My uncle bought a four cylinder perkins and six speed transmission from a wrecked wonder bread truck. He put in a mid seventies four door GMC pickup. He was a driller and drove his crew to the rig for years in it. Ran about 60 mph on the highway when you got in high gear with just a little throttle. They called it the green lizard, they had a awful green shade they used back then.
@@oklahomagoochgrabber7500 Sure, He moved farm equipment, and travel trailer with it after retiring from the oilfield. It traveled the road between Guthrie and the Thomas Faye field for several years back in tje sebenties and early eighties.
And you are right about either don’t ever spray a Perkins it will bust pistons but you did a really good job putting it in I’m a believer that what ever it takes to make it work 👍
cool good job..........I did this same swap in a 1985 GMC square body in about 1996.......354 perkins from a 2-105 white tractor( some parts come off a 760 massey combine) had trouble years later w the motor and found a new 6.0l perkins with same mounting( called a Phaser ) still inline 6 but 1998 technology still have it. Let me know if you want more info on it.............Clayton.........Canada
@@noahrothering3407 Still driving it.......28 years coming up....Yes 4WD light 3/4 ton reg cab ........but got lengthened out and is now a crew cab w 1 ton rear diff Engine is slightly higher in the front......trans shifted back 3 or 4 in 3in cab lift was the easy way to make room........Air bags in 4 corners A must in the front for oil pad clearance..... gear vendor over drive w 3.42 gears I readjusted the dip stick so it reads correct with the slight angle.........Clayton
I absolutely love that swap. I really like the idea of an old drivetrain in a newer truck. I want to put a 6.2 or 6.5 diesel in a gmt800. If I was you and wanted to make improvements for your swap, I'd look into some sort of overdrive solution.
That’s rad dude!! I picked up a 73 dodge that someone swapped a Perkins into, now I’m on mission to get it back on the road, got a couple videos up now on it.
@BubbaStew I am curious about the starter, too; or any parts sources. My Loadstar has the original Delco starter that was specified for those trucks. Will get it rebuilt if I suspect it is wore. It is a large starter and may already have a reduction unit.
Cool, I have a 1964 IH Loadstar 1800 with Perkins 6.354 turbo. 152 hp stock. Full air brakes, hydraulic power steering, and hydraulic clutch. IH 5 speed with low first gear and 2 speed EATON axle. 25,500 gvw. The engine runs great, and the truck drives very well for what it is. Someone took care of it. The more I learn about the Perkins 6.354 engine, the more I like it. I plan to add a divorced transfer case and modern 4x4 military axles; it will be easy to control the tire inflation and air lockers with the existing air system. Remove grain / dump bed, and install a twin boom Holmes 600. Be a good truck to install a fifth wheel on and use to pull antique tractors to shows. Unique truck itself; never seen another one. Loadstar's around here all have gas engines... I hope I can find a source for parts like gaskets in the US. Maybe tractor dealerships can help me. If not, maybe Canada, Australia, or Great Britain can be a source for parts. Hope to find a Perkins badge for the grill.
I would leave all the international badging on the front of the truck but add a Perkins badge on each fender, that way it might look more like a factory option
@@K-Effect That's what I was thinking; however it would have been done originally. I noticed that on the bigger trucks in Europe and Australia, where the Perkins is more common, they run one badge on the grill. If it's a car, they put a badge on the boot. I don't know if the front car grill has one to match or not.
@@jhoncho4x4 I never noticed that they did it like that in Australia and Europe, good to know. Either way whatever you do it will look good, you can’t go wrong with that set up
I have 3:73s in my 74 CH5 Jeep with a 4 speed and it was spinning too fast for the Cummins 4BT. I ended up using an older transfer case with the PTO port so I could put a 25% auxiliary overdrive in. Boy did that ever make it so much nicer to drive. The way a diesel runs with 3:73 in direct, it feels like it wants an overdrive to me. Are you thinking of going to a 5 speed at some point in the future? Thanks for sharing your project.
6:20 Just a heads up, it looks like an oil breather or drain back tube has come off of a fitting on your oil pan. Now it’s open to have water, dirt/debris fall into your oil pan without the hose connected to it. Why are you running 2 alternators? At first I thought you might have a giant stereo in the truck. 15:10 I see you have a bunch of warning/dummy lights on the dash/instrument cluster. If you take the dash cluster out “ it’s really easy to do if you lower the tilt steering wheel you can remove the bulbs/circuits that make those lights turn on so you don’t have to look at them all the time.
My uncle bought a four cylinder perkins and six speed transmission from a wrecked wonder bread truck. He put in a mid seventies four door GMC pickup. He was a driller and drove his crew to the rig for years in it. Ran about 60 mph on the highway when you got in high gear with just a little throttle. They called it the green lizard, they had a awful green shade they used back then.
Did he ever try to use it to move trailers or any sort of weight, if so how'd it do
@@oklahomagoochgrabber7500 Sure, He moved farm equipment, and travel trailer with it after retiring from the oilfield. It traveled the road between Guthrie and the Thomas Faye field for several years back in tje sebenties and early eighties.
And you are right about either don’t ever spray a Perkins it will bust pistons but you did a really good job putting it in I’m a believer that what ever it takes to make it work 👍
I got a Perkins 4.236 NT any idea what transmission would bolt up to it?
cool good job..........I did this same swap in a 1985 GMC square body in about 1996.......354 perkins from a 2-105 white tractor( some parts come off a 760 massey combine) had trouble years later w the motor and found a new 6.0l perkins with same mounting( called a Phaser ) still inline 6 but 1998 technology still have it. Let me know if you want more info on it.............Clayton.........Canada
That’s very cool!!!
Question to you if you still recall, was it 4wd? Any issues with the engine wanting to be at to much of an angle?
@@noahrothering3407 Still driving it.......28 years coming up....Yes 4WD light 3/4 ton reg cab ........but got lengthened out and is now a crew cab w 1 ton rear diff Engine is slightly higher in the front......trans shifted back 3 or 4 in 3in cab lift was the easy way to make room........Air bags in 4 corners A must in the front for oil pad clearance..... gear vendor over drive w 3.42 gears I readjusted the dip stick so it reads correct with the slight angle.........Clayton
@@noahrothering3407 Also check out the 2002 Tahoe.......3.9l cummins w turbo ua-cam.com/video/OM6KhNgjk0E/v-deo.html
@@claytona8962hey. Your truck sounds interesting! Please make a video and post it in a reply here please!!
I absolutely love that swap. I really like the idea of an old drivetrain in a newer truck. I want to put a 6.2 or 6.5 diesel in a gmt800. If I was you and wanted to make improvements for your swap, I'd look into some sort of overdrive solution.
Yep sounds like a Massey alright. Cool truck man
That’s rad dude!! I picked up a 73 dodge that someone swapped a Perkins into, now I’m on mission to get it back on the road, got a couple videos up now on it.
What gear reduction starter did you find that worked on it?
@BubbaStew I am curious about the starter, too; or any parts sources.
My Loadstar has the original Delco starter that was specified for those trucks. Will get it rebuilt if I suspect it is wore.
It is a large starter and may already have a reduction unit.
Thanks for the content, good info brother.
Cool, I have a 1964 IH Loadstar 1800 with Perkins 6.354 turbo. 152 hp stock.
Full air brakes, hydraulic power steering, and hydraulic clutch.
IH 5 speed with low first gear and 2 speed EATON axle. 25,500 gvw.
The engine runs great, and the truck drives very well for what it is. Someone took care of it.
The more I learn about the Perkins 6.354 engine, the more I like it.
I plan to add a divorced transfer case and modern 4x4 military axles; it will be easy to control the tire inflation and air lockers with the existing air system.
Remove grain / dump bed, and install a twin boom Holmes 600.
Be a good truck to install a fifth wheel on and use to pull antique tractors to shows. Unique truck itself; never seen another one.
Loadstar's around here all have gas engines...
I hope I can find a source for parts like gaskets in the US. Maybe tractor dealerships can help me.
If not, maybe Canada, Australia, or Great Britain can be a source for parts.
Hope to find a Perkins badge for the grill.
I would leave all the international badging on the front of the truck but add a Perkins badge on each fender, that way it might look more like a factory option
@@K-Effect That's what I was thinking; however it would have been done originally.
I noticed that on the bigger trucks in Europe and Australia, where the Perkins is more common, they run one badge on the grill. If it's a car, they put a badge on the boot.
I don't know if the front car grill has one to match or not.
@@jhoncho4x4 I never noticed that they did it like that in Australia and Europe, good to know. Either way whatever you do it will look good, you can’t go wrong with that set up
How does it do on fuel mileage? Is it strong enough to tow a heavy trailer?
awesome!! i f you rig up a crank position sensor using the GM tone ring you'l have RPM too, if you're piggy backing off the GM ECM...
I have 3:73s in my 74 CH5 Jeep with a 4 speed and it was spinning too fast for the Cummins 4BT. I ended up using an older transfer case with the PTO port so I could put a 25% auxiliary overdrive in. Boy did that ever make it so much nicer to drive. The way a diesel runs with 3:73 in direct, it feels like it wants an overdrive to me. Are you thinking of going to a 5 speed at some point in the future? Thanks for sharing your project.
In case I missed it....what is the mpg?? Excellent project 👏🏼
Looks like the manifolds off of a regular 6354.4.... thus why I think you added the turbo. No melted pistons?
6:20 Just a heads up, it looks like an oil breather or drain back tube has come off of a fitting on your oil pan. Now it’s open to have water, dirt/debris fall into your oil pan without the hose connected to it.
Why are you running 2 alternators? At first I thought you might have a giant stereo in the truck.
15:10 I see you have a bunch of warning/dummy lights on the dash/instrument cluster. If you take the dash cluster out “ it’s really easy to do if you lower the tilt steering wheel you can remove the bulbs/circuits that make those lights turn on so you don’t have to look at them all the time.
I dig it.
You said about the turbo, you added it or it had it? Is it a T6 354.4 or a 6354.4 with an added turbo
Qwantuz HP? ?
put 3.23 ring gears in it. that thing is red lining at 70mph
Change your hydro boost to a vacuum brake booster and then use electric power steering it will give you some power back to the truck