Transition Spur Review: The XC bike for people who wear knee pads
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- XC or Trail? It's a little bit of both.
0:00 Intro
1:08 Climbing
7:42 Descending
Discounted demo - www.bebikes.com/tellusyoucame...
The Spur is a pretty wild offering from Transition. It's pretty different for them too. It is light, snappy, quick, and loves going uphill. True to Transitions form, though it is a blast on the DH.
Read the full review here - www.bebikes.com/the-hub/trans... - Спорт
Great vid and review! Kinda crazy I'm shopping for this bike, came across this review while simultaneously going through recovery for a neck injury. Good to see Connor back at it so quickly. I'll need a few more months for things to setup 100% but will be shredding on a Spur when it happens and this vid was perfect inspiration. Good stuff!
Dude - It's been the perfect recovery bike. Stable enough in the bumps, but really shines on mellower stuff so I don't push it too much. Can't wait to really open it up and see what it can do next year.
Great review as always! This bike is pretty awesome.
Hey thanks! Glad you liked it.
Super rad bike! Was lucky enough to get one for the day yesterday and give it a rip. Hoping to get a long term unit to review soon. Don't blame you for getting one Conor, I might be close behind.
It's such a good one. We could be Spur pals!
Great review you're the person I look to to get a wide spectrum of ideas when shopping for my next bike. Would like more bike manufacturers to do the same and put there trail bikes on a diet. I think this would fit in as the all day bike to add to my Levo and Yeti sb150.
Thanks! So stoked we could be of help.
I'm more and more pleased with it. I ended up buying one for myself and have put a lot of miles on it over the last weeks. It's a blast.
I appreciated you sharing what you did and didn’t like about it along with a good description of who think it’s for was the cherry on top.
Hey thanks. Glad you liked it!
Fantastic review 👍
Why thank you!
Great review! If you haven't already would love to see a vid comparing the Sid and 34 with this type of bike. I'm looking at building a "backcountry" bike for the Rockies with a Spur, Ranger, or Spearfish.
Hey thanks! I ended up with a 34 on my personal Spur if that helps at all.
Its on my short list...great review
Hey thanks! It's a good bike for a short list. But, it's an even better bike to have in your garage.
I just demoed this bike for 3 rides on various terrain. I was impressed how it did on technical rocky climbs with great traction and NO front end wandering. I think it does well going down rocky trails without feeling like you’re going OTB. It will take some getting used to tight corners with the long wheelbase but it feels really stable going going downhill fast. My biggest complaint was numerous pedal strikes in rocky terrain because of the low BB. My old epic 29er gets a lot less pedal strikes but is twitchy. I’m looking to check out new epic evo next.
I've heard of folks having issues with pedal strikes on this bike , but I've put in over 50 miles on mine and yet to have a single one. Not bragging about anything, just not sure what the difference is.
Biker's Edge hmm. How much sag did you run? I think I was about 30% when I was getting pedal strikes. At 25% the rear end felt too stiff and I was only using about 75% of the travel so I lowered the pressure to 30% and it felt better, but got pedal strikes. Also, the shock was leaking some oil, so maybe it wasn’t working right. Maybe I’ll see if I can try it again. I let the shop know it was seeping oil.
I'm running 28-29% Maybe thats the ticket. It feel soft enough off the top and I rarely have a rough bottom out. About the oil. Some leaking is normal, but every spur we've seen with the SidLuxe has been leaking oil on the stanchion more than normal. We are thinking they were overfilled at the factory. After about 50 miles mine has settled down on the leaking. The performance hasn't been effected so far.
Biker's Edge thanks for your reviews and quick responses to comments. I really appreciate it.
Hey Connor, awesome review as always! So you've owned this bike for a bit now right? How would you say it handles the slower tech trails on the way down? I'd imagine at least for the higher speed tech trails it'd get tossed around quite a bit.
For context I'm debating between a Spur and a Rascal. I understand they may be in different categories but I'm not sure how much descending capability I'm giving up if I went with the Spur. Thanks!
Hey thanks!
It handles tech surprisingly well considering the category it’s in. I’m always surprised by what it lets me get away with. Half the time I forget I’m on a short travel almost XC bike. The place where I’m reminded is on harsh, flat landings. Pretty much everywhere else it punches way above its weight class.
Omg iam so confused. Maybe you can help me. Iam Coming from being an Santa Cruz owner since a long time. I got Nomad 3, Nomad 4, 5010 3, 5010 4 and now iam owning a bullit. Iam searching for a Bike now which is light, and you can ride like 30km rides with saying about 1000-1500m of elevation. I dont have the roughest terrain here but also no shaped flowtrails. Kinda natural singletracks in S3 Categorie. But i also go on holidays in the alpine region of Austria where your have slow and techy black trails and maybee once or twice in the Bikepark. So i am searching for something like a tallboy or Spur or maybee the new Rocky Element. 90% of the time i am riding in my S3 Region. So what do you think would fit the best. Thx
Great review! Did you happen to try running a bit more sag?? It sounds like you were a bit on the stiffer side with the 27%.
Transitionrecommends between 25 and 30% I’ve since tried the bike at both 25 and 30. I’ve settled on about 28%
Great review! I just sold my SB130, which I loved, but I have to try all the bikes and this one is on the list. Do you think these bikes are completely different or is the Spur a decent compromise for something a bit lighter and more "all day"?
I think they’re completely different categories. The 130 is closer to an all mountain bike while the Spur blurs the line between XC and trail.
@@bikersedge I figured as much. If you were in the market for something between a 130 and a Spur, what would you have your eye on?
@@cusecrew7106 the Orbea Occam or Giant Trance X come to mind.
I love the look of that bike! Great review. Im guessing it rides similar to my Hei Hei crdl 100/120, which is a hoot, but with the Spur’s more current geometry, I’m guessing it’s even more fun going down. If you’ve ridden the Kona, I’d love your thoughts. I live in PC, so I might find an excuse to go north and try one out. Enjoying your channel, btw.
It's such a good looking bike. Rides even better. I haven't ridden the Kona so I can't really say.
Yeah I love my spur. I liken it to when I used surf in High School. I had 7' 2" fun board that I would rip on all day. When I wanted to get "better" I sold that and bought a 5' 9" surfboard. Granted I am 5' 7" myself. I never had as much fun on that board and probably part of the reason I stopped surfing over the years. As I am getting older, I want to cover more miles and build a healthy heart through riding. This bike takes care of that for me without fooling myself that I am some pro down hill mountain biker that needs massive travel. I could see it lacking though for the rider who is constantly hitting black diamond style runs. I really love this bike. With that said, if the budget permitted, I may look into a longer travel bike in addition to this one if I ride a more challenging trails, but at this time, the bike is my go to do it all setup :) Happy riding
Hi Connor,
Great video, I am 6’2” (like you I believe), how did you feel the Reach of the Spur in the XL you reviewed?
Did you feel comfortable ?
Thanks in advance 👍
Yes. Felt great. Doesn’t mean they will necessarily be the case for you though. Body proportions will play a big role in that. A test ride or demo will always be your best bet.
Torn between this new spur and a tallboy for an efficient "backcountry" all day epic kind of bike that'll handle chunky terrain. Demo'd a tallboy last November and really enjoyed it, especially for how bottomless and capable it felt descending. Sounds like the tallboy has it beat on the descents but not so much on the climbs from your review. What made the spur feel better climbing besides being a couple pounds lighter?
The Spur certainly has the TB beat on climbs. It is more efficient, rolls quicker and is much lighter. The Climbing position is better too.
On descents, I think they are neck and neck. The Spur feels just as bottomless but maybe a little less plush in the initial stroke. The extra 10mm of fork travel is helpful too. That said, I'd say the Spur. an hold it's own just fine with the TB.
Biker's Edge you did mention at one point that the Tallboy felt more “poppy”. I’m in relatively flat terrain so not a lot of higher speed descending. I rode the Tallboy and it was fun, but came to life the faster I went. So by more poppy, do you mean at higher speeds? Honestly I’d be happy with a Tallboy all day long as my next bike, but if this thing is a bit more engaging at lower speeds that would be a plus...what would you say on that. I want something that likes to pump and rail corners. The TB was good, but at lower speeds didn’t feel like a standout
The Spur has slightly steeper geo than the TB so it will tend to handle better at slow speeds. The Tallboy felt "poppier" as in it was easier to get higher off of jumps than the Spur.
The Spur feels amazing in the corners. The suspension is very supportive so you get a little more return when pumping through berms and corners.
Huge props for not dying. 😂
Thank you. I did my best.
Thoughts on this bike for rooty, rocky tech and punchy climbs? (New England)
I’m not familiar with New England trails. This bike isn’t as nimble as others in the category but it handles tech and high speeds very well. It’s a great climber too. If your trails get really tight, there might be other bikes that would suit your trails better. I’m thinking of the SB115, Ripley and possibly the Tallboy.
Hi a few questions, What is your weight? do you think a lighter rider would benefit much when going down hill in regards to available travel and your thoughts on BB height on techy climbing( would a shorter crank be better?) and what is the widest tire you think it would run? Thanks for your review.
I weigh 180. I don’t think weight has anything to do with travel amounts. I can tune my shock for my weight just like a lighter rider would tune it for theirs.
I haven’t noticed a ton of pedal strikes, although a 170mm crank wouldn’t hurt. I think technique prevents pedal strikes more than anything.
I ran a 2.4 dissector on the rear. I really wouldn’t go wider than that. The fork will clear wider though.
How does it compare to transition smuggler or evil the following? especially on the downhills
It's been too long since I've ridden a smuggler and I haven't ridden the new Following. Can't really say.
Great review! Any idea where I can find a black medium XO1 build in stock before the end of August? I would really love to have this bike for my upcoming cross-country road trip -- I'll be riding in UT, CO, KS, AR, TN, VA, and NC! I'm completely serious. I'll buy one tomorrow if you can help me find it and the deal is decent. I've been calling everywhere, but no luck so far. (I found a size Large, but no mediums) Please let me know!
They’re a little tough to find right now. As with almost every bike these days.
Hey were did you find the Large
@@dpglky - probably not there any more, but the one I saw was at The Hub in Bentonville, AR.
Great video! Would you say this Spur climbs better than the Ripley AF for No Utah mellow trails? (Mueller, Sardene, Antelope)
It’s much lighter than the Ripley, but the Ripley pedals more efficiently.
@@bikersedge Thanks.
If I wasn’t racing xc this would be my bike I love DH and Enduro and I have an enduro bike but my local trails are xc so I’m just doing so xc racing and I didn’t think xc racing would be that fun
Speaking of transitions.. are you going to do a review on the Sentinel?
We are still trying to get our hands on one. It's a little tricky at the moment.
Hi do you recommend cushcore in the back to help with more traction and small bump?
On a bike like this I don’t think it’s necessary.
Hey I like that, a New mountain Bike Category: *"XC Marathon"* - 7:17 I like it.
@@meteormedia7021 For describing a type of ride/race or *_bike_* genre?
Ive had the Spur for last few months. In also have Ripley with Pike at 130. I am not blowing through front fork and have slightly less air pressure and find the spur not anywhere near as plush as Ripley with Pike. What are your thoughts on a pike or 34 on Spur or other adjustments you would recommend on SID to make a bit more plush, but keep quick and other attributes? Thanks in advance
I'd say go for it. If you're pushing the bike hard, the Pike will only help.
Thanks. Believe you had fox 34 on yours. Thoughts on that versus pike?
I’ll take a Pike over a 34 every day of the week. Although the new Grip 2 damper on the 34 feels pretty good.
SID is a better shock than the 34. If you want your spur to really wake up send both the fork and shock to Avalanche. Best thing you could possibly do for your suspension. Words can't describe....
I just got a Spur and had the same problem with the front end being harsh. Did you make any changes that helped? I might try the Tru Tune insert.
How would you compare the Spur to the Ibis Ripley? Better Climbing, but worse descending?
It's close, but I'd say better climbing. Doesn't hurt that it's lighter. On the DH they are pretty similar.
Utah is hot lately. Surprised you didn’t wait tell later in the day.
Maybe it was a Spur of the moment thing😄
And heatstroke is no joke. Be careful my friend.
I'm still struggling to Transition into summer riding. Sometimes I still think it's spring.
When you forget your water better giddy up on our of there.
are you planning on doing a review on the Transition Sentinel?
It's in the works. Just trying to get our hands on a demo.
This was a great review!
Will you guys be able to throw in the Izzo with this bunch of reviews and upcoming comparison?
Hey thanks! We don't have access to YT so thats a no go on the Izzo, unfortunately.
What a great review! Curious about your Fox 34 up front. Was it 120mm travel, or was it bumped to 130mm? What was the reason you swapped out the SID?
It's at 120mm travel. We built this bike up from the frame, hence the custom components. I ended up buying a Spur as my personal bike with the standard SID. I think I prefer the Sid over the 34.
Giddy up !!
What's strapped to the top tub in the intro photos?
A Blackburn tubeless plug kit.
I am looking at the 2021 RM Element Carbon 90, wondering if you have ridden one of those? I already have a 2019 Instinct BC and looking for a shorter travel and lighter bike as well because i dont ride rougher trails all the time thus i dont need the BC travel 100% of the time
I haven't ridden the element. The Spur sounds like a good option for lighter and shorter travel. I own one of those and ride it about 80% of the time.
@@bikersedge A few other channels have great things to say about the Spur but i checked Transition site and the XO version is sold out, waiting to here back from RM dealer i bought my BC from about the Element C-90, seems lots of bikes are in short supply now so i will wait and look
Yeah the Spur is sold out. The pandemic and huge increase in new riders this year have made inventory pretty tricky.
@@bikersedge Not in a rush, i can keep an eye on PINKBIKE but if i can get a 2021 Element carbon 90 i will probably go with that
Is there any benefit having the fox fork over the Sid ????
We built this one from the frame up before the SID was readily available. That’s why it has the Fox. Comes down to preference I guess.
Did you say climbs better then an Ibis Ripley!?! Woah.. gonna need to see that for myself
Would also love to hear a comparison on this & the SB100 or 115 possibly 👍🏼
Also. Epic Evo comparison. Epic’s frame is crazy light.
Please hold. We have that exact video in the works.
Biker's Edge Nice figured as such! 🤘🏼
Biker's Edge Still a bit curious about that Spur climbing better then the Ibis Ripley statement tho
I have a sentinel and I am considering a second bike for long rides such as Wasatch crest. I also want a second bike so that I can have a bike that people new to the sport can try. I am considering the spur and the revel ranger. Which do you think will be better knowing that I have a sentinel?
I think either one of those bikes would be a great option for long rides. I don’t think either one would be great for people new to the sport though. They require some decent bike handling skills to ride a wide variety of terrain.
@@bikersedge that make sense. Most learned on a hard tail though. I feel a full suspension short travel trail would be more forgiving than a hard tail maybe? Either way. If it was a more techy day I would probably have the new rider ride my sentinel and I would ride the secondary bike.
Historically it looks like you demod both the spur and the ranger. When might I be able to swing by to try both out? I have a short list of several bikes I would love to test and you carry them all but due to supply issues I am not sure what you are actually deoming these days.
Hey I'm thinking about moving to the Park City area, how hot are the summers? Humidity?
Summers are dry, hot and dusty. Just how we like them. Honestly Park City is an awesome little mountain town. I’d move there in a heartbeat if I could.
@@bikersedge 🤙
How do you think this would compare to the following v3
Haven’t ridden one so I can’t say. On paper they look pretty close though.
As below looking for a comparison between this bike and the SB115 & Revel Ranger. The new 3.
We are also going to throw the Scalpel SE and Orbea Oiz TR in the mix. It’s going to be big.
@@bikersedge yt izzo
New top fuel
New epic
New scalpel (my favorite)
New oiz
New yeti 115. 😅😅😅
And... I'm new in the channel by the way. 👍🏽
@@bikersedge Do you know when you will release it?
@@ckk9315 We are just waiting on our SB115 demo to show up. Hoping for next week sometime.
@@bikersedge you can keep the Scalpel and Oiz, still XC. The 115 to 120 suspension with slacker geo is the sweet spot. My bet is on the Yeti but Transition may have learned how to build a short travel.
do you think the Spur would hold up for a clydesdale?
Not a problem at all. The frame is plenty stout. If you want one step burlier, the Tallboy would be a great option too. That frame is really stiff.
I really like many thing about this bike, but once you said it isn't as poppy as Tallboy it still makes me want to go with Tallboy even if it's 5 pounds heavier.
There's something to be said for a bike that jumps well. The Spur isn't bad by any means. The Tallboy is just exceptional.
The other day I rode a Specialized Camber carbon, old 2017 model, 120 mm front and rear, really light XCish, got to a speed bump and tried to use It as a mini ramp to pop the bike up... what a dissapointment, bike barely separated from the ground... I ride a tallboy 4 as my main ride, that thing just pops off the ground with so much ease... it is crazy fun.
Thoughts on the fox 34 sc vs the Sid on the spur? Trying to sort out with fork to go with
I ended up with a standard 34 on mine.
@@bikersedge thanks! What influenced that decision? Grip 2 damper?
Actually mine only had the fit 4. I had to send the SID back for the bushing play warranty. While I waited I threw a 34 on there so I could keep riding. Ended up just sticking with it since it was on there. They’re both solid forks. 34 feels a bit burlier than the SID.
Respect how you managed to avoid saying down country bike.
I made a conscious effort to not say it. Took so much concentration.
after riding all these bikes, what is your prefered ride?
Like what do I have in my garage? A Yeti SB160 and an Orbea Wild.
What hubs were you running ???
i9 Hydra
How tall are you, you mentioned sizing down to a large.
I'm 6'2" For the one I bought, I ended up getting the XL and running a stubby stem.
@@bikersedge Did you regret not going with an L and 50mm stem after having ridden it?
No regrets. I rode the L with the 50mm stem before I bought my XL.
Where are you riding?
Park City, UT
Woah. SB115 anytime soon?
Sure thing. Just waiting on some demos to come in.
Biker's Edge SUBBED!
Thanks!
Haha! I was #100 thumbs up!
Whoa, at first glance it looks a lot like a 2020 Switchblade. 0:45
It could probably benefit from a 140mm fork for overall Trail riding.
Frame flex? No bushing? Can you say frame flex fatigue & failure? - Lost me.
Thanks for the review.
Transition specifically recommends not running greater than a 120mm fork. I thing with 140 up front the rear would start getting pretty outgunned.
Instead of a typical Horst link with a pivot near the rear axle this frame is basically a single pivot that relies on seat stay flex near the axle. It actually works very well.
You haven't been riding because you had a broken neck!? Thats weak! Haha. Im really interested in this bike to replace my hardtail on rides my enduro bike is way over the top for. just worried 120 on the front isn't enough. Hopefully i can get a test in the UK
If I had only broken 5 vertebrae I would have still ridden, but the 6th was too many to ride responsibly.
I normally ride big bikes but the Spur has been very solid. No issues with 120 up front. It’s not the bike for DH terrain but it’s great for flowy and fast stuff.
@@bikersedge Ha, hope you feel better now.
Ive watched all the vid now and you compare it favourably to the ripley and i tested one of those last year and loved it. I had one on order but after 5 months of waiting i lost interest!
Good review, although my bank account may think otherwise :)
What glasses are you wearing?
I'm wondering too. They look sick.
Smith Wildcat
How did you manage to break your neck? Then decide for your first ride, to ride a 120 mm xc/trail bike downhill at high speed. Oh and no hydration in scorching heat?! Smh, however I love the review. What are your thoughts on this bike for a big guy at 6’4” 215 ish who wants a great pedaling light trail bike for long flowing rides with very little chunder , drops and jumps.
I tanked it on the bike in Green River. Going head first into the ground isn’t good for you apparently.
I think it’s a great option for you. It pedals so well, handles bumpy stuff really well and is just a very engaging ride.
Biker's Edge yes going OTB head first into the ground isn’t good for your spine or any part of your body! I recently separated a few ribs and broke one, and at 46 the ground seems to be much harder! Glad you recovered and can continue riding! I have a hard hitting trail(Commencal) trail smasher but love how Transition put this 120 mm travel xc/trail rocket geo together! Wasn’t expecting this from them and when I first saw it knew it would be a good choice. Now all I got to do is put that $$$$ together and pull the trigger.
@@jeremiah-lo-mein Glad I'm walking/riding too. It was a close call.
Let us know when you've found enough spare change in the couch cushions and we can help you out with getting a new Spur!
Ride the Revel Ranger... compare them
It’s in the plans.
You broke your neck? When and how?
Crashed my bike. It was a year ago. All better now.
@@bikersedge good to hear all better. And only two months off. I take two months off with sore wrists.
I ate a couple vegetables to speed up the healing.
Did you say you broke your neck?
Yeah. Just a little bit.
Its not an XC bike buddy, its a lightweight trail bike that the perfect choice for East coast single track. The problem is that the entire MTB industry has become oriented toward west coast downhill coasters and not athletic people who actually pedal
You saying I’m not athletic?
Awesome title lol
Hey thanks!
*"Better climbing... than an Ibis Ripley"???? **4:32** Seriously?* That's like saying Better tasting than Thai food or better looking than a Ferrari! I'm sorry, I'm skeptical about that one.
Let’s not be silly. Nothing tastes better than Thai food.
trail, cuz its got g2 4 piston brakes
Too slow for XC
with this kind of
Head Angle & Geometry.
This can't keep up
with the likes of
Scott Spark & Canyon Lux.
But also smashes those bikes on the DH.
@@bikersedge Smashes if the rider's overweight!..🤣
Bro, you broke you neck?
Yeah just a little bit. All good now though.
its not really an xc bike with a 1x...
Go watch a World Cup XC race from last year. If you find a single bike without a 1x I’ll eat my own words.
@@bikersedge How about you go watch a world cup xc race and show me ONE race run on actual mtb course. (And the the bullshit 'made for spectators' race track around the parking lot). I've done the cascade creampuff and breck epic. No way in hell I finish those with a 1x (not that some people didn't) but I was able to keep up with (and beat) people in better shape because I always had the 'right' gear...
I bet the folks who won Breck Epic were on a 1x...
Different strokes for different folks.
@@bikersedge maybe, but I'm just an average joe, my mortal legs/lungs can't handle 4-6 jump in gears between each gear... All the people i ride with who have 1x are always either spinning more than they want, or grinding more than they want. Which is stupid...
Agreed. The smaller jumps can be nice. I'm always in the 50 tooth cog struggling to breathe anyway.
Is Not an XC bike,..... It is a Down Country bike!! Not the same.. :(
That’s why it’s the XC bike for people who wear knee pads.