Why were NES games so damn HARD? (Q&A Special Celebrating 30K Subscribers) | Clayton Morris Plays
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- In this special 30K subscribers Q&A, Clayton Morris answers your questions about early childhood gaming memories, Ninja Gaiden's difficulty, the dream game to play, and more. Thanks for 30K subscribers. I can't believe it.
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The Clayton gamer story arc has been a fun thing to discover. Some NES games drove me batty but I'd keep trying.
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So glad to see Rygsr in the thumbnail . One of the first games I played growing up. It was magical and the music was so good.
As an avid 42 year old gamer myself, this video is amazing. One thing i want to say is *in my opinion* the best thing Sony has done this generation is Returnal. What a freaking game. Clayton it's like dark souls meets metroid with unbelievable atmosphere. Give it a shot.
Omg ghost goblins , pitfall,tmnt,Battletoads..🤣🤣🤣 Clay try wreckfest you love it especially online ...lol
Hey Clayton. I am a subscriber to both Redacted and now your channel. Nice to see you do retro gaming. I'll be 50 this year and you are right NES games were hard as hell. However, one of the hardest games is Mike Tyson's PunchOut. When I was younger I probably fought him around 100 times before I finally beat him. Believe it or not I still can beat him. I still know the code by heart to go directly to him as well. I typically beat him once a year. I don't always beat him on the first try but typically after 2 or 3 times I'll beat him. It is my all time favorite NES game. Hard as Hell!
Man I’ve got to finally beat him! Still can’t do it.
I finished almost all hard NES games and the Mike Tyson fight was brutal. Kudos to anyone that can make it!
Zelda was rough for me back then.
The second quest is still challenging, I can recommend the Zelda - Ancient Dungeon hack. It's zelda 1 , but roguelike.@@natel9019
Rygar still holds up today! lol
Great soundtrack 👌
Dude, can't believe it, we are so similar, I remember the hype behind the FF7 game when it came out, because I also worked at EBX in the Nanuet Mall in NY during this time, I was in college, and I pushed Sega Saturn like crazy back then, and no one listened to me, haha. I pushed Saturn so much that my store was ranked #1 in the country for Saturn sales at one point, but then they were all returned for the PS1 haha
Wait what, just when I thought he couldn't be any more of a nerd! I love this!
Thanks Clayton, Streets of Rage 2 way back was a favorite. I loved playing Star Wars battlefront II with my piano student after lesson (split screen). Still love the feeling of couch multiplayer. Enjoy your videos. And hey, I worked for EB too. Keep em coming Clayton.
Not to mention best genesis soundtrack ever
I am a few years older than Clayton, and I also remember my dad getting Pong, and me saving to get an Atari VCS. I always wanted to work at a video game store, the closest I got to that was Blockbuster back in '97.
Back then blockbuster WAS the game store for most people. Think of the millions of families renting the games, the kids asking about them, I still remember the Nintendo 64 kiosk they had at block buster, it was definitely a game store one of the first really that was a chain.
They were so hard because:
1. People at the time were used to coin eaters from the arcades, and
2. That was the only way to put replayability in a 100kb game that would otherwise be very short.
But yea, they were crazy hard! What's even crazier is how far I used to get back in the 80's!
Literally had no idea this existed after watching redacted for over a year. Ps1-ps4 collector with an obsession for news and politics.
I think technical limitations prevented developers from creating long games with padded out content. So they made games hard to extend playtime.
Ys music in the background wearing an official Nintendo Metroid hoodie, Clayton is the real deal. Thanks for your pursuit of truth as well, now I know your a trusted source.
Love your fresh take on gaming so chills
Love that Clayton. Strange how most of my early memories from being a child are just a blur these days but I can remember playing my first games as clear as a bell.
Jumping jack on the spectrum 48k,Jet Set Willy,Manic Minor,Hungry Horace,Horace goes skiing
Amazing times ❤
Knight Lore, Sabrewolf, JetPac, Lunar Jetman, Psytron, Pitfall, Combat Lynx, Harrier Attack, Commando, Spy Hunter… good times.
I remember Horace goes skiing
Looking forward to more content on the gaming channel! 🎮
Also thank you for answering my question! It's amazing that you've been playing games such a young age especially the memories with your father, it's great & excited for your new gaming experiences.
I used to take great pride on being able to complete stuff like Ninja Gaiden 2 or TMNT routinely. Now I can barely go through the first few stages lol. I still enjoy those titles, though. These days I get to scratch that itch from souls titles and certain metroidvanias.
Yup, same here when you are kids you are have all the time in the world lol
Cool to hear you're a Dragon Quest fan! Hope you do a DQ special one of these days.
LOL yeah Rygar, had that game back in 1991 and remember how difficult it was. I only had 4 games for my NES at the time, so yes Rygar got a lot of gameplay but never got that far on it.
My new fav gaming channel❤
👍...thank's clayton
RYGAR is my favorite game ever! It's not an easy game. The music is incredible.
This is awesome, thank you Clayton!!!!
You're very welcome! Thanks for the great question!
great Q&A Clayton. Keep up the great work!
My buddy and I fired up Mike Tyson Punch-out on the nes a few weeks ago and entered the code to go directly to Mike Tyson. We got our asses kicked so bad. Any hit taken and you and you get knocked tf out lol
Poly here poly there, Im playing on
my good old core grafx mini thank you very much🙏
I never beat the final boss of Rygar. Maybe I missed a special weapon or something. Still, I did have a great time with it.
Cherish those moments with your son. With a son in college and the other in high school, those moments when they used to enjoy toys and do kid stuff is long gone. We still make memories together but it’s a different stage in life.
Clayton, you have to try Unicorn Overlord! I just started playing it last week and LOVE it! It’s an SRPG and I think you’ll REALLY enjoy it! It’s a must play game!
16:23 I applaud the way you casually and calmly read that name.
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That's easy because games were shorter and people needed to get their moneys worth given how expensive they were back then. One of the reasons so many NES games have a high score counter.
Games are expensive today $69.99. How much did a new NES game cost?
@@donlalo7079 Games are relatively cheap now. When I was a kid some games cost like £59.99! That was over $100 at the time. Probably equivalent of $200 today
Atari, truck stops arcades, and The NES best days of being a kid.
Yeah! Starting with Adol's Theme in the background :) Ys defibetely leaves its mark. It did also here.
Awesome.
You’d remember if you beat ff7. That 45 minute long Sephiroth fight was brutal!
Dude I love this channel, had no idea about it but glad I found it.
i had to find a magazine usually..... or go to a friends house and try to figure it out. things were so much diff. before the interwebz!
I love your content here I find it very calming and maybe like I'm not so weird for my age anyway keep up the good work I appreciate it
I got the Mini NES and it's AWESOME!
The funniest part was that the nintendo hint line wouldnt come out and tell you how to get past a part you were stuck on....its like bitch, im paying 2.99 a minute.
my all time favorite nes game is the first one i ever got when i was a little kid. Captain Tsubasa Vol. II: Super Striker, it was completly in japanese so i had no idea what the heck i was playing lol but it was still fun nonetheless. The game was a mix of soccer and turned based rpg, truly a unique experience to this day. Highly recommend it.
Dude.. load runner was the sh*t! 🙂👍
I'd forgotten all about it.
Congrats!
Haha so true nes, snes and sega games were pretty damn hard. And dont forget amiga games
NES Battletoads is unbeatable
NES Ghost n Goblins is unbeatable
NES MasterBlaster is unbeatable
First Ninja Gaiden / TMNT on the original NES was just brutal. Mario / MegaMan / Zelda / River City Ransom / TMNT 2 and 3 a small list of my favorite titles on NES
Manye people find this channel from Redacted, and I found Redacted from this channel 😂
And nice to see a ”youtube gamer” that dont talk about politics at all in his video. Much like Happy console gamer. Hope you keep uploading, really like your work. :)
Thanks so much. Although I just spent 6 hours writing a very political video about keeping wokeness and politics out of my games. So that’s about as political as I’ll get. Going to publish that today once I’m done with it. And funny story, John at Happy Console Gamer is a dear friend of mine and he’s the one that told me about the story that I’m working on. Very funny small world.
Looking forward to it. Many will agree with you on the topic that they should keep the wokeness and stuff out of videogames. Thats only one reason I prefer japanese games, often no bs. /Cheers from Sweden!
Hey Clayton! Thank you for answering my question! It's really cool you still have some of your original figures. Seems like we like a lot of the same stuff. Huge Zelda and Metroid fan myself.
You bet! Have you played Dread? Beat that at Christmas 2022 and can't believe how tough some of the boss fights were.
@@ClaytonMorris Yeah, haven't finished it yet. Think I'm running from the 3rd ONI
I still have a NES & SNES with a small collection of games. Still have my original tRS-80 model-I, and my grandfather's original AppleII with a ton of games. I thought it was funny showing a friend like a decade ago the original Doom and Wolf3d on.the PC...
Play these in order: Original FF7, Crisis Core, then remake and rebirth. Apparently there are characters in remake that are from Crisis Core
That’s great to know I didn’t think to play crisis core before remake. Thank you for telling me that.
The first NES game I ever played was Kid Icarus. I think back in 1986-87.
A DQ fan? Cool beans! RIP Koichi Sugiyama😢
Games used to be super-hard. Developers made it like a life-achievement to win. I didn't play much on NES but it was typical of video-games in that era. TBH I think it is better that you can play games as just casual fun these days. Nowadays the challenge is in multiplayer games.
Ridiculously Hard NES games: Ghosts N Goblins; 10 Yard Fight.
Ghost N Goblins-I havn't played that game in over 35 years, but the Red Devils immediately spring to mind, that and 2 hits and your dead throughout. Brutally difficult. It became an obsession until I beat it, how I did to this day I have absolutely no idea (it was like the Film Edge Of Tommorrow, only without Emily Blunt to soften the repetitive attrition/mental trauma). And all only to find out on completeion that it just starts all over agian ... only HARDER! Never. Ever. Again. I'm steressed out even just recalling it! As an adult I now totally get that it was because it was desinged orginally as an arcade machine to keep taking your coins, but still, I wonder if the difficulty of that NES game actually took years of my life through childhood trauma?
10 Yard Fight-maybe I was just rubbish at it, but I swear it cheated big time, with the NES being able to do stuff that was just simply impossible as the player. So even when you thought you could win, it could, and did, turn the tables on you at wil as it knew your button inputs. I know, that's every bad loser's excuse and I was full of them at a young age ("but I've got the unofficial controller!"), but I've never had game rage like playing that cheating NES *@~! on 10 Yard Fight! I never had Ninja stars, but I actually ripped that cartridge out and flung it across the bedroom one time in blind rage when that cheating NES pulled the rug from under me, right when I was SURE I was finally going to win this time! It was emotinal bait n' switch on another level. I feel somewhat better about this behaviour as an adult after reading that even Roger Federer had tantrums and tears when he lost as a kid, but only slightly. Today, I embrace losing when I've tried my hardest and someone beats me, and have nothing left but admiration and respect for the victor after a great performance. What's real in the momment is that you give it your all, and in the aftermath, that you're either respectful in victory or that you seek to learn from your losses as they are the clearest indicators of where you need to improve in order to remain competitive. With that mindset, rage losing just doesn't exist. It's all good. But if they've cheated on the other hand, like that NES on 10 Yard Fight ... 🤬
I beat Rygar back in the day, tried it recently, couldn't get past the first two screens.
I enjoy quite a few hard games. Easy games can be boring as finishing one leaves me with an empty feeling. Like I didn't have to put in the work to earn it.
I treat real life like video games, an hero's journey...but I find it hard when the general population refuses to see that there are bad guys to begin with ^_^
Ninja Gaiden & Rygar was hard I loved Rygar .. Metroid I finished ..I loved gold cartridge Zelda ..
I'll give more developer perspective nes games being hard. The developers that worked on nes games were the same devs who worked on arcade cabinets. They used their arcade experience to develop nes games which by accident became hard because arcade cabinets by design had to be hard in order to get as many quarters it can. Nes game accidents were designed the same way even though they weren't getting extra revenue from it.
I miss those mid tier games from the PS2 era. Games are technically more impressive nowadays but lack the soul of the games from that era.
Here’s a tip if you ever get Battletoads, one of THE most difficult NES games. I beat it using the dogbone controller that came with the top loading NES.
Clayton you should give No Man's Sky a shot. Space exploration game with multiplayer and it has only gotten better over the last 8 years.
TMNT and Top Gun ruined my temper.
I didn't finish it,those screens you showed i remember well..chuckaboo racing?
Come on Clayton Tekken 8 and Final fantasy Rebirth are pretty good reasons to get a PS5.
Thanks for the follow up on my question Clayton. Yeah I definitely recommend playing OG FF7 before playing remake then rebirth. I’m playing rebirth right now myself. I started becoming a FF fan in 2021 when I needed games for my new PS5 at the time. So I played remake first and had no context of the original game at the time. But without giving anything away for remake if you think that it’s gonna be the same story with better graphics. That won’t be the case here I can tell you that.
Nice shoutout to Star Control 2-we played pvp a ton in that one!
Excellent production qualities-what camera do you use? We could use some beefing up in that department!
Star Control 2 is my favorite PC game of all time!
Thanks so much. We use a Sony A7 with a sigma lens. But we’re building a new studio this year and I think we’re upgrading to some newer Sony cameras. We use 4 of them in our main studio here: https:\\youtube.com
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@@ClaytonMorris Very impressive. My co-host recognized you from your main channel! 👍
Mixing your gaming hobby + redacted work I wait for a topic on the digitalisation of videogames (that I think as something OK as long as it doesn't replace physical games because we saw it with Sony and Microsoft after they can decide to delete your game when they want)
There is a big French UA-camr who fights against this digitalisation. His name is Conkerax, why not interviewing him someday? (I think he can speak English)
Yes I’m a big physical media believer.
I was able to finish Rygar and I agree that it is a hard game. As for Kid Icarus, it was not difficult. What scared me to death was getting turned into an eggplant by those Eggplant Wizards. Drove me up the wall!
this literally popped up on my feed. never knew you did this. this is awesome!
You mentioned in the tour vid you didnt have a snes. So idk if you played Super Metroid, but no doubt it would have been one of your favs. Best in the series.
Ghosts n goblins
We would only buy a game or two a year and it was all about couch co-op for sure, one friend would get game A and the other would get game B and we would share the experience and play together in person. Nintendo knew after the crash in the 80's that to keep the system relevant the games had to be challenging and have great replay value. Today these companies know that for kids to play together it's all online and they will each need to buy a copy and if the game is good they wont need to buy another one.
Haha i was just playing a few of my nes games just a while ago! Speaking of ninja gaiden, i snagged a poster on ebay and framed it. The games i played today were the first two ninja turtles games, ( I am still working on getting the third one) some dr. Mario, some Ivan Stewart's super off road, and finally some old school Contra! I just picked up contra from a new local game shop that's just down the road.. NES games were hard, and I am super glad I grew up in the bit wars era to experience the difficulty as if it were normal, so i always play on the harder difficulty settings in games. Indeed that is applicable to life. Let me suggest an old obscure game you may not have herd of, but check out a game called Silver. It was released for DC and PC from what I remember. Great story.
Whoa a Ninja 🥷 Gaiden poster? That’s awesome.
@@ClaytonMorris It's just the front cover of the cartridge blown up onto a 24x36 inch poster, so not technically an original, but it looks badass!
Hey Clayton you should it takes two I play with my wife it’s fun
Common occurrence not getting all the way through final fantasy when your still young. I didn't beat ff8 until I was 19, got it when I was 12.
Metroid, my "favorite"
Meaning you love it, but it's so damn hard it makes you hate it at the same time?
@ClaytonMorris brother you KNOW IT. never cussed so much on my life 😃
Its playable on android too, ff7
yo this is awesome hahaha
So how many of you had the pleasure of beating any one of those games with distorted graphics? Lol I know I did
My favorite single-player story is still Deus Ex, because it's really a story that Alex Jones could've been written. But I wouldn't play it today for obvious reasons and there are other great single-player stories with better graphics. My favorite games from the past years have been Days Gone, Cyberpunk 2077 and Metro Exodus, so I seem to prefer games about an evil dark future and playing stealth. Atomic Heard is also a must-play. Otherwise I like Sim-Racing in my 20k 6DOF-rig and VR-sport. This week I got my Meta Quest 3 and now playing Asgarth's Wrath 2, both parts are included if buying one (but part 1 needs a PC), and Assassin's Creed Nexus. Once you are really swinging the sword (or rather the controller) and getting a workout while playing instead of mashing bottons, flat-games really need to be tailored to my taste to get my attention.
You know what the hardest game of all time was? Donkey kong. games used to be about competition not inclusion but after wallstreet figured out that games were more profitable then movies they started making games for the lowest common denominators rather then catering to the skilled gamers anymore and the rest was history. Money ruins everything.
I wish to god Dino Crisis 1 & 2 would get a remake..... one of my fav PS titles
Have you ever seen the movie brainscan? Its a cheesy 90s horror movie starring Edward furlong.. i can see gaming going that direction lol
You gota beat all the god bosses and unlock everyones limit breaks speacial summons
Nintendo and Super Nintendo are the best so fun!
Love redacted, this is way less depressing
Have you completed some missions in Starfield? And did you enjoy them?
I ask the same . I cannot defeat Megaman X final boss Sigma and that game is from snes
Ninja Gaiden 1-2 are my Favorite NES games. I got so good at them, its hard for me relate when people say they're hard. Though they sure were. Cobra Triangle to me was Impossible, only beat that with an emulator and save states.
my first videogame was TETRIS, then I played SOKOBAN and what really got me into gaming was DOOM and Starcraft.
The original DEUS EX was a PC game, and I believe the first one that differenciated head torso legs and arms....that's probably why it got praised. I only played like 2 hours at the time and didn't like it that much
Always loved this channel, but the gaming side is so amazing, not to mention very important as gaming is extremely important culturally, and it is sad some still do not realize this. Definitely the old school games were harder, I find lol. When my brother and I encounter a boss in a modern game, that actually is more difficult, we call it "NES hard" 😂
Couldn't agree more!
@claytonmorris You should have a crack some emulation. Playing retro games on PC is way much fun than having multiple physical consoles.
What's your favorite SNES game? Mine is Super Ghouls n Ghosts
Batman series is my top 3
If you try Deus Ex, make sure you play the 2000's original. Would not to waste time on Deus Ex: Invisible War from 2004, as it is pretty weak compared to the rest of the series. PS: Can absolutely recommend the Reboot of the Series, a.k.a. Deus Ex: Human Revolution from 2011 and Deus Ex: Mankind Divided from 2016. Really good stuff. My personal favorite is still the 2000's original.
Once they started giving out participation trophies the video games started getting alot easier
The game ghouls and ghosts or goblins or something is hard as hell, super Nintendo game
Ola! 😛💣💚
PostNutClarity 🤣🤣🤣
I was hoping to find a comment on that I giggled like shit.....
It’s a great name.
You damn right.
Great to find out you love retro games considering I found you through redacted. Well played sir!@@ClaytonMorris
these games are sooooo damn hard
Nuance and leeway, leeway from sports games could improve adventure models… randomness as well, like hunting or simulator games, and timing like with Rangar. Not
Too much of one flashy thing, no gimmicks for the sake of branding. .. as with crossover’s.
No static movement as with shooting games, melee and guns dawn positions should reflect attire and environment… wear and tear and other realities must integrate for interaction to exist… otherwise we are left to bargain against a machine that just excuses itself whenever it just creates more of the same under-real reality without being in most ways fair to the context.
It’s time for American markets to accept foreign influences in the market. If we don’t make small business moves for apps and games… those same people become successful w/o us!
What doesn't Clayton do
Gymnastics, I’m not a fan of gymnastics.
Here is my question, do any of you two accidentally float in air biscuit while on the air?