One of the best things about Marshalls is also too much of a good thing and that's presence. You've really got to master how their presence interacts with the tone, otherwise it can thin out. I say dial it back when using pedals. When I'm doing some tone exploration with a pedal, I'll dial everything to zero and slowly goose everything till it's perfect. It's worth doing because it helps you find those sweet spot settings.
I have a Friedman BE-OD and it sounds great with my DSL 20 combo. But I like the sound of my Boss pedals more. The Friedman is just a bit too modern sounding for me. I prefer the Boss Turbo Distortion and Waza SD-1. They work perfectly in my book.
i like the Friedman BE OD with a amp with 100% clean channel like Marshall Valvestate 2000 for example. But with an amp like JCM 800 i prefer tubescreamer or Boss too. The BE OD sounds very modern yes
The good thing about Tube Screamer type overdrive is that it doesn't get sloggy sounding like a Rat or some of the darker sounding overdrives. They play with the dynamics of the amp. I had an MXR Distortion Plus which I'd put in this distortion class. I'd boost my JMP stack and have the actually Randy Rhoads sound. My friends and their friends were always stopping by when I got the amp and pedal when I was about fifteen back in the 80s. Everyone wanted to play my amp. Another thing is distortion pedals ALWAYS sound better through the front than through an effects loop where they bypass the preamp. That is NOT what you want to do if you want the best overdrive. The thing is to get your pedal talking to your preamp and find the best settings. It takes time to find the right tones.
@@jimrockmusic It's the only way to do it. Distortion pedals, like pickups, are meant to hit the front of your amp hard. They don't design these things to hit the power section. There are so many myths guitarists believe it's incredible. One is that power tubes produce distortion. Not true. The preamp produces the distortion. Most of the great guitar tones were created using amps that didn't even have effects loops. You didn't even begin to see effects loops become a common thing till about the mid to late 80s. I remember this. I was there. The company that always bragged about having an effects loop was Mesa Boogie so the others felt they had to keep up to hold the market. I had a Boogie and quite frankly there was nothing special about the effects loop. In fact, it did what most FX loops do and it sucked tone. Since I only used a few pedals (Flange, Chorus, Delay) there was no need to so it all went in the front and it sounded great.
Hey man, I actually have this amp and some pedals. I use a lot the Hi gain, channel with gain at 5/6 with the conjunction of a big muff! I love my sound but the bad thing it's I can't boost my sound for solo or something other, because to much gain are engaged in the amp. Do you think use a Friedman on the low channel, can give me the same kind of sound than the 800 on high? So I will use the big muff in front the same way and can add booster after the Friedman for solo! Thanks!
For me the Friedman BE OD must be used on a clean channel to have a good sound and avoid too much distorsion or bad sounds. So you can use it on the low channel which is clean, you will have much gain than on the high Channel without the pedal. But i think i prefer the sound on the high channel, it's more dynamics and "large" than with a pedal.
I'm a Tubescreamer guy. I love mids.
One of the best things about Marshalls is also too much of a good thing and that's presence. You've really got to master how their presence interacts with the tone, otherwise it can thin out. I say dial it back when using pedals. When I'm doing some tone exploration with a pedal, I'll dial everything to zero and slowly goose everything till it's perfect. It's worth doing because it helps you find those sweet spot settings.
Agree and don’t get wrapped up on what number the knob ends up on, trust your ears
I have a Friedman BE-OD and it sounds great with my DSL 20 combo. But I like the sound of my Boss pedals more. The Friedman is just a bit too modern sounding for me. I prefer the Boss Turbo Distortion and Waza SD-1. They work perfectly in my book.
i like the Friedman BE OD with a amp with 100% clean channel like Marshall Valvestate 2000 for example. But with an amp like JCM 800 i prefer tubescreamer or Boss too. The BE OD sounds very modern yes
Do you use the turbo mode on your ds2
The good thing about Tube Screamer type overdrive is that it doesn't get sloggy sounding like a Rat or some of the darker sounding overdrives. They play with the dynamics of the amp. I had an MXR Distortion Plus which I'd put in this distortion class. I'd boost my JMP stack and have the actually Randy Rhoads sound. My friends and their friends were always stopping by when I got the amp and pedal when I was about fifteen back in the 80s. Everyone wanted to play my amp. Another thing is distortion pedals ALWAYS sound better through the front than through an effects loop where they bypass the preamp. That is NOT what you want to do if you want the best overdrive. The thing is to get your pedal talking to your preamp and find the best settings. It takes time to find the right tones.
yes i always put my pedal overdrive in front
@@jimrockmusic It's the only way to do it. Distortion pedals, like pickups, are meant to hit the front of your amp hard. They don't design these things to hit the power section. There are so many myths guitarists believe it's incredible. One is that power tubes produce distortion. Not true. The preamp produces the distortion. Most of the great guitar tones were created using amps that didn't even have effects loops. You didn't even begin to see effects loops become a common thing till about the mid to late 80s. I remember this. I was there. The company that always bragged about having an effects loop was Mesa Boogie so the others felt they had to keep up to hold the market. I had a Boogie and quite frankly there was nothing special about the effects loop. In fact, it did what most FX loops do and it sucked tone. Since I only used a few pedals (Flange, Chorus, Delay) there was no need to so it all went in the front and it sounded great.
Buenas manos.
Hey man, I actually have this amp and some pedals.
I use a lot the Hi gain, channel with gain at 5/6 with the conjunction of a big muff! I love my sound but the bad thing it's I can't boost my sound for solo or something other, because to much gain are engaged in the amp. Do you think use a Friedman on the low channel, can give me the same kind of sound than the 800 on high? So I will use the big muff in front the same way and can add booster after the Friedman for solo!
Thanks!
For me the Friedman BE OD must be used on a clean channel to have a good sound and avoid too much distorsion or bad sounds. So you can use it on the low channel which is clean, you will have much gain than on the high Channel without the pedal. But i think i prefer the sound on the high channel, it's more dynamics and "large" than with a pedal.
I use a mxr micro amp plus in the effects loop . Works perfectly for lead boost. If your 800 has a loop. 😎🤘
My 800 don't have loop, it's from 82