I'm gonna try this tonight. I've always felt some amount of tension with paradiddles, so hopefully this helps me out! Thanks for putting out these amazing videos!
Pete Yaskovic ...and I am glad you dug the soloing vid. Those concepts were a bit of a mystery to me when I was a young player. I’m glad I can pass them on.
@@Thedrummersalmanac I've never been real confident in soloing, grooving and pocket have always been my strong suit. Honestly I was a little embarrassed to ask my drumming peers how they could me up with all their ideas or structure. You kinda solved this for me!
I had this problem a few years back, as I reached a point I couldn’t play a paradiddle any faster, the I saw a video from John Wooton where he said in order to play the paradiddle fast you have to be able to play it slow! Showing the motions you described in this video!
Bhavesh Solanki ...this has been around a long long time. It just seems that modern drummers don’t learn it this way anymore. The first time I was turned on to it was the Chaffee stuff, but since then I’ve seen it in old rudimental books. They indicate the positions with down and up arrows.
@@bhaveshsolanki6485 ... Not so much more evenly. Just not very efficiently... In other words, they are pulling the up-stroke too late... It kind of mosies on up while they are in the diddles. By that point... it's too late. In the formal style... All motion should stop before the next stroke. That means the upstroke is finished before you start tapping.
Very interesting. So in a sense, you're teaching to treat the first two notes of a paradiddle as a kind of reverse flam. Or at least, that's how this method feels to me. Thanks a lot, I'll definitely get to practicing this one!
Sure… you could think of it like that for the feel of it… but a flam is not separated into 2 separate rhythmic values. It one note with a Grace note attached. The grace note has no rhythmic value. But with this example… the down stroke & the upstroke, each would be their own note value. For example two 16th notes…
The first person I heard talking about this was John Wooton...I wish I had given it more consideration. Seeing it applied to the paradiddle is really helpful! 👌
Jay, fantastic video! Going back to school after a lifetime of playing professionally. Curiously, what software are you using to do the handwriting cartoon/graphic?
Thanks Jay, I struggled a bit trying to do it at first, then I tried saying 'down up tap tap' at the same time and the hands just seemed to sync with the words.
Heres two ideas for new videos How to remember songs. I hear pro drummers sometimes have less than a week to learn 20 songs, sounds difficult & charting songs is time consuming & looks kinda confusing, imagine looking at that the entire show. Also, playing ON TOP of the beat, ON THE BEAT & BEHIND the beat. I practice this somewhat frequent with each limb. However, when playing a grove Im not sure if i should move the snare (on top or behind the beat) & leave the bass & HH or do all three limbs move (on top or behind). in short, do they all move together or just one of the three move? Thanks!
Just tried this for a few minutes and it did help me understand the movement a lot better! My left hand still isn't as fast or well controlled as my right one though, specially on the left "tap tap" part. Any tips for that? Will keep practicing :)
Jay thank you for all of your terrific lessons. You teach two taps for the diddle here, but some people play a double stroke instead. Which is correct? They are different, right?
They are both correct... it’s a matter of tempo. Like an open drum roll. When it’s slow you feel each note of the double. Once you reach a certain tempo the individual strokes become open doubles. Same with the paradiddle. Once it hits a tempo threshold, both those taps become one open double. I hope that makes sense.
@@Thedrummersalmanac makes perfect sense thank you! At what BPM does that transition typically happen? Would be a cool TikTok video for you to do in slow motion to see the transition
@@Thedrummersalmanac 😆 woke my muscles up anyway, good for this lesson. Recently discovered your videos, trying to unlearn all my bad habits - really great stuff in here! Greetings from Cork, Ireland
kdrum8 ...Ha... we were studying with him at the same time. Him and I are still close. I talk to him all the time. I’ll mention you said hi. He’ll get a kick outa the fact that you spotted his notes.
It does not matter is you start righty or lefty... When you just follow the accent positions that I talk about in the video... The sticking will just work. It has no other choice. If the positions are accurate, the sticking will be too.
Oh, geez….brother! Just tell the actual method. I do NOT need all the numbers of muscle stuff, baseball metaphors…..blah blah. I’m afraid you have put FAR too much thought into this than is required. I see where you are going, but unfortunately I just lost all will to live after all of this……….whatever. Thanks anyway.
Tbh you don't sound very clean doing them. Almost mechanical. The mechanics are there but the rebounds are what give you that effortless feel. Sorry but there are better methods out there.
You’re not doing it slowly enough and not showing the tap stroke clearly enough. I’m so tired of trying learn this rudiment from anyone! I’ve tried watching dozens of videos. I guess I need to sell my kit and give up trying to learn drums. Arrrrgh!
Chill, bro. I have Same problem, but that’s not the reason to give up. Try another way , individual lessons, play another rudiments etc. Drumming it’s not only to play paradiddle fast 😅
How do you teach paradiddles? Have you ever done it this way?
Sorry to my guys in the live chat... UA-cam cut it off. Feel free to ask me anything over here... I answer every single comment
I'm gonna try this tonight. I've always felt some amount of tension with paradiddles, so hopefully this helps me out! Thanks for putting out these amazing videos!
Also, your soloing video was Exactly what I needed as a new band I'm in requires a solo from me.
When you start to get it ... it is indeed life changing. My whole touch in the drums changed from studying those accents.
Pete Yaskovic ...and I am glad you dug the soloing vid. Those concepts were a bit of a mystery to me when I was a young player. I’m glad I can pass them on.
@@Thedrummersalmanac I've never been real confident in soloing, grooving and pocket have always been my strong suit. Honestly I was a little embarrassed to ask my drumming peers how they could me up with all their ideas or structure. You kinda solved this for me!
I had this problem a few years back, as I reached a point I couldn’t play a paradiddle any faster, the I saw a video from John Wooton where he said in order to play the paradiddle fast you have to be able to play it slow! Showing the motions you described in this video!
Bhavesh Solanki ...this has been around a long long time. It just seems that modern drummers don’t learn it this way anymore. The first time I was turned on to it was the Chaffee stuff, but since then I’ve seen it in old rudimental books. They indicate the positions with down and up arrows.
thedrummersalmanac that’s interesting do you see a lot of new guys playing it more evenly?
@@bhaveshsolanki6485 ... Not so much more evenly. Just not very efficiently... In other words, they are pulling the up-stroke too late... It kind of mosies on up while they are in the diddles. By that point... it's too late. In the formal style... All motion should stop before the next stroke. That means the upstroke is finished before you start tapping.
DUTT’s a revelation mate! Now I’m smiling not frowning when I practice, thank you soo much 👏🇦🇺🎄✌️
Very interesting. So in a sense, you're teaching to treat the first two notes of a paradiddle as a kind of reverse flam. Or at least, that's how this method feels to me. Thanks a lot, I'll definitely get to practicing this one!
Sure… you could think of it like that for the feel of it… but a flam is not separated into 2 separate rhythmic values. It one note with a Grace note attached. The grace note has no rhythmic value. But with this example… the down stroke & the upstroke, each would be their own note value. For example two 16th notes…
As someone in their second semester of taking percussion, this helped me out tremendously. Thank you for making this video!
Glad it helped!
Man, your YT library is a treasure trove of percussion goodness. Gonna try this, but I'm already certain it's gonna be a game changer.
Awesome! Thanks for the support, my friend 🙌🏻
Great lesson Jay, 10 minutes of gold!
Inspired by you buddy! Remember when we talked about this during the hang? I said it would make a good video.
I flinched hard asl at 7:02
lol... Mission accomplished
The first person I heard talking about this was John Wooton...I wish I had given it more consideration. Seeing it applied to the paradiddle is really helpful! 👌
This was amazingly helpful. You have no idea. It was like a bulb finally went on in my head and I got it. Thank you
Absolute brilliance. Goodbye paradiddles, HELLOOOO DUTT DUTTs !!!
Must have watched 100s of PD videos and this one is the most intelligent analysis of the rudiment I've seen
Wow.. thank you so much
Awesome explanation. Wish I would have seen this years ago.
Thankyou man you enlightened my parrididdle!
Been practicing this for about 2 weeks.. my paraddidle has gone from 160bpm to 200bpm!! thank you Almanac!!
Great job!
Love this!! Thanks for sharing
This sheet will be great for my students. Can I purchase it from you?
Helpful info. Thanks
Jay, fantastic video! Going back to school after a lifetime of playing professionally. Curiously, what software are you using to do the handwriting cartoon/graphic?
Thanks Jay, I struggled a bit trying to do it at first, then I tried saying 'down up tap tap' at the same time and the hands just seemed to sync with the words.
I always say "Lead with your HEAD, not your HANDS!"
Yeah, the same principle, in the form of counting out loud, helped immensely with my time.
Easily the best lesson I’ve seen on paradiddles
I truly appreciate that, Jason! Thanks
Awesome lesson Jay. Thanks for educating.
My pleasure! John. Thanks for watching
Heres two ideas for new videos
How to remember songs. I hear pro drummers sometimes have less than a week to learn 20 songs, sounds difficult & charting songs is time consuming & looks kinda confusing, imagine looking at that the entire show.
Also, playing ON TOP of the beat, ON THE BEAT & BEHIND the beat. I practice this somewhat frequent with each limb. However, when playing a grove Im not sure if i should move the snare (on top or behind the beat) & leave the bass & HH or do all three limbs move (on top or behind). in short, do they all move together or just one of the three move? Thanks!
Just tried this for a few minutes and it did help me understand the movement a lot better! My left hand still isn't as fast or well controlled as my right one though, specially on the left "tap tap" part. Any tips for that? Will keep practicing :)
So excellent thank you
I'm practicing this now for helping my hand because I only have more pattern on feet than my hand
Great way of explaining/teaching it! Great upload
Thanks, Adam. I appreciate it... Just, wish I could turn them around faster. It takes flippin' forever! lol
I DO teach paradiddles that way and have for some time yet mine are nowhere close to yours in speed. I've just never been able to get the fast.
Excelent lesson
One key subtlety I think you didn't really mention is that the second beat is also a tiny tap.
But it's nature... an "up stroke" is a quiet tap.
Thank you
You're welcome
Jay thank you for all of your terrific lessons. You teach two taps for the diddle here, but some people play a double stroke instead. Which is correct? They are different, right?
They are both correct... it’s a matter of tempo. Like an open drum roll. When it’s slow you feel each note of the double. Once you reach a certain tempo the individual strokes become open doubles. Same with the paradiddle. Once it hits a tempo threshold, both those taps become one open double. I hope that makes sense.
@@Thedrummersalmanac makes perfect sense thank you! At what BPM does that transition typically happen? Would be a cool TikTok video for you to do in slow motion to see the transition
thank you ive been playing over 50yrs and i still cant play them any faster than 140bpm peter.
Are you using molar stroke
That pitching video clip scared the living shit out me.
😂 Goal achieved!
@@Thedrummersalmanac 😆 woke my muscles up anyway, good for this lesson. Recently discovered your videos, trying to unlearn all my bad habits - really great stuff in here! Greetings from Cork, Ireland
mind blowing THANKS!!
Glad you dug it... Think of this rudiment, and all rudiments actually, really changes the game!
cool so entertaining lesson
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
I could’ve sworn you taught me how to play paradiddles specifically the way you’re saying not to. I could be wrong though.
I probably showed you both ways. Lol ... I think I have it video though.
Very helpful tutorial! 231st like!
Glad you dug it!!!
What is please your muffle system for the hi-hat?
Evans sound off HH mute: www.amazon.com/SoundOff-Evans-Hi-Hat-Mute-Inch/dp/B000P5M83W
@@Thedrummersalmanac Thanks a lot man. 👍
Looks like some Dave Stark notes in your book!
kdrum8 ...wow... good eye! Who is this?! Those were indeed Dave Stark notes. He’s the one that turned me on to Chaffee back in the day.
@@Thedrummersalmanac Kenny Frank here. I studied with Dave from 92-96 if I recall. He turned me on to Chaffee too.
kdrum8 ...Ha... we were studying with him at the same time. Him and I are still close. I talk to him all the time. I’ll mention you said hi. He’ll get a kick outa the fact that you spotted his notes.
@@kdrum8 Dave just messaged me back: "Of course I remember Kenny! That's hysterical that he pointed out my handwriting! Haha!"
I think this method is rather uncomfortable using matched grip
missing a stroke on the up or am i not seein it RLRR LRLL
I hate rudiments -.-
Why?
I dont get it .
Can assent be changed to left
It does not matter is you start righty or lefty... When you just follow the accent positions that I talk about in the video... The sticking will just work. It has no other choice. If the positions are accurate, the sticking will be too.
I've never taught a paradiddle to anyone so can't help out with this!
Tom Voorhees ...well, now you know how 🙃
:o hell yes
The up stroke feels really unnatural to me
Practice…
Oh, geez….brother! Just tell the actual method. I do NOT need all the numbers of muscle stuff, baseball metaphors…..blah blah. I’m afraid you have put FAR too much thought into this than is required. I see where you are going, but unfortunately I just lost all will to live after all of this……….whatever. Thanks anyway.
Tbh you don't sound very clean doing them. Almost mechanical. The mechanics are there but the rebounds are what give you that effortless feel. Sorry but there are better methods out there.
You’re not doing it slowly enough and not showing the tap stroke clearly enough. I’m so tired of trying learn this rudiment from anyone! I’ve tried watching dozens of videos. I guess I need to sell my kit and give up trying to learn drums. Arrrrgh!
Have you tried somthing call somthing call tryactin?
... try actin like a man
Chill, bro. I have Same problem, but that’s not the reason to give up. Try another way , individual lessons, play another rudiments etc. Drumming it’s not only to play paradiddle fast 😅
Stop relying on internet videos and find a good teacher
@@hauntedhose Good advice. Wish I could find one.