"The NBA’s rules helped me score 70" - Luka Doncic
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I'm an old head and I've constantly said you can't compare eras, not becaue some nostalga "magic" but SCIENTIFICALLY to compare 2 unkowns almost ALL THE VARIABLES HAVE TO BE THE SAME... that's it, that's it. you can drop an inconclusive because of shoes if you want, serioushoe, medicl, health, food, scheme, rules, court, BALL (SPALDING AND WILSON) stop comparing eras!
Agreed, it should be great players of their own eras imo.
Honestly my biggest issue with today's game vs older years is the frequency and catering to flopping and that's an issue on both players and officiating imo.
bruh flopping been a thing since the 60s and all that. Look at Vlade Divac
@@legendarywiimaster never said it wasn't. I said, the increased frequency and increased tolerance for it is an issue.
@@sekaiakira2it was literally worse in the 80s and 90s, social media exists now so it’s more broadcasted and shown when it happens
I forgot who said it either Gil or Shumpert, but players flop cuz they’re getting fouled but the red ain’t blowing the whistle so they have to sell it alot more, the lil touch flopping okay I agree there but if you’re strong like a Shaq type build and you’re getting fouled the refs aint gonna call it
There is less FTAs now than the 90s and 80s. What are you talking about??
Some people want it to only be a rule change thing, some people want it to only be a talent thing.
In reality it’s a mixture of both. Rules have obviously benefitted offenses, especially after the slow pace of the 00s. However, players have just become better at taking advantage of rules.
But when Luka said this, people wanted the discussion to be about how he thinks that’s the Euroleague is somehow tougher than the NBA when in that same interview he said the NBA was tougher to play in. The NBA just cares more about entertainment and the average fan does not care about the game of basketball or the strategic aspect of defenses, they just want to see scoring.
Yes, Americans are mindless consumers.
And are triggered by criticism.
Yep nailed it. People in this era just love glazing let's be real. Glazing now bring more views you can see it everywhere in every sport.
The truth almost always lies in the middle but nobody likes to hear that
Agree. I think flopping has become a major turn off AND with offenses baiting the defender to foul.
Playoff basketball allows for more physicality so scoring drops from 120 to 100ppg.
I wouldn't say rules have benefited that much after 2000. In the 2000 they took away illegal defense which made it harder on the offense. It was hard at the beginning but once players learned how to shoot that 3 it didn't matter(edit: conssitently enough to make it worth taking it). Now you could bring back illegal defense and hand checking and what you want. Unless you make the 3 harder to make or less valuable(which would imply a major change of the game) not much you can do to stop the offense. Just play the best defense possible. Best 1 on 1 defense, best help and best rotations and that's about it. And the offense is still going to win just not as much.
Easy example is USA vs Nigeria 2021. There is 0 reason the US should have lost with that superteam. Yet bc of the international style of play, Nigeria upset them.
The same USA team that won gold?
Lmao they won
@@HatutZerazeThey barely beat a team led by Rudy gobert
@@Abbad1579wtf loser trophy 🏆😂
@@orangejuice20133 The same USA team that was relying on superstars from the 2000's? LOL.
Again I think old heads miss the 80's and 90's because it was more violent and easier to understand for them. Players disliked each other legitimately and played with animosity. also the game was simple, as well, Michael Jordan was playing lol thats a huge difference. Americans like drama and competition and they don't feel like players have the same competitive drive because the disliking for other teams isn't there. Old people like division and heated rivals. Bring the hatred back and they'd love todays game.
BOOM!!!
Tbh I think it’s just the overall culture of the world (or at least the US) that’s changed so much as to why that hard-nosed, gritty style of the 80s and 90s can’t happen again.
@@Big_3000 I see your point, but I also think it has to do with the league knowing that players playing with hatred isn't good. It showed in the malice at the palace. It might have been good for ratings but not for the health and safety of the players and fans.
Hate and animosity are great for competition so long as there is no real violence. Humans love drama. Its not an old head thing. It will always be that way.
@@tahireed Our species doesn't compete with hatred and animosity without violence though. We never have been able to keep it out. If you have hate and animosity, violence will follow. I love all sports and competition. Combat sports especially. You can have amazing competition without hate and animosity. Even in combat. Some of the best fights ive ever seen were between people that liked each other.
If there was no 3 second, it would disrupt so much because multiple athletic bigs would be insane. Not to mention like Wemby, Chet lol
If they took away defensive 3 seconds it would just encourage less athletic, less dominant bigs to shoot more 3s lol
It would help a little but not too much. Teams would just screen with whoever the big is matched up with and force them to play up to stop a shooter off of PnR
@@BigSalmon13teams would just go back to running 2 big lineups and just rotate
@@wockcup38 I don’t think 2 big lineups would work with the constant rotation the defense would be in. Imagine an extra big on the court to attack while he closes out
traveling, flopping, moving screens and carries. These are the things the NBA doesn't call and ruin the game. In Europe we still have a sport and not a circus
Traveling and carrying more than anything, I feel, although moving screens can be impacting sometimes. Flopping is taken more seriously now
Crazy, the NBA has guys throwing themselves all across the floor now trying to draw a fake charge. 😂
crazy that the NFL knows more about what an illegal screen is than the NBA nowadays
4:45 You bringing up Luka mismatch hunting reminds me of people who say Jordan was just beating up on smaller defenders like Jeff Hornacek or John Starks. Like wtf do y’all he would if he played today??? Lmao
Jordan looking to kill that team. Let that team have any semblance of a weak point, lol.
Like you said, hand checking wouldn’t matter as much because of switching but they should at least give more time in the lane.
Luka wasn't even talking about how it's easier back in the day to now. he specifically says compared to euroleague where the game is shorter and they have don't have def 3 secs.
And the court in the NBA is wider than in Eurolegue. He forgot to bring that up but that has a big effect on spacing (Jokić talked about that after playing in FIBA). Also, in Europe players are trying more on defense than in the NBA, especially in the regular season.
All the players you mentioned that are really good at doing the "Switching of the Defenders" Are all quick and athletic, The very thing a lot of these so called "NBA Experts" say Luka isn't😂 And yet he does it with such ease
We are spoiled on the offensive side of the ball in football and basketball
It's HILARIOUS that LOW implies "NBA = NFL".
To him, "offence" and "defence" are two different sets of people!!
Instead of blaming Gobert for not defending everyone everywhere, why don't we hold Bogdanovic and Mitchekl to a higher defensive standard??
COOOOOOOOK@@darrengordon-hill
Yea the rules really spoiled y’all it’s like riding a bike with training wheels 😂
Why does everybody think hand checking is like the thanos of defense, the only reason that shit worked was cause players were to pussy to shoot from behind the arc and they played the game very slow. With all the spacing now hand checking would put you at a defensive disadvantage
Old heads need anyway to feel superior that is why , there ego wont let them admit players now are just better across the board
@@quickie17 and your generation is the ones making the nba lose ratings by the millions cause yall are soft and think cause you can spam a few dribbles and shoot the three the game is much better lol
thats coz yall don't know what hand checking really is... The fact that you think that having the freedom to put two hands on a guys hips to push/guide them in whichever direction you want is a defensive disadvantage is actually ridiculous. If anything, handchecking would limit the freedom of movement on the floor, hinder spacing as well as dribbling combos. Kenny Smith explained it the best on inside the nba.
@@thepeacekeeper2338 do you understand how easy it would be for offensive players to exploit people who hand check. Players nowadays already exploit the smallest amount of contact for a foul. Imagine someone going to hand check luka and he goes up to shoot the ball because he knows the defensive guy is initiating contact. It’s gonna create even more foul baiting. Also I don’t think you understand the level at which players nowadays would be able to navigate around a hand heck. Players back then might have been guided or pushed from hand checks but not now. There’s things that can be implemented that will actually have an effect. Hand checking ain’t one of them.
YO WHO THE FUCK IS BREATHING LIKE THAT😂😂😂
I knew I wasn’t tripping😂
I WAS JUST ABOUT TO COMMENT THIS😂😂
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Low didn’t mute his mic during the clips 🤣🤣🤣
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ALL Pat Bev does is hand check 😂
Handchecking now is just trying to keep the guy in front of you, in the 80s is was pushing the opponent back. Two VERY different things
Even if that is the case, that would make you easier to be out of position.
One reason why a young Micheal jordan was easily blowing by people was no one could stay with him after he gets a step ahead.
If you are putting your weight/momentum opposite of a drive, then you will be vulnerable to a blow by. This essentially what the crossover or a jab step is trying to create. A push is more appropriate if the ball handler gives their back to you (ie. a post up)
in the 80s you had to beat 1 person and you have free basket.
Same in this era@@splev8111
@@splev8111😂😂😂😂
I mean... it's true@@Gurb-cr3wl
You know Zubac hates Luka for torturing him in two playoff series.
That 3 in the key rule is a big changer especially foe the the defenders.
That Handchecking wasnt really a big factor...majority of great perimeter defenders are just good with their hands and anticipation
Yea ppl forget that John Stockton & Karl Malone became an all-time assist and scoring duo with the help of PnR when hand checking was a prominent thing and nobody would say that Stockton is as talented an offensive player as Luka
Another rule that changed defense is not being able to land in a shooters space on defense. The premise of the rule is the shooters safety, but it hampers your reaction to timing a contested shot. It's the same as a tackle in the NFL who has to hesitate because of the targeting rule.
Low looking like he lost some weight, good shit bro!! Keep up the grind!
THANK YOU I been saying this shit for years dudes been hand checking plus looks at the old clips for 90s that whistle would blow a lot
I played in the late 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, & I would always learn what the opponent disliked the most, when being guarded. That's the way, I defended different players. It still worked in the late 2010s, & I was in my late 40s, playing against 18yr to 30yr old heads.. lol.. I'm 59yrs old right now.. I'm not saying, I could stop every basket, but, at least slow them down, on their average scoring. People hated me, because of my strategy.
Havent watched yet but i swear some people dont understand what luka means when he says this.
It being easier to score in the nba than in Europe does NOT mean that being a high level offense in the nba is easier, nor does it mean that being a high level volume scorer individually is easier. Just that there are more actual points.
You would think people would understand this from a guy who was euroleague mvp at SEVENTEEN, but evidently not.
Nah bruh. You're misconstruing his clear words. He basically calls it easier because it just is which is why there are more points scored.
Everything you added is just you and what you feel like.
Watch Giannis play for Greece as a non shooter specfically. Dude has a hard time scoring and averages 18 points on lower efficiency than any of his past couple seasons.
In the NBA he consistently averages 30 on monster efficiency.
He's getting held to 18 by less talented less athletic defenders.
That's purely because of rules.
@@Dotsetc or because he plays with greece?/he doesnt take it as serious as his nba career/literally a million other reasons. Oh thats right sorry i forgot giannis has no skill and is just tall and fast… right.
@@Dotsetc You just lied, first one, Giannis wasn't the clear first option in Greece before 2019. Did he struggle in 2019 in the WC? Sure, but because they were a lack of chemistry and coaching in the team.
He averages 30 ppg on 50 + % and 80% from the line in the last EuroBasket. Btw Markkanen, him and Luka finished as the best scorer or the last Euro Basket with almost 30 ppg for each of them.
Also I advised you to watch how he plays during the EuroBasket compared to the NBA. I'm giving you the answer: like an old school PF , he looked like Karl Malone during the campaign.
Also they lost to Wagner and Schroder's Germany, outscored due to the 3pts rain from Germany's team.
SGA was also very good for his first FIBA campaign and Brooks too btw
@@K-Dot94 If you actually think an European player cares less about his international career then the NBA, then you clearly know nothing about European players.
And weird assuming at the end without getting into anything I said if which Giannis was only a part off.
I was also claiming Giannis would be a superstar and one of the all time greats in 2013, when NOBODY was saying it, so no nothing you said at the end is my opinion and you shouldnt assume things.
@@Dotsetc im european 💀
"Gobert killed by corner 3s"
JAZZ HAD NO PERIMETER DEFENCE!!!
But sure, blame the one good defender???
How one guy gonna play defence on FIVE players??
Oh wait, "Spider Mitchell gets buckets, so doesn't need to play defense because needs energy for the offensive end"
Damn you make it sound like Low said fuck Gobert it’s all his fault they got killed on defense
@@EnZo7992
WHAT DID HE SAY??
"Rim protection AND closing out to the 3pt line"
Dude can't be in 2 places at once, so maybe give him some help... like he had now in MIN with AE and and Jalen Daniels... no wait, that's PURE COINCIDENCE....
You can’t get mad that the dpoy is getting flack. He’s been getting these awards but every year the playoffs come around it’s “get yo big ass out the paint and come guard this guard” and he gets COOKED every single time.
He didn’t blame rudy for that at all, stop using all caps calm down
@@Freespazfreesumo
Again, he's a center.
Nobody's asking Mitchell to defend centers!!!
Thanks for proving my point!!!
It's the floor spacing, mostly. Almost like open gym and these dudes don't miss in open gym. Not to mention teams are moving way more because of the open spaces so the offenses have evolved, masively.
You can not hand check. JJ describing it was not a good description of hand checking. Its not the point that hand checking will stop scoring. It just makes it harder and provides my resistance.
freedom of movement rule and defensive three seconds are the big ones
Don't forget the the gather+step rule. That has to be something tweaked during the last 25 years.
Gilbert explained the hand checking rule was really for when you try to back a defender down they can't put there hand on you lower back and basically push you to prevent you from backing up. It's mainly a rule for the post cause people had both hands trying to stop Shaq from backing down in the paint, like Gil said once you face your defender they can't hand check a crossover or drive so it doesn't really effect the modern game that much.
3 seconds would change a lot of things and even more if they start to properly judge traveling.
The biggest problem with the arguments about whether or not certain players would do well in certain eras is that they are usually one-sided. A lot of people talk about what the players would be exposed to without considering what the player would do in response. It's casue and effect; every action has a reaction.
Its not hand cheking... the problem is carrys, refs not being consistent and 3 second rule. Those are the main problem in the nba.
Each generation is better than the last, but I prefer the the European rules you can feel the intensity.
Nope lol
Low looking fresh asf
Offense will always evolve. Defense can only evolve but so much
Right man. They gotta get rid of defensive three seconds and see what a difference it makes with nba defenses. I don’t usually hear this brought up
Bro it would literally be impossible to score but I wouldn’t mind it either😂
Even with the rule, teams still prefer taking 3s over anything
would just mean u gone leave sum 1 wide open
@howitzdone8992 not really, no team is putting their 5 in the paint for 48 minutes
@@TheMissiIe that’s my point if u are gonna have someone sit in the paint somebody is gonna be wide open it wouldn’t change much
The only thing I say for defense is to allow them to body up more some have defenders be able to use their strength a little more it comes down to where you don’t touch the floor unless you are a shooter 8/10
You hand check with the trailing hand but it’s a combination of more skill/ creativity less hand checking and how often players carry and travel. All of these things contribute to players scoring but skill is a smaller percentage of it then people think
I do agree that most players would just live with the corner three, but I think what happens is you have a repeat of what happened last year between the Lakers and the Golden State warriors.
Where you have players like Curry who can shoot the gym and fuck the sky, but if you completely lock down the paint he can't get any of his easy points.
If you take away the 3 second rule, Anthony Davis, Embid, Rudy Gobert, I'm pretty sure that there would definitely be a surge of really strong defense but I don't think it'd be a good idea.
@ 2:27 we can hear Low’s heavy breathing
No hand checking is called differently for certain playerss and you can't tell me many players are using it because they get called for it all the time especially when its anywhere in the post
The intensely between Luka and jj
LOW my beloved
It’s hand checking as well. All of the above
My guy. Hand checking is being able to guide somebody with your hands and check them as they change direction. Keeping your hand on somebody while they are dribbling ALLOWED bigger and stronger guards the ability to make players go in the direction they were able to go. Not just putting your hands on and off somebody. That has no affect.
Like you’re sitting here EXPLAINING TO A FOREIGN PLAYER WHAT HAND CHECKING MEANS, and then wondering why he agrees with you… basketball fans should need an IQ check before commenting. JJ Reddick literally guided Luka into agreeing with him, and you ate it up.
And btw, hand checking made it EASIER TO FIGHT OVER SCREENS. Y’all niggas don’t know ball bro. JJ Reddick never played in a hand checking era… SO HOW WOULD HE KNOW?!?!?!
Facts. Hand-checking literally allowed you to control an opponents movement. You couldn't just walk up and shoot a 3 with Gary Payton on your hip. It's why guys like Reggie Miller had to run all game to get open from 3, cause you couldn't just take a few dribbles and step back and shoot a 3 when someone can guide your movement. You literally have a player that never played with 80s-90s hand-checking explaining it wrong to a European player to make him agree with his point.
@@MikeM-np4od exactly bruh. These boys are braindead who believe this nonsense. And JJ Redick barely even handled the rock. He was a catch and shoot player so he wouldn’t know anyway.
Easier to score in than some or not, Luka can score himself!
You can only really hand check in the post. You can really hand check on the perimeter face to face.
It’s crazy because if the rules change to how people want them to be ..they’ll still complain and want these rules …bro just watch the game and wait till the playoffs …everybody knows playoffs is where actual physical basketball starts ..it’s a unwritten rule
Exactly. Joel embiid can barely handle 3 months of regular season basketball
He would last 2 weeks of playoff intensity ball
hand checking is less of course but the speed of what the gamehas become doesnt allow much of it.try to put a hand on some on now going full seed at you might brake some fongers lol.but whe the players are in the post there are constand and multiple hands on them pushing them even at the time they shoot and its rarely called unless its an obvious push
I had a whole thread saying exactly what was said in this video in your last video lol
It is difficult to get pass a player that is hand checking. This is why you did not see a whole lot of dribbling like you see nowadays. You have to keep that ball moving or make a move. There was a combination of rule changes that make it easier for players to score in the NBA. It is not a secret that the game favors the offensive player now.
Imagine Wemby camping out in the middle of the lane all game.
Can you make a video on the MVP race?
removing the 3 second rule will not only increase corner 3's but also bring back the mid-range shot. not sure if the NBA wants more jumpshots though.
I still think the handchecking rule can come back. It can justify removing some of these foul baiting moves. It would also force some players to turn their backs to protect the ball and limit their vision to some extent. The beauty of evolution is that sometimes new information can nerf a tactic, making it less useful. There's nothing wrong with adding weakened tactics back into the game.
Good stuff.. take a look at wizard's F Deni avdija.. young talented defender
I think they should add 6 seconds in paint I think it would be a better balance
Y’all do know they called illegal defense when there was no 3 seconds right. Like you had to guard someone you couldn’t just sit help
3 in the key should be allowed. The defensive rules need updating to with the explosion of offense
Ok 3 in the key than you go against a small ball line up like the Warriors who has a center who can shoot what you do than? How does that center camping in the paint deal when a pick is called? He just sits in the post? It doesn’t fix the issue.
Where is playback vid
Remove defensive 3 seconds! Lets get some actual defense in the league!
LOW just love being right.....sheesh....and it's deserved 🤣🤣 Great vids bro
Thank you!! I've been saying this for years!! Only the simple minded ones don't get it n think that were in the most all-time skilled, all-time greatest scoring blah blah blah smh if you watched basketball in the early 2000s for example, you'll see that there's a CLEAR difference in the rules and what's allowed. I mean shit the league is open w letting people know they changed the rules to entertain people that wanna see a long-range shot and go "oooooooh!! Smh
Anybody can watch ball n analyze it. But theres only a certain amount of people who can make it to the League. Take that as u will.
Guarantee Low can't make 5 jumpshots in a hour
We'll see in the coming years if the NBA rule changes really made a negative impact. If the US consistently fail to win a FIBA world championship then some changes better be forthcoming.
We need a new wave of defenders
We have the best defenders in NBA history right now. The switchability, defend without fouling, and the space they have to defend in is unparalleled
My three issues with the nba. Travel calls, carry calls, and flopping. Those 3 need to be reevaluated
Bruh it don't matter if you never played hoops, you study and you know more about basketball than anyone not named JJ
I'm an EA Sports FIFA and NBA 2k franchises fan, and those games went through the toilet when those companies went corporate. the NBA is in a corporate stage right now. corporate stages break products. it's the cycle of life. why is it so hard for kids to accept that the old guys are right? the games are more dynamic, yes, but the games do not resemble competition. NBA games look like exhibitions. as an old head what I'm asking is if Jordan had to get his teeth kicked in to score his points. why pretty boy luka gets to drop 70 without breaking a sweat. it is not fair especially when you young boys on UA-cam take those stats at face-value and erase ballers who had to get hit to average 20. imagine if the NBA made free throws be worth 2 points. and the league average is 30 ppg. then that generation of fans buries the previous generation's legacy like the steph curry's and LeBrons get ethered. how would you guys feel? what would you guys say? i have a guess. you will probably call it like you see it.
Oh my lord, now we’re saying today’s game still has handchecking… people love being in denial more than they actually love basketball this is crazy
Low got that shit on tho🥶
Bro please just call out angry hoops review at this point 😂😂😂
The refs allowing players to carry and travel is one of the biggest differences between now and the 1900’s.
lmao
That gather step added an extra variable to overcome on defense. Now players are dragging their foot driving to the basket or palming the ball while doing a fake. All of those things are an advantage against the defense.
If some of these skills were not called raving or palming back inthe 90's I would have been even beter at basketball in middle and high achool.
Honestly I think they should remove the three second rule again because it would bring back mid ranges
I want to be honest I didn't know someone can't just sit in the paint
Just need the league to call more travels, discontinued dribbles and carries. Get rid of defensive 3 in the key, like FIBA
This is just more reason, that the NBA has no defense played. Luka and Giannis have said it is a lot easier to score in the NBA than their countries. Just look at the Olympics the scores are a lot less.
NBA viewership is way down since 90s so more point doesn’t results in more fans
If corner 3 goes in 50% of time, that's 1.5 points per shot. A person who shoots 75% near the rim is worth 1.5 points per shot.
I was about to eat 🙏 LETS GOOOOOO 🗣️
I’m losing brain cells heading this man talk
How?
JJ Reddick starts this clip off asking the same snide ESPN take in a nicer way…’wasn’t your 73 pts against soft defence?’
I’m so sick of ESPN
Alright new experiment. Video 1 asking who “people” are.
People keep saying rules, the difference is how fouls are called. Luka and JJ even mentioned you get away with much more on defense in Europe. Today they give tons of foul calls that never would have been called in the 90s, also traveling calls are not called anywhere the same. Due to referees giving the offensive player all these calls defenders do less and play less physically, otherwise they would foul out in a few minutes.
None of these are actually arguments against hand checking. Mismatch hunting would be harder because those poor defenders will now have the ability to steer offensive players away from the basket rather than defend in space. The issue with Zubac defending is that all the offensive player needs to do is dribble them off balance and then blow by him. That's gonna be harder if a big like Zubac has a hand on your hip. The second argument is literally just James Harden style hooking/rip through/foul baiting something that's more about how the game is refereed and just allowing more physical play would make it a non issue not to mention the NBA has introduced rules to make it harder to get away with that.
Sure, likely a majority of the star talent will be able to adapt their game but the issue isn't just the star talent but also how it would affect the Tobias Harris's and the Terrence Mann's of the game who would likely struggle under new rule changes. Yes the game is different but hand checking will affect perimeter players because it restricts their options on movement on the court which will affect their play no matter what era they're in because being able to move with little restriction really helps guards from any era.
Its obvious that different rules such as in fiba or the Olympics hamper the style of play of many nba players since the more defensive and physical style of play demands more team oriented passing and ball movement teams over tween tween hesi splash nba offenses.
tl;dr: its obvious you don't play ball fr
So if offense has evolved cuz players are better now why aren’t they evolving on defense also ? 😂
That’s the main issue ignored defense is easier to figure out yet players prefer to not even consider it
@@isaiahh4108 Offense. You 3 go sit at the 3 point line and you come set a screen for me. I'll shoot it, lob it or make a skip pass.(obviously not that simple but close).
Defense: Any elite offensive player can get past any defender in the league. So as a defendere I have to make sure this guy doesn't get past me too easy. Shit now I have to fight trough this screen. Now while I fight trough the screen my teammate has to guide him into the help. My teammate on the strong side has to help without over committing cause then it's an open shot from the corner. Then let's say the help didn't do much. Now it's 1 on 2. Now the defender form the weakside has to help on the lob while I try to contain the attacker. That leaves 1 defender to guard 2 . Hopefully that guy doesn't get tricked by Luka's eyes and closes out in time after the skip pass. Then we have to make sure we all rotate in unison to the right player and not only not close out too hard and leave the defense vulnerable again.
A lot harder than 3 people just have to sit on the 3p line.
Because how well people shoot the 3 these days and how good iso players are, figuring out defense is not that easy. Maybe on paper it is. But having 5 players to think as one, and not only that make the right decision it's really really hard to figure out. Not to mention you don't play the same 5 players for 48 minutes straight every game.
He lied about handchecking though. It’s not putting your hand up and putting it down.
Man bring the old rules back from the 80s imo, the games where physical and fun to
Watch. Players were fined and moved on it was a norm. But the toothpaste in today’s game is already out tye tube..
Yooo.. hand checking is by far the biggest difference for iso players. The 3 second may be more effective for for some players but they used their hand their forearm they brickwalled players everything. They can't do anything close to the same. I just don't think we should minimize the difference between dudes leaning back on elbows and forearms who were forcefully resisting compared to today where it's literally barely a touch
No it is not lol. No Iso player is concerned with the defender on him. Plus the ISO defender would just call for a screen then ISO a worse defender . A top 3 Iso player in the league Luka just told you this. Also you could never use your forearm on the perimeter unless the offensive players back was to the basket. This rule is still the same today. You can use your forearm if the players back is to the basket. You are just misinformed and wrong
Handchecking is the biggest fraud rule ever people complain about. Bill Laimbeer would not be out on the perimeter handchecking Luka out of pick and roll. Handchecking means touching a player but you were not legally allowed to impeded movement. Its such BS. There were more hard fouls. But not more legal physicality. They were called as fouls
@@andrewbradley3305 your literally arguing the exact opposite of what I said .. they do not deal with in today's game the contact they did back then they wouldn't be able to handle the ball today the way they do to shake defenders if the had a defender draped on them like that it absolutely would stagnate some of the best isobplayers that use their handles to shake defenders off to get their shot off.. to think otherwise is to not have paid enough attention to the 90s they werent just barely getting a hand on them they were usimg elbows and forearma and excessive amount of their strength to direct them.. it in absolutely mo way is even clise to the sane thinh
@@andrewbradley3305 they absolutely constantly impeded movement that's why everyone would put their back to the defender and back them to their spot it certainly wasn't because it's easier to move backwards they literally used their ass to bump people backwards and get a partial step at a time
@@justinfletcher7630 This is not true they put there back to the defender because they did not space the floor with shooters so there were no driving lanes. Just go back and watch AI. He was not getting pushed off the spot. He just had to settle for contested middies cuz the paint was closed cuz they had 3 non shooters on the floor. No handcheck was slowing him down and he’s the smallest lightest scorer ever
This is just ignorant of the truth of how the game was played. You can do far more physicality with back to the basket. It was against the rules to move players with the hand check. Hand check meant you could put you hand on and take your hand of the player when facing the basket. Not move or guide him. This is the rules. Idc your opinion on what you’re pretending the rule was. If you think touching a player briefly allows you to stay in front of the lightening quick guards with space your insane. And if they feel the hand they will use it to go into a shooting motion which even in the 90s you can’t hve hands on a shooter
Imagine asking Jordan if he’d rather have people not be able to put a hand on him while dribbling but have two defenders waiting for him in the paint because there’s no spacing. Or a defender able to put a hand on him but the defense is spaced to the 3pt line so the help is late and coming from across the floor. And if it does he can dump it off for a dunk cuz the big is having to come all the way across the paint. This is obvious. Handchecking is such a casual thing ti bring up. It’s so silly non Americans just laugh at it.
@@justinfletcher7630 yes they could AI did this and he was far lighter and skinnier then all the modern scorers. He had no problem. In fact he actually suffered from a lack of spacing because he couldn’t get all the way to the rim and he wasn’t a great pull up shooter. And he did it mostly in iso. This idiot thinks you could elbow dudes facing the basket lol. You must be young. Just go watch the nba. The forearm is illegal if a players back is not to basket and always has been
Today players would roast that type of coverage because you aren’t going to be able to shove Steph curry lol. That’s still a foul and he’s gonna get right past you because no elite nba ball handler can’t get past the first defender. It’s the help that matters. This has been said by every great ball handler from the 90s to present day. Modern spacing makes the help hard which is what allows more scoring. So funny to think putting your hand gently on a guard like Steph is gonna slow him down lol. Players are too skilled and too fast and it doesn’t matter where your hands are unless you are grabbing or pushing which is a foul in every era lol
You just are so far from reality of the rules in the 90s that you can’t be helped. I’m stating the actual rules and you are letting nostalgia or more likely what you have heard dictate your opinion
If the players in the 80s and 90s player's played today you would have to talk on 10ppg for each player due to how much more they would get the line. If you took the players todays and put them in the 80s and 90s you would have to subtract 5-10ppg as they wouldn't get to the line as much. Not to mention everything that today that would have been traveling in the 80s and 90s.
That’s funny
@@rafikz77 funny but true 😜
@@cclark2021 nah 90s players would be role players at best today
Evolution exists
@@rafikz77 with jokes like these you should go on tour 🤣
@@cclark2021 thank you for proving you don’t watch full games and have never played organized basketball because it’s obvious you don’t understand how the game has evolved 😂
This hand checking narrative always pissed me off. It only helps if the person you're guarding is a trash ball handler. Any decent to elite player is crossing you into oblivion for overcommiting like that.
If this guy engaged with his comment section id absolutely subscribe to his channels. Just a internet rule i got 🤷♂️ but ill keep watching.
Bro acting like he didn’t literally say this his rookie year
Wait8ng for the people qho know ball come out and say luka is wrong while luka knows more about basketball than all of us lol
So why even still have the 3sec rule?
Luke “I was born in the wrong generation” Doncic
Whatever it is, it needs to address just standing around the entire offensive possession. If you watch any game today and compare it to 20 years ago, a 2003-2004 contest, there is SO MUCH standing around doing nothing on the offensive end. You have 1 dude with the ball, 1 dude moving to set a screen, and the other 3 are basically standing stationary on the perimeter and never factor into the possession at all. It looks and feels so much lazier than previous generations when you had to run around 3 different defenders and cross the entire baseline just to receive the pass.
So much standing around NOW or back then?
@@mazengwe28 Now.
I think you picked the wrong era to complain about others standing around. 89-05 is consider the DEADBALL era
They should get rid of the rule for a season and see what happens
Is it me or I can hear someone breathing heavy?😂
hand checking and 3 seconds being gone would be a gift from the basketball gods
Hand checking wouldn't do anything today, players today, unlike the 90s can shoot outside the restricted area, not to mention the spacing and movement being completely different due to increased talent across the board.
Hand checking fouls would get baited to hell and prolongue the game instead of slowing it down.
3 seconds on the other hand could use a revision.