@@bananasstuff3344 Ive never had issue routing cables and its not like your changing your rear derailleur cable every week, brake lines never need swapping. I'm trying to understand the appeal.
Canyon has a removable cover/protector on the downtube that the cables are routed through on the Spectral. You get the benefits of internal routing without making it harder to work on.
Give me an aluminum version with bearings in the rear and I AM SOLD! I get they want the design feature of the carbon to flex, I just don't want the price tag that comes along with that.
My sentiment too. You don't want to get carried away having fun hitting those jumps with this flex thingy. I mean how long till it cracks 2 yrs 4? So expensive for that.
@@slickrgl I don't think it'll crack. Flex stays have been used for years with titanium, carbon, and many more materials. It's just such a high price tag and starts to put Transition out of the reach of A LOT of riders, and potential riders.
The sexiest bike of the bunch by a mile, but I wish Transition also had a proposition for those, who prefer aluminium frames (not just with the Spur, but also - the recent Scout and Sentinel) #TransitionPlsMakeAluFrames
Speaking of the grim donut, I think they should try running the fork backward. Yeah, it shortens the wheelbase a bit, but if they’re going for future geometry, what’s more future than a NEGATIVE offset fork? Just a thought, just an experiment. One run than done... unless I’m ahead of my time and it works wonders, then give me credit for the idea!😂😂😂 Seriously though, I’d like to see them try it once.
I've had mine for two weeks. Bought the GX but upgraded mexh, cassette, shifter and bottom bracket to XO, I was riding a Santa Cruz Highball before. The Spur is a rocket, so comfortable on the downs, and I find it climbs brilliantly, even through the technical ups. Great bike and stunning to sit and look at during post ride beers
I've finally learned how to start breaking down where each down country bike fits it's niche. If all you want is to get up fast and come down fast, not quite as much in between because the slackness and length isn't quite as maneuverable on flowy, quick turning trails, this is your bike. Add a more limited budget to your constraints then this is definitely the bike for you. If you want comfort that climbs efficiently and not worried about the fastest uphill but want to smash everything downhill comfortably at even higher speed, AND have an unlimited budget, then the Tallboy is for you. If you want fast climbing, but also great maneuverability but not smashing too much too fast and have an unlimited budget, then the Ripley is for you. If you have unlimited budget, and want to have more downhill capability but not necessarily crazy smash, and want super maneuverability (the Porsche of down country bikes) but still climbs fast, the Pivot Trail 429 is your bike. If you want a fast climber, that is maneuverable, and still capable downhill but not crazy smash but are on a limited budget, the YT Izzo Pro Race with all the light bling is the bike for you. The Ripley & Trail 429 are pretty close to the same type of rider where we just love flowy, twisty trails with some tech and all-around capability. The YT Izzo is pretty close to those two, with a little bit of the Transition Spur.
Phonophobe I had the Rocky Mountain Slayer SS back in the day (the beautiful yellow Wade Simmons Signature Edition with the amazingly detailed Decals) and this thing had hardly any straight tube on it
@@lukasbormann4830 ok break a pivot party or lock a bearing up, how long do you not ride for!!! Then parts are hard to get! Btw, why are you commenting on a video 2 months old????
Great save and great review. I'd love to see you review the new Evil Following. There's virtually nothing out about it other than press releases Thanks!
Can somebody explain the MTB categories??? Is it XC > Beast Man > Trail> Stinkor> Clawful > DC > Skeletor > All Mountain > Enduro > Freeride? Or does it go DC > Trail > Orko > Battle Cat> All Mountain > Teela-Na Sorceress of Castle Grayskull > Enduro > He-Man > DH?
Grim donut tho?!?!?!? Even tho he know the project is being slowed I think we would love a progress report or just a reminder on the plans / ideas. Love you guys hope to see a new vid on this now
Hmm I'm confused. In all other reviews they say the bike climbs techy stuff really well... I wouldn't know how long wheelbase has such a negative effect on that as long as you're not going up tight switchbacks. I'd rather be concerned with the slack head angle in that respect!
@pinkbike. Other than the rear end it sounds like the Tallboy reviews. How does it stack up? Comparison video in the future perhaps? I love my Tallboy btw. You guys sold me on that. 🤘🏼
Really good video! I also liked Sarah's interviewing style. With Mike interviewing it sometimes felt like he didn't let her talk to me, I thought she did that better. Could of course als be that Levy is just a great inverviewee :D
You are 5'10" and right on the border between Medium and Large. How did you pick Large? I am 5'9" and I chose Medium. It is soooo hard to tell, when riding both, which is perfect. P.S. I love your reviews - so clear and thorough. Thank you.
@@rubindublone5932 Actually I bought a Commencal Meta TR which has very similar geometry, but climbs better. I always buy Medium, but before I bought, I rode a friend's large Transition and felt a bit stetched. I just wondered how he decided because sometimes it looks a bit too big for him in these videos.
@@drmoynihan I also ride a size medium on my Spectral and I love it but on the fast rugh (idk how to spell it😂) terrain it sometimes feels a bit nervous
I have a large, my decision was due to my road/triathlon and XC background, I like feeling a little stretched, I wonder if a medium would make me feel a bit squashed, how do you find the medium?
@@GogglesTyresandTrainers At 5'9" I feel fine and actually don't think about it. Except, like all guys, I wonder if this or that would make a difference. Before I bought my Commencal, rode my friend's Large Transition (similar geometry) it felt fine, but he said I looked a little stretched. He is 5'10". Again, I love my Meta TR, but I always wonder what if I bought a Large. However, had I bought the large I probably would have wondered if I should have bought the Medium. RecentlyI saw an inexperienced guy on a xtra-Large which was obviously too big for him He said it was great on the downhill but he was having trouble navigating it on the rocky flats. He had been tricked by a bikeshop (he didn't know it was going out of business) into buying the demo Trek. I ride slower techy trails great and downhill as fast as I dare, so I am sure I got the right size, but I always wonder. 🤪 I am a guy.
Nice Review! I live in AZ and Salsa put me on the Spearfish, then the Spur. The Spearfish is a descender, especially sweeping turns. I disagree with your insight about climbing on the spur. It accelerates really quick, so sharp turns or rock gardens you come out of going up hill you can stomp on the pedals and it's gone. It feels like a hard tail with accelerations, but the rear shock is quick to rebound off of techie rock sections. Loving the Spur over the Spearfish!
LOVE my carbon fiber XC bike...makes me feel exactly how he describes this bike...this may been my next bike. Great review. ROFL “you wear knee pads on your XC bike, this is the bike for you...”. I’ve done that. :-)
Flat out my favorite bike in this whole test and the only one I would seriously consider... but then again I felt that way before the first video dropped. Lol!
Even all-mountain bikes. In terms of time on a more well rounded and average trail. Like with this transition how much penalty do you get on the downs vs how much do you gain in the climbs.
This review left me with more questions than answers. I've waited with great interest thinking my next bike was going to be the Scalpel SE, Revel Ranger or this bike. Other reviews praised its climbing ability while this one says it's not so hot due to... a long wheelbase?
I too thought the verdict was a bit strange. But a lot of bikes nowadays are great and for the journalistic value they have to at least try to differentiate the bikes. When they say it's not the best at technical climbs it sounds like it's comparable to an mtb from the 90's but I'm confident you'll find it great. But while I'm at it #mikelevy #pinkbike what would you consider the best mtb to be for steep technical climbs?
I worked with them to fix some factory setup issues and they were great. Few more back and forths since for various things were good. Smaller company is mostly a plus imo.
Would be helpful if you made it more clear which four bikes you were comparing to in this vid. If it's the ultimate downcountry bike, is it being compared to trail, enduro, xc? Otherwise great review - thanks!
Reading between the lines, it sounds like the bike is limited by its travel and that can get you into trouble because the geometry lulls you into a false sense of security. Maybe Transition have found the limit of "progressive" geometry for an XC bike?
@JF You guys hit the nail on the head. Progressive geo opens up the high speed capability. Which means wheels, tyres and frame need to be more robust, and that means more weight. The way I look at it, a super light xc bike is fun to ride most places untill it gets really narly, then it becomes scary and more chance of crashing so naturally you have to ride those sections slower.. At least if one does crash, they arn't going as fast when they do. So what I am trying to say is atm, weight and geometry are synonymous.
I dont think the bike is at all limited due to its travel. It does NOT feel like a 150mm bike even though its slack, it still feels every bit a lightweight bike. Just because the bike is slack, it doesnt mean you'll huck it harder, it just grants you better control at high speeds and especially when traction breaks. The only limit the bike has is how far you can pedal it.
Exactly my thoughts too. I own a large and I'm 6ft exactly. The bike neither feels too long nor too unwieldy. I'm still running the stock bars at 800mm too. I thought I'd hate them that long but they felt great right out of the box.
Thank you Transition for keeping the brake routing external.
Looks horrible why is that a pro?
@@bananasstuff3344 Ive never had issue routing cables and its not like your changing your rear derailleur cable every week, brake lines never need swapping. I'm trying to understand the appeal.
Jolinator when you change your brakes you won’t need to bleed them.
@@Jolinator because some things are more important than looks.
Canyon has a removable cover/protector on the downtube that the cables are routed through on the Spectral. You get the benefits of internal routing without making it harder to work on.
Pinkbike has some of the best quality footage on UA-cam!
Almost, they need to upload at 60 fps
Correction... they have the best
@@MaQuGo119 no. 24p is the most cinematic
checkout Fortnine quality
Give me an aluminum version with bearings in the rear and I AM SOLD! I get they want the design feature of the carbon to flex, I just don't want the price tag that comes along with that.
@JF I saw it and I almost pulled the trigger. Need to save for a few more months, but I think that's what I'll be grabbing come 2021.
Unlikely... 🙁 Even the new Scout and Sentinel only come in carbon....
Lol I love carbon but to each his own.
My sentiment too. You don't want to get carried away having fun hitting those jumps with this flex thingy. I mean how long till it cracks 2 yrs 4? So expensive for that.
@@slickrgl I don't think it'll crack. Flex stays have been used for years with titanium, carbon, and many more materials. It's just such a high price tag and starts to put Transition out of the reach of A LOT of riders, and potential riders.
Best intro in a while, nice save Mike
The sexiest bike of the bunch by a mile, but I wish Transition also had a proposition for those, who prefer aluminium frames (not just with the Spur, but also - the recent Scout and Sentinel) #TransitionPlsMakeAluFrames
I think lars heard you ;) they just announced the alu Scout and Sentinel
just waiting on the spur and your wish will be fully granted
I want a grim donut special but taken seriously 😂
Speaking of the grim donut, I think they should try running the fork backward. Yeah, it shortens the wheelbase a bit, but if they’re going for future geometry, what’s more future than a NEGATIVE offset fork?
Just a thought, just an experiment. One run than done... unless I’m ahead of my time and it works wonders, then give me credit for the idea!😂😂😂
Seriously though, I’d like to see them try it once.
Some say the headtube split and the stanchions buckled 30 meters down the maiden voyage
I'm just glad I finally know what the grim donut is
Ya bring that MFin’ Grim Donut back here guys, c’mon
I've had mine for two weeks. Bought the GX but upgraded mexh, cassette, shifter and bottom bracket to XO, I was riding a Santa Cruz Highball before. The Spur is a rocket, so comfortable on the downs, and I find it climbs brilliantly, even through the technical ups. Great bike and stunning to sit and look at during post ride beers
how about switchbacks?? ordered spur but pinkbike loves evo
@@janeandraka599 I've not found them tough and have ridden quite a few, it was the one part of Mike's review I disagree with.
@@GogglesTyresandTrainers any pedal strikes?? what size cranks you have, thanks
I've finally learned how to start breaking down where each down country bike fits it's niche. If all you want is to get up fast and come down fast, not quite as much in between because the slackness and length isn't quite as maneuverable on flowy, quick turning trails, this is your bike. Add a more limited budget to your constraints then this is definitely the bike for you. If you want comfort that climbs efficiently and not worried about the fastest uphill but want to smash everything downhill comfortably at even higher speed, AND have an unlimited budget, then the Tallboy is for you. If you want fast climbing, but also great maneuverability but not smashing too much too fast and have an unlimited budget, then the Ripley is for you. If you have unlimited budget, and want to have more downhill capability but not necessarily crazy smash, and want super maneuverability (the Porsche of down country bikes) but still climbs fast, the Pivot Trail 429 is your bike. If you want a fast climber, that is maneuverable, and still capable downhill but not crazy smash but are on a limited budget, the YT Izzo Pro Race with all the light bling is the bike for you. The Ripley & Trail 429 are pretty close to the same type of rider where we just love flowy, twisty trails with some tech and all-around capability. The YT Izzo is pretty close to those two, with a little bit of the Transition Spur.
Pinkbike - any plans to review the Ibis Ripley? It seems to be a glaring omission at this point. And: great video! I love this guy's review style.
Yes please, or at least include it in your final round table :-)
They did. It’s not new so not included in the 2020 field test.
The Ripley is a trail bike not a DC or XC bike. It has more travel than any bike in this test.
@@paulwintermute1495 Ripley is 120mm. same as the Spur. Just more robust shock/fork and yes 130mm up front instead of a 120mm SID here.
I love how it looks! That straight line down the top tube and chain stays looks super clean!
That's exactly what I loved about the old Rocky Mountain Slayer design... That one straight line through it... Yummy
@@bananasstuff3344 well I guess personal preference. I think it looks awesome
@@bananasstuff3344 Ye, personal preference. It just appeals to me.
Phonophobe I had the Rocky Mountain Slayer SS back in the day (the beautiful yellow Wade Simmons Signature Edition with the amazingly detailed Decals) and this thing had hardly any straight tube on it
@@rolux4853 I'm talking about the iteration before the latest design, 2016-19. Not including the SS model.
By far the sickest bike in the test group. Transition knows the market. I need this thing
I just bought an Izzo, I think I made the right choice, fox 34s 130 front rear XO1 and carbon rims for a fair bit less.
I bought this same bike about a month ago and the thing rips. Plus it’s a ton of bike for $5300.
i bought it.good clime,good descend,good long ride for me.
Everything is easy and doesn't tire me, it's fun forever!
The one we’ve all been waiting for
Any review on the YT Izzo?
YT is trash, wall art yes, function? NO
@@mrexon mate your talking mad shit 😂
@@lukasbormann4830 ok break a pivot party or lock a bearing up, how long do you not ride for!!! Then parts are hard to get!
Btw, why are you commenting on a video 2 months old????
@@mrexon just watched it again 😂And every good bike shop has these
Downhillers XC bike, or hardcore XC racers downhill bike? Hmmm...
Hardcore Cross Country (HXC), perhaps?
or.. a trail bike? wowie
@@cameron8997 yes officer, he said the word
So enduro?
@@kornofilo super enduro?
Great save and great review. I'd love to see you review the new Evil Following. There's virtually nothing out about it other than press releases Thanks!
Can somebody explain the MTB categories??? Is it XC > Beast Man > Trail> Stinkor> Clawful > DC > Skeletor > All Mountain > Enduro > Freeride? Or does it go DC > Trail > Orko > Battle Cat> All Mountain > Teela-Na Sorceress of Castle Grayskull > Enduro > He-Man > DH?
Grim donut tho?!?!?!? Even tho he know the project is being slowed I think we would love a progress report or just a reminder on the plans / ideas. Love you guys hope to see a new vid on this now
Thank you for the reviews.
Possible improvement during editing: the red font is really hard to read.
Hmm I'm confused. In all other reviews they say the bike climbs techy stuff really well... I wouldn't know how long wheelbase has such a negative effect on that as long as you're not going up tight switchbacks. I'd rather be concerned with the slack head angle in that respect!
@pinkbike. Other than the rear end it sounds like the Tallboy reviews. How does it stack up? Comparison video in the future perhaps? I love my Tallboy btw. You guys sold me on that. 🤘🏼
Really good video! I also liked Sarah's interviewing style. With Mike interviewing it sometimes felt like he didn't let her talk to me, I thought she did that better. Could of course als be that Levy is just a great inverviewee :D
You are 5'10" and right on the border between Medium and Large. How did you pick Large?
I am 5'9" and I chose Medium. It is soooo hard to tell, when riding both, which is perfect.
P.S. I love your reviews - so clear and thorough. Thank you.
Same with every bike😂😭
@@rubindublone5932
Actually I bought a Commencal Meta TR which has very similar geometry, but climbs better. I always buy Medium, but before I bought, I rode a friend's large Transition and felt a bit stetched.
I just wondered how he decided because sometimes it looks a bit too big for him in these videos.
@@drmoynihan I also ride a size medium on my Spectral and I love it but on the fast rugh (idk how to spell it😂) terrain it sometimes feels a bit nervous
I have a large, my decision was due to my road/triathlon and XC background, I like feeling a little stretched, I wonder if a medium would make me feel a bit squashed, how do you find the medium?
@@GogglesTyresandTrainers
At 5'9" I feel fine and actually don't think about it. Except, like all guys, I wonder if this or that would make a difference. Before I bought my Commencal, rode my friend's Large Transition (similar geometry) it felt fine, but he said I looked a little stretched. He is 5'10". Again, I love my Meta TR, but I always wonder what if I bought a Large. However, had I bought the large I probably would have wondered if I should have bought the Medium.
RecentlyI saw an inexperienced guy on a xtra-Large which was obviously too big for him He said it was great on the downhill but he was having trouble navigating it on the rocky flats. He had been tricked by a bikeshop (he didn't know it was going out of business) into buying the demo Trek.
I ride slower techy trails great and downhill as fast as I dare, so I am sure I got the right size, but I always wonder. 🤪 I am a guy.
Nice Review! I live in AZ and Salsa put me on the Spearfish, then the Spur. The Spearfish is a descender, especially sweeping turns. I disagree with your insight about climbing on the spur. It accelerates really quick, so sharp turns or rock gardens you come out of going up hill you can stomp on the pedals and it's gone. It feels like a hard tail with accelerations, but the rear shock is quick to rebound off of techie rock sections. Loving the Spur over the Spearfish!
A size medium with a slightly narrower handlebar should be more appropriate to climb the techy stuff
Yeh.. The problem with long and slack is when the bike is xl size the wheelbase can be a problem for more intestinal trails.
Love the clean lines making it look like a hardtail.
yooooo lets get levy to do this exact kinda review with the process 111. smol fun bikes bayebee
"OOooOOOOoOoooOOOOOoOOOOOOO!!!" - Mike Levy
Cool bike but still not the grim donut.
LOVE my carbon fiber XC bike...makes me feel exactly how he describes this bike...this may been my next bike. Great review. ROFL “you wear knee pads on your XC bike, this is the bike for you...”. I’ve done that. :-)
Can you guys turn down the music during the transitions? Its loud as F then the talking is much quieter. Bit of a killer in headphones.
Flat out my favorite bike in this whole test and the only one I would seriously consider... but then again I felt that way before the first video dropped. Lol!
that Grim Donut shirt is mocking us ever so slightly.
Given its specialty, I’d enjoy watching a comparison against trail bikes.
Particularly in 27.5 (like the trance)
Even all-mountain bikes. In terms of time on a more well rounded and average trail. Like with this transition how much penalty do you get on the downs vs how much do you gain in the climbs.
I love transition bikes
Did you keep the best for last? Revel Ranger. Can’t wait to hear how it compares to the Transition Spur.
Transition Spur or Rocky Mountain Element??
I need this in my life.
This is what I’ve been waiting for!!!
Them handlebars look way way too wide. Looks like his upper body is so rigid
does Levy have tiny arms? that bar looks ridiculous
Two minutes with a hacksaw and you can get them back down to 90's xc width.
Seat Time true. Really all bikes should come with stupid wide bars and just let you cut em
the quote “a handful on tight switchbacks “ makes me nervous to buy since there are a lot near me
Man, if only Transition makes these bikes more available... Wouldn't have to research so many other bikes for comparison.
5’10” is a medium frame size!
Don’t let that epic save distract you, from the fact, that there still isn’t a grim donut video
Troll with that Grim Donut tee.
My fav out of the bunch
It ain’t no Yeti! Although I might be biased having an sb100 🤣
@@mymtb2182 that SB115 is a joke. How they think it's acceptable to charge what they do for that bike I do not know.
Looks so clean
I'm good at climbing but bad at descending. So I bought this bike :)
This review left me with more questions than answers. I've waited with great interest thinking my next bike was going to be the Scalpel SE, Revel Ranger or this bike. Other reviews praised its climbing ability while this one says it's not so hot due to... a long wheelbase?
I too thought the verdict was a bit strange. But a lot of bikes nowadays are great and for the journalistic value they have to at least try to differentiate the bikes. When they say it's not the best at technical climbs it sounds like it's comparable to an mtb from the 90's but I'm confident you'll find it great. But while I'm at it #mikelevy #pinkbike what would you consider the best mtb to be for steep technical climbs?
What would be an example of a bike which would dominate the steep technical climbs then? A hard core xc-bike with minimum weight??
Nice review! lol o man that save tho 🤣
Can y'all include the other bikes it's being compared to in the description?
Based off looks I would choose this.
It’s fine in the climbs, in fact it’s exceptional.
It’s a trail bike
M - Art Yes, it is.
Is it Tallboy's brother ? It seems the same philosphy : not so good to climb but top for descend. Isn it ?
this might be my next bike
are there any pink bike vids on yetis? i would think that they are pretty progressive as well
SB115 review came out this morning
How would this bike do on flowy trails that are short ups and downs vs the epic evo?
Great save great video!!!
I want a spur but needs to have 150mm travel, 2.5 tires and weigh 20lbs!
I like Transition as a brand from what I have seen. The bikes look legit and the website seems to be honest... hows customer service?
I worked with them to fix some factory setup issues and they were great. Few more back and forths since for various things were good. Smaller company is mostly a plus imo.
i have had nothing but good experiences and support from them even years down the line.
why didn’t you guys test the scott spark?
Likely because it hasn't been updated in years.
Can we buy this same bike in Bangladesh 🇧🇩? If we can what would be the price?
I really want a xc dc sticker.....
I wonder which is more of a DH XC bike...this or the Tallboy?
Same. Biggest difference seems to be the rear end, but it sounded like the tallboy reviews.
Brian Salazar Tallboy wheelbase is another inch longer still.
Video ist cool. Keeep UP with solid wooork :DD .
Are you guys gonna do the new epic evo for downcountry?
i love her voice
Would be helpful if you made it more clear which four bikes you were comparing to in this vid. If it's the ultimate downcountry bike, is it being compared to trail, enduro, xc? Otherwise great review - thanks!
Reading between the lines, it sounds like the bike is limited by its travel and that can get you into trouble because the geometry lulls you into a false sense of security. Maybe Transition have found the limit of "progressive" geometry for an XC bike?
@JF You guys hit the nail on the head. Progressive geo opens up the high speed capability. Which means wheels, tyres and frame need to be more robust, and that means more weight. The way I look at it, a super light xc bike is fun to ride most places untill it gets really narly, then it becomes scary and more chance of crashing so naturally you have to ride those sections slower.. At least if one does crash, they arn't going as fast when they do. So what I am trying to say is atm, weight and geometry are synonymous.
I dont think the bike is at all limited due to its travel. It does NOT feel like a 150mm bike even though its slack, it still feels every bit a lightweight bike. Just because the bike is slack, it doesnt mean you'll huck it harder, it just grants you better control at high speeds and especially when traction breaks. The only limit the bike has is how far you can pedal it.
What bikes were you comparing this to?
Hows this thing for those of us in the 220 lb range?
So, is that 1.25 playback speed or 1.5?
how a 5'10'' man tries to argue about a bike size L (which is way too large for him) and its geometry, is way beyond my knowledge
that was a miss in this review, shame.
😂 😂 😂 😂 The intro
it looks like a bmc bike
and i like that
The amount of commercials during this video was astounding
Looks a whole lotta like the new optic
dim gronut
Damn, came here for the Spur, stayed for Levy 😢
Would be a bikepark visit ok for the spur? 🙄
Just trolling us with that t-shirt
That’s cool but I’d rather the grim donut
I want this f-in bike!!!
What on earth is the difference between an agressive downcountry bike compared to a trail bike!?
marketing, it's a trail bike
Trail bike is closer to 130 -150 rear travel
weight
isn't the large way to big for 5' 10"?
Exactly my thoughts too. I own a large and I'm 6ft exactly. The bike neither feels too long nor too unwieldy. I'm still running the stock bars at 800mm too. I thought I'd hate them that long but they felt great right out of the box.
Grim Donut
Stfu
You look like a road bike rider in lycra Mike 😬🤔
So its 120mm trail bike.
These new marketing gimmicks are getting out of hand.
Lol it works. Just bought Commencal’s “Mini Enduro” 🙄
Love the bike but too expensive for the base build.
It’s not the base build. It’s XO1.
Obviously
Really 6,000 Dollars? Wow
He sounds like a goat whaling
No!!!! My eyes!!!!!😱
I wonder if they went with 650b would it be more nimble?
it feels less than nimble because of the slack HT angle and the long wheelbase.
Grim donut pls
Stfu
Комплитэд 130 милимиттэр форк
I know you said you feel comfy but you don’t look it 😂