Nutnfancy RIFLE CARRY OPTIONS: Eberlestock and More
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
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Having carried a M14 in an Eberlestock in the mountains of Afghanistan, it is overbuilt, I took some of the outside pouches off that were issued to me. I also almost never carried the M14 in my hands or by sling. I also carried parts of the Barrett system in my bag because it is how we decided to carry the system because we only used it to disable vehicles to discourage combatants from following us in vehicles. We stripped everything down to bare minimums and on most loadouts we only carried my M14 as a long range system. I was able to carry it that way because I was also issued an m4 with a 10.5" upper on it. the Eberlestock was trashed at the end of the deployment but I sent a picture of it to the company and I was told to send it in and they would replace it. The team after us used a mystery ranch with an Eberlestock insert. I hear it was a lot lighter. As a Civilian I use Drag bag type bags to pad a rifle inside a pelican instead of foam. Foam tears up too easy and ends up melting to hot weapons, if I have to throw a hot weapon in a vehicle I prefer to make it portable if its in a vehicle because Vehicles are big targets you cant carry when they break down.
BTW Magpul has AI compatible mags coming out soon from what I'm told.
Know what you mean, The movie shooter showed a tiny bag then he suddenly has a Guillie suit, For urinating we carried a PVC pipe we drove into the ground (When able) and pi$$ed in that, the pvc pipe had slashes in it and a cap so you didnt need to smell it, goats are attracted to urine unbelievably.
Phu Vet Oh dude, I pinged this over to NF and he tweeted it! Solid comment. -TD
+nutnfancy
cool, thanks bro, glad to see I can still put together a connected thought after a brain injury.
I love these old fashion gear vids. No one on YT has more credibility than you. Honesty at its finest, the others are just QVC salesman. Thank you for your candid and profecient videos. Your channel cannot be duplicated, because its the original sportsman channel. Keep on rocking my friend, I appreciate your expertise and knowledgeable opinions.
The beginning of this video is nonsense. There is no way you are outpacing me. I need videos every day!!!!! :) Been a TNPer since 2008. Need vids!!!
Not to sound ungrateful for all your hard work, but I have to agree. Just do whatever you are comfortable with; however, know that I for one am just about always interested in hearing what you have to say.
catchacoolbreeze typical of his video beginnings, except is usually 10 minutes of intro so this shorter nonsense was appreciated.
IHO Red skies was the best series ever. I can't imagine how much work went into those videos. Thanks again Nutn.
Realism is the order of the day here in TNP. So let's consider how to carry a 13 lb long range rifle into our "area of operations." Which would be better: Condor Drag Bag or the Eberlestock Gunslinger II. Both have been tested heavily and it's time to bring it all together in another original systems discussion in TNP. -nutn
Yeah, exactly: with some 338LM's even being 9.5lb (empty/no optics), and DPMS's 6.5CM/260R being as little as 7.5lb with 22"bbl -- despite that SEMIAUTO action's extra WEIGHT, no reason to lug 12+ lbs; that's a benchrest queen, not a very pragmatic, *FIELDABLE* unit in terms of its capabilities-vs-weight ratio, but I bet ISIS would consider it better & more pragmatic than...half of the JUNK they shoot with, so if it's "what you happened to inherit from your crazy uncle," it's at least better than nothing, but I'd sell it to a benchrest guy & buy 2-3 DECENT BUT LIGHT rifles (of AR10/LR308-class characteristics) with what that thing is probably worth.
+nutnfancy ......."Realism is the order of the day here in TNP." Well, don't think so, nutn. All you preppers think tomorrow you're going to have to go to war so you need to know how to "carry your sniper rifle into battle". Yea, go with that, nutn. I shoot. I like my M1A, Glock and shotgun but I'm not some wannabe operator who's prepping for WW3 in his basement. I love it when I watch all these videos with guys in camo, war paint, balaclavas and survival gear. Its a good laugh. Oh, by the way, 4 years USMC.
Ready to bump up from 1/5 to 3/5 of nutn's content... only channel that I watch ALL vids.... drooling for more on the Tika
Thanks for all you do. Life has gotten in the way of my youtube time and I have not been able to keep up even with your moderated pace. Interestingly your advice to live to impress yourself will cause many of your viewers to have much less time to view your work, something to ponder.
Idea for a video: Make a group of gamer kids haul body armor, two rifles, a pistol, a big knife and make them run around like they do in their video game, switching guns.
I have two of the drag bags and I love em. I can overload them where they suck to carry for a long day at the range. Once you get there its nice to have ALL of your stuff.
Hey Nutn I live your videos! If it was anyone else talking about the things you do it'd be boring. You're really entertaining and informative about your reviews and such. Keep up the good work! Shout out from Canada!
So glad that I am not the only one that hates water bladders! Canteen all the way!
The G4 Operator is 4700ci (I believe). Enough room for 5 days if you eat light. Weighs about 10lbs, Mine fully loaded with ar-15 and six loaded 30rd mags, food sleep system, and 6 liters of water is around 80lbs. Very heavy, but doable, and I would think I could pull off 3-4 days fairly comfortably. Haven't done it yet, but looking forward to trying.
One of the many things I like about your channel is that you actually take the gear out and use it. Then you can say something about it..., I really agree with other posters -- I can go through more vids. I listen to 'em while I commute and if I need to go back and watch it later, I will. Turn it up if you can!
oooh the 'Mistress' ! such an elegant rifle and great bag vid
1ST of all im not a 1/5 TNPR , I can keep up and get alerted on my phone every time you put up a video !!!!!!!!!!! I told you before I don't watch TV !!!! so please keep the vids coming !!!!!!! Thanks for all your time and the CREW !!!!!!!
Hey Nutn' I think you should put out whatever content you want when you want. If you haven't noticed it's loved and appreciated.
On topic; I've had my Eberlestock Half Track for several years, absolutely love it as a small bomb proof pack. THAT IS, when the weight is not an issue. Truly a pleasure to carry! I know not the pack we are referencing here but the point is that when their gear fits the bill it's worth every penny/ounce.
No way, Nutn! Droppin a tease for a video on a gun like that and makin me wait is so not fair!
People forget the word "tactical" when thinking of how much space you need. I've done 3-5 day hikes and only needed 2700 cu. in. But that's not tactical. Good vid.
I have never owned a Condor branded drag bag but I do own a drag bag. I also own a Eberlestock gunslinger 2. I will never go back to a drag bag. My eberlestock gunslinger 2 is the best system I have ever had.
Excellent vid Nutn ,can watch your reviews all day mate .
I love the looks on the barrels
I did the same thing: use a Condor DB with a Scout G2 1200 ci pack and some pods. I recommend you convert the Scout G2 to "ride like a shoulder pack" (google for more info). But overall, it's a good system.
Nutn, it's been several years since I have subscribed to your channel, but when are you gonna do a review on the Tikka T3 series of rifle?
hohenstaufenz
Tikka t3 is probably one of the best high value bolt guns out here and yet no one has done a proper review on it?
Nutn should totally review it!
I want to see a Tikka T3 Reviewed too!
hohenstaufenz He mentions it at around the 6:20 mark on the 6.5 Creedmoor video - A full review of his custom Tikka T3 was obviously planned around the same time, must be editing delays - "Tikka T3 NLR: Mistress of Dangerous Things"
hohenstaufenz Shot my friends Tikka T3 a month ago. Its in 30'06 I shot a 1 inch MOA I am not that good a shot at 100 yards.
hohenstaufenz he just made one, but you probably figured that out since you sub. The tikka t3 lite has the smoothest action under $750 that I have seen.
I bought a Midway-branded Condor drag bag in coyote tan. Twice a year or so Midway cuts the price in half, so I picked mine up for $63. I like mine; it's the only case I have that will fit my varmint rifle (26" barrel, 6" drop at toe, 44mm scope objective).
Just got the condor thanks to you nutnfancy big thumbs up
I have that Condor Drag Bag (in ACUPAT) and it's served me great, though I only have used it for range visits. It holds my full length Mossberg 500 or M91/30 though not by much. The construction on it seems fine. I really like the backpack straps (optional) on it rather than the handles or carrying strap; it allows you to carry the weight much easier.
But with the drag bag featuring only three pockets (and one nearly useless internal one), you can hardly carry much on/in it. Although, if you only put one gun in the bag, you'd have a little more room. Still... I wouldn't advise getting the drag bag with the intention of camping with it or storing much in it, though the price definitely beats the Gunslinger 2 price.
Thanks for the review nutn, it was really good.
This is why I love his reviews. I looked at the exact same eberlerstock pack a year ago and immediately felt it was lacking in capacity. After four years of active Army service and being sniper qualified i can attest that NutnFancy is absolutely correct. After loading first aid, comms, water, a few snacks, ammo, spotting gear, and probably a primary rifle like and M4 or Mk18, the gunslinger II comes up short, amazingly short. And lets not let the fact that even after all that you may still need to run Sapi plate armor be lost. The Gunslinger II is a day pack and nothing more. That all being said, if you can live within it's limitations, it's an exceptionally good pack. And if you haven't adapted to working through the limitations of available equipment, then you've already defeated yourself.
Hey nutn this completely unrelated but have you tried 6.5 grendel I think you will love it
Great to see some systems vids it's very hard to find resources on complete system setup
but nutn, how am i going to need a bag for my gun sitting here in my armchair being an internet expert.
kidding aside good video as always
I rewound the vid a few times just to look at that beautiful Tika
I've always been interested in these backpacks. Great vid learned a lot!
Eh I've never had an issue running packs ranging from 2,700' to 3,800' for multi day trips. CF 82 pattern and large Alice packs, going for 18 miles(only 30lbs in pack). Now both the CF and USMC use a two tiered system a very large ruck and an assault pack. For the marines your looking at a 4500 cubic inch pack with attachable 1,500 cubic inch assault pack.
Gunslinger II, (Get home Bag), G4 Operator (BOB), J107M Dragonfly(Inch Bag).
Eberlestock, two thumbs way up. Bravo Zulu, Col. Cheers, Mate.
Is the G4 bigger than the dragonfly
The G4 Operator is about 5K CI and the J107M
with a duffel attachment is about 8K CI
The J107M is scalable from 2.5K to 8K CI
It is the most versatile of the packs and has a scabbard, too.
I'm surprised that you think that 2700 isn't enough for 5 days I've gone out with much less. No tent and 3 MREs, extra clothes, rain gear, just basic stuff really, but we also learned how to pack like masters, making everything so compressible we could fit a lot in there. I did only have an M16 though, no huge rifles.
Wasn't red skies in 2012?
Dang I watch a lot of TNP..
i jsut watched john rambo and the sniper dude was carrying his barret 12 miles thru the jungle. AWSOME
If you need more space check out the G4 Operator. Similar features as the Gunslinger II but way more room.
Hey nutn.........
Got the gen 2 sub2k
Found a excellent bag that carries it, glock 17, 4 box's of ammo, mags, noise canceling ear protection, glasses, etc etc, but low profile. + bonus you blend in....
Thought of you when I got it.
Love your insight
Keep it up
Thank you for your time.......
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I think if you could find a side carry sling for under the arm, one strap each shoulder and one on the other side. I think you could carry it with a sling. I made one for my air-soft rifles out of some straps, foam and leather i had in my garage. Idk about a 5 hour hall with a 20 pound rifle and then idk say a 40-60 pound bag if not more, but my Cheytac M200 Gas Powered Bolt Action which is 18 pounds carry's very nicely all day on my side as when i go play, its all day and i have a bag with about 18-25 pounds full with an ar 15 (not always, depends what im playing and the ar 15 adds 7 pounds i.e 18-25) and a desert eagle air soft gun in the bag with lunch, ammo ect. That bag you showed off seems more practical for a long hall, especially a few days.
Saved the best suggestion for last, thank u
You should start a website and publish articles with simple 0-10 ratings on all philosophies of use. Sure it's been done before but you can also release the hour long videos aside it and link the article and the video to each other. That way the people who want to just hear the basics can easily get the information and those that like to hear you talk can go off and do that too. Hell you could even do gear combinations certain LBE could be linked to equipment and the like. This is all in a perfect world though costs money and time to run such an operation and could detract from the core of how the channel currently and has operated in the past.
If you're carrying two guns and two types of ammunition,the whole problem associated with weight between using a 5.56mm and 7.62mm x 51mm NATO is kind of thrown out the window. My opinion is, if you are going to try and carry around a sniper rifle, just carry around a marksmen rifle and replace your sniper rifle all together by upgrading your main rifle. You can't go full auto anyways, so you might as well consider upgrading your semi auto to the height it can, anyways.
A .308 battle rifle is probably fine, but if weight is a major concern, the 6.5mm Grendel is about as good as it gets in the intermediate area. You can get an Alexander Arms 6.5mm Grendel with 1 MOA for about 1500 dollars, and it has a range of about 1000 yards, with more energy at 600 yards than a standard .308 (but less than a sniper variant), although the ammo can go up to a dollar, but 50 cents or less, particularly if you hand load, is not unreasonable. Still probably beats the price of two guns, and you get other benefits, like increased power and range over the 5.56mm without losing the small size or drastically increasing recoil, so it seems fairly practical. Any 6.5mm grendel gun would be pretty neat, and the main reason it beats out the 6.8mm Remington in the marksman role is it's extremely high ballistic coefficient, which lets it go out to 1000 yards pretty easily, a max range of about 1200, which is about all you could practically need in any case.
Have you heard of Kifaru? i love those packs, bulletproof. Check out their gun bearer system kind of a more ready to shoot setup.
The reason the original gun slinger is better in some cases. It's lighter. I agree. Great packs. Thanks for the review. I usually hammock camp so it takes up less space and weight but won't work in the desert.
I do t think your outpacing, I think it's the fact that UA-cam doesn't always show your new videos in the subscription feed!
Have you seen the new Ruger RPR in 6.5 Creedmoor.. would love to see you do a review!
His response would be too heavy
I own one. Love it. Great pack.
I can definitely watch more than you can put out. But I understand about the rest of the subscriber base...
they raised the price of the Condor drag bag on Amazon to $200 in Multicam...wtf thanks Amazon!
a mod we used in Afghanistan when using a drag bag...take a 2 liter or milk jug and sew a piece on the nose of the bag so it doesnt get caught on the brush when we drag it....we'd drop our bags about 100m down the mountain side and paracord it up the side of the mountain, when you pull it it sometimes got caught until we put the plastic on it...shoe goo helps stabilize it as well.
Great information. Thanks for making these videos. Long time TNP'r here.
I have a voodoo tactical ultimate drag bag. Which will carry I believe a two 53in long guns. Looks to be the same quality as the condor and around the same price. I got the digital color because at the time multicam was very expensive and hard to find. I plan on doing a full review on it for my channel.
why didnt you drag it through the shale? i was disappointed to not see you drag it behind you. great vid though as usual nutnfancy showing things most people would never even consider.
Great comparison review!
Why wouldn't a Marine Corps IBLE work (other than it's heavy), Its got the size, pockets that you can fit a buttstock and strap the rifle down, plenty of molle straps and is strong. The price is right too.
I used an Eberlestock pack for two year before I finally decided to move on to something that was less weight and did not swing around so much while I was using it. No matter how much you cinch it down the rifle scabbard section still sways and swings while your walking and worse when you run. Great bag otherwise.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'd love to hear some of your opinions on Hill People Gear packs. I've got the Kit Bag, an Umlindi, and a Taramuhara that I love, though they aren't exactly designed as "tactical" gear.
I keep the Gunslinger in my vehicle (based on Nutn's old recommendation) designed to potentially carry my secretly hidden and locked ak underfold The Gunslinger has not moved since I put it in there a couple of years ago, so honestly, I don't remember half of what is in it. I imagine it would be like Xmas past if I had to get into it, so hopefully things did not all turn into a lump of coal, except of course actual coal is in there for some fire starting idea I had. This video makes me want to go take a peek.
If anyone needs a extra larger case, I have a Savage 110FCP 49.5" and I use a US Peacekeeper drag bag, 1000 Denier about $170 MSRP and about $120 online. Great quality and value and made in USA
The newer Gunslinger2 have a internal/external frame included.
nutnfancy I absolutely LOVE your precision rifle videos!! Just thought I'd let you know. Lol
Look at Eberlestock G4 operator if your worried about not having enough size..
BTW you spelled Eberlestock wrong there is no R after the le
Ah yes the good old gun slinger 2. I have enjoyed mine but I do feel the bag has a fatal flaw. When the bag is loaded up to capacity for extended outings it can get HEAVY. Back in December I spent some time in the North Georgia mountains with mine and by the time I loaded the bag with rifle, shooting gear, basic survival kit, shelter, water, and food the damn bag came in at over 60 lbs. And while the bag held up well the lack of an external frame or ability to utilize one became a major problem. If Elberlerstock would make a pack with an external frame I would buy it in a heart beat. But as it is now I am looking to replace the pack with something with an external frame for better weight management.
digitalballistics The new gun slinger has an integrated aluminum frame now.
+digitalballistics looked at the Warhammer?
Great Video... I have looked at Eberlerstock packs before, and liked them. I appreciate your opinion about it. Thanks
I loved the quality of the GS2 But I found that my model didn't fit my torso. The yoke adjusted all the way out the waist belt still rode higher than like. I'm only 6' but a longer than avg torso for my height.
Ultra lite available (Backpacking version) in the Blaze Camo that many states require hunters to wear in the US? I would be interested in that.
nutnfancy i love the gun reviews, love the knife vids, love the car and bike vids as well, but these types of videos are the best. do you need to spend tons of money on gear when there are other cheaper options out there? what are the pros/ cons? great video keep em coming!
Nutn, I just left you a comment about loading shotguns at the fn slp vid you produced. I have followed you for a few years now and really appreciate your work. Check out my advise. Your shotgun loading capabilities will improve greatly.
Thanks for saving me some money nutn!!
Eh... I have to disagree about making the Gunslinger 2 lighter by compromising on materials... Yes, it's true, if you don't watch the ounces then you'll miss the pounds, however, I believe in this case the 3 lb difference does not justify compromising on durability. Other than that minor difference in opinion though, I agree with everything you say, as I've come to expect! Great video!
Nutnfancy, for all of us over 50 years old it is the rifle plus 25lbs including the pack. Guys are just humping way too much gear. I used to work at Tactical Tailor. If it was a real event and you would have to "shoot and scoot" it's a Med Alice lightly loaded and a good pair of light weight scootin boots.
+nutnfancy Hi nutnfancy. Would you consider doing some test on the Mauser M03. You don't need to do any extensive testing with all the barrels and ammo types. Just maybe use the .338 (i know you have a soft spot for that round & so do I) and another ammo type of your choice. I just love that rifle. It's a engineering masterpiece and the mechanics is just prima. If you could get a rifle for borrow or rent,i would highly appreciate your thoughts on it. Excuse me if you have tested it already but i trawled through your videos but couldn't find it. Keep up making the awesome and informative videos. Much respect.
Love it. Great pack.
Nutn I have the same watch as you. Great vid, I've always though of getting one of these packs.
Can you do a vid on what bag you would run for a bugout bag? I know you've done philosophy vids on the matter.
You can definitely speed it up, Brother! We'll keep up.
Hey nutn, have you tried the Geigerrig hydration bladders? Love my 3L, slim and easy to clean, works well for day excursions or less. It does suffer from the rubbery taste issue like all bladders, but the inflation feature makes staying hydrated easy and works well for cleaning wounds/gear if needed. You've probably had this question asked before, but i thought I'd ask anyway. Have a good one!
Your A channel should be full review and b five minute review catching all your base.
so how much did the pack and drag bag weigh? also why not but sleeping bag exterior in dry pouch?
Question, how the hell do you know what to put in these bags and where do I put it in the bag?
wouldn't the kelty condor bag combo be substantially heavier than the single eberlestock bag? if you need more space with the eberlerstock bag why not carry a second bag like you would with the kelty? a second bag with the eberlerstock bag would still be lighter.
Hey Nutn'... This is kind of off topic but how do you hydrate without a camleback when you have a motorcycle helmet on? Or do you have one of those helmets where the face opens?
Also the Eberlerstock pack seems A LOT like the Marine Corp ILBE (Arcteryx) pack which is what I have and LOVE (so far)
FNX9, FNX40, FNX45 thoughts, reviews? just looking for a strong opinion
I want that NLR gun, love a Tikka.
Check out the Mystery Ranch new load carrying pack. Quite awesomd.
Love that tikka.
A video every other day is about what I can do, or 3-4 per week.
Hey! I have that camelback pouch on my 5.11 pack.
Don't drag anchor. I can't watch them fast enough nutn! Keep up the good work!
10lb DMR/SAPR 18" 308 MATEN (LR308 variant). Sling it or pack it? I've carried a SAW/240G when I was in much better shape for extended periods of time. But just wondering at what point is it considered too much weight for a sling? I am running a 3-15 SWFA SS scope in Larue mounts if that has any say on sling vs pack.
Are either of the bags lockable?
What's the tan pad the dude is laying on when he's shooting the desert tech at 3:09?? @nutnfancy
you should come to alberta rockies in winter and run around with a pack, we do it with a 80l pack for 3 nights, although its so could you dont really have to worry about getting wet... open invite tho nutin', we can provide guns to play with..
Kevin Mckeddie id even pay for your flight nutin'
You stress light guns then get a huge bad a standard gun sock would do or a sling even better pur it behind your right Arm barrel up the only way i hit it on stuff is if i walked straight into it
can you do a cartridge overview, im new to fire arms an would like to know about them?
Hey Nutn, how does one manage to go shoot with the project?
Review the j79 skycrane 2 if you could nutn!
On your rifle is that the kentic research X-ray chassis
who built the tikka? I need to send mine in. Thanks.
Could you do a review on a t/c dimension rifle?
if you would like to test the red rocks deluxe rifle backpack let me know. I will ship it, u use it for how ever long u wish and I will pay for return shipping. let me know.