PLEASE READ > ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxapGexe4ChB71Ez_aYst5cNo96KlDEaJj everyone, the reason why an Unranked tier exists is because I don't play every single warframe and have deep knowledge about them, I don't think its fair to assume a frame is good bad etc when I haven't played them much, Unranked frames will have their own video and ranks in the future, this doesn't mean the unranked frames are bad, it just means I have no / little experience with them for now. Also guys.. this is my OPINION this isn't an objective tier list, i clearly stated this in the beginning that a lot of frames in A tier are interchangeable and what not, I've made this video for FUN, if you disagree with what I said with each frame that's fine, but stop skipping to the frames and commenting as soon as you see a grade. Also the A grade is kinda the same to me, just ignore the + - it doesn't mean much in this case. Also final Edit: Cold Damage multiplier is for reflected shots. Support me on Patreon! www.patreon.com/NovaUmbral And Join The Discord Here! discord.gg/RUKf8PVn2r
I mean it's also another thing that this should have just been delayed to next month so yuu get to experience the new warframe and the rework to hydroid
Finally an actual tier list and not a helminth tier list lol. Almost all of the other people that made a tier list videos just talk about how good helminth is on other frames and give the original frame a crappy rank instead of ranking them on there own abilities. You explain everything really good and not just based on helminth or lvl cap content.
Yea I get that but my point is. Don't put a frame in low tier just because there ability is better or good on another frame and don't put a frame in high tier just because another frames ability makes them good. Judge them based on there own ability and how good they do in missions, that's a tier list
Some frames are going to get uberbuffed by subsumes, most notably rhino. But it is true that subsumes make some frame playable to some extent like revenant/inaros due to no dmg buff, but if your frame is already top tier in base kit, like gauss or someone who is perfect in kit, but can use subsumes, in 99.9% of the cases, will push you even further.
Both Mag and Revenant are 100% S tier frames. Mag has decent crowd control, very good grouping with her 1 and 2, perfect shield gate and a large AOE full armor strip. Revenant has very good crowd control, straight up immortality, 100% damage on life with infinite scaling and a free helminth slot.
A free helminth slot isn’t a good thing. Warframes should not have an intentionally bad ability just so you can use the helminth system to make them S tier. Helminth abilities should be useful for making unique builds with certain combos, they’ll obv be better than base abilities that warframe has but they should never be intentionally bad
This is such a good showcase of how many ways Warframe can be played. So good I almost feel like continuing the grind. I am so bad at games like Warframe, but despite the difficulty I have with the style of gameplay I don't give up on it entirely after nearly 8 years. I love it, I guess.
As a Nidus/Volt main I completely agree with your Nidus rating. I love my infested boy to death but I'd much rather use other frames if I'm not doing endless because Nidus' kit in my opinion is 100% made for endless. Why would I play Nidus for capture or rescue? I still do sometimes but I'd much rather use Volt to rush those or some frame I'm having fun with that week (currently Xaku and Kullervo lol).
im a nidus/volt main too and i agree with everything you just said. nidus is my fav frame but volt is just plain fun ...he doesnt do damage like nidus but the speed definitely makes up for it. I find myself not being able to fully utilize nidus without an abundance of enemies and its the only reason i play any other frame, cuz that gets annoying sometimes
I used to play Nidus, returned, made a prime Nidus... and now I HATE him. The game moved away from any meta where his kit is even mediocre, it's outright bad.
@@NovaUmbral I think the augment is okay, you cover lots of ground with armor stripping that basically never goes away as long as you keep recasting (also helps to have high duration). But it's kind of weird and slow to set up. Also I don't think her 4th ability is very good. 😢
@@NovaUmbralit’s really quite good in my opinion, it allows her base kit to shine really well, letting her turrets do major damage without a tight grouping helminth
She's quite nuts, with the infamous thermal sunder garuda, and the help of rhino, (roar has insane scaling with thermal) you will see garuda absolutely wiping everyone out in clap clap clap shenanigans, even in steel path...
I always loved garuda but I had issues hating the blood effect from her passive covering her entire body and ruining my fashion. Lucky for me, if you equip bloodshed sigil, lowering alpha and giving it a white color it covers the blood essentially making it invisible.
You should really give grendel a chance, bro can fully shield gate with his 1, has 2 total armor stripping abilities at 200% strength, and one of those armor stripping abilities only costs around 5 energy. He can also health tank relatively well with the help of umbral vitality and arcane blessing putting him at 3500-4000 health range, when his stomach is full of enemies he has upwards of 2000 armor, and his abilities do not care what level enemies are. He scales to level cap without an issue and his augment for his 3 makes him so fun to play
@@YR-jg1gk Depends how much you want to invest. If you’re willing to invest a ton, you can use 1 umbra forma, the umbral trio of mods, arcane molt augmented to get you above 200% strength, pulverize augment in exilus, sprint boost aura (since grendel has full armor strip with 2 of his abilities at 200% strength it’s a waste to put corrosive projection) and then aim for max duration mods after that
To be honest he needs a rework over 2nd and 3rd ability, those are really useless. The 1st and the 4th are useful, but only to make him even tankier, in a age where he's arguably the only Warframe that's "useful" in only one thing instead of at least two/three things
I'm getting to the point where I want to play around with new frames, so seeing a tier list that's not the same as everyone else's (and not predictable) is great to see. Great insight. I would have agreed Wisp is A+ just before Wisp Prime, now after a new build with more play time I would just almost put Wisp at S, not S+ just because she doesn't offer anything new for spy, her 4 is honestly just a Helminth slot, and her abilities aren't great for DPS (you NEED a good weapon). Right now being able to CC Eximus, the only thing that poses an actual threat, is huge. Yeah she is a good support, but I see it more like- her abilities (excluding sol gate) are great and they just happen to buff allies too. I'm quickly learning that Breach Surge is one of the best abilities in the game, pair it with Pillage and all enemies turn into gun powder ready to ignite with the smallest "spark".
I sincerely enjoy this style of tier list. Subjective and not acting like it's 100% accurate. Def appreciated this list. Also, shocked you haven't tried (or returned to?) Grendel yet. He's such fun after his changes.
I have been playing Rhino since about 2015 and I have never felt like he was a weak frame for how easily I got him. I still play him to this day, but using the prime form the most to clear missions most
I break it down like this for people that ask about getting into WF. They ask what starter frame they should get I ask how they wanna play. If they choose excalibur I tell them to pick Volt or mag because we can pick up excal and they're probably gonna use Rhino over all of them. Told my buddy if he stuck with the game I'd help him get Rhino Prime cause when I said Mag is a wizard Volts a Warlock and Excal is a fighter he asked who the Barbarian was.
Nova indeed! Whenever there's an SP challenge with the word "survive" in it, my go to is Nova. Also great choice for mobile defense. Extremely tanky with null star + adaptation. Keep range low and duration high. Cheese SP with these missions with Loki: spy, exterminate, rescue (just infuse banish), assassinate. Those 2 are main I guess.
If you want tankiness just use Gara. Splinter storm is just a better null star and you could easily subsume tharros strike for life steal and armor AND shield strip. Also, mass vitrification is probably the best defense ability in the game (it's snow globe but you can pick the size AND shoot through it)
The only thing Rhino needs, is a good passive that plays along with his kit (and maybe not having Recasting iron skin and roar tied behind an augment).
Surprisingly, you don't want recast. Is like you never see a revenant recast his Mesmer skin just for support, unless you really wanna do the dmg absorb shenanigans with a high dmg target like blitz, plus now with the new 0.5s gate, recasting puts you in risk more now. Roar in the other hand has the cc intact and can do some wacky things with his 4 and it's a free 25% addictive cc, and why you want to recast roar for if not for that? Giving your zooming teammates a buff? Nah. It's a 75 energy ability, imagine recasting this a few times to have your teammate getting the buff, it ruins your energy economy more than recasting nourish (plus nourish recast is just reset the timer, the strength of nourish will not change after the timer runs out, making recast quite pointless.)
I think it's a reasonable QoL to give players the option. It's not like the recastability isn't already there. It's just tied to an augment that grants them puncture proc affects. Sure, Rhino works perfectly fine without recastability, I don't disagree with you there. But I don't see how players having the option the augments already give you is a bad thing. The augments already have their own puncture proc buffs, I think its just odd that the QoL they give you isn't already inherit to the ability. You don't need recastable iron skin to get it high in numbers. But it would give players the option to retry if they see a bigger group of enemies. And you're not that vulnerable when you recast. You still have shield gate, and you don't have to dispel iron skin in the middle of a group of enemies. You can be smart with where to use it. Just like you would if you have the augment in your kit. And energy crisis isn't an issue for veteran players. If I had the option to recast roar to buff someone that was out of range, I could do it. Or I don't have to if I don't want to. But I would have the choice. That's the point.@@amolistic_
@@shadedraxe1430 It is reasonable, but not required as it does not affect his gameplay like night and day, good to have but not like without it is the end of the world. That is my point too thus I can agree this to an extent. roar recast part: if yes, the nourish issue. yes you can recast,but you only reset the duration, which means if the dur isnt up, your buff strength wont be refreshed. Considering roar is 30s, if you build some form of dur, it aint going down soon. For current recast roar, you and teammates completely lost the buff first, then the buffs will be applied to the allies around you, its like you rebuff your teammates, this kind of thing is as same as you cast roar when dur is up. without massive range investment, your teammates aint going to get the buff anyway, recast or not, as you cant expect all of them to stay tgt, trying to buff your teammates every time is not a good choice, you might as well mod range, like i previously mentioned, because you can go as extreme as casting roar 3-4 times, which is now at base 225 energy, max 300 on a frame who only has 425 energy max available...
Man, I hope you try out Kullervo soon. He's such a good frame. Wrathful Advance gives you free red crits. Recompense is a lifesaver and thanks to the Overguard changes, makes you a tank. Collective Curse can be very useful in large crouds, and with enough power strength, damage redirection is 100%! Storm of Ukko is nice CC, but I subsumed it out for my own build. But yeah, Kullervo is really fun to play, and is probably the best melee frame in the entire game, so if you like melee, you'll love Kullervo.
I am so happy for this video! I love that Garuda got S from you, plus finally someone said that Khora is totally boring. Couldn’t agree more. Strong, love her on my team, bored while playing her.
I hate to have her on my team in certain conditions. If i play with aoe things it's ok, but if not the enemies become like untargetable when under the influence of her ultimate
All frames that only spam ability without thinking are super boring. The most SUPER DUPER strong Octavia. When you can macro or sit in a camp. It really kills the fun of the game entirely.
@@wanglee21 For that and for the fact that hearing that melody of hers in loop for too much time drives you crazy, Octavia is still less played compared by a lot of Frames that are not strong like her
Loki master race always, but in the wake of the ever-shifting meta over the past 10 years, it warms my heart to see Rhino still not gaf about anything. The original frames will always be my favorites.
I've been playing a lot of Ash recently. His 3 and 4 aren't too useful, but having invisibility, and -- with his 1 augment -- an armor strip that works on anything in the same kit makes for a really good endurance frame. Slapping Xata's Whisper over his 4 and going to level cap in Steel Path Disruption using Felarx is a breeze. His passive (+25% damage and +50% duration to slash procs) also pairs real nicely with Glaive Prime.
As a yareli main with the right investment via airborne mods, and merugaurdian, yareli becomes very tank if not the tankest, not counting mesmer skin. Few days of play, her k-drive isn't hard to use, and not having a primary isn't much of an issue, do to how strong 90% of the secondary weapons are on her. The spore lacer kitgun being the best thing.
Yareli build- umbra set- or intensify, boreal anguish, coaction drift or p flow. Continuity p, adaptation, blind rage, boreal hatred and merulena gaurdian. Arcane gaurdian and pistoleer, melee weapons- furax or pole arm for amalgam mod or boreal contempt. Main weapon is personal preference but I suggest any of the kitguns or new imcarnons. Build you can remove alot of the defensive mods for more str or range, do to diminishing returns from DR stacking. As for helmith remove the 3 or 4, and gloom, pillage, nourish are great picks, since you don't have to hop off all that often to cast and gain the benefits from them. Pillage is my go to for Cascadia overcharge.
@tylregor5481 something I should test, did find out that the primary kit gun arcane pax seeker, for what ever reason procs on all secondaries while on meru.
I do give Protea S- It got great shield regeneration It got big cc slash area It got torrets which do alot of damage It got infinty energy abillty 4th is synegy but i would put roar there I enjoy it in mid to base steel path and maybe even more
inaros can also technically scale his tornado into steel path but you need alot of strength and even though the kpm is normal its just really unsatifying because the damage is spread out over a much longer time than normal nukes and it doesnt scale with enemy density and you move really slowly and it doesnt even involve armor strip or priming, and then when you run out of roar theres a good chance you'll just get killed during the roar cast animation because you spent all your mods on forcing the build to scale and you wont shieldgate. you cant get panzer quills on your own because you want the marked for death set which needs a kubrow
I love all the incidenta love frost has been getting over these past few months. He is still my most played frame and one of my favorites, and he is just so good now. His ult is now a long range, 360° nuke, armor strip, CC, Crit damage increase, that gives stacking rhino skin. It's amazing. Slap nourish on him and his ult applies viral too and you can spam it. While still slow(parkour and casting speed shards fix), frost went from C tier to A tier to me in the past few months, happy to be playing him again , especially in steel path and dominating. Good video tho.
great video. Nova is also one of my favorite frames. Her grind when she release was ridiculous... with the frame parts always falling outside of the map. She was worth the grind is to this day my favorite. I just got wisp, and she I am liking her very much as well.
I’m new with warframe and played saryn and wukong a lot. This introduce me to baruuk. That guy fits my playstyle so much, it feels satisfying. Baruuk is my first prime wf btw and still hyped rn 👍🏾
@@hollowcookie9648use the Bond mod that makes your companion give you combo + naramon so that it decays slowly. I used to hate trying to keep combo with baruuk but now I do it like that and it's a breeze, was getting red crits for like 99% of the mission
Aye, Oberon is fun but requires some thought for a build. I have a non-umbra and 3 umbra Oberons. He's a squishy frames best friend and a fun active support frame to play even without using the helminth system. Eclipse on short missions replacing his 4 and running Smite Infuison is a blast and replacing his 1 for SP endless for something like elemental ward has worked for me.
I have a hate for limbo ever since I was trying to do an interception archon hunt and he kept bannishing and rift surging the enemies and they were invincible while also taking the points and refusing to move. My whole squad was cursing that limbo out lol.
Sadly it Is outdted, though I also find mentioning Cold/Corrosive to be... an interesting combination on chromatic blade. I'll have to keep it in mind. My friends had thrown me down the path of Electric/Blast, at least partially because electric was what I happened to already have on him, and Blast getting reworked with its secondary property. Though I'm suddenly very tempted to try to get some more mods to work into that build as well for other options.
As I recently made a return to warframe, not having played in a decade. This was really interesting, as i could see the abilities of frames i have been thinking of trying. Happy to see Garuda is good, since its a frame im working towards. Saryn used to be my main, but my favourite is Sevagoth, he is so fun.
21:34 'Turning the enemy off-' I find amusement in the mental imagery of Octavia flipping a lightswitch down, and suddenly every Grineer in the are just stops working.
It was very unexpected for that Limbo has two tier rankings which, although it makes sense because of his unique rift mechanic and how players use him. I used to main (also a fan) Limbo during my early warframe days until I switched to Mesa, but now, seeing new ways on how to use Limbo makes me want to go back to play him again.
Part of me would be tempted to be a snarky bitch that if a frame is somehow both A+ and C- that would just put them into B by default, with the caveat that they're capable of incredible things, but what they do can be done by other frames for much less work.
I'm always happy to hear praise for Wukong lol I'm not a meta guy but don't fight it either, I just use what I find fun (if that makes sense). I've gotten some hate though for maining Wukong because he is or was the most used frame in the game but I simply enjoyed him the most while leveling random frames and stuck with him. As a musou games fan I like hacking and slashing myself so nuke frames aren't any fun to me and simply not dying is a huge plus.
You really should try Lavos. He has insane tanking capabilities. He has a lot of HP and armor, and his 1st can fully heal you. He also has Great fps, he is a must try
@@respectableindividual4593 i ment base star chart and base steel path under 1 hour.He would have an amazing shield gating capability if no ability cooldowns.I am talking from non-casual perspective.
8:00 frost has become my top main, and despite me not liking him not being S tier, I gotta agree with your placement, to make him S tier you gotta put a good amount of work into him
i really loved this tier list . its extremely good and calling great frames boring while also exolaining how good they are was the best. no overestimation or underestimation perfectly explaing all frames this was just perfect. also seeing ppl realise gauss isnt A but and absolute S is great to c as he is my main and im literally death that runs at the speed of sound
Baruuk is S tier when you are solo in a enemy dense mission, he gets more anoying when that is not the case, i regret sometimes putting 2 umbra forma in him, building combo, losing that combo because of random nullis, he sometimes feels like walking through mud, but when he can lull lots of stuff and build combo jump smashing or sliding he is a powerhouse, but those limitations put him in a- tier for me, lots of frames that are batshit crazy right out of the gate without doing a dance.
The craziest thing to me, is how much better DE's overall approach to designing new Warframes has been changed in the past 5yrs. For an OG returning player coming back to the game after a 5yr hiatus, it is blatantly obvious that they have vastly improved upon where they used to be. It's nice to see. I remember the very early days of the game. It was pretty awkward in a lot of ways. Nothing compared to what it is now.
Nyx is underrated by the community. She has aoe crowd control that goes through Overguard, armor AND shield strip that's easy to reach 100% with, damage that auto-scales with enemy level (with her 1), and on top of that she can just become fully invulnerable at the press of a button, grey life bar and all. You can Helminth off parts you don't need for specific builds (probably her 1 most of the time). She's basically a better, but more awkward, Revenant in a lot of game modes. The big problem is she's more difficult to mod and slow when her invulnerability is actually active. Loki is also quite good for one reason: Safeguard Switch can get 10+ seconds of grey health invulnerability, or twice that if you give it to allies. His 1 and 4 are really flawed in the modern game, though.
I don’t care if you put Rhino in S tier, because best cc, best damage buffer, 2nd best tank skill in the game, and a helmith replaceable skill.The Roar + Nourish combo is phenomenal, I frequently stomped enemies on steel path solo interception missions, those missions are hard to do on solo, but not with stomp. Iron skin is very strong. Overall an amazing frame. People don’t give him a chance, cause they think he’s the noobframe of the game
"I have a personal vendetta against Revenant because he's really boring" Yet you said you liked Inaros for his tanking despite being objectively more boring than Rev
I've clearly stated that Inaros is not a bad frame because he can TANK at the very least, its a useful property to have. And nowhere did I say I liked Inaros more then Revenant, they are both boring warframes, but I gave Revenant an A+ because his utility and tank is 100000% stronger and better then Inaros.
@@NovaUmbral "A lot of people give Inaros flack for being trash, but ultimately that's not true. (Proceeds to say how good he is for new players, he has tones of HP, he can build for stealth arcanes, & great CC) "Revenant, **sigh,** Revenant's whatever"
Maybe its my fault that I didn't clarify more and the title might be a bit misleading but this list is SUBJECTIVE, I don't like Revenant because I find him VERY boring to play. But I'm not going to dismiss him, he is VERY good, I literally stated that Revenant is immortal with Mesmer skin, one shot combo with Reave and great radius damage with 4. I also gave him an A+ because of that.
I was hoping wisp would be in S tier but lowkey I think A+ is the most realistic tier for her all round good frame, can’t die as well as healing the whole team, sharing an insane amount of speed. Has insane damage with her 3rd 2nd makes her immortal and her 4 is kinda trash but that makes it perfect for any helmth ability.
This is the video that sold me on Warframe because of how you ranked them. Showing that every character is good in this game, and really none were lower than a B- is insane to me coming from a lot of games like Siege, Apex, Valorant, Genshin, where there are a lot of bad characters or major balance issues, to this where all of them are extremely viable is so cool. Been playing for a week now and I love this game.
I just rediscovered Zephyr recently. I didn't know about her augments, in particular Turbulence, and I thought she was very slow. She's still kind of slow and floaty but I guess I'm less impatient now. I can chill and use her normally now. Just with tail wind was a lot harder to break, it's far too finnicky to me.
Personally I’d say Grendel is a B+ in personal experience he can die out of nowhere to toxic in steal path, but he has a full armor strip and built in nourish he can easily throw on a subsume my personal choice is gloom but he can use other options the ability to have nourish and a full strip while having another subsume and solid stats to just face tank steel path. he’s a easy frame with some great utility for a player that likes him but he’s not great for sp endurance runs being a health tank and he doesn’t offer as much as many other frames. he’s just a easy option for a casual player to grind through just about anything but he’s not for everyone.
Glad to see my boi Excalibur in A tier! For whatever reason i suddenly recall how i once came across a Bug that let me DUAL WIELD Exalted Blades, i only ever managed to recreate it a few times, with one time i even got 3 blades stacked. Rejoining Warframe after 2 years of silence tomorrow with Cross Save being released, cya soon lads!
Opinion about unranked frame in the video that I have play recently. Ash: Blade Storm + Savage Silent + specially modded Innodem is very good to cheese exterminate of steel path and archon hunt. A- for personal rank Lavos: My only railjack pilot. Very easy for modding that I don't have to concern about the energy economy. Ultimate has Condition Overload build in making he is able to fart nuke the the map. I give him a B+ to A- Protea: A+ frame definitely. Ver good synergy between Blaze Artillery and Archon Vitality. Sheild grenade and keep refresh the shield gating for good survivability. Temporal Erosion makes her turrets and grenades punch even harder in high level content. Only downside of her is her kit is like trap setting for enemies come to her. Titania: My Waifu A+ for fissue and B for others. She is fast so fast that make me fear about Volt in fissure. Having Razorwing makes her speed queen for starchart stage. Subsuming Thermal Sunder can makes her a bomber but frequent cast with Razorwing will make her very difficult to control so I don't recommend Razorwing for Thermal Sunder or Null star nuke build. It 's quite dumb for augment occupying mod slots.
Out of the warframes i have used over my 400 hours of play so far grendel is my favorite. I have come to learn i like frames that have tanking abilities and/or support abilites. Because of my taste i used rhino for the longest of times, i liked his kit, his one i never used, his iron skin gave me immense survivability, his roar gave me an excellent damage buff for him and teammates, and his stomp was good cloud control. But when i got grendel, bought him not even close to being able to do steel path, i fkund dverything i love about rhino there and more. My problem with rhino was when iron skin died he became as squishy as other frames, but with grendel he gets big armor when he has people in his belly and it lets me heal him when low that it surpasse iron skin. Grendel had good damage reduction because of his high armor, good self heal thats also a big damamge buff to himself and allies, a movement ability i rarely use, and a good armor strip ability. With the build i have for grendel now i have a base 1,000+ armor and when i use his first ablilty with the augment i can get around 5 thousand armor, have a heal when in danger, a big damage buff, and armor strip. I also use the vazarin school, which gives me a mini shield that works like a budget iron skin but only where you cameras looking, a crowd control ability, a good heal after crouching as operater for a short time, and five seconds of invincibility with a massive heal after i dash through my own frame, and the ability isnt even full upgraded. Sorry for my long post just thought id say my thoughts on my main and new favorite frame grendel. Tldr: grendel good
Indeed. I like to go savage silence + rising storm to boost my melee combo alongside silence(his blade storm scales with combo multiplayer if I'm not mistaken)
Mirage makes my brain whirr with happiness. But seriously, mirage is a great frame and i just use nourish over her two. I get at least one of the two bonuses so really good and fun damage with multishot/AOE weapons.
What would be halpful, especially for new players is a tier list for frames based on their role/utility for a specific content. Nothing more annoying than someone joining a public mission with Wukong for a Defense mission :/
Nice vid. I think the ratings look pretty fair. For my two cents though, I would recommend spending more time with Atlas. Not because I think his rating is wrong, but simply because he is essentially the same as Baruuk. Atlas does exactly what Baruuk does, but with no prep work. Atlas has a higher damage ceiling though, because he can cheat with Rivens. Instant Cone CC vs non-instant full AoE cc, etc. Baruuk gets DR and damage avoidance, Atlas gets rediculous armor levels and invulnerability frames. Might make for an interesting vid actually deep dive comparing the two of them.
yoo give lavos a try, he's goated with the sauce of elements, you can tank and cook all sorts of funky combinations for all your dear enemies, really fun to slide around with his 2 and can provide some support with his 3 (universal health/energy and ammo) also small detail, baruuk's timestamp is on chroma
99% of my playtime is on Nova. She was the first frame I made. My only wish is for an augment that'll scale the M Prime explosions (maybe by combining with AMD) so we can have a true chain reaction build for her.
I really think Styanax is an S. Infinite energy, guaranteed slash procs, shield and health regen, full armor strip, the longest range pull in the game and overguard with his augment.
Styanax is good and arguably the strongest Warframe but his gameplay consists of pressing 4 to win and that's pretty much it, you can armor strip and group a little but if you're good with just pressing one button that's him
@@Metarortiztrue but the rest of his kit is still effective at what they do. It’s not like other frames that can only use one ability but because the rest just suck if you even try to press more than one button.
@@Metarortiz while I def see what you’re saying, you pretty much just described every frame though. Every frame has a pattern you use to spam abilities. Generally speaking, it’s usually just a couple abilities you use across the board for each. Styanax is S-tier because of how effective he is, and not necessarily how much you enjoy it. Tbf, I use his 3 quite a bit too and his 1-2 combo is actually really good as well
yareli kit revolves around her magic flying carpet , if she could use helmith abilites while on merulina she be the best transforming tank frame in the game. but she has to quickly get off merulina to reset her helmith abilites. keeping merulina alive isnt that hard with her augments. merulina allows you to ignore blast statues effect.without your more then likely getting ragdolled . controlling K drive inside a tight space mission is easy, just dont press the go fast button hover around. merulina can ignore the keys effects and that includes farming for the new warframe dagath, just pick the keys while on merulina. with few arcanes and specific seconardy weapons she steal path worthy . get rid 4th ability when using the helmith , it dosent do best damage and its mostly for CC. with nourish she a beast, with horrow's chains she can surivive lot more
I just started this game 9 days ago I hope this gives me an idea who to farm for in the future, currently waiting for Gara and Rhino to finish just 2 more days until they are done being cooked 😂
switch teleport gives you 12 seconds of s with the augment PLEASE WHY DOES NO ONE KNOW ABOUT THIS i know its anti synergy because decoy and invisibility can already take care of reliable aggro for headshots or support or whatever and invisibility to not die but like... it is quite literally one of the strongest tanking abilities in the game
I actually think this might be one of the first tier list that i legit agree with. You look at the game from a very similar lens as myself because i'm not pushing to level 9999 enemies and i never care too. I don't need a tier list for that stuff because their is literally zero reason to do that and as far as different builds i'm not looking for ways of making missions as easy as possible i'm looking to make the game as fun as possible. So as long as whatever i'm using clears the hardest content even if in a niche i'm cool with it. The game doesn't need to be min/max into oblivion and by doing so in my opinion you make the game boring just because instead of clearing content in 5mins its 5min and 30secs.
The best part about this list is the opinion of bad warframes. Yeah, frames like Nyx get outclassed in everything by other frames and Hydroid is pretty bad compared to everyone in general. However, the Warframe is only one part of a whole arsenal. A bad Melee or Primary can affect ones gameplay way more than the Warframe. If a Warframe was truly bad, people wouldn't be able to last 5 minutes in SP Survival with them and both frames mentioned above can last way longer than 5 minutes. Also, wise decision to have the Unranked section. Most people would sooner talk out their ass than have a real opinion.
I was waiting with bated breath during the "E frames" section of the video, worried about what one of my favorite warframe yters would say about my favorite warframe. Glad to hear you think Equinox (day) is an A-, can't wait to see the Equinox video later this month!
Without watching this, we all know who is the worst... *cough*squidward*cough* Just wait for him to be the best warframe in the entire game post rework.
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everyone, the reason why an Unranked tier exists is because I don't play every single warframe and have deep knowledge about them, I don't think its fair to assume a frame is good bad etc when I haven't played them much, Unranked frames will have their own video and ranks in the future, this doesn't mean the unranked frames are bad, it just means I have no / little experience with them for now. Also guys.. this is my OPINION this isn't an objective tier list, i clearly stated this in the beginning that a lot of frames in A tier are interchangeable and what not, I've made this video for FUN, if you disagree with what I said with each frame that's fine, but stop skipping to the frames and commenting as soon as you see a grade.
Also the A grade is kinda the same to me, just ignore the + - it doesn't mean much in this case.
Also final Edit: Cold Damage multiplier is for reflected shots.
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I mean it's also another thing that this should have just been delayed to next month so yuu get to experience the new warframe and the rework to hydroid
@NovalUmbral have you seen the new warframe 1999 trailer?
Can we get a valkyr video umbral
Timestamp lacks Baruuk
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Is there any reason why Yareli was the only Frame left out of the tier list? She's not even unranked.
Finally an actual tier list and not a helminth tier list lol. Almost all of the other people that made a tier list videos just talk about how good helminth is on other frames and give the original frame a crappy rank instead of ranking them on there own abilities. You explain everything really good and not just based on helminth or lvl cap content.
It’s so annoying ranking frames based on helminth. It’s good to mention helminth synergies but the rank should be for the frame as is I think 💪
Yea that's how it should be
with helminth being such a large part of the game and genuinely a massive buff for a lot of frames, ex: Mesa
I think both approaches are warranted
Yea I get that but my point is. Don't put a frame in low tier just because there ability is better or good on another frame and don't put a frame in high tier just because another frames ability makes them good. Judge them based on there own ability and how good they do in missions, that's a tier list
Some frames are going to get uberbuffed by subsumes, most notably rhino.
But it is true that subsumes make some frame playable to some extent like revenant/inaros due to no dmg buff, but if your frame is already top tier in base kit, like gauss or someone who is perfect in kit, but can use subsumes, in 99.9% of the cases, will push you even further.
Being a fairly newer player- what i got from this is that every warframe is good if you just enjoy the game for what it offers. Thank you!👍
As a Limbo Main, seeing my boi in A+ gives me inner peace.
*tips hat*
Same
The video he did on Limbo, I think helped a lot of people understand different ways to play him. 🎩
You are rare I salute you friend
Fellow hat enjoyer
Both Mag and Revenant are 100% S tier frames.
Mag has decent crowd control, very good grouping with her 1 and 2, perfect shield gate and a large AOE full armor strip.
Revenant has very good crowd control, straight up immortality, 100% damage on life with infinite scaling and a free helminth slot.
Mag is a powerhouse (when it works)
Rev is totally boring tho
@@riftsxpA personal tier list on a public platform. Anyone can give their opinion on his list.
Sorry, but using just "decent" or "very good" isn't S tier lol
Rev is best level cap frame too, especially for disruption
A free helminth slot isn’t a good thing. Warframes should not have an intentionally bad ability just so you can use the helminth system to make them S tier. Helminth abilities should be useful for making unique builds with certain combos, they’ll obv be better than base abilities that warframe has but they should never be intentionally bad
This is such a good showcase of how many ways Warframe can be played. So good I almost feel like continuing the grind.
I am so bad at games like Warframe, but despite the difficulty I have with the style of gameplay I don't give up on it entirely after nearly 8 years. I love it, I guess.
If you're struggling, then someone in recruitment chat will help you. WF has plenty of people willing to help.
As a Nidus/Volt main I completely agree with your Nidus rating. I love my infested boy to death but I'd much rather use other frames if I'm not doing endless because Nidus' kit in my opinion is 100% made for endless. Why would I play Nidus for capture or rescue? I still do sometimes but I'd much rather use Volt to rush those or some frame I'm having fun with that week (currently Xaku and Kullervo lol).
im a nidus/volt main too and i agree with everything you just said. nidus is my fav frame but volt is just plain fun ...he doesnt do damage like nidus but the speed definitely makes up for it. I find myself not being able to fully utilize nidus without an abundance of enemies and its the only reason i play any other frame, cuz that gets annoying sometimes
I used to play Nidus, returned, made a prime Nidus... and now I HATE him. The game moved away from any meta where his kit is even mediocre, it's outright bad.
*TL;DW:*
*Ash:* Unranked
*Atlas:* A-
*Banshee:* B+
*Baruuk:* S
*Chroma:* A-
*Caliban:* Unranked
*Citrine:* Unranked
*Ember:* A+
*Equinox:* A- (Day), B+ (Night)
*Excalibur:* A
*Frost:* B+
*Gara:* A
*Garuda:* S
*Gauss:* S
*Grendel:* Unranked
*Gyre:* Unranked
*Harrow:* B+
*Hildryn:* A/A+
*Hydroid:* Unranked
*Inaros:* B-
*Ivara:* A-
*Khora:* A+
*Kullervo:* Unranked
*Lavos:* Unranked
*Limbo:* A+
*Loki:* B+
*Mag:* A
*Mesa:* A+
*Mirage:* A
*Nekros:* A+
*Nezha:* A
*Nidus:* A+ (Endless), B (Regular)
*Nova:* S+?
*Nyx:* Unranked
*Oberon:* B
*Octavia:* A+
*Protea:* Unranked
*Revenant:* A+/S-
*Rhino:* A+
*Saryn:* A
*Sevagoth:* A-
*Styanax:* A
*Titania:* Unranked
*Trinity:* B+
*Valkyr:* Unranked
*Vauban:* B+
*Volt:* A-
*Voruna:* Unranked
*Wisp:* A+
*Wukong:* S-
*Xaku:* A+
*Yareli:* Unranked
*Zephyr:* A+
How come some frames are unranked?
@@chad9408 Either Nova hasn't played them enough or simply doesn't have them yet.
@@risel56 wow, thanks for the quick reply dood, I just assume most commenters are dead
nice list, I see Nova with a question mark, but I don't think he was ranked in the video
can always appreciate a tierlist by you, havent watched it yet but we all know its gonna be a banger
I wish more people appreciated protea. there are dozens of us
The only reason I didn't rank her is because of the new augment and builds she got post duviri and I haven't messed with it yet.
@@NovaUmbralunderstandable
It’s okay, brother. They can appreciate us from afar while we have our extra dope dodge-roll.
@@NovaUmbral I think the augment is okay, you cover lots of ground with armor stripping that basically never goes away as long as you keep recasting (also helps to have high duration). But it's kind of weird and slow to set up. Also I don't think her 4th ability is very good. 😢
@@NovaUmbralit’s really quite good in my opinion, it allows her base kit to shine really well, letting her turrets do major damage without a tight grouping helminth
i love how he didn't even actually rank Nova, just fanboyed over her.
Ah, good old Rhino. Nothing beats that. Glad to see the old boy (who I still have 50+% play time as) ranking well.
It makes me super happy to see my favorite frame Garuda in S tier. People are finally starting to see how powerful she is
She's quite nuts, with the infamous thermal sunder garuda, and the help of rhino, (roar has insane scaling with thermal) you will see garuda absolutely wiping everyone out in clap clap clap shenanigans, even in steel path...
well,everybody using garuda with gauss 3 now
I always loved garuda but I had issues hating the blood effect from her passive covering her entire body and ruining my fashion.
Lucky for me, if you equip bloodshed sigil, lowering alpha and giving it a white color it covers the blood essentially making it invisible.
Nobody sees how powerful she is
They see how powerful thermal sunder is😂
@@god4943 even without thermal sunder shes A/A+ on every warframe tier list
You should really give grendel a chance, bro can fully shield gate with his 1, has 2 total armor stripping abilities at 200% strength, and one of those armor stripping abilities only costs around 5 energy. He can also health tank relatively well with the help of umbral vitality and arcane blessing putting him at 3500-4000 health range, when his stomach is full of enemies he has upwards of 2000 armor, and his abilities do not care what level enemies are. He scales to level cap without an issue and his augment for his 3 makes him so fun to play
Let's not forget that in addition to Shieldgating Grendel can heal himself to full pretty easily.
Honestly if i were to put Grendel in a subjective tier list, id put him around A to A+, I honestly love what Pablo did to him, wonderful rework again.
I just love goofing around with him. Fun factor is a plus for him
What’s a build for Grendel
@@YR-jg1gk Depends how much you want to invest. If you’re willing to invest a ton, you can use 1 umbra forma, the umbral trio of mods, arcane molt augmented to get you above 200% strength, pulverize augment in exilus, sprint boost aura (since grendel has full armor strip with 2 of his abilities at 200% strength it’s a waste to put corrosive projection) and then aim for max duration mods after that
i feel like a decent change to Inaros would be to give him some way of gaining overguard
He still needs usable abilities
The health is fine, everything else in his kit is not so fine.
To be honest he needs a rework over 2nd and 3rd ability, those are really useless.
The 1st and the 4th are useful, but only to make him even tankier, in a age where he's arguably the only Warframe that's "useful" in only one thing instead of at least two/three things
Inaros should have a curse ability - mummies curse people, that's what they do
Overguard removes the rage energy gain from health damage
I'm getting to the point where I want to play around with new frames, so seeing a tier list that's not the same as everyone else's (and not predictable) is great to see. Great insight.
I would have agreed Wisp is A+ just before Wisp Prime, now after a new build with more play time I would just almost put Wisp at S, not S+ just because she doesn't offer anything new for spy, her 4 is honestly just a Helminth slot, and her abilities aren't great for DPS (you NEED a good weapon). Right now being able to CC Eximus, the only thing that poses an actual threat, is huge. Yeah she is a good support, but I see it more like- her abilities (excluding sol gate) are great and they just happen to buff allies too. I'm quickly learning that Breach Surge is one of the best abilities in the game, pair it with Pillage and all enemies turn into gun powder ready to ignite with the smallest "spark".
YEEES!!!
I live and breathe for these tier-lists.
I honestly wanted to see one from you, as you went into in-depth videos of a lot of the Warframes.
I sincerely enjoy this style of tier list. Subjective and not acting like it's 100% accurate.
Def appreciated this list. Also, shocked you haven't tried (or returned to?) Grendel yet. He's such fun after his changes.
I have been playing Rhino since about 2015 and I have never felt like he was a weak frame for how easily I got him. I still play him to this day, but using the prime form the most to clear missions most
I break it down like this for people that ask about getting into WF. They ask what starter frame they should get I ask how they wanna play. If they choose excalibur I tell them to pick Volt or mag because we can pick up excal and they're probably gonna use Rhino over all of them. Told my buddy if he stuck with the game I'd help him get Rhino Prime cause when I said Mag is a wizard Volts a Warlock and Excal is a fighter he asked who the Barbarian was.
Nova indeed!
Whenever there's an SP challenge with the word "survive" in it, my go to is Nova.
Also great choice for mobile defense.
Extremely tanky with null star + adaptation. Keep range low and duration high.
Cheese SP with these missions with Loki: spy, exterminate, rescue (just infuse banish), assassinate.
Those 2 are main I guess.
If you want tankiness just use Gara.
Splinter storm is just a better null star and you could easily subsume tharros strike for life steal and armor AND shield strip. Also, mass vitrification is probably the best defense ability in the game (it's snow globe but you can pick the size AND shoot through it)
16:18 Loki's switch tp is very useful for a lot of spy vaults, I use it in combination with his decoy to bypass lasers and magnetic screens
ivara can just go through laser tho.. also its not like lasers are really problem xD
@@cebulak6695 Wukong doesn't need an augment to bypass lasers or screens.
@@yofolkdem1256 and? He is the best. All I'm saying that loki is bad lol xD
The only thing Rhino needs, is a good passive that plays along with his kit (and maybe not having Recasting iron skin and roar tied behind an augment).
Surprisingly, you don't want recast. Is like you never see a revenant recast his Mesmer skin just for support, unless you really wanna do the dmg absorb shenanigans with a high dmg target like blitz, plus now with the new 0.5s gate, recasting puts you in risk more now.
Roar in the other hand has the cc intact and can do some wacky things with his 4 and it's a free 25% addictive cc, and why you want to recast roar for if not for that? Giving your zooming teammates a buff? Nah. It's a 75 energy ability, imagine recasting this a few times to have your teammate getting the buff, it ruins your energy economy more than recasting nourish (plus nourish recast is just reset the timer, the strength of nourish will not change after the timer runs out, making recast quite pointless.)
@@amolistic_i am that reverent who purposely cast 2 when im near the squad for the augment lol
I think it's a reasonable QoL to give players the option. It's not like the recastability isn't already there. It's just tied to an augment that grants them puncture proc affects.
Sure, Rhino works perfectly fine without recastability, I don't disagree with you there. But I don't see how players having the option the augments already give you is a bad thing.
The augments already have their own puncture proc buffs, I think its just odd that the QoL they give you isn't already inherit to the ability.
You don't need recastable iron skin to get it high in numbers. But it would give players the option to retry if they see a bigger group of enemies. And you're not that vulnerable when you recast. You still have shield gate, and you don't have to dispel iron skin in the middle of a group of enemies. You can be smart with where to use it. Just like you would if you have the augment in your kit.
And energy crisis isn't an issue for veteran players. If I had the option to recast roar to buff someone that was out of range, I could do it. Or I don't have to if I don't want to. But I would have the choice. That's the point.@@amolistic_
@@shadedraxe1430 It is reasonable, but not required as it does not affect his gameplay like night and day, good to have but not like without it is the end of the world. That is my point too thus I can agree this to an extent.
roar recast part: if yes, the nourish issue. yes you can recast,but you only reset the duration, which means if the dur isnt up, your buff strength wont be refreshed. Considering roar is 30s, if you build some form of dur, it aint going down soon. For current recast roar, you and teammates completely lost the buff first, then the buffs will be applied to the allies around you, its like you rebuff your teammates, this kind of thing is as same as you cast roar when dur is up.
without massive range investment, your teammates aint going to get the buff anyway, recast or not, as you cant expect all of them to stay tgt, trying to buff your teammates every time is not a good choice, you might as well mod range, like i previously mentioned, because you can go as extreme as casting roar 3-4 times, which is now at base 225 energy, max 300 on a frame who only has 425 energy max available...
True, Rhino's passive is literally just a mod with a useless effect.
Hydroid : Arrrr me have no rank matey
NovaUmbral : Patience captain, your ship still ashore and the wind of change still not here. Not yet.
Man, I hope you try out Kullervo soon. He's such a good frame. Wrathful Advance gives you free red crits. Recompense is a lifesaver and thanks to the Overguard changes, makes you a tank. Collective Curse can be very useful in large crouds, and with enough power strength, damage redirection is 100%! Storm of Ukko is nice CC, but I subsumed it out for my own build.
But yeah, Kullervo is really fun to play, and is probably the best melee frame in the entire game, so if you like melee, you'll love Kullervo.
I am so happy for this video! I love that Garuda got S from you, plus finally someone said that Khora is totally boring. Couldn’t agree more. Strong, love her on my team, bored while playing her.
I hate to have her on my team in certain conditions.
If i play with aoe things it's ok, but if not the enemies become like untargetable when under the influence of her ultimate
All frames that only spam ability without thinking are super boring. The most SUPER DUPER strong Octavia. When you can macro or sit in a camp. It really kills the fun of the game entirely.
@@wanglee21 For that and for the fact that hearing that melody of hers in loop for too much time drives you crazy, Octavia is still less played compared by a lot of Frames that are not strong like her
khora dome is useless unless you need star chart type resources
who needs extra rubedo
Loki master race always, but in the wake of the ever-shifting meta over the past 10 years, it warms my heart to see Rhino still not gaf about anything. The original frames will always be my favorites.
I've been playing a lot of Ash recently. His 3 and 4 aren't too useful, but having invisibility, and -- with his 1 augment -- an armor strip that works on anything in the same kit makes for a really good endurance frame. Slapping Xata's Whisper over his 4 and going to level cap in Steel Path Disruption using Felarx is a breeze. His passive (+25% damage and +50% duration to slash procs) also pairs real nicely with Glaive Prime.
I always use him for rescue missions with invis augment, makes it a breeze 💪
Ash is really Fun, i like his 3 with The agument and finisher rakta dagger build. Blade storm is slow but so cool.
if you want a fun/silly build put mark for death ability on and use his teleport augment an easy room clear if you build it right
His 4 combined with Banshees silence can do astronomical amounts of damage
Savage Blade storm is his most powerful build. U def just started playing him. Lmao.
As a yareli main with the right investment via airborne mods, and merugaurdian, yareli becomes very tank if not the tankest, not counting mesmer skin. Few days of play, her k-drive isn't hard to use, and not having a primary isn't much of an issue, do to how strong 90% of the secondary weapons are on her. The spore lacer kitgun being the best thing.
Yareli build- umbra set- or intensify, boreal anguish, coaction drift or p flow. Continuity p, adaptation, blind rage, boreal hatred and merulena gaurdian. Arcane gaurdian and pistoleer, melee weapons- furax or pole arm for amalgam mod or boreal contempt. Main weapon is personal preference but I suggest any of the kitguns or new imcarnons. Build you can remove alot of the defensive mods for more str or range, do to diminishing returns from DR stacking. As for helmith remove the 3 or 4, and gloom, pillage, nourish are great picks, since you don't have to hop off all that often to cast and gain the benefits from them. Pillage is my go to for Cascadia overcharge.
For those unaware and are confused why airborne mods, yareil while on meru is considered airborne.
@@basoriks9445 Wait...
If i'm not wrong there's a mod that makes the enemies sleep of you shoot at them airborne.
Does it work?
@tylregor5481 something I should test, did find out that the primary kit gun arcane pax seeker, for what ever reason procs on all secondaries while on meru.
great tips! its nice to see another yareli player
This might be my favorite tier list video ive seen. You just list all the fun stuff you can do with each of the warframes.
Anyone else loves repeating their warframes getting some love lol.
about time, Been waiting for a video like this, Keep it up bro (its me Karismo
I do give Protea S-
It got great shield regeneration
It got big cc slash area
It got torrets which do alot of damage
It got infinty energy abillty
4th is synegy but i would put roar there
I enjoy it in mid to base steel path and maybe even more
It also has the ability to remove the temper from enemies, such as increasing the four
inaros can also technically scale his tornado into steel path but you need alot of strength and even though the kpm is normal its just really unsatifying because the damage is spread out over a much longer time than normal nukes and it doesnt scale with enemy density and you move really slowly and it doesnt even involve armor strip or priming, and then when you run out of roar theres a good chance you'll just get killed during the roar cast animation because you spent all your mods on forcing the build to scale and you wont shieldgate. you cant get panzer quills on your own because you want the marked for death set which needs a kubrow
I love all the incidenta love frost has been getting over these past few months. He is still my most played frame and one of my favorites, and he is just so good now.
His ult is now a long range, 360° nuke, armor strip, CC, Crit damage increase, that gives stacking rhino skin. It's amazing. Slap nourish on him and his ult applies viral too and you can spam it.
While still slow(parkour and casting speed shards fix), frost went from C tier to A tier to me in the past few months, happy to be playing him again , especially in steel path and dominating. Good video tho.
great video. Nova is also one of my favorite frames. Her grind when she release was ridiculous... with the frame parts always falling outside of the map. She was worth the grind is to this day my favorite. I just got wisp, and she I am liking her very much as well.
I’m new with warframe and played saryn and wukong a lot. This introduce me to baruuk. That guy fits my playstyle so much, it feels satisfying. Baruuk is my first prime wf btw and still hyped rn 👍🏾
I just don't like how hard it is to keep up combo w him
@@hollowcookie9648use the Bond mod that makes your companion give you combo + naramon so that it decays slowly. I used to hate trying to keep combo with baruuk but now I do it like that and it's a breeze, was getting red crits for like 99% of the mission
Aye, Oberon is fun but requires some thought for a build. I have a non-umbra and 3 umbra Oberons. He's a squishy frames best friend and a fun active support frame to play even without using the helminth system. Eclipse on short missions replacing his 4 and running Smite Infuison is a blast and replacing his 1 for SP endless for something like elemental ward has worked for me.
Love all your videos, super informative and entertaining.
I have a hate for limbo ever since I was trying to do an interception archon hunt and he kept bannishing and rift surging the enemies and they were invincible while also taking the points and refusing to move. My whole squad was cursing that limbo out lol.
What is that energy flowing in Equinox's gameplay? It is just so beautiful
Sadly it Is outdted, though I also find mentioning Cold/Corrosive to be... an interesting combination on chromatic blade. I'll have to keep it in mind.
My friends had thrown me down the path of Electric/Blast, at least partially because electric was what I happened to already have on him, and Blast getting reworked with its secondary property. Though I'm suddenly very tempted to try to get some more mods to work into that build as well for other options.
As I recently made a return to warframe, not having played in a decade. This was really interesting, as i could see the abilities of frames i have been thinking of trying. Happy to see Garuda is good, since its a frame im working towards. Saryn used to be my main, but my favourite is Sevagoth, he is so fun.
21:34
'Turning the enemy off-'
I find amusement in the mental imagery of Octavia flipping a lightswitch down, and suddenly every Grineer in the are just stops working.
It was very unexpected for that Limbo has two tier rankings which, although it makes sense because of his unique rift mechanic and how players use him. I used to main (also a fan) Limbo during my early warframe days until I switched to Mesa, but now, seeing new ways on how to use Limbo makes me want to go back to play him again.
As Inaros enjoyer, i'm actually surprised to not see my Pharon at well, F-, i supposed. My respecte dude. Cool video.
Part of me would be tempted to be a snarky bitch that if a frame is somehow both A+ and C- that would just put them into B by default, with the caveat that they're capable of incredible things, but what they do can be done by other frames for much less work.
I'm always happy to hear praise for Wukong lol
I'm not a meta guy but don't fight it either, I just use what I find fun (if that makes sense). I've gotten some hate though for maining Wukong because he is or was the most used frame in the game but I simply enjoyed him the most while leveling random frames and stuck with him. As a musou games fan I like hacking and slashing myself so nuke frames aren't any fun to me and simply not dying is a huge plus.
As a proud Rhino main, before the rework, I'm so glad that Rhino got the love he deserved.
You really should try Lavos. He has insane tanking capabilities. He has a lot of HP and armor, and his 1st can fully heal you. He also has Great fps, he is a must try
he is just good for regular content and base steel path, if you want to do level cap runs, i do not recommend him at all
@@Calaman228so he's only good for 99.9% of content? Oh no
@@respectableindividual4593 i ment base star chart and base steel path under 1 hour.He would have an amazing shield gating capability if no ability cooldowns.I am talking from non-casual perspective.
@@Calaman228Well, playing 9999 lvl is only useful as a flex anyway
@@Calaman228 nuh uh
8:00 frost has become my top main, and despite me not liking him not being S tier, I gotta agree with your placement, to make him S tier you gotta put a good amount of work into him
Great another tier list (I'm actually glad!!)
i really loved this tier list . its extremely good and calling great frames boring while also exolaining how good they are was the best. no overestimation or underestimation perfectly explaing all frames this was just perfect. also seeing ppl realise gauss isnt A but and absolute S is great to c as he is my main and im literally death that runs at the speed of sound
Baruuk is S tier when you are solo in a enemy dense mission, he gets more anoying when that is not the case, i regret sometimes putting 2 umbra forma in him, building combo, losing that combo because of random nullis, he sometimes feels like walking through mud, but when he can lull lots of stuff and build combo jump smashing or sliding he is a powerhouse, but those limitations put him in a- tier for me, lots of frames that are batshit crazy right out of the gate without doing a dance.
I think citrine should be somewhere around A and S, as she is so good at support for her team that it’s insane
The craziest thing to me, is how much better DE's overall approach to designing new Warframes has been changed in the past 5yrs.
For an OG returning player coming back to the game after a 5yr hiatus, it is blatantly obvious that they have vastly improved upon where they used to be. It's nice to see.
I remember the very early days of the game. It was pretty awkward in a lot of ways. Nothing compared to what it is now.
Nyx is underrated by the community. She has aoe crowd control that goes through Overguard, armor AND shield strip that's easy to reach 100% with, damage that auto-scales with enemy level (with her 1), and on top of that she can just become fully invulnerable at the press of a button, grey life bar and all. You can Helminth off parts you don't need for specific builds (probably her 1 most of the time).
She's basically a better, but more awkward, Revenant in a lot of game modes. The big problem is she's more difficult to mod and slow when her invulnerability is actually active.
Loki is also quite good for one reason: Safeguard Switch can get 10+ seconds of grey health invulnerability, or twice that if you give it to allies. His 1 and 4 are really flawed in the modern game, though.
Better but mor akward sounds like much worse to me lol
@@botao4456 It depends on the mission.
Yeah she's great. My go to boss killer and overall confort pick.
I don’t care if you put Rhino in S tier, because best cc, best damage buffer, 2nd best tank skill in the game, and a helmith replaceable skill.The Roar + Nourish combo is phenomenal, I frequently stomped enemies on steel path solo interception missions, those missions are hard to do on solo, but not with stomp. Iron skin is very strong. Overall an amazing frame. People don’t give him a chance, cause they think he’s the noobframe of the game
"I have a personal vendetta against Revenant because he's really boring"
Yet you said you liked Inaros for his tanking despite being objectively more boring than Rev
I've clearly stated that Inaros is not a bad frame because he can TANK at the very least, its a useful property to have. And nowhere did I say I liked Inaros more then Revenant, they are both boring warframes, but I gave Revenant an A+ because his utility and tank is 100000% stronger and better then Inaros.
@@NovaUmbral
"A lot of people give Inaros flack for being trash, but ultimately that's not true.
(Proceeds to say how good he is for new players, he has tones of HP, he can build for stealth arcanes, & great CC)
"Revenant, **sigh,** Revenant's whatever"
@@Cut_Contentbro he literally gave revenant a higher rating than inaros, what are you even complaining about
Maybe its my fault that I didn't clarify more and the title might be a bit misleading
but this list is SUBJECTIVE, I don't like Revenant because I find him VERY boring to play. But I'm not going to dismiss him, he is VERY good, I literally stated that Revenant is immortal with Mesmer skin, one shot combo with Reave and great radius damage with 4. I also gave him an A+ because of that.
@@Cut_Contentwhy so uptight about it? It's a damn subjective tierlist. It can't hurt you in real life.
This tierlist can be trusted, and should be the only tierlist anyone should watch. Source: I watched the first 55 seconds of the video.
Kullervo's unranked!?
*I am 100 meters from your location, and approaching fast.*
This mad man really plays with his character on the right side.
Saryn is BY FAR the highest SSS+ Warframe by a trillion miles. And nothing can change my mind.
I’m glad you didn’t go below C tier. I agree that there is no “bad” warframes and that most of them can do pretty much all content
I was hoping wisp would be in S tier but lowkey I think A+ is the most realistic tier for her all round good frame, can’t die as well as healing the whole team, sharing an insane amount of speed. Has insane damage with her 3rd 2nd makes her immortal and her 4 is kinda trash but that makes it perfect for any helmth ability.
It's rare to me to see Nezha in a squad and it's so comforting to see my boy in A tier.
This is the video that sold me on Warframe because of how you ranked them. Showing that every character is good in this game, and really none were lower than a B- is insane to me coming from a lot of games like Siege, Apex, Valorant, Genshin, where there are a lot of bad characters or major balance issues, to this where all of them are extremely viable is so cool. Been playing for a week now and I love this game.
I just rediscovered Zephyr recently. I didn't know about her augments, in particular Turbulence, and I thought she was very slow. She's still kind of slow and floaty but I guess I'm less impatient now. I can chill and use her normally now. Just with tail wind was a lot harder to break, it's far too finnicky to me.
Interesting tier list. I'd still put Mesa and Saryn in S but to each his own.
When the updated tier list comes out Kullervo def getting atleast A tier with the overguard of his 2 and the Crits of his 4
Bro you gotta try ash with his new blade storm tech. If you haven’t seen what I’m talking about, aznvasions has a video on it.
Personally I’d say Grendel is a B+ in personal experience he can die out of nowhere to toxic in steal path, but he has a full armor strip and built in nourish he can easily throw on a subsume my personal choice is gloom but he can use other options the ability to have nourish and a full strip while having another subsume and solid stats to just face tank steel path. he’s a easy frame with some great utility for a player that likes him but he’s not great for sp endurance runs being a health tank and he doesn’t offer as much as many other frames. he’s just a easy option for a casual player to grind through just about anything but he’s not for everyone.
Glad to see my boi Excalibur in A tier!
For whatever reason i suddenly recall how i once came across a Bug that let me DUAL WIELD Exalted Blades, i only ever managed to recreate it a few times, with one time i even got 3 blades stacked.
Rejoining Warframe after 2 years of silence tomorrow with Cross Save being released, cya soon lads!
Opinion about unranked frame in the video that I have play recently.
Ash: Blade Storm + Savage Silent + specially modded Innodem is very good to cheese exterminate of steel path and archon hunt. A- for personal rank
Lavos: My only railjack pilot. Very easy for modding that I don't have to concern about the energy economy. Ultimate has Condition Overload build in making he is able to fart nuke the the map. I give him a B+ to A-
Protea: A+ frame definitely. Ver good synergy between Blaze Artillery and Archon Vitality. Sheild grenade and keep refresh the shield gating for good survivability. Temporal Erosion makes her turrets and grenades punch even harder in high level content. Only downside of her is her kit is like trap setting for enemies come to her.
Titania: My Waifu A+ for fissue and B for others. She is fast so fast that make me fear about Volt in fissure. Having Razorwing makes her speed queen for starchart stage. Subsuming Thermal Sunder can makes her a bomber but frequent cast with Razorwing will make her very difficult to control so I don't recommend Razorwing for Thermal Sunder or Null star nuke build.
It 's quite dumb for augment occupying mod slots.
Out of the warframes i have used over my 400 hours of play so far grendel is my favorite. I have come to learn i like frames that have tanking abilities and/or support abilites. Because of my taste i used rhino for the longest of times, i liked his kit, his one i never used, his iron skin gave me immense survivability, his roar gave me an excellent damage buff for him and teammates, and his stomp was good cloud control. But when i got grendel, bought him not even close to being able to do steel path, i fkund dverything i love about rhino there and more. My problem with rhino was when iron skin died he became as squishy as other frames, but with grendel he gets big armor when he has people in his belly and it lets me heal him when low that it surpasse iron skin. Grendel had good damage reduction because of his high armor, good self heal thats also a big damamge buff to himself and allies, a movement ability i rarely use, and a good armor strip ability. With the build i have for grendel now i have a base 1,000+ armor and when i use his first ablilty with the augment i can get around 5 thousand armor, have a heal when in danger, a big damage buff, and armor strip. I also use the vazarin school, which gives me a mini shield that works like a budget iron skin but only where you cameras looking, a crowd control ability, a good heal after crouching as operater for a short time, and five seconds of invincibility with a massive heal after i dash through my own frame, and the ability isnt even full upgraded.
Sorry for my long post just thought id say my thoughts on my main and new favorite frame grendel. Tldr: grendel good
grendel good.
rhino good.
🤝
Think he'd be good for a beginner who likes his Rhino a lot?
POG another tierlist... grabs popcorn
Ash + savage silence = sensational
Also, Citrine is defs s tier
Indeed. I like to go savage silence + rising storm to boost my melee combo alongside silence(his blade storm scales with combo multiplayer if I'm not mistaken)
I would like to try kullervo's helminth on ash, might not be better than savage silence but could be fun
Mirage makes my brain whirr with happiness. But seriously, mirage is a great frame and i just use nourish over her two. I get at least one of the two bonuses so really good and fun damage with multishot/AOE weapons.
What would be halpful, especially for new players is a tier list for frames based on their role/utility for a specific content. Nothing more annoying than someone joining a public mission with Wukong for a Defense mission :/
Nice vid. I think the ratings look pretty fair.
For my two cents though, I would recommend spending more time with Atlas.
Not because I think his rating is wrong, but simply because he is essentially the same as Baruuk.
Atlas does exactly what Baruuk does, but with no prep work.
Atlas has a higher damage ceiling though, because he can cheat with Rivens.
Instant Cone CC vs non-instant full AoE cc, etc.
Baruuk gets DR and damage avoidance, Atlas gets rediculous armor levels and invulnerability frames.
Might make for an interesting vid actually deep dive comparing the two of them.
yoo give lavos a try, he's goated with the sauce of elements, you can tank and cook all sorts of funky combinations for all your dear enemies, really fun to slide around with his 2 and can provide some support with his 3 (universal health/energy and ammo)
also small detail, baruuk's timestamp is on chroma
99% of my playtime is on Nova. She was the first frame I made. My only wish is for an augment that'll scale the M Prime explosions (maybe by combining with AMD) so we can have a true chain reaction build for her.
Playing one frame is pathetic
@@respectableindividual4593having a favorite and sticking with it because it’s fun is called
having fun in a videogame
I really think Styanax is an S. Infinite energy, guaranteed slash procs, shield and health regen, full armor strip, the longest range pull in the game and overguard with his augment.
Styanax is good and arguably the strongest Warframe but his gameplay consists of pressing 4 to win and that's pretty much it, you can armor strip and group a little but if you're good with just pressing one button that's him
@@Metarortiztrue but the rest of his kit is still effective at what they do. It’s not like other frames that can only use one ability but because the rest just suck if you even try to press more than one button.
@@Metarortiz while I def see what you’re saying, you pretty much just described every frame though. Every frame has a pattern you use to spam abilities. Generally speaking, it’s usually just a couple abilities you use across the board for each. Styanax is S-tier because of how effective he is, and not necessarily how much you enjoy it. Tbf, I use his 3 quite a bit too and his 1-2 combo is actually really good as well
yareli kit revolves around her magic flying carpet , if she could use helmith abilites while on merulina she be the best transforming tank frame in the game. but she has to quickly get off merulina to reset her helmith abilites.
keeping merulina alive isnt that hard with her augments. merulina allows you to ignore blast statues effect.without your more then likely getting ragdolled .
controlling K drive inside a tight space mission is easy, just dont press the go fast button hover around.
merulina can ignore the keys effects and that includes farming for the new warframe dagath, just pick the keys while on merulina.
with few arcanes and specific seconardy weapons she steal path worthy .
get rid 4th ability when using the helmith , it dosent do best damage and its mostly for CC.
with nourish she a beast, with horrow's chains she can surivive lot more
yeah execpt 1 problem
wf players like speed
I just started this game 9 days ago I hope this gives me an idea who to farm for in the future, currently waiting for Gara and Rhino to finish just 2 more days until they are done being cooked 😂
Nova so perfect placing her in S+ wouldnt be good enough?
Understandable 😌
As an inaros main I agree a lot he definitely needs a rework but isn't bad just build intensive
Glad someone agrees with how good Nekros actually is. He has become pretty underrated this point
This is some quality content yo!
switch teleport gives you 12 seconds of s with the augment PLEASE WHY DOES NO ONE KNOW ABOUT THIS i know its anti synergy because decoy and invisibility can already take care of reliable aggro for headshots or support or whatever and invisibility to not die but like... it is quite literally one of the strongest tanking abilities in the game
On a frame with an aggressively weak kit. Compare to revenant or styanax who have the same survivability but with exceptional kits to pair with it.
I actually think this might be one of the first tier list that i legit agree with. You look at the game from a very similar lens as myself because i'm not pushing to level 9999 enemies and i never care too. I don't need a tier list for that stuff because their is literally zero reason to do that and as far as different builds i'm not looking for ways of making missions as easy as possible i'm looking to make the game as fun as possible. So as long as whatever i'm using clears the hardest content even if in a niche i'm cool with it. The game doesn't need to be min/max into oblivion and by doing so in my opinion you make the game boring just because instead of clearing content in 5mins its 5min and 30secs.
playing warframe after a big bombrush cyberfunk kick and seeing some brc music here was a pleasant surprise!
I never found a Main Frame in Warframe I feel like other games are better at designing characters you actually want to play for a longer time
I Only Have Two Tiers:
1)Umbra
2)Not-Umbra
You Can Guess Which Frames Go Where
"A life to live and grass to touch"
Damn, you didn't have to call us out like that
Swells with Gauss pride. He really is god teir but reminds you how important movement skill is.
The best part about this list is the opinion of bad warframes. Yeah, frames like Nyx get outclassed in everything by other frames and Hydroid is pretty bad compared to everyone in general.
However, the Warframe is only one part of a whole arsenal. A bad Melee or Primary can affect ones gameplay way more than the Warframe. If a Warframe was truly bad, people wouldn't be able to last 5 minutes in SP Survival with them and both frames mentioned above can last way longer than 5 minutes.
Also, wise decision to have the Unranked section. Most people would sooner talk out their ass than have a real opinion.
I was waiting with bated breath during the "E frames" section of the video, worried about what one of my favorite warframe yters would say about my favorite warframe. Glad to hear you think Equinox (day) is an A-, can't wait to see the Equinox video later this month!
Building Wisp Prime was the best thing i've ever done her 1 and 3 are just amazing and let's not forget about her "assests"
Without watching this, we all know who is the worst...
*cough*squidward*cough*
Just wait for him to be the best warframe in the entire game post rework.
Don't forget Vauban bastille can armor strip too