of both teams and I'd totally buy the box except that it still hasn't gone up for preorder yet here in Japan.....
Are the shapes instead of Inches because a lot of the world use metric measurements?
So Nick will be playing Necrons. Nickrons. This was meant to be.
I think Ill get into the Dark and skip this. Id like them to do another space hulk set but with a specially designed Tyranid killteam so I can have an Alien theme going.
Please make kill team beginner videos. I need help making a death guard kill team.
You have a ton of 40K stuff but what is your choice Necromunda gang if you have one?
I think the lore difference between Kasrkin and Scions is that Scions are like special forces in general where there’s entire regiments of various special forces, and Kasrkin (even more so after Abe threw a tantrum and blew up their planet) jerk themselves off as “the few, the proud, the Kasrkin” aka the only guys camping cover as hard as Dorns golden boys.
Just let me buy the terrain separately for not my firstborn child. Ty James.
The two things I like about this box are the Kasrkin and the Space Hulk terrain. The Necrons whilst the upgrade sprue is lovely… having a low model count compared to every other Kill Team just doesn’t do it for me They should’ve gave you 10 Immortals/Deathmarks or Necron Warriors with a slick new Upgrade Sprue.
Eh still more then marines
Still better than yet more marines.
Disappointed that there are no new bespoke 'Chrons, instead it's just an upgrade sprue...=/
I only want the terrain and they're gonna release it later anyway.
I'm confused is it normal to have two armys an imperial and non imperial army ?
I managed to pick up a set from a local independent gaming shop. I have mixed views. I wanted additional terrain to set up a larger Space Hulk style layout with the focus on corridors instead of rooms. But for my wallet alone it came too soon! I agree 100% that I would ultimately like to see some alien inspired corridors and rooms, whether Eldar or some gruesome biological Tyrannid terrain. I suspect that the next two sets will be further Imperial corridors in order to build a single large 40k compatible layout. Maybe some alien terrain after. And I agree as well that having it all at one level detracts from the overall spirit of Killteam. I am sure that there will be some improvisation using Necromunda and Mechanics gantries and maybe the old power generators, stacks etc as engine rooms.
As for the figures, the Necrons are ok but I am not a huge Necron fan so it's a bit out of my wheelhouse to comment. Imperial Guard is probably my largest overall collection and I was pleased at the announcement until I saw the figures. Don't get me wrong, they are excellent figures and crisply moulded. But they seem to be a head taller than even the Catachan guards. I know that the original Cadians are, let's say charicatures in being slightly dumpy with oversized heads and hands. That isn't too noticeable on their own but becomes obvious when compared to other 28mm minis such as Mantic GCPS troops or Stargrave. These figures are much better proportioned but seem to be the Primaris equivalent to Imperial Guard.
I have seen it suggested this is a GW reaction to the increasing number of after-market products to customise guard figures and speculation that the new Guard figures that are coming soon will also be of similar stature to the Kasrkins. If so, the existing Cadians are going to look out of place and customising between sets us going to be a problem. Plus even more recent sets like the Death Korps of Krieg are going to look oddly short by comparison. I am hoping it isn't another cynical move by GW to "persuade" fans ditch their extensive existing collections in favour of the shiny and new but the reality is that is is and always has been their M O.
with that giant bomb i hope we get some csgo type missions
Roger, roger!
Necrons rule!
I'm pretty sure Twin-Linked was in 4th ed. already, and it was definitely in 5th ed!
Twin Linked became a rule in 3rd Edition. It survived through 6th edition.
I think GW has moved away from using inches because it's not really a measure that is used that broadly beyond the US. In the UK, although you do still have people who use inches, it's not taught in school and is generally perceived as quite old-fashioned
BOO happy halloween
This came out way too fast imo, I haven't even had time to finish painting the last box set, I hope it comes back in the future, I wanted to collect the entire space hulk range but this came out way too fast to justify spending the money on it
Hi Jay, we would love to see you and a friend play a game of this please?
Speaking of kill team, I can't see the 1lb kill team. Don't worry, I'll remind you every video.
Honestly after playing kasrkin for a few games I can safely say that the tempestus scions are better. Elite points are cool, but the difference between a 4+bs and a 3+bs with rerolls is too great for it to matter much.
I would have welcomed the re-introduction of Stormtroopers, yet more Canadians are just ugh. Makes the universe feel super small.
Had they been released earlier or later, I wouldn't have minded so much.
@@rutgaurxi7314 The thing is that these units all replaced each other in 40k and all do the exact same thing. Kasrkin (and Elysian Drop Troops) where replaced by Stormtroopers, and Stormtroopers where replaced with Scions. Still yeah Cadians are pretty much the Ultramarines of the guard.
@@gabelowe5285 I'm well aware. It's just in hindsight (for me at least) seems to be a missed opportunity, instead of a chance to make the universe seem smaller.
They might be easy to fix (a simple head swap?), but for me, it's incredibly annoying and just dumbs down the universe. Besides the scions are fat bastards.
@@gabelowe5285 i thought that title went to krieg since everyone wants their army to be ww1 germany, meanwhile there's no way for me to get a afrika korps or desert storm theme going
Gurka
I much prefer unique terrain. Shadowvaults is a bit meh to me because of the repeat terrain.
Sadly, reanimation is not automatic, nor it is immediate. And limited to once per battle.
I think they've messed it up ☹️
@@roweyboi maybe - but given rather precise language and clear interactions, it seems that it was intended. Maybethey will balance it up :)
No? Reanimation is attempted in the ready operatives step of each turning point, and can be attempted again during the turning point by the cryptek or plasmacyte
@@minigamerjeonsofbattle9376 Sadly, it is not the case - "reanimation attempt" is defined as placing token and rolling in the ready operatives. Moreover, it is written in plain text, that only certain abilities allow for reanimation attempt. As such, when your necron goes down for the first time in the battle you can use “certain ability” (tactical ploy, technomancer ability, reanimation plasmacyte ability) to make “reanimation attempt” (i.e. place token and roll at the beginning of next turning point).
Without “certain ability” necron just goes down as any other operative.
Cool
If they just picked shapes that were intuitive I'd have nothing to say...
Can you give away the Necrons in the kit to your subscribers?
Can we get battle reports please? I wanna watch you game.
KILLTEAM SHADOW VAULTS is great but..... you can't get it.....
I hate playing against my friend in kill team he plays as scions and custodes and I play tau so it’s really hard
this would have been great if you could get hold of it lmao
I'm fine with the first 2 being like this, but i will not be happy if ever box follows this same trend where it's 95% the same and then 1 narrative sprue. How about some destroyed walls, or like a boiler room or engine room. Also the elite rule is really not that great. You can only modify a Single die just once?! Like seriously that actually is just dumb. It should be applicable to any amount of dice with no limit to how much you can improve them. This would make them more Elite and would not be over powered as there ultimately are a very limited amount of elite points you can accumulate in a single game. So if you have a couple models you really need gone then spend the points. But you can only ever build up a max of 18.
What kind of warp trickery is this. I don’t watch like a month of videos and J over here looking like he lost a ton of weight in a good way. Nice 👍
I’m a little disappointed it’s the exact same terrain and not different things in the same general style