Review of Banggood 50mm diam Face Mill. Drillpro 4 Flute BAP400R-50-22 50mm Face End Mill Cutter -- goo.gl/emc4Wz More Professional Tools -- goo.gl/x7LdDF
hey there ole tom just letting you know your rpm is too fast and feed to slow--there is no way to use that cutter and then use those feeds and speeds and review it. You basically just simply show that the cutter can be placed in a spindle and the motor started and that if the cutter feeds across something will happen. I will be uploading more videos. I buy and make my own universal arbors for the identical cutter and bigger ones.. That being said my intent is not to belittle but to make you aware of knowledge that is available.
3:50 your rpm is 750 feed minium 300mm/min thats 0.1Fz "only". you take too less depth and go too slow 1000rpm 800 mm/min and depth what your machine can do
@@tompas11A3n52KkX what am I missing??? You mill away approximately 80% of the 50mm diameter of the face mill in about 30 seconds is that not close to 100mm per minute travel speed?
@@user-wo7rz3yn4o At about 11:25 the video is speeded up from normal speed. Thats why you think that the travel speed is much higher than it is in reality. Rpm: 95, 145, 500, 750 at these rpms you can choose one of these feed rates: 12, 19, 32, or 58 mm/min. Rpm: 190, 290, 1000, 1500 at these rpms you can choose one of these feed rates: 24, 38, 64, or 116 mm/min.
@@tompas11A3n52KkX you machine dont look like a china machine or tabel model .. you can go 0.1 - 0.2mm pr. rmp and 1 mm down and you indsert vil not burn ,, to slow is not good way
Oh no there are cutting data recommendations for every milling/lathe tool just as it is for drilling. It all depends of type of tool, type of inserts, type of material, type of machine and so on. For example this one: www.uddeholm.com/files/Cutting_Data_Corrax_eng.pdf But there are many others out there similar to this one. Thanks for watching.
As a manual machinist I use trial and error method to get the best cut and finish. Whenever I use the Machinist Handbook to set a speed I can never get a good finish. Also reading your chips is important. For this facemill or a Sandvik I would be running at 2800 RPM and getting a 1.6 to 0.8 um ra with .030 cuts.
Nice review. Short and to the point. And you show what really mattered. The cut quality. Maybe you can try different inserts into it. There are a few different types available. Maybe the Blue Nano ones may be a little different? Was the steel just a plain structural type?
The steel was just a plain structual type, nothing special at all. I should have mentioned this. Yes maybe the blue ones will do some difference regarding cut quality. Thanks for your comment and watching.
Fräsen ser ju ut att rotera betydligt snabbare än 750 rpm beroende på att jag speedat upp videon. Dock är rotationshastigheten faktiskt 750 rpm i verklig hastighet.
I used this facemill to cut 8mm depth, I was surprised how well it done, I started at 2 mm and realized it could do a lot more. This was using 12L14 COLD DRAWN STEEL.
@@tompas11A3n52KkX it’s an IH Manual mill. The bed dimensions are similar to a Bridgeport. I haven’t seen many on UA-cam but this guy has one ua-cam.com/video/fD14mxH4xjI/v-deo.html
@@justtestingonce Ok then I understand why you can cut at 8mm depth. That depth would be a little to much för my Aciera F3 I think. Thanks for your info.
Hello, I have an Aciera F3 too. Could you explain how you constructed the w20 shank for this endmill? Would love to see a video non your Aciera tips and tricks! Thanks!
hey there ole tom just letting you know your rpm is too fast and feed to slow--there is no way to use that cutter and then use those feeds and speeds and review it. You basically just simply show that the cutter can be placed in a spindle and the motor started and that if the cutter feeds across something will happen. I will be uploading more videos. I buy and make my own universal arbors for the identical cutter and bigger ones.. That being said my intent is not to belittle but to make you aware of knowledge that is available.
Thanks for the info Jeff and for watching.
To fast, for hogging out material yes, but to pull a good finish with a .015 to .030 running the tool at 2800-3200 rpm.
Nice tool. Your mill is fantastic. Hug
Yes I like this tool, in relation to the price it's ok. I also like my milling machine. Many thanks celso.
3:50 your rpm is 750 feed minium 300mm/min thats 0.1Fz "only". you take too less depth and go too slow
1000rpm 800 mm/min and depth what your machine can do
At 750 rpm max feed is 58 mm/min and at 1000 rpm max feed is 116 mm/min on this machine.
@@tompas11A3n52KkX what am I missing??? You mill away approximately 80% of the 50mm diameter of the face mill in about 30 seconds is that not close to 100mm per minute travel speed?
@@user-wo7rz3yn4o At about 11:25 the video is speeded up from normal speed. Thats why you think that the travel speed is much higher than it is in reality.
Rpm: 95, 145, 500, 750 at these rpms you can choose one of these feed rates: 12, 19, 32, or 58 mm/min.
Rpm: 190, 290, 1000, 1500 at these rpms you can choose one of these feed rates: 24, 38, 64, or 116 mm/min.
feed is to slow ..bump it up and make chips
Your machine is much bigger and stronger than my machine. I don't want to overload my small machine with high feed rate.
@@tompas11A3n52KkX you machine dont look like a china machine or tabel model .. you can go 0.1 - 0.2mm pr. rmp and 1 mm down and you indsert vil not burn ,, to slow is not good way
@@gertkristensen6451 The highest feed rate at 750 rpm is 58mm/min on my machine.
@@tompas11A3n52KkX cant you show me the feed scale .if i calculate this,,,. whit 1 thoot you go 0.075mm pr rev i think you can go 0.58mm pr rev
maby you cant make a video off your machine .. im from dk i understand swidish
I think the feed is too slow, the way the burr is pushing ahead.
Banggood tools may be adequate but Banggood corporation is not trust worthy
10:29 how it would be better on aluminium lol 1900 rpm 760-1520mm/min
Maybe...
7:00 too slow you are just rubbing it xD chips need fly not push toward
You think so...
So the speed of rotation, travel and depth of cut is basically determined by trial and error?
Oh no there are cutting data recommendations for every milling/lathe tool just as it is for drilling. It all depends of type of tool, type of inserts, type of material, type of machine and so on. For example this one: www.uddeholm.com/files/Cutting_Data_Corrax_eng.pdf
But there are many others out there similar to this one. Thanks for watching.
As a manual machinist I use trial and error method to get the best cut and finish. Whenever I use the Machinist Handbook to set a speed I can never get a good finish. Also reading your chips is important. For this facemill or a Sandvik I would be running at 2800 RPM and getting a 1.6 to 0.8 um ra with .030 cuts.
Hey Tom , I like yer vice
I like it too
Maybe better inserts?seems to cut well despite rough rough finish
Better quality inserts would certainly be an upgrade. Thanks for watching.
Why does it make these tiny scratches is that because of unround ness?
Who knows?
Can i use that mill for er11,er 16 or er 32,thanks
This one come without a shank so I had to make one myself. You can make a shank that will fit anyone of those ER-collets.
Nice review. Short and to the point. And you show what really mattered. The cut quality. Maybe you can try different inserts into it. There are a few different types available. Maybe the Blue Nano ones may be a little different? Was the steel just a plain structural type?
The steel was just a plain structual type, nothing special at all. I should have mentioned this. Yes maybe the blue ones will do some difference regarding cut quality. Thanks for your comment and watching.
11:40 pushing chips
Oh yeah!
Increase feed speed and reduces spindle speed. Looks like you burning your way through not cutting. Give it a try.
Yes go for it!
what is cnc industrial name of this tool ?
Face mill.
@@tompas11A3n52KkX nothing else as specified category ?
@@Morgan_369 Not that I know.
Det där kan inte vara 750 rpm...
Fräsen ser ju ut att rotera betydligt snabbare än 750 rpm beroende på att jag speedat upp videon. Dock är rotationshastigheten faktiskt 750 rpm i verklig hastighet.
@@tompas11A3n52KkX okej! har en liknande fast bt40, funkar rätt bra men hittar inga bra skär för titan :(
I used this facemill to cut 8mm depth, I was surprised how well it done, I started at 2 mm and realized it could do a lot more. This was using 12L14 COLD DRAWN STEEL.
8 mm depth, that was really a lot. What kind of milling machine do you have?
@@tompas11A3n52KkX it’s an IH Manual mill. The bed dimensions are similar to a Bridgeport. I haven’t seen many on UA-cam but this guy has one ua-cam.com/video/fD14mxH4xjI/v-deo.html
@@justtestingonce Ok then I understand why you can cut at 8mm depth. That depth would be a little to much för my Aciera F3 I think. Thanks for your info.
@@tompas11A3n52KkX Yes, also depends on the materials machinability, 12L14 steel has the best rating for machinability.
Hello, I have an Aciera F3 too. Could you explain how you constructed the w20 shank for this endmill? Would love to see a video non your Aciera tips and tricks! Thanks!
Here are two pictures that may answer and explain your question.
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@@tompas11A3n52KkX thanks! Did you make the w20 arbor yourself too?
@@JelckedeBoer No I got some tools with the Aciera when I bought it and this arbor is one of these tools.